SCORE MC Class Structure Should It Be Re-Organized???

[DRZ_Motorsports_119]

Should The MC Class Structure Should Be Re-Organized???

For Example Should SCORE put more classes in the dirt bike division.

a) 450F Class, now that every manufacture has one. that will help boost the sport, support and sponsors.

b) 250F Class, the same has above....

c) Open Expert Class. For those privateers that don't want to compete in C22, against Factory Teams and well funded teams and C22 (sportman).

d) 250 2 Stroke, (C21) Only for 250 Two Strokes.

e) Ironman Class (Pro and Sportman), For the die-hard racer and adventure man.

f) And should SCORE put MC and ATV racing sunday's in The US races like Primm and Laughlin.

Example: 22, 21 (250-2T only), 30, 40, 50, 22 (sportman), 450F, 250F, SMU (sportman under 250cc), Ironman Pro, Ironman Sportman.


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[BajaboundMoto]

I have a couple thoughts on this....

Back when SCORE started the "sportsman" classes it took away some prestige from the bikes. It was always open for anyone to race but then people who (imo) shouldn't be out there started entering thinking it was an event OK for weekend warriors.
It also thinned out the Pro classes so the payback became crap.
I think they should can the Sportsman classes. They'd probably loose a few entries but it would streamline things, make it appear more professional (imo), and it would pay the winners more.

I think they should add a single Ironman class, Ironman Pro. I think the Ironman class should be required to run a certain color # plate background (say white #'s on a red background) so everyone is aware and those entries will be seen easier when (if) they are changing riders during a race and the checkpoint people should check the armband of that rider as he passes thru each check. I'm not saying that Ironmen do change but anythings probable.

250 & 450 F classes would just complicate things adding more classes and thin out the ranks. The F bikes have proven they can run with the others in 21, 30, and 40.

To add more classes would just mean that some guys would be racing in a class with 1 other bike rather than 4-8 other bikes. What's the fun or challenge in that?
If I just wanted to get "wins" for the record book then I'd race a 125.

How about adding a 2-cylinder class? Of course I would have an agenda to get that added considering the BMW we're racing. KTM has a couple sweet twins and they're racing them in Europe as factory bikes to who knows, having that class may make for another Factory backed entry and add some entries to each race.

I really think that creating bigger classes and better competition is key, not watering it down.

[dustyhusky]

I've wondered about this also.

I dont think the age thing makes any sense down there. In Baja a 42 year old with 25 years experience is just as competitve as a fast 24 year old with 3 years baja experience.
In fact the older guys get as many or more top 10 finishes almost every race. INstead of class 30, 40 etc. -- its more relevent to go by horsepower. Sorry but do we really need a class 50? Theres only 1-2 teams and if they want to race baja they can just join in by bike size..

up to 251 class
up to 501 class
open class
Ironman

To my mind those should be the classes. Payback should be 50% and should go for the top 10 overall.

Heres another issue:
Starting.

Why not a GP style start right at the beginning of the wash in town?
6 am for open
6:03 for 500's
6:07 for 250's
6:08 for Ironman

that would allow for lots of passing at slower speed stuff early on--making the race more competitive for fast 250's and 500's.

getting the bikes out earlier will allow more of a window for launching the quads.
they can also have a GP start and take off at 7:00 am/7:05 am.

4 wheelers should still have a 1 minute seperation...

[BajaboundMoto]

In Baja a 42 year old with 25 years experience is just as competitve as a fast 24 year old with 3 years baja experience.
>>Just look at how fast C40 is now, damn!<<
up to 251 class
up to 501 class
open class
Ironman
Why not a GP style start right at the beginning of the wash in town?
6 am for open
6:03 for 500's
6:07 for 250's
6:08 for Ironman

Fantastic ideas!!
You should write up a quick note on that, nothing too serious, and FAX and email it to score. Tell 'em I love the ideas too!
I write stuff like that to score every now and then. I never expect a reply but Sal has phoned me to discuss a couple things.
Input to them is good.


--update--
I just looked at who "DustyHusky" is.....
I can't believe I just agreed with Mike on something......there's a first for everything!

[cosmo]

I agree also with Tim on this.Once you have spent a ton of money on bike prep,etc. the $ difference between Pro and Sportsman is app. $250.00. Enter Pro and go for the win,trophy and $$.A "twin" cylinder class would hopefully bring more Europeans to race.A LOT of them are very fast! Perhaps having the bikes and quads start two at a time.I just looked at a video here on a race from Ensenada to San Felipe(gnarly crashs by the way!!),and they started two at a time.Hmmmmmm?

[Brain171]

Isn't KTM already racing their twin in Baja? Griders bike is the 700 twin I thought.

[BajaboundMoto]

KTM only has raced the 950 twin in the '03 1000.
The 700 they race is a single LC4 motor.


Isn't KTM already racing their twin in Baja? Griders bike is the 700 twin I thought.

[Blue Man]

I do not see the point in a 251 to 500 class?

I would like to see a 125, 250, open and ironman with two divisions- pro and ammie or sportsman.

I like the best in the desert set up also.

[dustyhusky]

125 class in baja?
I dont think you will be able to buy a 125 in the USA 2 years from now...theres little history of 125 racing down there. Arent they being phased out?

why put the 400/450/501 (husaberg and husqvarna) in the same class as the 650 Honda and 700 KTM? Or the BMW, 610 Husky, 700 ATK, etc? Seems unfair.

Maybe you mean 125/250/open the way motocrossers mean it? i.e. 125 2smoke=250 4 stroke? If so we are on the same page.

the problem with to many classes is that a win doesnt mean anything. Fewer teams, but many riders.

[Kritter]

"why put the 400/450/501 (husaberg and husqvarna) in the same class as the 650 Honda and 700 KTM? Or the BMW, 610 Husky, 700 ATK, etc? Seems unfair."

When you are at the level of the OA guys...its not so much the bike. The 400s go 100 mph...the 650s go 110 mph...how often are they going that fast? The 400s go thru the tight stuff faster so its prob a wash.

[Blue Man]

What is wrong with the way it is? I race D37 with a bomb start and it sucks unless I am in the top ten or so, then it still sucks. Immagine a rider taking out Campbell or Childress on the start?

The 125 class is a ? What about a class to start the younger kids in? If 125s go away then there should be a 250, open, 30, 40, 50. Kill the divisions, run all the classes together.

I love the BITD starts, SCORE is the same, instead of waiting for a banner to drop you get to BS with Fish and Folks.

[Blue Man]

Dusky Husky, if you cant beet em on the Husky, buy a 650???????

That was only ment in the good, not negative.