View Full Version : Flat spotting BF,G's Baja t/a's
TheWebWheeler
October 25th, 2006, 16:59
My Baja t/a's are new maybe have 1000 miles on them ( 2 pre-runs Primm & MDR Outlaw 250)
other wise all street miles.
& it seems that if I let the Bronco sit for a few days the tires develop Flat spots until a couple of miles where they warm up & round back out..
Is this common with these high dollar tires?
My low buck regular BF,G's never did this.. http://thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif
DSRacing
October 25th, 2006, 17:01
Everything I've heard about the Baja T/A and project tires is, yes it's normal.
sickrick
October 25th, 2006, 17:36
Everything I've heard about the Baja T/A and project tires is, yes it's normal.
Yes its normal.
Chris_Wilson
October 25th, 2006, 18:41
They are desert racing tires, not street tires.
TheWebWheeler
October 25th, 2006, 20:13
Ok so even though their DOT approved its to be expected. Huh? :confused:
Chris_Wilson
October 25th, 2006, 22:50
Yes it's to be expected from that tire. You might try a different brand or a non-race tire if this is an issue. Baja t/a's are a poor choice for anything other than a race car or a dedicated prerunner in my opinion. The DOT rating has nothing to do with it. My 35" project t/a's are also DOT and they are even more of a full race tire than the baja's. I don't think the 37" projects are DOT. BTW, I have no idea if the projects flat spot overnight, never noticed it on the way to the starting line...
85yota
October 25th, 2006, 23:02
it's because they're bias ply tires. My dad's dump truck and our trailer tires do the same thing. it's really bad on mornings where it's below freezing all night. So yes it's normal for these tires to do that.
jeff
October 26th, 2006, 13:33
The BFG's (37" ribbed sidewall Projects) I had on my Dodge were pretty nice when new... then they started to fall apart from the inside out. At 9000 miles they were so bad I couldn't use them and had to (ack!) run a Toyo instead. The BFG Baja's are NOT a street tire. I'll never run them on a daily driver ever ever ever again. It is 100% expected for the tire to flat spot when parked. On my diesel they could flat spot in a few hours, and in the cold (like +/- 10* F) they are almost undriveable as they never seem to heat up and round back out. If you want a desert tire run the BFG Baja, if you want a nice street tire run something else.
Aloha
TheWebWheeler
October 26th, 2006, 13:50
I'm not complaining because they round out pretty qwick & living in So Cal it dont get that cold here anyways. :cool:
I just wanted to make sure that was normal or if maybe it was'nt the tires..
I could'nt figure out what else it could be..
FYI this is the tire, I'm running.
http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/bfg-02516_w.jpg
Tire, Baja T/A, 35 x 12.50R15/C, Radial, DOT- Approved, C Load Range, Blackwall,
jeff
October 26th, 2006, 13:57
The only major complaint I had with the older style Baja tread design was they sucked in rain. Well, maybe sucked is the wrong word. I could get sideways and stay sideways for blocks at a time. They have zero siping and really don't do well on wet pavement. Not good in snow either, go figure. As a street tire it's a bit of a waste... my opinion (and it ain't worth much) is that running a BFG Baja on a SoCal daily driver pavement pounder is sort of like having a top fuel motor in a grocery getter... doesn't make a whole lotta sense. They sure look bitchin' though! ;)
Aloha
TheWebWheeler
October 26th, 2006, 14:14
I only drive the Bronco a couple of days a week.
I wanted the extra protection these offer while Pre-Running.
My regular BF,G's were getting flats pretty regularly.
& I have always found it strange that they dont sipe their blocks on the street Muds..
http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/bfg-49617.jpg
Even Pro-Comps copy sipes theirs. http://thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif
My Bronco is NOT a daily driver. Its one of my Toys..
But I park it on the street so I have to move it every 3 days, so I drive it to work after 72hours & work is only 5 minutes away (4 Minutes if I make the lights)
I have 3 cars so I would'nt call My Pre-runner a daily driver. http://thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/nono.gif
But is a street drivin Truck No trailer action from my toys..:cool:
jeff
October 26th, 2006, 15:27
Bueno bueno bueno. I've never been able to find fault with BFG's out in the dirt, only on the pavement. I ran a set of their performance tires on my ex-Subaru WRX and loved them. I was always and have tried to remain a BFG guy, I just can't do it with my new truck. The newer solid axle diesel trucks (and a few IFS models) just seem to hate the D load rated BFG tires. Are you listening BFG??? We (1000's of us) need an E rated tire!!!
Aloha
Chris_Wilson
October 26th, 2006, 15:35
The D rated BFG All Terrain in the 295/75R16 size has a higher load rating than the smaller or larger sizes. It's not an E rated tire but it carries loads (almost) like one while still working well for (slow) offroad use plus it airs down nice for sand. Real happy with that tire on my crewcab.
I also have used BFG Comp T/A's on cars (M3 and Cobra) and they wear great, offer predictable handling and promote nice controllable slides for those times when nobody is watching and you just feel the need to drive sideways a little bit.
BFG makes some great street tires. The Baja and Project desert race tires ain't them.
And I agree about the sipes. If I lived in snow country, I'd buy mud t/a's for the winter and have them siped. Many tire shops can do this in the snow belt.
TheWebWheeler
October 26th, 2006, 20:33
These are the ones I run On my Mustang.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/231523/fullsize/img_1676.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/231531/fullsize/img_1677.jpg
The G-Force Tires..
Hard to find but worth the effort in my opinion. :cool:
RooTs
October 26th, 2006, 21:52
BlancoBronco I see that you are experiencing what most people that have tried to run baja's on a DD will do only once. These tires have there place, just not on the street.
Stephen
October 27th, 2006, 00:02
We've noticed some flat spotting even in the BFG AT's. Nothing big and we do see some pretty serious cold weather but I was a bit surprised.
JBO
October 27th, 2006, 00:18
I had my BFG's siped at Americas Tire Co., I think it cost $5 a tire, and it actually made a big difference in the rain.
TheWebWheeler
October 27th, 2006, 07:01
BlancoBronco I see that you are experiencing what most people that have tried to run baja's on a DD will do only once. These tires have there place, just not on the street.
I'm not complaining about it. :rolleyes:
Its just I fugured you guys would know..
They round back out again after a mile or so..
I think their great tires.
Samco Fab
November 7th, 2006, 13:32
The flat spotting is from the use of Nylon in the BFG race tires. Nylon is stronger than the Polyester that is used on street tires, but it has a memory when cooled off, so it flat spots. The "Project" tire is a Radial tire, but it flat spots like a Biased ply Super Swamper, which also uses Nylon in the construction. On the sidewall of a BFG race tire you can find where it says Radial and Nylon.
You can use these fun facts to impress women at bars;)
firedog
November 8th, 2006, 22:47
Bueno bueno bueno. I've never been able to find fault with BFG's out in the dirt, only on the pavement. I ran a set of their performance tires on my ex-Subaru WRX and loved them. I was always and have tried to remain a BFG guy, I just can't do it with my new truck. The newer solid axle diesel trucks (and a few IFS models) just seem to hate the D load rated BFG tires. Are you listening BFG??? We (1000's of us) need an E rated tire!!!
Aloha
This is what I run on my Super Duty, I know it's not an MT or
AT, it is the commercial T/A, but at least it's a BFG and it is "E" rated
Paul
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