Rhino Racing - I don't get it

[pjc]

http://www.deserttoyzatvracing.com/pages/786149/index.htm

$29k.. For these things. What is BITD doing?

You can get a nice 1/2 1600 for that price and really go racing!

Like this one http://www.race-dezert.com/cgi-bin/trader/atl.cgi?ct=2&md=second&id=2201

or this one..

http://www.race-dezert.com/cgi-bin/trader/atl.cgi?ct=2&mct=&md=second&id=3041

[MX808]

And not to mention how slow they go. We were at the second road crossing right before pit 1 and this rhino was coming through and right behind him was Steve Croll in his porter class 1. I cant imagine how mad some of the racers must be having to pass those things.

[roach]

prices start at $29k, so how about one with delux features, like an LS1 and Fortin box????

[pjc]

I have one of these deals. They are great ATV's and awesome for what they were designed for. My favorite use is up in the Utah trail system. But on the same course at real desert race vehicles? WTF?

Also, the neat suspension ends very abruptly, key on "very". The first mod that a lot of people do is to change the CDI unit that bumps the top speed to 60mph which IMSO is asking for it!

[MX808]

Even if those things can get up to 60 mph how will the suspension be able to handle stuff going that fast. I think they should run with the quads. They would have a lot better chance and not be in the way as much. i think it would be easier for quads and bikes to get around them rather than a TT.

[Dez_Annihilation]

I think its really cool that they are racing yeah its not really a good idea that they are racing with the rest of the cars but i'm sure rhino's can go over some of the stuff out there faster than class 11 cars and maybe some 9 cars, but they need to be raced with motorcycles and quads.

[BajaFand]

It has been reported on another forum that they will be racing with the bikes and quads, the info came straight from BITD. I think that's the way it should be done, they may be easier to get around than any other slow car on the course because they take up up only 2/3 of the track, for an MC or quad they would be an easy pass. But a trophy truck takes up the whole track and then some, and they will plow right through a slow moving Rhino before they even know it.

[mdizzle]

Does the 29k include a truck and tralior to tow it with?What is worth 29k there:confused:

[younggunracer]

Its cool but logically why not buy a 1600 and average 45mph and be in the best drivers class out there and get to race all the laps instead of averaging 25mph and racing a fraction. Plus you can jump a 1600 and not worry about it destroying itself. Well anyways if thats your cup of tea why not!!!

[dezertracer230]

I think they should be in a desertlite class like at FUD back in the day. in BITD when the bike and quad loop is seperate then the car and truck loop they should run the bike and quad loop. when its one corse then they should be last to start. ive been hit by a TT in the dust in a 16 car. theres no way i would be typing this if i was in one of those. just not safe, maybe like 15 years ago it would be cool. cars are just to fast these days.

[Brandon_Charley]

The mini TTs are going to blow up here in a month or two and then everyone is going to want to race them too, I think when that happens the sanctioning bodies will come up with a practical and safe way for the smaller vehicles to race safely.

[bfiguy]

Maybe someday CORR will have a class; then I can race my Rhino around the track in the daytime! IMHO Rhinos have what it takes (with some mods) to take on Baja. Lots of people use them for Prerunning and chasing already. Plus I could run with a codog, my wife.

[Fourstroker]

The mini TTs are going to blow up here in a month or two and then everyone is going to want to race them too, I think when that happens the sanctioning bodies will come up with a practical and safe way for the smaller vehicles to race safely.

Are you referring to the same Mini TT's I think you are? I had a look at one the other day. I doubt they will be racing and not because of speed because of occupant safety and minimum cage requirements. I think the cage is 1" .065 wall.

PM

[AZ45]

It wouldn't be real hard to set up a smaller loop for Rhino's near the real track. I bet the guys running them would be satisfied with 50 or 75 miles. Maybe it would be way to keep spectators interested while waiting for the big cars to lap. It also may be a away to get younger drivers experience on 4 wheels...maybe open it up to 12 or 13 years olds.

[ChuckH]

Since we have a golf cart class now we should take it farther and add a pedal car class too

:D

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[Vtr_Racing]

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25k is a bit expensive. I personally would rather have a 1600 car. Or, campaign a nice quad!!!

[offroadracer516]

I think its really cool that they are racing yeah its not really a good idea that they are racing with the rest of the cars but i'm sure rhino's can go over some of the stuff out there faster than class 11 cars and maybe some 9 cars, but they need to be raced with motorcycles and quads.

Anouther person talking abought class11 when they have never raced in one. at the 1000 we cought 5-1600 cars,jeep speeds,hummers,you name it in are 11 car so dont bash the founding class of offroad racing.

[movindirt]

That's funny ChuckH!!!!

I have to agree with mdizzle and ask what are they doing to these things to and almost $20k to the price of a new Rhino. http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outdoor/overview-54.aspx.

I know there are better ways to have an inexpensive spec. class that has a chance to run with the other cars on the track.

[SnowFarmer]

To me this is racing. Bitching about it is non productive. So you don't like it. Big deal. I have to agree that the price tag is a little daunting but who cares. There are people spending $300K on buggies. Every year someone has to piss about a new class being entered. I personally would like to see the Honda Pilots come back. Or the MiniMag. People bitched about them years ago.

To me it's racing. It could be the little pedal cars above as long as everyone is equal. I will say this, if I had a seat in one on a race, I wouldn’t be complaining. It's better then what I’m racing now which is nothing but a CRF. Launch yourself in the desert on that then tell me how bad the rhino is.

If you get a chance, take a Rhino out for a spin. They are very addicting. Like a Jeep. They go anywhere and you can take a friend. Try that with a quad.

[Fourstroker]

I personally would like to see the Honda Pilots come back. Or the MiniMag. People bitched about them years ago..

There are 2 Mini Mags racing with MORE these days in Sportsman. They are FOR SALE. Interested?

[Mikey]

Also, the neat suspension ends very abruptly, key on "very". The first mod that a lot of people do is to change the CDI unit that bumps the top speed to 60mph which IMSO is asking for it!

Here you go... long travel with "King" shocks. www.longtravelrhino.com

[offroadracer516]

I own a EEE Desert lite one of the old ones that they raced at district 38 and fun i think the top speed is 100-110mph so this thing eats pilots for lunch 16 in of travel front and back 2 stroke motor its throws you back in seat we might bring it out to the new years race to play with.

[SnowFarmer]

There are 2 Mini Mags racing with MORE these days in Sportsman. They are FOR SALE. Interested?

Can not purchase today but yes. I am.

[Martin]

I have a Rhino and its one of my favorite toys in the toy box, but to be out on the course with real race cars no thank you.

I haul *** everywhere with my Rhino it works great for chase and to drag broken cars out of the desert. If you ever get a chance to drive one you will laugh the whole time you're in it "maximum fun minimal effort"

[Scrapiron]

Does the 29k include a truck and tralior to tow it with?What is worth 29k there:confused:

Maybe it comes with stippers and beer for the after race party.

[movindirt]

Originally Posted by mdizzle
Does the 29k include a truck and tralior to tow it with?What is worth 29k there


Maybe it comes with stippers and beer for the after race party.

Well then count me in!

[roach]

i just orderd my rhino today, should get it in a couple of weeks as it is coming from africa. this is what we are talking about, right?? becouse for $29k it better be real!!!!!

[SANDlessNSeattle]

HMMMMMMM I think this idea will fade along with the others that have died off ..ie..pilots/minnie mags/ect ect ect....

[Dez_Annihilation]

Anouther person talking abought class11 when they have never raced in one. at the 1000 we cought 5-1600 cars,jeep speeds,hummers,you name it in are 11 car so dont bash the founding class of offroad racing.

who told you i've never been in one i'm not saying that they're THAT SLOW but have you ever been in a rhino they don't move that slow over rough **[IMG]http://cdn3.race-dezert.com/forum/images/mexico-flag.png[/IMG] [I]¡Ay, caramba![/I]****[IMG]http://cdn3.race-dezert.com/forum/images/mexico-flag.png[/IMG] [I]¡Ay, caramba![/I]****[IMG]http://cdn3.race-dezert.com/forum/images/mexico-flag.png[/IMG] [I]¡Ay, caramba![/I]****[IMG]http://cdn3.race-dezert.com/forum/images/mexico-flag.png[/IMG] [I]¡Ay, caramba![/I]****[IMG]http://cdn3.race-dezert.com/forum/images/mexico-flag.png[/IMG] [I]¡Ay, caramba![/I]**

[Andy McMillin]

300$ on buggies? Dang, you're paying way too much money pal!

[snoreracer]

Here is a lesson from the school of rocks. PCI Scott enters a snore short course race at the Las Vegas speedway, the problem is he is the only mini mag entered so the 1600s with top drivers with like pat dean. Danny Anderson, rob Mac and tom burns say he can race with us. the 1st heat Scott beats them all on the tight track. all the 1600s don't want to race the mini mag after that.
the rhinos don't need to be racing on a desert track with faster cars it's not safe, but a short course would work. snore is working on a rhino class at the short courts at the battle at primm in Feb

[down4glamis]

29K is very steep.

get a leaf spring ranger, or f150, spend 10k or so. and have a competive truck to race in. look at the 1450 class, the last 6-7 years a leaf spring truck has won. that says sumtin about K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid). the other 19k you save can goto entry fee, gas, beer and strippers :)

[Josh_K]

Even if those things can get up to 60 mph how will the suspension be able to handle stuff going that fast. I think they should run with the quads. They would have a lot better chance and not be in the way as much. i think it would be easier for quads and bikes to get around them rather than a TT.


They wouldnt make it 2 miles on a bike and quad coure. The quads dont really fit on the quad coures becouse Casey lays them out on a bike.

[Dez_Annihilation]

You Guys Are A Bunch Of Haters!!!

[SnowFarmer]

Here is a lesson from the school of rocks. PCI Scott enters a snore short course race at the Las Vegas speedway, the problem is he is the only mini mag entered so the 1600s with top drivers with like pat dean. Danny Anderson, rob Mac and tom burns say he can race with us. the 1st heat Scott beats them all on the tight track. all the 1600s don't want to race the mini mag after that.
the rhinos don't need to be racing on a desert track with faster cars it's not safe, but a short course would work. snore is working on a rhino class at the short courts at the battle at primm in Feb

I will agree putting the Rhinos in front of faster cars may be a bad idea. Not racing them because of a few whiners is even a worse idea. 90% of all great development comes from racing.

A couple of weeks ago someone posted a thread about all the whiners. I am starting to see that now. Personally I race. What ever it is, I race it. Always have. Now I am 40 I am interested in fielding an off-road car (easier to afford as well.) I can't understand how those that sit on the sidelines complain if they haven’t even tried it? You guys are disapointing me.

[SANDlessNSeattle]

300$ on buggies? Dang, you're paying way too much money pal!

I'm with you Andy...if people are spending 300k on buggie's...I'm in the buggy resale business....Line up boys I got anything you need.....

[John_Bitting]

A couple of weeks ago someone posted a thread about all the whiners. I am starting to see that now.

I think we can stop beating that dead horse now. Like I said before, if you want to read good content, POST IT. Make a difference, dont just sit back and complain.


As for the topic, I thought it was nuts to see Sohren and Collins fly by us right before we saw the Rhinos. In a point to point race they would be fine, in a lap race I dont think they should be out there. Hater or not, it seemed dangerous from my spectator point of view.

[racinteach]

having raced a quad I think the rhinos will make it...hell if we can get aquad thorugh some of the stuff, why not get a rhino thorugh there...sometimes it's all about finding a way ..I see off raod goign the route of mtb racing...at first we used to race on very tough technical bike breaking courses....then all of a sudden we are racing on graded fireroads where you need no technical skils...don't let off road go that way where anyone who can afford it can sit in a car and hit the gas...you should have some off road skill...now how to get a car through an area..that may not have a clear route...I have raced a few baja races where I had to get out to find a route around and over an area...then I had to drive the car through it ...you actually had to to think how to drive...now you still need to know how to handle your vehicle and I am not disrespecting anyones driving abilities, but we should see more techinical slower courses.. this years 1000 course was a good example ...

[J Caster]

I think this is a great class. I have friends with big money race teams and I don't think some people know what it costs to race. You can go buy a 1600 car for $30,000 but that is just the begining.I would love to have a 1600 car but I can't afford to race it. You need a big truck and trailer to get even a 1600 car to the races.I have a small truck that can pull a rhino easy.The price of fuel, prep, parts and chasing a rhino is very cheap compared to any thing but a bike or quad, but I like the idea of a roll cage. It is unlikely that you will outrun the chase truck therefore you may only need one chase truck.Overall I think this is a great low cost way to race and still have that roll cage around you. What bitd is doing is great and they are handling the safety issue by running them in the back of the pack and or bike,quad only races. I am working on getting one to race this next season because it is something I can finally afford to race and thats what I want to do race!!They have some very cool things being set up for this class if your interested give bitd a call, It's going to be fun and that's what racing in the dezert is all about.

[Dez_Annihilation]

having raced a quad I think the rhinos will make it...hell if we can get aquad thorugh some of the stuff, why not get a rhino thorugh there...sometimes it's all about finding a way ..I see off raod goign the route of mtb racing...at first we used to race on very tough technical bike breaking courses....then all of a sudden we are racing on graded fireroads where you need no technical skils...don't let off road go that way where anyone who can afford it can sit in a car and hit the gas...you should have some off road skill...now how to get a car through an area..that may not have a clear route...I have raced a few baja races where I had to get out to find a route around and over an area...then I had to drive the car through it ...you actually had to to think how to drive...now you still need to know how to handle your vehicle and I am not disrespecting anyones driving abilities, but we should see more techinical slower courses.. this years 1000 course was a good example ...

Well said i mean why does everybody have such a big problem with them racing its almost like a quad only thing is you have a roll cage around you i don't see why everyone is whining about it and not everyone can afford to race a car and and the spending of 30 grand to race a rhino includes the rhino itself plus parts and build up.

[Martin]

I have a Rhino and they are no where close to being as fast as a quad. I have a great time in mine but would'nt want to be lapped by all the trucks and cars they are way to small. The Rhinos should be on the bike course or at a point to point race start last behind all of the cars and trucks.

If you want to race on a small budget race class 9 they are affordable to race you can buy most of your parts from a junkyard.

I think a Rhino would be a money pit to race the parts aren't cheap either.

[bajafoolin']

I know that many of you would be pleasantly surprised by the ability and potential of a Rhino. I completely agree that it is extremely dangerous for a larger much faster vehicle to pass a Rhino, but I know that once we work out some bugs on our vehicle we will be faster that most class 11, some class 9, and even class 16 through the rough (just not top speed). Some people are going pretty far with Rhinos, I have seen turbos, numerous long travel kits, big bore kits. We share our shop with Complete Fabrication and many of Glen's race projects gave inspiration for our Rhino: we adapted a UMP Superfilter, fresh air system, race radio, Fox coilover and bypass shocks, 930CV's, OMF Bealock wheels, Tire Balls, MasterCraft seats, belts, and nets. And the list goes on much further. So come on guys give some credit where credit is due.

I couldn't figure out how to post a picture but check out the Black Rhino about 3/4 of the way down this page: http://www.eventphotodigital.com/henderson400/henderson400.htm

[01Baja4x4]

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-Tim

[GlamisGurlie]

BITD has decided to move the Rhino Class starting with the first race in 2006 to the motorcycle/quad course, which I think is a great idea for safety concerns for everyone on the course...I don't want to be the one who gets the call to go retrieve a Rhino that has been accidentally hit by another race vehicle going 70+ out there....

On another note, SNORE is going to be sending out a formal invitation to all race-ready Rhinos for the Elite Laser Cutting Battle at Primm - an annual 2 day short course event at Buffalo Bills, Primm NV... We stage this race in class heats, so you wont be out there with everyone else and you only race against other Rhinos - we don't have m/c-quad classes.... Our newly elected Race Steward has a Rhino and I believe has several people committed to run this race already, so stay tuned for more info... This is just a one-time event during the 2006 race season...

[racer951]

but I know that once we work out some bugs on our vehicle we will be faster that most class 11, some class 9, and even class 16 through the rough (just not top speed)....So come on guys give some credit where credit is due.

The class 9 fast lap was 55 minutes faster than the winning Rhino's lap. As far as beating a 1600 in the rough...no chance. That's where they make up time on everyone, there is absolutely no way that would happen with the small wheelbase on those things. You may have built a nice Rhino, but those claims are pretty far off.

[DeanB]

If you want to race on a small budget race class 9 they are affordable to race you can buy most of your parts from a junkyard.
Its funny how the word "affordable" is a matter of perspective. I have been racing my class 9 for 2 years now, and would not dare say that it is "affordable".

[GlamisGurlie]

I just received an email from this company - anyone ever heard of it? They offer 1 & 2 seat "buggies" with a couple displacement options and give full specs on their site... Just curious....

www.kaseainternational.com

[DG_BTI]

[QUOTE=BRPtech] and even class 16 through the rough

thats classic!

[ChuckH]

The class 9 fast lap was 55 minutes faster than the winning Rhino's lap. As far as beating a 1600 in the rough...no chance. That's where they make up time on everyone, there is absolutely no way that would happen with the small wheelbase on those things. You may have built a nice Rhino, but those claims are pretty far off.

Bubble popper :D what are you going to say next ? that Santa Claus isn't real ;) :rolleyes:

[SANDlessNSeattle]

I just received an email from this company - anyone ever heard of it? They offer 1 & 2 seat "buggies" with a couple displacement options and give full specs on their site... Just curious....

www.kaseainternational.com

Glamis..ya I think they are one of the many importers of the fine China products out there these days..cheap and a kick in the pants....but racing one??? ummmm "I'll take no way in HELL" .....for $400.00 Alex

[rolloutracing]

Hello, everyone my name is Eric and I'm with Desert Toyz ATV. I must say that I'm excited to see everyone on this forum talking about the Rhinos racing, even if there is some negative. We have been working very hard and close with Casey at BITD to get this class going and more important safe. We have run two BITD races this years and both of them were to help figure out what we need to do to make this safe and how we need to do it. We ran the Vegas to Reno race and the Henderson race. With both of those races finished we were able to get rider feed back and racer feed back as well. We decided that any lapped races will be run with the ATV/MC and any non-lapped races the 1900 class will leave 15 minutes after the last truck/buggie. This will hopefully eliminate any trucks/buggies having to pass a Rhino. Unless of course someone breaks down and is able to get repaired and back in the race. Believe me I would rather never get passed by a truck or buggie if possible, but it is going to happen every now and then.

As far as cost and why don't people just buy this or that and do this and that to it, that is all personal preference. I love to watch the trucks and buggies go and think that would be great to do, but not now. Everyone on this forum has the same passion when it comes to racing, they just accompish it different. One of the main points in putting this calss together was to get more people invloved in the sport. I have spoken to many people that never thought about racing but now that they can run there Rhino they are getting excited about it. Worst case they are going to come out and watch and get more involved in the sport. You never know, they may get into a buggie or truck and be battling you in a future race.

I'm really excited about this new adventure and I'm looking forward to being able to do more races and events. I wish you all the best of luck in the upcoming season and if there is anything that I can do for you please let me know and I will be more than happy to help.

Thanks,

Eric

[bajafoolin']

to all you doubful people: the race in Henderson last month was a horrible showing for our team. we decided to build a vehicle just three weeks before the race. our rhino was still in our shop 400mi away 12 hours before the start of the race. I started five minutes after the Rhino in front of me, he missed a turn of something and I passed him immediately. I made up five minutes in 10 mi and was in the dust of the first Rhino when our motor blew up. We were waiting for a cam on Friday night and ended up only having 20 min on the fresh motor before I left the start. I have ridden in class 1, 5, 10, 9, and 16 so I am capable of making a comparison. Very few people saw our vehicle up close and even fewer saw it in action. Again, I know my Rhino was smoother and faster through the whoops than a number of vehicles in the race. Now my new goal is to prove to some of you haters that our rhino is no joke and have you guys eat your words. What you guys have seen as far as Rhinos is just barely scratching the surface. I look forward to surprising you all.

Just for the sake of the argument: the fastest class 9 was 55min faster than the lead Rhino. Both Rhinos were damn near stock and finished 7min apart. I made up 5 minutes in ten miles on the lead Rhino. I dropped out of college because I couldn't pass a math class so I can't calculate the numbers to see if my pace was faster than the fastest 9 but those are interesting numbers.

[Mark_Weyhrich]

Jamie,

We have a couple of these that we use for running around on our property. They are a lot of fun, but not overly safe. We rolled both of them the same day we picked them up and one guy was ejected and broke his collar bone.

[Martin]

You will never be able to keep up with a 1600 car maybe a 9 car that is wounded

[Martin]

Its funny how the word "affordable" is a matter of perspective. I have been racing my class 9 for 2 years now, and would not dare say that it is "affordable".
Compared to any classes above 9 its a steal

[Jack]

Will they be going the full distance on the point to point races? The reson I ask, is that I also do checkpoints and road crossing work so if you are already starting 15 min behind last starts can you then keep a 25 MPH average to keep the times resonable? If you have any down time (pit) (fuel) (tire) you will not be able to make this up on the fast sections with a top speed of 60-70 (if the is reachable). This will make long days even longer for us.

[GlamisGurlie]

Jamie,

We have a couple of these that we use for running around on our property. They are a lot of fun, but not overly safe. We rolled both of them the same day we picked them up and one guy was ejected and broke his collar bone.

You know Mark, I really find it hard to believe you guys rolled those the first time out ;) ... hahaha... Merry Christmas by the way to you, Gary, Dick, Dan and all of your families... :D I wish you all the best for the coming New Year - with no Parker repeat allowed!!

[bajafoolin']

from what I saw of the Henderson course (first 15mi), I would average approx 40mph, with having to retrieve broken vehicles and what not, Rhinos in a race would not make your day any longer.

hey Martin it makes no difference what I post, you will object, correct? Have you seen my vehicle? Have you seen it in action? How can you tell me what what my vehicle/I can or can't do? I am not intending to be overly defensive or anything since I am a newbie, but its tough for me to swallow being put down by some one staring at computer screen who knows nothing about the vehicle he is talking about. Its just that this is my first opportunity behind the wheel and it might as well be a TT to me.

[Curtis Guise]

Here's a good question...

Are they going to make different classes for them? I don't see a stock Rhino being competitive to one that has a pumped up motor and 4" to 6" wider arms and Fox coil-overs on it. I can see it now Rhino Stock Mini, Rhino S, Rhino Open.

If I had one I would race it. But not with TT's behind be.

[Chris_Wilson]

And Rhino SX for those that can't come to terms with the Rhino S guys.
And separate rules for each series too! Could even have a separate class
for Unlimited Rhinos with and without fenders. And more classes for
Rhinos with a cap on the back so the Rhino SUV does not have to race the
otherwise identical Rhino Pickup truck class. How silly would all that be?

Any of it sound familiar?

[down4glamis]

Compared to any classes above 9 its a steal


well 1450 is the best grassroots class while being affordable. people race their daily drivers in it. then prep it up, and race sportsman 1500 in SCORE. compared to any classes, 1450 is a steal ;)

[x9racer]

well 1450 is the best grassroots class while being affordable. people race their daily drivers in it. then prep it up, and race sportsman 1500 in SCORE. compared to any classes, 1450 is a steal ;)
I would say snores champ car class, faster than sportsman trucks, class 9 and 5-1600 but costs anywhere from $6,000 to $10,000

[rolloutracing]

Curtis,

As of now it is an open class. Next year if things progress they way they have been we will have two if not three classes, a open class, a modified suspension stock motr class and a modified motor stock suspension class. These will be created and modified as this year goes along. It should be really fun and I'm looking forward to it.

Hope to seeyou all out there soon.

Thanks,

Eric

[ShaneR]

There are already to many class's or at least enough and now we will have more class's to split up even more when we could have larger turn outs in the class's that are all ready existing? Why?

[DMSRACE]

I'm with Chris, this could be a nightmare in the making if everyone has thier own agenda...

[BlueCoyote]

And Rhino SX for those that can't come to terms with the Rhino S guys.
And separate rules for each series too! Could even have a separate class
for Unlimited Rhinos with and without fenders. And more classes for
Rhinos with a cap on the back so the Rhino SUV does not have to race the
otherwise identical Rhino Pickup truck class. How silly would all that be?

Any of it sound familiar?

And how......
This brings up a good point - set the rules early. Use the mini truck/suv mess as an example of what not to have. Let people built to a certiain level up front. A semi stock, modified and open class structure would be the way to go. In the begining you can combine the classes, but break them out as entries develop.

Seriously, this seems like a great class. After speaking with Cory the other day. sounds like this idea will really take off in 2006. He had put a lot of thought into it and is very enthusiastic about next year. A friend of ours saw this and is now rhino shopping for Purple Rhino Racing. We plan on attending the Parker race to check it out.

Take it from someone who was involved with something new - you will always have the critics. Take what they say to make your series better. Falling prey to the nay-sayers will get you nowhere. If you enjoy what you are racing, who cares what the rest of the world thinks. All the class 1900 racers have my support.

[J Caster]

I have worked out a deal and will be racing this class soon.It is going to be awsome and personaly I don't care if a 9 car is faster, I will be racing other rhinos and that all I have to beat.I know a few people that have rhinos and now are getting into dezert racing because of this class. These people will be spending money for dezert racing products. They would not be spending this money if not for this class.

[Dez_Annihilation]

I'm with BRPTech you guys can disagree all you want but i've seen the rhino that Joe raced in henderson and that thing is nowhere close to stock and i can gaurantee it can post an average speed close to 40mph.

[RacrDude]

----And Rhino SX for those that can't come to terms with the Rhino S guys.
And separate rules for each series too! Could even have a separate class
for Unlimited Rhinos with and without fenders. And more classes for
Rhinos with a cap on the back so the Rhino SUV does not have to race the
otherwise identical Rhino Pickup truck class. How silly would all that be?----

Chris..you are Killin' me...LMAO!!!! So sad...but VERY true!!! BUT...you forgot the Series within the Series for rear-engine "TRANSAXLE" Buggies ONLY....LMAO!!!

I have designed/built/raced class 1, 1-2 1600, 5, 5-1600, ATV and TT...my next ride...RHINO!! I will be Grinning from ear to ear the whole time...Can't Wait!!!

BRP...you got my Vote.

[Martin]

I'm not putting you down for what you're doing I really dig my Rhino and have bought parts from Black Rhino and will keep buying parts from you guys.

I need a set of 14" beadlocks for my Rhino do you have any instock?

I've raced 1600 cars for a long time and don't see anyway a short wheel based vehicle with a CVT will ever beat a 1600 in the rough. Come out to te plaster city race and see how fast 1600 cars are.

[Dez_Annihilation]

I've raced 1600 cars for a long time and don't see anyway a short wheel based vehicle with a CVT will ever beat a 1600 in the rough. Come out to te plaster city race and see how fast 1600 cars are.

wow i'm pretty sure no rhino is faster than a 1600 especially through the rough those things do haul *** and for the short wheel base on a rhino through the rough it ain't easy!

[fatnbald]

will this class have "rules and reg's" or is it going to end up a 1450 deal. i think racing these types of vehicles is not a bad idea, but leaving it open to show up and race any rhino that passes a safety inspection is. i also believe that it should not be conscidered a "rhino" class, but rather a side by side class. sooner than later honda, suzuki, will release a similar unit not to mention existing units ie. polaris ranger. im all for racing rhino's, lets just keep the horse infront of the cart. i think the class needs to be defined before to many more vehicles start showing up with to many different set ups.

[bajafox]

Are they required to have a co-pilot?

[pjc]

I still don't get it. Case in point.

If you had a limited car from a new 1/2 1600 to a SNORE Champ Class Car or even a nice prerunner, and a Rhino in your stable the Rhino would be relegated to being what is is, a 4x4 Golf Cart.

Again, I like my Rhino. I have one of the first ones that landed in the US. But I just don't get the allure to race them when there are so many viable alternatives that (pick any or all of the following):

* Are Cheaper
* Are faster
* Handle better
* Cheaper to maintain
* Safer
* More class competition
* Better platform to move up from

[Josh_K]

I still don't get it. Case in point.

If you had a limited car from a new 1/2 1600 to a SNORE Champ Class Car or even a nice prerunner, and a Rhino in your stable the Rhino would be relegated to being what is is, a 4x4 Golf Cart.

Again, I like my Rhino. I have one of the first ones that landed in the US. But I just don't get the allure to race them when there are so many viable alternatives that (pick any or all of the following):

* Are Cheaper
* Are faster
* Handle better
* Cheaper to maintain
* Safer
* More class competition
* Better platform to move up from

I agree 100% with you but not all see it our way. Its that old freedom of choice thing. There is a old saying in car sales that says 'there is an *** for every seat'. Well I guess it could be said that there is need to race any thing. No matter how foolish it may seam, look at lawnmower racing.

Hell, if I asked my wife to look at this to see who rediculas it is she would point out that in her eyes 8 trucks are just as foolish and pointless.

[pjc]

I agree 100% with you but not all see it our way. Its that old freedom of choice thing. There is a old saying in car sales that says 'there is an *** for every seat'. Well I guess it could be said that there is need to race any thing. No matter how foolish it may seam, look at lawnmower racing.

Good point.

I am wondering how many aspiring Rhino racers have not had seat time in a traditional limited off-road car.

[J Caster]

Good point.

I am wondering how many aspiring Rhino racers have not had seat time in a traditional limited off-road car.
I have ridden in a class 1, Protruck and a 1600 and I still want to race a rhino.Racing comes down to cost, if not everyone would have a trophy truck or class 1. Many people already have a rhino in their garage and just want to race what they already spent their money on. I don't know why so many people can't figure why someone wants to race a rhino. Why would anyone in their right mind want to race a 1100 car in a 1000 mile race?Because it's fun and challenge.

[Kbach66]

I give credit to those that are planning on racing Rhinos.....or anybody that gets out there and enjoys the sport they love and the great outdoors.

But....

Being in the motorcycle industry, I personally know 5 serious injuries in the first 3 months that they were in the market....and 4/5 were from industry people with the 5th being a pro MTB racer!

Here's a short rundown of the injuries sustained. Granted, these were all in stock machines, with no "doors" or wider sus.

- Broken foot/ankle to passenger (my passenger while testing for work....sorry Craig :( I didn't know it would go over that easy!)
- Broken ankle and collarbone (test guy for a major Japanese motorcycle company)
- Broken leg (Japanese test guy for a major Japanese motorcycle company )
- Broken arm, sprained ankle (US test guy for a major Japanese motorcycle company)
- Broken leg (Pro downhill MTB rider)

If there's going to be a "stock class", there's going to be a lot of injuries even with doors and 5 points. These things end up on their lid in an instant, with no warning....I've done it twice while testing. The factory ROPS is good...but not for racing speeds.

They are fun as hell though!!!

Check out www.rhinorollovers.com for some great pictures.
I also saw some screen shots from an upcoming quad video that has a rhino being "mega hucked" over a damn big table top....holy crap is all I can say, I can't wait to see the video!!!!

[FlyHiFlyLo]

I give credit to those that are planning on racing Rhinos.....or anybody that gets out there and enjoys the sport they love and the great outdoors.

But....

Being in the motorcycle industry, I personally know 5 serious injuries in the first 3 months that they were in the market....and 4/5 were from industry people with the 5th being a pro MTB racer!

Here's a short rundown of the injuries sustained. Granted, these were all in stock machines, with no "doors" or wider sus.

- Broken foot/ankle to passenger (my passenger while testing for work....sorry Craig :( I didn't know it would go over that easy!)
- Broken ankle and collarbone (test guy for a major Japanese motorcycle company)
- Broken leg (Japanese test guy for a major Japanese motorcycle company )
- Broken arm, sprained ankle (US test guy for a major Japanese motorcycle company)
- Broken leg (Pro downhill MTB rider)

If there's going to be a "stock class", there's going to be a lot of injuries even with doors and 5 points. These things end up on their lid in an instant, with no warning....I've done it twice while testing. The factory ROPS is good...but not for racing speeds.

They are fun as hell though!!!

Check out www.rhinorollovers.com for some great pictures.
I also saw some screen shots from an upcoming quad video that has a rhino being "mega hucked" over a damn big table top....holy crap is all I can say, I can't wait to see the video!!!!

Wow some of these things are really tricked out! I would take one over a tricked out Golf Cart any Day.

For Racing? In a word? G A Y!

Waiting to see TV coverage on The Nashville Network, Right after the Pro Mod Lawn Mower races and the Hot Saw finals.

[MikeAdams]

Check out www.rhinorollovers.com for some great pictures.


I wonder if that's the same attorney that killed the three-wheeler....

[DG_BTI]

I finaly did it, bought a ryino this weekend. After listening and reading all the good and bad, I can now come to my own conclusion. These things a flippin a blast! Drove around the hills in Alpine all weekend with a buddy and his ryino. We had so much fun, going up and down stuff you wouldn't want to even walk, let alone drive. Never got stuck, not even once through deep azz ruts and boulders. So much fun, not even close to crashing, use your head and you will be fine.

As far as racing, power to ya, I wouldn't even considure it. Ive raced clas 1, 10, 1600, and class 30 (xr650). Ryinos are not racecars, IMHO

[DavyD]

I think they look like a blast. I had a golf cart that I would jump and beat, and all i could do was laugh the whole time I drove it.
I just bought Huevos 8 DVD and it has a Rhino jumping a freestyle ramp, now that looks crazy. here is a link to the trailer
it shows some Rhino jumping. The DVD also has some footage from the Baja 500 last year in it, good stuff......

http://www.hbombfilms.com/Library/Videos/H8trailer.wmv

Dave

[99raptor]

Watched them "run " at Parker.Not impressed doesn't even begin to cover it.Quite slow and clumsy."Ridgerunners" ran at Parker also and they were a bit more nimble but both classes need more "zip",my 2 cts. anyway.:confused: :confused: :confused:

[Dez_Annihilation]

I think they look like a blast. I had a golf cart that I would jump and beat, and all i could do was laugh the whole time I drove it.
I just bought Huevos 8 DVD and it has a Rhino jumping a freestyle ramp, now that looks crazy. here is a link to the trailer
it shows some Rhino jumping. The DVD also has some footage from the Baja 500 last year in it, good stuff......

http://www.hbombfilms.com/Library/Videos/H8trailer.wmv

Dave

haha that idiot rolled it at the end of the trailer must be a rhinocraft built rhino

[Jack]

So are these now part of this class? I don't see numbers but the pic is from the Parker 250 bike and quad race.
http://eventphotodigital.com/parker250/M6PW9135.jpg
I can now see a use for them as in race chase cars for the bikes and quads like the 1800 class is used for with the cars and trucks..

[racinteach]

just going back to the odessey days...

[Jack]

It was from a race a week ago.

[racinteach]

It was from a race a week ago.
I meant was that way back when I was racing guys tried to race honda Odessey's in desert races...was the poor man way to race..or just fun, not really sure...I personally think this is a good way to get young kids racing and new people racing....to develop the skills needed..hose buggies ar all over the place...of course someone was going to try to race one...let race behind the bikes and quads..but not behind the cars by any means...And yes I am very familair with Parker..raced it last year..