Robby will have ___________ in Nascar this year.

[Rufrider]

1-3 Wins

1-3 Top 5 Finsishes

1--3 Top 10 Finishes

[RGFan]

I think RG will have a win this year, I think he wil have several top 5's and lets say close to 10 top 10's this year. Next year with the COT, I think that RG will make a legit run at the Chase. This will be the year that all of the top teams are brought down a couple of notches, their main advantage, engineering, will take a big hit with the new restrictions on the COT.

[Rufrider]

I totally agree with you..if he was still in a Chevy.......the Ford has me disagreeing.

[HarleyR]

I dont think the COT is going to help the small team If anything its going to hurt them.I spent a few months working for a Toyota Nextel Cup team(not MWR) and its easy to say that the small teams dont have the resources to deicate entire groups of people like fabricators test teams and engineers to the project like the bigger ones do.

[RGFan]

I dont think the COT is going to help the small team If anything its going to hurt them.I spent a few months working for a Toyota Nextel Cup team(not MWR) and its easy to say that the small teams dont have the resources to deicate entire groups of people like fabricators test teams and engineers to the project like the bigger ones do.

I also have a couple of friends in the industry. They say in the short term, it will be no help, but come next year, after everyone will have time on the chassis, that things will begin to equal out . There will be virtually no need for aero, because of the tight restrictions placed on the body. The vast majority of the engineering will shift to the chassis and that is restricted heavily as well. Taking the aero out of the equation will be huge for the smaller teams.

[bajafox]

Im a little optimistic, hopefully he should snag one of the road courses this year

I'm not too familiar where the Fords do well but top 10's should come a little easier this year if he can get that aero thing figured out

[michael_loomis]

hmm sooo if he gets 1, 2, or 3 top fives.. all three poll answers are correct? :P

[dezertranger1600]

at least 1-3 wins IMO.

[Goober]

He will continue to suck and do terrible like usual. Yet people continue to pay him millions of dollars. He must have one great PR manager.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

He will continue to suck and do terrible like usual. Yet people continue to pay him millions of dollars. He must have one great PR manager.

That earns you some love a round these parts. :mad:

[DEZERTSUB]

Robby will have--- to survive off his ever-popular name--- in NASCAR one more year. Probly just hang on by a thread, thats stretched just a lil too tight. Do wish him luck and success though

[Bricoop]

He will continue to suck and do terrible like usual. Yet people continue to pay him millions of dollars. He must have one great PR manager.

No Doubt he has great PR. But suck as usual. Go check out the points standings right now. RG appears to be doing a much better job with his priorities than in years past. JMHO.

[RGFan]

He will continue to suck and do terrible like usual. Yet people continue to pay him millions of dollars. He must have one great PR manager.

Stupido!!!:mad: Do you care to back up your "blanket statement" with some fact? How about this tidbit.........He has won in every series he has ever raced in, except for Craftsman Truck Series, tho which he has raced twice and has 1 top 5 and a top 10.

[JRod]

You gotta put RG as a favorite to win at least one of the road races and make at least several other top 5/top 10 runs this year- That and it really seems like he is making an effort towards consistency, at least in the beginning of the year.

[Billnis]

Year, Win, Top5, Top10
2000 0 1 1
2001 1 1 1
2002 0 1 4
2003 2 2 5
2004 0 2 4
2005 0 1 1
2006 0 1 2

Nascar Cup Series Career Averages
Wins- 0.42
Top 5- 1.28
Top 10- 2.57

I didn't count 1999 because he only had 1 start.

2003 was his best year, he's fallen off since.

I don't understand the choices in the poll. He definatly will have at least 0 wins, and his career numbers say he will have at least 1 top 5 and 2 top 10s, so all of your choices will more than likely be correct unless he continues his downward trend which could make only the first choice accurate - 0 wins.

Personally I would put those kinds of stats in the sucky catagory.

To compare with a driver that most RG fans say sucks, here is Michael Waltrips stats for the same period.

Year, Win, Top5, Top10
2000 0 1 0
2001 1 2 0 Daytona 500 winner
2002 1 3 6
2003 2 2 5
2004 0 2 6
2005 0 3 4
2006 0 0 0

Nascar Cup Series 2000-2006 Averages
Wins- 0.57
Top 5- 1.71
Top 10- 3.0


Mikey is ahead in all 3 catagories, but he also has fallen off.

Sorry the tables are a little hard to read.

Bill

[RGFan]

WHile your statistics are true, they are misleading.You fail to mention that Robby Gordon has started a new team from scratch. He is not in equally prepared equipment compared to lets say 2002 or 2003. These things do not happen over night, hence the dip in performance. He did improve last year over 2005, which was his first year in with his own team. Look for a win at one of the road courses, look for several top 5's and add a few more top 10's. The implementation of the COT can only help RG, both financially and setup wise. Instead of needing to know the setups on 8 different cars, they will be able to use the same cars at multiple venues and the team will get to concentrate alot more chassis geometry/setup. This car is supposed to improve safety and allow the smaller teams to compete with the larger teams. Taking the aero factor away will infact do that. Michael Waltrip was with DEI until last year as well. I by no means am a POS apologist, but as far as competing in a car with his own team, this is MWR's second year in all real fact, and he has only made it in one race and is still negative points. The only reason he is ahead of RG in your little scoring system is his 2005 year with a prominent team, compared to RG, who was with his own team. If you want to be a little more accurate with rankings, Compare RGM with MWR and you will see that RG is ahead of MWR in every aspect, this year so far being no different.,

[FlyHiFlyLo]

POS has 4 wins all on plate tracks and after 20 years in stock cars... Here is a good question... How many wins does POS have making it to the finish line AFTER NASCAR took his illegal carburetor in 2003?

Answer: Zippo, Nada, Zilch, Zero.

Every driver, team owner and crew member in the garage will say plate racing is all about the car, then luck.

POS went almost 500 and 0 for wins.

[kaw500]

A few haters are surfacing once again.

[Goober]

I'm just saying like it is. And Billnis proved my point. I didn't say Robby had 0 talent but look at the stats. Do I hate Robby no but there is only suck much *** kissing you can do. Just because he races desert doesn't mean you have to to flip out when someone dislikes him. Robby deserves a lot of respect for continuing to get paid millions for doing little except PR. How he keeps a ride or a team is beyond me.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

How he keeps a ride or a team is beyond me.

Yup... way beyond you.

[dezertranger1600]

Why the hater ade? Give the guy props for starting from SCRATCH...and having a competitive program and car.

[JRod]

I'm just saying like it is. And Billnis proved my point. I didn't say Robby had 0 talent but look at the stats. Do I hate Robby no but there is only suck much *** kissing you can do. Just because he races desert doesn't mean you have to to flip out when someone dislikes him. Robby deserves a lot of respect for continuing to get paid millions for doing little except PR. How he keeps a ride or a team is beyond me.

Hint: He owns his own team, but even if he didn't, he constantly has offers to run elsewhere...

[JRod]

Jack Roush should quit ***kissing as well when he refers to RG being one of the most talented drivers he has ever been around- So should "Smoke"...

[Scrapiron]

He will continue to suck and do terrible like usual. Yet people continue to pay him millions of dollars. He must have one great PR manager.

At least he's not a Goober from Arizona!!

[kaw500]

I think it's kind of cute that others want to give their opinions with out realizing most of us are keenly aware of the facts and stats as it pertains to RGM as well as NASCAR in general.

As I have stated before with RG it's never dull, well this year I may be wrong, big picture racing (top 20's & 15"s) and making a run at a top 20 spot by years end may keep him from being in too many scraps. Long season to go let's see if he can maintain a top 15 points standing after the first 5 events.

[RGFan]

I think it's kind of cute that others want to give their opinions with out realizing most of us are keenly aware of the facts and stats as it pertains to RGM as well as NASCAR in general.

As I have stated before with RG it's never dull, well this year I may be wrong, big picture racing (top 20's & 15"s) and making a run at a top 20 spot by years end may keep him from being in too many scraps. Long season to go let's see if he can maintain a top 15 points standing after the first 5 events.

Isnt it funny. ANd to who ever posted that Michael Waltrip to Robby Gordon, are you kidding me? Do you realize that you were not comparing Michael Waltrip to Robby Gordon, but DEI to RGM in part and a very down RCR at the time? Like I said all along, you put RG in equal equipment, EQUAL, not close, with all of the others, Dale Earnhardt, not Jr, Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, put the top 50 in equal equipment and guess what, RG would score in the top 5 consistantly. Oh yeah, they did do something similar, it was called the IROC in 96 and 97. Guess what, RObby scored 2nd place in points to guess who......Dale Earnhardt. And that was after Earnhardt had 20 plus years in stock cars and Robby had less than 5 starts in stock cars. Robby went to the Race of Champions, guess what, he was one flip from going to the finals. ANd that was against F1 drivers, Ralley drivers, Dakar Drivers, Indy Drivers, so on and so on. I can spend hours on Robby's first times in new equipment, he has never raced and how well he did.

Back to my point, these stats you are showing are not at all a reflection to Robby's skills, but rather to his entrepreunerialism. The only thing keeping RG from having already been a Cup Champ IMO is his wanting to be his own boss and have his own company. His own dad and Jack Roush have already said as much. If you take Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, Matt Kenseth, take them away from their powerhouses and put them in equal equipment with Robby, Robby would very much hold his own if not dominate all together. Along with safety, this is the other big reason they are going with the COT. To help equal the field. This is why IMO you will see the rise of RGM, along with Fords help. It may not be right away, but you will see it.

[Bricoop]

Robby went to the Race of Champions, guess what, he was one flip from going to the finals. ANd that was against F1 drivers, Ralley drivers, Dakar Drivers, Indy Drivers, so on and so on. I can spend hours on Robby's first times in new equipment, he has never raced and how well he did.



Oh and BTW Robby STILL holds the track record there. I believe its been 8 years since the race of champions that he was dominating.

[tpgn00]

I actually think the COT will help RG. Just think about all the notes the larger teams have compiled all these years. With the COT those notes all go out the window. I think it will level the playing field a bit. Nobody knows how these cars are going to respond in a race situation until they get them on the track.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Isnt it funny. ANd to who ever posted that Michael Waltrip to Robby Gordon, are you kidding me? Do you realize that you were not comparing Michael Waltrip to Robby Gordon, but DEI to RGM in part and a very down RCR at the time? Like I said all along, you put RG in equal equipment, EQUAL, not close, with all of the others, Dale Earnhardt, not Jr, Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, put the top 50 in equal equipment and guess what, RG would score in the top 5 consistantly. Oh yeah, they did do something similar, it was called the IROC in 96 and 97. Guess what, RObby scored 2nd place in points to guess who......Dale Earnhardt. And that was after Earnhardt had 20 plus years in stock cars and Robby had less than 5 starts in stock cars. Robby went to the Race of Champions, guess what, he was one flip from going to the finals. ANd that was against F1 drivers, Ralley drivers, Dakar Drivers, Indy Drivers, so on and so on. I can spend hours on Robby's first times in new equipment, he has never raced and how well he did.

Back to my point, these stats you are showing are not at all a reflection to Robby's skills, but rather to his entrepreunerialism. The only thing keeping RG from having already been a Cup Champ IMO is his wanting to be his own boss and have his own company. His own dad and Jack Roush have already said as much. If you take Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, Matt Kenseth, take them away from their powerhouses and put them in equal equipment with Robby, Robby would very much hold his own if not dominate all together. Along with safety, this is the other big reason they are going with the COT. To help equal the field. This is why IMO you will see the rise of RGM, along with Fords help. It may not be right away, but you will see it.

Mini correction. RG finished second in IROC points both years to Mark Martin.

[PatrickG]

And I'm tired of all this talk about 2 time Daytona 500 winner POS when his second win came because of the rain comming and ending the race just past halfway. Who knows how that would have ended considering who was behind him: Bush, JR, Johnson, Robby, and Stewart, who's to say that they wouldn't have passed him.

[JRod]

RG's plane just left for Las Vegas- On his way to his first Top 10 of the year hopefully...

[b-makk]

Year, Win, Top5, Top10
2000 0 1 1
2001 1 1 1
2002 0 1 4
2003 2 2 5
2004 0 2 4
2005 0 1 1
2006 0 1 2

Nascar Cup Series Career Averages
Wins- 0.42
Top 5- 1.28
Top 10- 2.57

I didn't count 1999 because he only had 1 start.

2003 was his best year, he's fallen off since.

I don't understand the choices in the poll. He definatly will have at least 0 wins, and his career numbers say he will have at least 1 top 5 and 2 top 10s, so all of your choices will more than likely be correct unless he continues his downward trend which could make only the first choice accurate - 0 wins.

Personally I would put those kinds of stats in the sucky catagory.

To compare with a driver that most RG fans say sucks, here is Michael Waltrips stats for the same period.

Year, Win, Top5, Top10
2000 0 1 0
2001 1 2 0 Daytona 500 winner
2002 1 3 6
2003 2 2 5
2004 0 2 6
2005 0 3 4
2006 0 0 0

Nascar Cup Series 2000-2006 Averages
Wins- 0.57
Top 5- 1.71
Top 10- 3.0


Mikey is ahead in all 3 catagories, but he also has fallen off.

Sorry the tables are a little hard to read.

Bill


What about the other 50 years of POS's lame career? How many Baja's and Dakar stages was POS winning from 2000 - 2006? No, I didn't say whining but he does win that category.
MWiaPOS!