Kurt Busch out for rest of season

[J_Edgar]

It appears that Kurt had a little run in with the local authorities outside of the track Friday night. From news reports it sounds like he got really lucky and didnt get a DUI (breathalyzer was broken). Roush Racing decided suspend him for the rest of the season ( only 2 races ), but with the public knowledge of possible drinking and driving , how will that please his new sponser Miller Lite?

[RG1Baja]

OOOH well at least he is going from hard alcohol (Crown Royal) to something a little milder (Miller Lite).

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Quote of the year!!!! LOL

"It's the last straw for Roush Racing," said Geoff Smith, president of Roush Racing. "We're officially retiring as Kurt Busch's apologists effective today."

[NicksTrix]

should be a humbling experience for him, to say the least.

[Racbaja]

I am not a Kurt Busch fan, but this is total BS. If this would have been one of the southern boys it would have been written off as "Good Ole Boy Having Fun".

[RG1Baja]

I am not a Kurt Busch fan, but this is total BS. If this would have been one of the southern boys it would have been written off as "Good Ole Boy Having Fun".
I agree with that slightly but when you come off as an ***** like he does it just gets magnified a little more.

[Bohr7]

Nascar had severe trepidation allowing the liquor sponsors in this year. Crown Royal and Jim Beam have stepped up to the plate with some major "Responsible Driving" campaigns because of it. When your very own driver can't abide by the rules, it's just a given, the penalties had to be stiff.

[Superfab]

The local Sheriff definitely wanted to make an example of him. He even put on his best suit for tv. Nascar is corperate now and wants their drivers to be proper role models, besides the fact that sponsors are pouring huge money into the sport. No more hillbilly antics.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Nascar had severe trepidation allowing the liquor sponsors in this year. Crown Royal and Jim Beam have stepped up to the plate with some major "Responsible Driving" campaigns because of it. When your very own driver can't abide by the rules, it's just a given, the penalties had to be stiff.


That's the big one.... Also, don't forget Jack Daniels, Smirnoff and Patron have cars for the first time this year. Between those five Sponsors they have shelled out the following bucks. JD = 10.5 million, Crown = 8 million, Smirnoff = 6 million, Patron = 3.5 million and well Jim Beam somewhere in the middle. That's over 30 million bucks.

This is only the Hard Stuff. Estimates for Dale Jr.s Bud tab are over 25 million. Rusty is about 18 million and Marlin's Coors car is in the 14 million range.

Just to have MADD get in there and raise hell... could be a very bad thing for many of the teams.

I hope the Sheriff does what he does to all his CRIMINAL Traffic violators (This wasn't a "Speeding Ticket"); Issues them Pink underwear and lets them stay in the county tent for the weekend. I hear the PB&J is to die for.

[DirtAlliance06]

Im not a big Kurt Busch fan myself, and I think what he did was wrong, but I also believe if he werent such a douche about it, he wouldnt be in this situation. He was calling the police wimps and things of that nature I heard. Now I bet if he were to sign a few autographs, apologized, and made a public ancouncement about how sorry he was, he would be racing at Miami next weekend. But I guess thats just his nature. And then Kyle came on after the race saying things that shouldnt have been said either. I kinda lost some respect for him. But like was stated earlier, it will be a humbling experience for him, and hopefully he learns from it. I just find it ironic that right after they were talking about it on the radio, he had a crown royal commercial saying to drink responsibly. lol. Take it easy

Chris

[NicksTrix]

there's no way he'd be racing in miami. sorry.
jack is absolutely done with him and was even joking about the situation kurt got himself into this week at a function we had. kurt is someone elses problem & damaged goods to take care of now.

[Bohr7]

NIck,

Any insight as to why they are retiring the 97? and what is up with the owner points with Jamie's new number in regards to the top 35? Are you as confused as the rest of us or are we just really confused? :confused:

[DirtAlliance06]

Im glad Jack is done with him and that Kenny has the chance to race to last two races. And about that whole team thing, why are they having to drop to 4 cars next year? This brings up the question as to where Ward Burton is going be if they are strinking the amount of cars per team. He said he wouldnt race unless he had a "top flight" team. Sorry kinda off topic.

chris

[Bohr7]

Nah, not OT Chris, there are still quite a few people that would love to see Ward back in a ride.............and when you figure out what's going to happen with the 4 car team things, let us know, it still looks to most as Jack Roush was singled out. Heaven forbid Hendrick had to lose a team or two................

[DirtAlliance06]

Thats true. I want to see Ward back in a ride too. I guess its just sence Jack had 5 out of the 10 drivers in the cup. The 6, the 16, the 17, the 99, and the 97. Unfortunately Mark or Carl arent wining, but their close. I would love to see Mark win it, but it is pretty much impossible now. But Carl is definitely on fire these past few races. I just dont want Stewart to win it, but it looks like he is going. But Ill keep my fingers crossed :p

chris

[Racbaja]

I followed Ward up through ASA and would really enjoy seeing him back out there in NASCAR.

[NicksTrix]

the number swap is to create a new identity with jamie coming aboard.
jamie will have the 97 owners points to start next year off with. drivers points don't mean anything there.
roush racing will still have 5 cars for a long time, there is a "grandfather clause" that nascar is allowing until 09 i thinkit was i read.
having 5 cars in the chase, it does make you feel as though he was singled out. it just comes down to the fact that the package the cars have now works with their driving style and all the programs have their game on. obviously the strong engine package we put under them is a plus too. (shameless plug there...)

[Bryan_D]

The local Sheriff definitely wanted to make an example of him. He even put on his best suit for tv.


This is not true. My dad eats lunch with some of the head honchos in the Sheriffs Dept. here in Phx. They told him that the guy was such an *** that he should have been breathalized due to the fact that no one should have been acting like this if they were sober. One of the captains actually said in his long career that he has only seen 3 other people deserve a ticket like this. They said he tried the power trip WAY to much and should have been thrown in jail and told to pound sand.
Supposedly he is getting a ride now with Penske for next year and it wont really effect him at all. The thing is that he needs to realize is that he is only a nascar driver, not god. Get over the power trips and or move on.

[Bohr7]

the number swap is to create a new identity with jamie coming aboard.
jamie will have the 97 owners points to start next year off with. drivers points don't mean anything there.
having 5 cars in the chase, it does make you feel as though he was singled out. it just comes down to the fact that the package the cars have now works with their driving style and all the programs have their game on. obviously the strong engine package we put under them is a plus too. (shameless plug there...)

Thank you Nick..........I don't think most have been aware of the ability to buy the owner's points. And I'll ditto your plug, you guys do an incredible job.

[NicksTrix]

I don't think most have been aware of the ability to buy the owner's points.


there is no buying or selling of points involved, jack is just changing numbers. same as the way robby went from 55 to 83 this year on his bgn car.
owners points stay with the owner, drivers have their own points...
hth
nick

[Bohr7]

No, no, I understand that until Atlanta, the owner points are what matters. It's the car number that confuses everyone, If Robby transferred to the say #13 from the 7, how does that affect the owners points? A team owner doesn't have everyone of his cars start in the same position...........he earns different points per number. So, how is Jamie's new car number going to come out in the Top 35 thing?

[NicksTrix]

jamie will be using the points the 97 had, so he'll be basically 10th in points.the number will just be changed to 26.
robby could change back to the 13 and still have however many points he earned this year using the #7 as long as he or jimmy smith is still the owner.
in jacks case, his teams will be where they finish off this year, hopefully one of them in first! each car in it's respective spot.
comprende?



No, no, I understand that until Atlanta, the owner points are what matters. It's the car number that confuses everyone, If Robby transferred to the say #13 from the 7, how does that affect the owners points? A team owner doesn't have everyone of his cars start in the same position...........he earns different points per number. So, how is Jamie's new car number going to come out in the Top 35 thing?

[Bohr7]

I hope I didn't frustrate you Nick, it's a question that every one asks and yet no one can answer. Yes, I understand exactly now that you explained that one............I don't think it's Roush that confuses the issue it's the number swapping that is going on in other teams. And I agree, Woo Hoo Biffle the 2005 Champion?

[NicksTrix]

nah, no problem. i know it's tought to explain to people that aren't familiar with the system. it does get confusing for them. really want to confuse them, start discussing winner circle monies and all that goes along with that.. "how come the 25th place guy made more than the 5th place guy..."
biffle is a long shot, carl is carrying the bulk of the banner right now.
keeping our fingers crossed. either way, it's been a banner year for our products, out of both shops actaully. think it's 30 wins our engines have powered between the two.
be good
nick

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Jim Smith I.E Robby Gordon doesn't have top 35 owner's points this year so they do him no good for next year for the first five races.

Everyone resets to 0 points in Feb.

[Bohr7]

Jim Smith and Robby Gordon were never the question, only the number swapping in other teams. And Jim Smith is reportedly not the owner of record for number 7 for 2006.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Jim Smith and Robby Gordon were never the question, only the number swapping in other teams. And Jim Smith is reportedly not the owner of record for number 7 for 2006.

So I guess it don't matter.

Why was Jimmy listed as the owner this year?

[Bohr7]

He's owned the number 7 for quite some time, I can only assume Robby used it for this year for some unknown reason then bought it or got him to relinquish the registration to him. Don't know much about how they do that.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

He's owned the number 7 for quite some time, I can only assume Robby used it for this year for some unknown reason then bought it or got him to relinquish the registration to him. Don't know much about how they do that.

Here's the deal, RG and Richard were dueling for the Jack Danials sponsorship over the summer and the #7 was a MAJOR part in the mix. Richard spent the first 3 months of the season fighting for it with NASCAR (Thinking he could get it). RG had Jimmy keep it so under the owner rules Jimmy could keep it because he ran the minimum amount of races to keep it for the following year. Richard has cooled down. So maybe RG will assume the open ownership in 06, maybe. “Richard and Robby are still great friends” Cough... Bull Cough...Sh… Cough...it

[NicksTrix]

“Richard and Robby are still great friends”
oh come now. if they are that tight, don't you think RG would have had RCR engines under the hood this year, rather than an upstart program that had never produced a cup engine package before.
it's buisness, nothing more than that. revolves around cubic dollars.

it will all work out in the end, you can't take any of it with you....

just my op, fwiw

[FlyHiFlyLo]

“Richard and Robby are still great friends”
oh come now. if they are that tight, don't you think RG would have had RCR engines under the hood this year, rather than an upstart program that had never produced a cup engine package before.
it's buisness, nothing more than that. revolves around cubic dollars.

it will all work out in the end, you can't take any of it with you....

just my op, fwiw

Did you read the last part of my statement and decifer it?

BTW RG would never race Cup again with the current Junk RCR motors.

[NicksTrix]

i decifered it just fine.
how many rcr engines blew in comparison to menards. that's my point.
being the insider that you are, tell us will he try another season with the menard package?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

i decifered it just fine.
how many rcr engines blew in comparison to menards. that's my point.
being the insider that you are, tell us will he try another season with the menard package?


Take 100% of the risk...Take 100% of the Glory.

From where it stands right now. Yes he will run Menard motors in 06. But that is subject to change. He will have Menard power for Daytona.

[bajafox]

He's owned the number 7 for quite some time, I can only assume Robby used it for this year for some unknown reason then bought it or got him to relinquish the registration to him. Don't know much about how they do that.

Robby stated in an interview that he used the #7 because back in the day there was as single car team owner/driver who had that number and won a few races, I forgot who he said it was but I'm sure it's on the net somewhere, anyway I guess it was kind of a mini-tribute to the original guy who had that number for doing what Robby is trying to accomplish

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Robby stated in an interview that he used the #7 because back in the day there was as single car team owner/driver who had that number and won a few races, I forgot who he said it was but I'm sure it's on the net somewhere, anyway I guess it was kind of a mini-tribute to the original guy who had that number for doing what Robby is trying to accomplish


It was just fate that he ended up with Alan's number.

[Bohr7]

No, fly, Robby did indeed want the 7 as Alan Kulwicki was a champion AND an owner AND a driver. He has Alan's tributary on his desk as a reminder to what can be done when you put your heart and soul into it. Not trying to be argumentative but bajafox was right on this one.

And, again, not trying to be argumentative, but as much as Burton did nothing more than Robby did last year in that RCR equipment, they didn't blow as Menards did. Yes, Robby did say he would like to see Menard produce in order to compete with the larger engine builders but he hasn't said if Daytona is going to be powered by Menard yet........they said they would re-visit the issue at the end of the year.

[bajafox]

Kulwicki

That's the name! Thanks, I wanted to see how well he did in his career but I couldn't remember his name

[FlyHiFlyLo]

No, fly, Robby did indeed want the 7 as Alan Kulwicki was a champion AND an owner AND a driver. He has Alan's tributary on his desk as a reminder to what can be done when you put your heart and soul into it. Not trying to be argumentative but bajafox was right on this one.

And, again, not trying to be argumentative, but as much as Burton did nothing more than Robby did last year in that RCR equipment, they didn't blow as Menards did. Yes, Robby did say he would like to see Menard produce in order to compete with the larger engine builders but he hasn't said if Daytona is going to be powered by Menard yet........they said they would re-visit the issue at the end of the year.


Go back to NOL. "Fly" haven't heard that in awhile.

You don't know what it takes to get a "good" number in Cup. It was purly political.

RCR motors suck. RG isn't out there to run 20th week in and week out. RG has already played musical motors in 2000. He will run Menard Motors at Daytona. No speculation. "It is what it is" not trying to be argumentative but deal with it.

[Chase 2]

Wow, Fly being out Flyed by another RG fan.

Did anyone think to remember that one of RG's sisters is married to a Menard?

[Bohr7]

You're welcome Bajafox, Alan is an interesting creature if you look him up...............sad day for everyone when we lost him. Since we started covering the Pro-cup series (Hooter's) I miss him even more.

Fly, I have no idea what the hell NOL is, why don't you elaborate?..............and why you have been on my back since I came back to this site is beyond me. You've been obsessed at figuring out who I am and you're so far off base it's pathetic.

Chase, thank you for the sister information, wasn't aware of that so it certainly makes sense either from the standpoint of why he's so loyal or how he came to be so tight with John.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

You've been obsessed at figuring out who I am and you're so far off base it's pathetic.

What? I know who you are. and you do what NOL is.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Wow, Fly being out Flyed by another RG fan.

Did anyone think to remember that one of RG's sisters is married to a Menard?

No don't think so. Becky or Robyn? Not Becky.... Robyn? I didn't know RG had another sister?

Bohr... Here's a good site for the typical female nascar fan.

http://drinkthis.typepad.com/answer_this/2005/10/nascar_girlfrie.html