Toyota in Nextel [Archive] - Off-Road Racing Forum

zetapsi827

January 24th, 2006, 07:35

WOW! Nascar has announced Toyota will be in the Nextel and Bush series in 2007. That's big news. how do you guys feel about that. Their truck program has had huge success, what would be the impact on the sport if it transfered over?

DavyD

January 24th, 2006, 12:37

thats going to be great for toyota..... heres a link to pics of the new camery
http://jayski.com/schemes/2007toyota.htm

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NIKAL

January 24th, 2006, 15:19

I just found this on Jayski.com

Three Teams to field Camry's in 2007 Cup Series: hearing that Bill Davis Racing [#22,23], Michael Waltrip Racing [#55] and Team Red Bull will run the Toyota Camry in 2007 when Toyota enters the series. In addition to Red Bull, other sponsors that will be associated with the Toyota teams are Caterpillar (Bill Davis Racing) and NAPA (Michael Waltrip Racing). Team Red Bull will be based in Mooresville, NC, and stock car veteran Marty Gaunt [Penske] will serve as the team's general manager. Who will drive for Red Bull? how many teams/cars? not sure, Robby Gordon, who owns his own team has been sponsored by Red Bull. And have heard that Kevin Harvick, who drivers the #29 RCR Chevy, could be one of the drivers for Red Bull team. Expect these teams, but doubt the Red Bull drivers, in part to be announced at Toyota's Press Conference at Lowe's Motor Speedway tonight.(1-24-2006)

Hemp

January 24th, 2006, 18:15

I new it would happen....but im not very happy about it, I like nascar being only domestic manufacturers like it has always been

whats up with the headlight stickers....they are like 4 feet long, almost to the end of the fender

Chase 2

January 24th, 2006, 18:20

So did Cal Wells burn all of his Toyota bridges when he bailed out of open wheeled and off-road and jumped into nascar?

FlyHiFlyLo

January 24th, 2006, 19:04

So did Cal Wells burn all of his Toyota bridges when he bailed out of open wheeled and off-road and jumped into nascar?

Cal can't seem to get his program up to snuff after this many years.

Scrapiron

January 24th, 2006, 19:47

Since when did toyota make a rear wheel drive push rod v-8 camary or anything?

conejoracer

January 24th, 2006, 20:41

The fords and chevys don't offer a rear wheel drive push-rod V-8's in their real world versions. Does'nt stop them from racing those rental cars.

FlyHiFlyLo

January 24th, 2006, 21:52

Since when did toyota make a rear wheel drive push rod v-8 camary or anything?

They have wings...

NIKAL

January 25th, 2006, 09:19

With Red Bull starting thier own Nextel Cup team, I wonder if Robby is going to loose any support from them? (On the cup level) I know they sponsor Robby's helmets, all the crew helmets and 2 Busch races. I know when Robby was just starting to put his Cup team together Red Bull was origianaly going to be Robby's main sponsor. But that is when they were in talks with buying the Ford Cosworth F1 team. They ended up buying the F1 team leaving no budget to enter the Cup field. Also from what I understand is when Red Bull sponsors a large program they usually are part owners of the team or program that they are to be involved with. I don't think this will interfear with Robby's TT program though.

JrSyko

January 25th, 2006, 14:38

I don't think this will interfear with Robby's TT program though.

I think that bridge may have already been burned....

FlyHiFlyLo

January 25th, 2006, 23:48

I think that bridge may have already been burned....

Please say what you think you know.

I think Harvick is the RB driver for 07.

baja619

January 26th, 2006, 00:26

The pics in the first link from the press conference remeinds me of a cigarette pack or 12 pack of beer

FlyHiFlyLo

January 26th, 2006, 14:18

The pics in the first link from the press conference remeinds me of a cigarette pack or 12 pack of beer

FYI, Somebody did see a Jim Beam #7 painted up Toyota Cup car at Bill Davis Racing several months back.

bajafox

January 26th, 2006, 15:26

I think Harvick is the RB driver for 07.

I second that assumption, he's made it clear that he's not happy at RCR and he's available for the '07 seaon as well.

NIKAL

January 26th, 2006, 15:34

FYI, Somebody did see a Jim Beam #7 painted up Toyota Cup car at Bill Davis Racing several months back.

Fly; This is what you are thinking about. This was found on Jayski in the Robby archives. This is NOT NEW info. And I bet the sponsor on the car was Red Bull. You know Red Bull has probably had this in the works for quit a while now.

(More on Toyota, Robby Gordon? from Inside the Pit Box - ...... this gentleman was at Bill Davis Racing [BDR] on another matter and while there, saw several Toyota Camry Cup cars either completed or close to being so. It is commonly believed that Toyota will probably not enter Cup before the 2007 Daytona 500. So why would BDR have so many cars with bodies already hung? Too many things can happen in a year and a half. It doesn’t make sense. Everyone knows that BDR heavily involved with Toyota and that the team is doing the majority of R&D for their Cup program. But the gentleman I spoke to said he saw something else at BDR. It was another Toyota painted in the familiar scheme of Robby Gordon with one of the sponsors already in place on the rear quarter panels. There has been no mention of Gordon going to Toyota so this is a brand new one. If Gordon is going to Toyota, which sponsor, Fruit of the Loom or Jim Beam will go with him? Both are extremely proud American companies so how will their customer base react to such a move?(Inside the Pit Box)(8-13-2005)

If Robby was going to Toyota in 07 you would think Chevy would have some knowlage of this and they would not want to be involved in Robby's Dakar program in 07? I could be wrong but wasent the Hummer deal for 06 and 07?

Also I remeber hearing somewhere that Robby had a Dodge ready that he had got from BDR. It was there just incase the Chevy deal did not come about before the 05 season. And also at the time Jim Smith was a factory Dodge team.

So who really knows whats really going to happen. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the ride.

JrSyko

January 28th, 2006, 20:16

Please say what you think you know.

Nice try but I'm not saying anything. We'll have to just wait and see.

Bohr7

January 29th, 2006, 08:12

FYI, Somebody did see a Jim Beam #7 painted up Toyota Cup car at Bill Davis Racing several months back.

Nowhere did anyone say or print or hint or illude that it was a Jim Beam Toyota at BDR, the story was changed several times but the sponsor's name was NEVER mentioned. The incident occurred right around the time RG lost the FOTL sponsorship and the New Hampshire incident with Michael Waltrip so everyone assumed it was FOTL, no one ever saw the Red Bull thing coming, which of course, now makes sense. I can attest that it was NOT a Jim Beam Camry..............:rolleyes:

FlyHiFlyLo

January 29th, 2006, 19:04

Nowhere did anyone say or print or hint or illude that it was a Jim Beam Toyota at BDR, the story was changed several times but the sponsor's name was NEVER mentioned. The incident occurred right around the time RG lost the FOTL sponsorship and the New Hampshire incident with Michael Waltrip so everyone assumed it was FOTL, no one ever saw the Red Bull thing coming, which of course, now makes sense. I can attest that it was NOT a Jim Beam Camry..............:rolleyes:

Keep rolling your eyes.

It was a Jim Beam Toyota. I confirmed it myself. I was told it was an "Old JB car when several teams were trying to get the sponsorship" At least that is what I was told.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

FlyHiFlyLo

January 29th, 2006, 19:05

Nice try but I'm not saying anything. We'll have to just wait and see.

Than don't say crap like that.

Bohr7

January 30th, 2006, 04:43

FlyHiFlyLo

January 30th, 2006, 12:32

jrsyko wasn't spewing "crap", this just isn't the place for Press Releases, Fly. The difference between professionals with information and those that speculate is the information that they disseminate on public message boards.

There you go, starting in on me first. Oh this coming from the person who Declared last January on a NASCAR SITE that RG was running the Indy 500 in May of 05? Just ignore what I'm saying and go change some bed pans.

JrSyko

January 31st, 2006, 19:40

Than don't say crap like that.

It's not "crap" moron...I'm just not going to reveal what I know for your pleasure. You can find out like everyone else what may or may not happen. Like Bohr said, this isn't the place for press releases nor is my business to go announcing them.

Just ignore what I'm saying and go change some bed pans.

You're a jerk-off. All you do is stroke off RG and try and piss everyone else off. Go find another board to beat your chest on.

FlyHiFlyLo

January 31st, 2006, 20:07

It's not "crap" moron...I'm just not going to reveal what I know for your pleasure. You can find out like everyone else what may or may not happen. Like Bohr said, this isn't the place for press releases nor is my business to go announcing them.

You're a jerk-off. All you do is stroke off RG and try and piss everyone else off. Go find another board to beat your chest on.

Let's see; "Jerk-off, moron, Prick" grow up.

JrSyko

January 31st, 2006, 20:16

Let's see; "Jerk-off, moron, Prick" grow up.

Never said "prick"....but good one! All I'm saying is all you seem to do is get into fights with everyone. Why don't you just try and be cool for once.

FlyHiFlyLo

January 31st, 2006, 20:34

Never said "prick"....but good one! All I'm saying is all you seem to do is get into fights with everyone. Why don't you just try and be cool for once.

Go back through the thread and and see who attacks who first.

ntsqd

February 2nd, 2006, 17:57

The fords and chevys don't offer a rear wheel drive push-rod V-8's in their real world versions. Does'nt stop them from racing those rental cars.

bleah! million dollar Taxi cab racing - who needs it. Too bad they haven't been able to completely contain RG's ego and keep it the heck out of the desert.

Bohr7

February 6th, 2006, 11:00

NTERACTIVE FINANCIAL MARKETING GROUP JOINS ROBBY GORDON MOTORSPORTS AS ASSOCIATE SPONSOR

Robby Gordon to make appearance at IFMG booth1201 at NADA

Richmond, VA – February 6, 2006 -- InterActive Financial Marketing Group, LLC (IFMG) announced today that it has signed an associate sponsorship agreement with Robby Gordon Motorsports for the 2006 NASCAR Nextel Cup Series season.

IFMG’s associate program will include branding on the team’s No. 7 Robby Gordon Motorsports Chevrolet Monte Carlos and an extensive nationwide marketing campaign featuring Robby Gordon in television and radio commercials, specifically customized for each participating Chevrolet partner’s dealership and region. IFMG also plans to develop supporting in-store POP materials for its dealers and special trackside hospitality at select NASCAR events.

“Having a sponsor like Interactive Financial Marketing Group is a perfect match for our team.” said Gordon. “Chevrolet is an important part of our team and when we sat down with IFMG and learned of their goal to help Chevrolet dealers sell more cars to NASCAR fans it made a lot of sense. The program they’ve put together for their Chevrolet dealers is great, and I look forward to growing our relationship together for many years.”

To help launch IFMG’s sponsorship, Gordon will be signing autographs in the IFMG booth during next month’s National Automobile Dealer’s Association (NADA) Convention and Expo at the Orlando Convention Center on Monday, Feb. 13, 2006, from 1–3 p.m. A full-sized NASCAR show car complete with an interactive Daytona USA racing game and widescreen television will also be featured in the booth.

“IFMG is excited to offer our partner Chevrolet dealers the ability to tap into the ever-expanding fan base of America’s fastest growing sport, NASCAR. This opportunity will allow our dealers to distinguish themselves from their competitors and provide the NASCAR fan with a truly unique car buying destination and experience,” said Travis B. Weisleder, President and COO, Interactive Financial Marketing Group.
About IFMG

InterActive Financial Marketing Group, LLC (IFMG), (www.interactivefmg.com) is a top rated national special finance lead generation and marketing company within the automotive industry. With automotive dealer partners in 48 states, IFMG specializes in obtaining high quality special finance customers from its family of brands including hundreds of the most recognized Internet addresses and vanity phone numbers in the industry including www.carloan.comsm, www.autoloan.comsm, 1-800-CAR-LOAN® and 1-800-AUTO-LOAN®.

IFMG provides a highly targeted specialized direct mail program, IFMG Direct; a fully functional CRM, DOLLARtm ; F&I management solutions; a full service bilingual business development call center; an indirect lending arm, InterActive Financial Acceptance, LLC (IFA) which offers financing to our dealers for leads generated; special finance training through InterActive University; and customized advertising programs.

FlyHiFlyLo

April 7th, 2006, 22:52

Red Bull hires Elton Sawyer: Elton Sawyer, who was working with Evernham Motorsports in its driver development program, has been hired by Red Bull Racing as its Director of Competition, a team spokesman confirmed Thursday. Sawyer is third all-time in Busch Series starts with 392. He finished fifth in points three times in the series. He also had 29 Cup starts. Red Bull Racing will field two teams as part of Toyota's Nextel Cup effort next season. The team is owned by the energy drink company.

And...The new NASCAR Nextel Cup Toyota operation that is being backed by Red Bull "has opened the checkbook," according to one top Ford man, who points to Red Bull's hiring of John Propst, a top Ford Motor Company vehicle dynamics specialist, and the hiring of a top Dodge engineer from the Ray Evernham camp for its new stock-car racing team. General Motors executives are anxiously watching their own key engineers for any similar defections. Elsewhere on the Toyota-NASCAR front, Toyota has made a bid to sign a two-year contract with Dale Jarrett, the tour's 1999 champion and a three-time Daytona 500 winner. Jarrett's contract with car owner Robert Yates is up at the end of this season. While it has been unclear for several months if Yates and Jarrett could come to new terms, Ford officials said Yates is offering Jarrett a contract similar to the Toyota deal

bajafox

April 13th, 2006, 10:56

FlyHiFlyLo

April 13th, 2006, 11:02

Hey Fly can you send me the link to that? I'm on a NASCAR forum that's mostly anti-Toyota, anti-Robby, super Pro -HMS, -Dale Jr, -Ford, -Chevrolet

If I post that Jarrett might drive a Toyota soon it could stir up the forum a bit!

I'm not one for stirring things up on a message board so please don't use my name. LMAO

http://www.jayski.com/teams/toyota.htm

bajafox

April 13th, 2006, 11:22

I'm not one for stirring things up on a message board so please don't use my name. LMAO

http://www.jayski.com/teams/toyota.htm

Don't worry, it really doesn't take much to get these guys to start crying. A lot of people start "Jeff sucks" threads to mess with them and they can go up to 100+ posts with all of Jeff lifetime stats about how great he is

SicRic

April 13th, 2006, 23:18

Jeff does suck though

FlyHiFlyLo

April 21st, 2006, 14:13

Red Bull Hire: Red Bull Racing has hired John Probst from Ford Racing Technology, a team spokesman confirmed Tuesday night. Probst will serve as the new team's technical director. A mechanical engineer with a degree from Penn State, Probst was the vehicle systems supervisor for Ford. The Red Bull operation, owned by the energy drink company, will field two Toyota teams in Nextel Cup in 2007. Probst joins a management team that includes recently hired Elton Sawyer as director of competition, Marty Gaunt as general manager and Guenther Steiner as a technical advisor. Steiner comes over from Red Bull Racing's Formula 1 team.(SceneDaily.com)(4-20-2006)

woundedyak

April 21st, 2006, 16:34

I give Toyota 5 years in Nextel and they will be the leaders of the pack. Can't wait to see what happens when Jr,Stewart,J. gordon and proboly all the roush guys start running yota packages!

FlyHiFlyLo

April 21st, 2006, 18:51

I give Toyota 5 years in Nextel and they will be the leaders of the pack. Can't wait to see what happens when Jr,Stewart,J. gordon and proboly all the roush guys start running yota packages!

I give them 2 years.

spalind

April 22nd, 2006, 07:42

I give them 2 years.

I think it will be closer to 2 than 5 years...look at the short amount ot time they have been in the Craftsman series and already the leaderboard is dominated by Toyotas--outside of Mark Martin that is whose operation is in a whole different league than most of the Craftsman racers...

FlyHiFlyLo

April 22nd, 2006, 08:27

Toyota to buy out Robby? Harvick? Jarrett AND UPS? #7-Robby Gordon declined to comment on the latest reports that Toyota and sponsor Red Bull are making an offer to buy him and his entire team. General Motors executives are still hopeful of keeping Gordon in their fold and point to the extensive work they've done to help Gordon become more competitive as an independent owner-driver. #29-Kevin Harvick, also said to be on Toyota's wish list, is still negotiating with GM and owner Richard Childress for a contract renewal, and the yes or no could come in the next few days. Harvick has set a package and price, and the ball is in Childress' court. But team sources indicate that Childress isn't willing to meet Harvick's demands. Childress has been unavailable for comment, and Harvick has declined to comment. According to sources, Dodge owner Ray Evernham may be interested in hiring Harvick.
And Toyota apparently wants not only Dale Jarrett but also his sponsor, UPS. That situation is unclear, but it appears to mean that if car owner Robert Yates wants to keep UPS on his quarterpanels, he would also have to re-sign Jarrett for two more years.(Winston Salem Journal), note: supposedly UPS is signed thru 2007 with Yates and Jarrett is signed thru 2006.(4-22-206)

FlyHiFlyLo

April 22nd, 2006, 08:31

Toyota looking at Fennig? 5 hired from Penske..more: former #26/97/6 Roush crew chief Jimmy Fennig [recently replaced on the #26 and now with Roush in the Busch Series], a highly respected, no-nonsense guy who gained his credentials with Bobby Allison and Mark Martin, is suddenly the hottest item in the stock-car racing garage, with Toyota officials and Dodge's Chip Ganassi expected to make calls. Ganassi is looking for a new team manager for his three-car operation after Andy Graves' resignation. And Fennig could be just the guy to fill the void, with instant credibility. Toyota could be an option. Toyota executives are wide open in building their Nextel Cup tour operations, and now they're raiding teams right and left, according to car owners. Don Miller, of the Roger Penske team, said that Toyota has picked up five Penske men already: "They just offer them $20,000 more than they're currently making, and get them."

Ganassi has been so upset at losing crewmen to Toyota that he has sent the company a "cease-and-desist" letter. That move has many here writing off Ganassi for any Toyota-NASCAR deal.(Winston Salem Journal)(4-22-206)

TRichards

April 23rd, 2006, 20:18

If Robby said "no comment" its probably a good thing, because if signs with Toyota before the end of the year GM will probably cut him off and he really needs the DEI support right now. It is very important to get in the top 35 owner points for next year. I hope he does sign with Toyota/ Red Bull in 07.

TRichards

April 23rd, 2006, 20:48

I was also thinking. No one has brought up the Car of Tommorow. In 07, 16 races including the road courses are going to be with the new chassis. Most of the cars the RGM has built will be outdated and they will have to spend considerable $$ to redo their fleet of cars. Has anyone tested the new Toyota COT? I just think RGM= Toyota/Red Bull. He will get tons of cash on a buyout, get paid serious $$ to drive and will be at the top of the funding chain vs. a bottomfeeder on the GM budget because of Hendrick, Gibbs, DEI and RCR.

HiLift

April 24th, 2006, 19:59

I think someone saw a FOL car at BDR

FlyHiFlyLo

April 24th, 2006, 20:19

I think someone saw a FOL car at BDR

It was a Jim Beam car and the "official reason" was that BDR was attempting to get the Jim Beam sponorship when RGM was tring to get the sponsorship and eventually did.

woundedyak

April 25th, 2006, 10:45

Not to highjack the thread,but if RG went with toyota what will that do to his redbull TT? Does he use DEI motors in it? And As far as the Dakkar goes. Couldn't he just slap a FJ Cruiser body on it and a toyota motor? Okay so he might burn a few bridges with GM but who cares,they are about to file chapter 11 and they will probably drop him after the 07 season. Ugh! I don't know just a thought

bajafox

April 27th, 2006, 10:31

Another good article on NASCAR about Toyota/NASCAR/RGM/Chevrolet

http://www.nascar.com/2006/news/opinion/04/27/rrudd_toyota/index.html

NIKAL

April 27th, 2006, 10:55

Good find bajafox. I also just read it on NOL and was going to post it over here. Your just a little faster then me!

bajafox

April 27th, 2006, 11:09

Good find bajafox. I also just read it on NOL and was going to post it over here. Your just a little faster then me!

I read a rumor on one of my other forums and thought I'd do some investigative work to see if it were true about Ricky Rudd, after I read the whole article it kinda turned into an RGM article so I knew I had to post it here

Bricoop

April 27th, 2006, 11:17

WOW, this really excites me, it looks as though their may be a possible future w/ RGM and Toyota. Of Course I take this stance as an outsider looking in. But I believe with the boat loads of $$$ Toyota will be pouring in, they will be a force to be reconned with. It looks like a really good opportunity for RG...We'll just have to wait and see how it pans out.

bajafox

April 27th, 2006, 11:22

Personally I've been drinking Red Bull since it came out, always been a Robby fan and I strictly drive Toyota's...this would be a dream team for me if it came true and I definetely see myself going to the Daytona 500 if it comes true

Hemp

April 27th, 2006, 22:26

FlyHiFlyLo

April 27th, 2006, 22:38

Not to highjack the thread,but if RG went with toyota what will that do to his redbull TT?

I don't think RG will have one bit of a problem getting a stroked out EFI Toyota Cup motor for the TT.

Bricoop

May 3rd, 2006, 12:42

Sounds like Harvick will stay in a Chevy!!!
http://www.nascar.com/2006/news/headlines/cup/05/02/kharvick.rchildress.deal/index.html