Atlanta

[kaw500]

OK now NASCAR goes back down south for race #4.

RG solid 14th in points. While just about every one else has moved up or down in the 1st 3 weeks the #7 is the only car remaining in the same spot each week. Still real early.

Toyota still struggling, POS racing just flat sucks.

DEI what up with these guys? I guess little "E" is human. The pits were closed OOPS.

MM still the points leader, I think he will stick to his word.

Tire compounds, Tank size, Toyota, Sponsor wars, Weird driving & MIKEE.
Interesting start to this season.

[spalind]

And don't forget....We get to watch RG race TWICE this week as I believe the Motorola Busch series car is back out for this weekend!!

[b-makk]

And don't forget....We get to watch RG race TWICE this week as I believe the Motorola Busch series car is back out for this weekend!!

Somebody tell Greg to bring twice as much rollbar padding!

kidding, hopefully he's as fast as he was last year.

[b-makk]

He's on the Busch entry list - 44 in total
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/6562476

[JRod]

Sponsor in the article is listed as Verizon- which I believe is one & the same sponsorship pkg with MOTOrola?... Yes, NO?

Heard the cup car will be Beam...would love to see the Beam Black car out as it always looks mean...

[FlyHiFlyLo]

What size tanks this week?

[Bricoop]

What size tanks this week?

"The Cup cars raced approximately a 22.5-gallon fuel cell last year at Atlanta," said David Hoots, NASCAR managing event director. "The 2007 fuel cell holds approximately 18 gallons, plus the filler neck and vent tube."

"NEXTEL Cup cars average 4.5 miles-per-gallon," McReynolds said. "With the 22-gallon cell the teams ran in 2006, they were getting between 64 and 66 laps before having to come to pit road. Now, with the smaller cell, these guys will be running 52-54 laps, about 10 or 12 laps less than last year."

[dezertranger1600]

Anyone think mark martin will stay in the 01 if he wins @ Atlanta?or will he stick to his 22 races?

[Bricoop]

Anyone think mark martin will stay in the 01 if he wins @ Atlanta?or will he stick to his 22 races?

I hope he goes for the full pull. Such a stand-up guy deserves a championship.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Anyone think mark martin will stay in the 01 if he wins @ Atlanta?or will he stick to his 22 races?

I don't think so, He wants to get his son kicking Butt... Matt is very good.

[dezertranger1600]

I hope he goes for the full pull. Such a stand-up guy deserves a championship.

I agree %100...I wish he would've won Daytona...he is long over due.

[dsrtdck]

he said sunday that he doesnt care about the points.

[Bricoop]

the long waited for LV vid.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze2IhSuysWY

"and uh maaaaybe Monster" ;)

[dezertranger1600]

he said sunday that he doesnt care about the points.

True,but if he wins @ Atlanta,it would be REALLY hard to hand the car over to Regan Smith while he's leading in the points.

[RGFan]

he said sunday that he doesnt care about the points.

Yeah, but it is one thing to say it, it is quite another to actually do it. It will be interesting to see what he does when the time comes

[dezertranger1600]

I agree with RGfan...only time will tell for now.

[RGFan]

Yeah, but it is one thing to say it, it is quite another to actually do it. It will be interesting to see what he does when the time comes

He was going to retire 3 years ago as well. I believe he said that was in stone too!:D

[Scrapiron]

Somebody tell Greg to bring twice as much rollbar padding!

kidding, hopefully he's as fast as he was last year.

LMAO!!!

[bajafox]

He was going to retire 3 years ago as well. I believe he said that was in stone too!:D

I've stopped paying ANY attention to when Mark Martin will retire...it's as annoying as the weekly rule changes

[FlyHiFlyLo]

I heard they are bringing the same tire as Vegas.

[kaw500]

I heard they are bringing the same tire as Vegas.


So hard the ones used at LV are still good.

[Bricoop]

Heard through the grapevine today that monster has offered RGM a mil a race. Can anyone back that up?

[JRod]

Mil a race? how does that rank with other sponsors? army, bud, miller lite, lowes, home depot etc...

1Mil a race sounds awesome- of course it's all relative to how much you make a year.:D

[FlyHiFlyLo]

A mill a race is a pipe dream... Jeff gordon doesn't get that... 200-300 would be more in the ball park.

[Bricoop]

A mill a race is a pipe dream... Jeff gordon doesn't get that... 200-300 would be more in the ball park.

Fly, Kahne gets almost an average of 3 a race(100 mil budget/yr). Right now Robby is averaging almost half a mil. RG has a great PR team and I don't see it impossible, just a strech of the truth.

[RGFan]

Fly, Kahne gets almost an average of 3 a race(100 mil budget/yr). Right now Robby is averaging almost half a mil. RG has a great PR team and I don't see it impossible, just a strech of the truth.

Bricoop, man that sounds pretty up there for Kahne. Are you sure that is not including personal endorsements. I just do not see Dodge spending that kind of money on one car, or even 2 cars for that matter in one season with todays financial climate for the big 3. Now if tht was the entire operational budget for Kahne, Sadler and Riggs, I could buy that, but not for just Kahne. Roush is bringing close to that for 5 teams. I am not trying to challenge you, just questioning the info.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Right now I think Ford is putting 2 mill a year plus engines (1.5M). Beam is less than 5, Menard/Mapei is about 4. Verison/Motorola (Busch) is between 3-5. Hummer/GM was 5 for 2 years... If Monster throws down 12 for 12 races plus the dirt stuff on top of that... Good for RGM.

[RGFan]

If Monster was really to give out 1 mil per race, that would be sweet. That is alot of money for one race, when 16-20 mil will buy you the entire season on a car. Do you guys think we will see Monster on a RG car full time next year? Maybe RG will be able to buy out a number in the top 35 like POS has done . If RG can find someone to drive with his driving style, that would be huge as far as setup and R&D go......Ah, this is another topic for another time. How about Paul Menard........

[Bricoop]

Bricoop, man that sounds pretty up there for Kahne. Are you sure that is not including personal endorsements. I just do not see Dodge spending that kind of money on one car, or even 2 cars for that matter in one season with todays financial climate for the big 3. Now if tht was the entire operational budget for Kahne, Sadler and Riggs, I could buy that, but not for just Kahne. Roush is bringing close to that for 5 teams. I am not trying to challenge you, just questioning the info.

What I was told is that is was just for Khane, but Kahne Sadler Riggs seems much more reaonable(I imagine a majority of it goes to Khane though).

[b-makk]

What I was told is that is was just for Khane, but Kahne Sadler Riggs seems much more reaonable(I imagine a majority of it goes to Khane though).

Actually, most of it goes towards fines. And mayfield told me what's leftover goes to Erin Crocker for her stellar driving. :D

[RGFan]

Robby had a top 5 run going for a long while at the Atlanta race last spring. Hopefully they can have the same in the Ford with the finish to match.

[dezertranger1600]

I remember last years race...wasnt it on a monday due to race? If i remember right,didnt RG lose his top 5 spot on a green flag pitstop?

[dezertranger1600]

*due to rain,not race

[RGFan]

I do not remember for sure, but I think he had a flat

[dezertranger1600]

A top 5 or 10 this weekend would be huge for RG...in cup or busch

[b-makk]

Last year was heartbreaking. Short pitted to gain time on the leaders near the end of the race and then everybody ended up making it to the end. To make matters worse, he got caught speeding when he short pitted.
Earlier in the day he was on pit road when a caution came out so he went a lap down but then he drove away from the leaders and got it back (him & Kenseth both).
It was rain delayed until Monday so I watched little numbers go around on trackpass while listening to the radio broadcast.

[dezertranger1600]

It's slowly coming back to me now ha ha...I remember him having a STRONG running car all day...lets hope he's done his fuel mileage homework & won't have the same situation

[RGFan]

here is the post from Robby about that race.....

www.robbygordon.com/cms/publish/article_652.shtml

A real heartbreaker

[Bricoop]

Actually, most of it goes towards fines. And mayfield told me what's leftover goes to Erin Crocker for her stellar driving. :D

AWESOME POST!

[dezertranger1600]

Thats a heart breaker for sure...

[kaw500]

Actually, most of it goes towards fines. And mayfield told me what's leftover goes to Erin Crocker for her stellar driving. :D


LMAO:)

[Bricoop]

Actually, most of it goes towards fines. And mayfield told me what's leftover goes to Erin Crocker for her stellar driving. :D

I heard she is able to drive a stick pretty well! ;)

[JRod]

Again for those who refuse to deal with the new un-improved NOL page, the power rankings- specifically RGs blurb and the link for your reading enjoyment:

"Robby Gordon

Filed under "if the shoe fits," Gordon drove a black car at Las Vegas -- apropos for the black sheep of racing. And I think he wears it very nicely. Forget every misconception you have of the guy; he can drive, he's a single-car entity -- he deserves your respect. Well, maybe not Casey Mears' ..."

http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/features/power_rankings/04/atlanta/

[JRod]

As a side note, Mears is no longer on the power rankings as he has relocated to the powder puff whining rankings...

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Actually, most of it goes towards fines. And mayfield told me what's leftover goes to Erin Crocker for her stellar driving. :D

Don't forget abortions, lawyers and Ray's ex=wife...:D

[RGFan]

Nice comments on Fox Sports of the top 25 ratings (that was sarcasm).......


They did not blatantly flame him, but the little dig about the wreck and no mention of Monster as a sponsor.........It is always a glass half empty outlook when it comes to RG for Fox
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/6572522

[Bricoop]

Nice comments on Fox Sports of the top 25 ratings (that was sarcasm).......


They did not blatantly flame him, but the little dig about the wreck and no mention of Monster as a sponsor.........It is always a glass half empty outlook when it comes to RG for Fox
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/6572522

it's ok, w/ a top 15/10 at vegas we'll prove them all wrong!

[RGFan]

Yeah, you are right. You know, I really hope this is the year he can take it up a notch to the next level. I am not expecting miracles. But, if he can finish inside the top 20 come years end, I really think that could be huge for him and RGM. He had a solid start last year as well and then went up and down for the rest of the season. Once the Ford announcement came out, man did things fall off fast. From top 25 in points to 30th.....That hurt. We are only 3 races in, but man the excitement is starting to build. I really think that Ford (Dan Davis) and Roush (lets face it, Roush is Ford as well) believe in RG. If he can stay in the top 20, I think you will see a second car and a solid driver for RGM. Ford has a way of making things Ok for their teams, just look at RYR

[woundedyak]

I heard she is able to drive a stick pretty well! ;)

Is she even old enough to have a driver Licens?

[RGFan]

Is she even old enough to have a driver Licens?


LMFAO!!!

[kaw500]

Well Louisville is destroying my Cardinals so I guess I'll let the tournament go this weekend and concentrate on Atlanta.

Qualifying Friday 7:00 pm EST, night qualifying for a day race don't see that too much. RG needs to come up with a decent run in qualifying that will go right along with another top 20 (maybe top 10) in the race.

[dezertranger1600]

Will qualifying be on SPEED?

[RGFan]

I would imagine

[kaw500]

Will qualifying be on SPEED?


4:00 PST followed by the truck race. Looks like SPEED has coverage of all events at Atlanta on Friday.

[dezertranger1600]

Damn,no SPEED channel for me.

[kaw500]

Damn,no SPEED channel for me.

What no cable in the carrot capital??

[JRod]

Damn,no SPEED channel for me.

That's too bad- you could be watching the Vegas race all over again right now...lol

[dezertranger1600]

What no cable in the carrot capital??

haha our cable provider doesnt carry SPEED...you need a sat.dish down here.:mad:

[JRod]

haha our cable provider doesnt carry SPEED...you need a sat.dish down here.:mad:

Pick your poison- Here in Phx, no Outdoor Channel on cable (no BITD coverage), but we have Speed.:mad:

[dezertranger1600]

That sucks...i'm thinkin about gettin the nascar directv deal...is it worth it?

[DEZERTBOUND]

Damn,no SPEED channel for me.

Life without the speed channel.......

[dezertranger1600]

wth????

[DEZERTBOUND]

wth????

It's a "b-i-t-c-h".......

[dezertranger1600]

lol yeah,the picture kinda threw me off......haha

[kaw500]

That sucks...i'm thinkin about gettin the nascar directv deal...is it worth it?


I've heard its a good deal other than MIKEE being some part of it during the last 2 races he missed.:D

Not sure if you'd get all the SPEED feed might be worth a look.

[dezertranger1600]

lmao I love the waltrip bashing on here:D

[DanDan]

lmao I love the waltrip bashing on here:D

Waltrip bashing? On here? Got any proof?

[kaw500]

Anybody else catch RG's interview on Sirus radio? Good stuff, about LV he admitted he was aggressive but said he needed to go to the front after such a bad Q time. Said he likes CM and understands the pressure he is under, no bad blood over the comments from him.

Blank car last week, he pointed to the Motorola deal that fell thru in Dec. Said he was still trying to catch up from that deal falling thru but did say he had the funds to make it thru the year and never mentioned Monster. Admitted qualifying is their biggest weakness but pointed to his pit crew for their efforts and had real good attitude about this weekends race.

It was a good interview by Jack Arute and RG was stand up guy, answered all the questions real well I thought.

[RGFan]

Speaking about talking about Casey Mears, Here is a good article from wednesday while they were testing the COT at Greenville-Pickens





Here is a better link of the article


http://www.autoracingdude.com/nascar/news/2007/3/14/robby-gordon-of-the-nextel-cup-series-talks-with-ahn

[JRod]

According to Speed, no more rain for the day, but the wind is horrible.

Mark Martin just got interviewed and said he will not be racing Bristol or Martinsville, but is open to expanding his schedule as the year goes on.

[kaw500]

Speaking about talking about Casey Mears, Here is a good article from wednesday while they were testing the COT at Greenville-Pickens
Here is a better link of the article
http://www.autoracingdude.com/nascar/news/2007/3/14/robby-gordon-of-the-nextel-cup-series-talks-with-ahn

Good article he said pretty much the same thing on the radio. It was kind of funny, he was late calling in and the announcers were making cracks like he doing a lap around the Sahara of he's out already pre-running this years B1K.:D

[JRod]

from thatsracin.com:

Robby Gordon loses
2nd Nextel sponsor
By JIM UTTER

HAMPTON, Ga. – Robby Gordon has lost his second primary sponsor for his Nextel Cup team is as many weeks.

Gordon had obtained a partial sponsorship, including this weekend’s race at Atlanta, from Motorola but NASCAR refused to allow Gordon to keep the sponsor decals on his No. 7 Ford Friday because of a conflict with series sponsor Sprint Nextel.

Although Motorola has a relationship with Sprint Nextel, it was through Motorola’s relationship with wireless competitor Verizon that the sponsorship deal was made.

“It’s going to have an effect on our race team. I didn’t anticipate anything like this, I can promise you that,” Gordon said.

“NASCAR has tried to work with us on this. Supposedly this has to do with NASCAR’s deal with Nextel and there is something there which will not allow this to happen.”

NASCAR officials said they informed Gordon the sponsor was not allowed on Thursday. As of noon Friday the team had still not removed the Motorola decals from the car but planned to do so before Cup qualifying Friday night.

Gordon did not have sponsorship on his Cup car last weekend at Las Vegas after former sponsor Harrah’s opted not to return.

[JRod]

This is unbelievable- Effin bastards at Nascar, including Brian France and every last one of them. Their own website had Motorola listed as the sponsor since last week, and then on Thursday they tell him he can't run them? It's a bunch of good-ole-boy BS. I hope RG wins, or wrecks the crap out of every last @$$-kissing other Nextel Cup team.

[RGFan]

So who in nascar has RG pissed off now...........

[JRod]

The worst of it is that I am not sure RG has the time or money to fight Na$crap on the legal front, but this just seems like a huge-***** stretch of the whole sponsorship conflict thing.

[RGFan]

I can not believe that Motorola is not getting involved and contacting Nextel right now. What a bunch of crap.

[RGFan]

Nascar really needs to step up and say no more. They are hurtring RCR with the 31 CIngular ride (not as much obviously) They are hurting RG............Not right at all

[RGFan]

I am sure Nextel is in no hurry to help out RG, he used to wear that completely blacked out Nextel Cup Patch when he was driving the 31 Cingular Car. The sad thing is, RObby probably had nothing to do with that

[JRod]

RG should get a temporary injunction out of federal court to keep the sticker/sponsorship since Na$car has known for at least a week. There wouldn't be a hearing until at least next week, but if it's granted, he would be able to keep the sponsorship for Sunday.

[b-makk]

WOW that sucks

[RGFan]

Jayski said that RG is going to run the Verizon colors for Busch and Motorola for the Cup Race, it was posted this morning. What is the truth?

[JRod]

scenedaily.com has an article and a pic of the crew removing the stickers. it also has some interesting insights:

-motorola has been on the car as associate for the last three races with no problem
-motorola has their logo all over nextel.com
-motorola is the official radio supplier of na$car

And yet, they can't sponsor a car according to the a-holes at Na$car.

[REEVESRacing]

http://www.autoracingdude.com/nascar...talks-with-ahn (http://www.autoracingdude.com/nascar/news/2007/3/14/robby-gordon-of-the-nextel-cup-series-talks-with-ahn)

Pretty well said:


Joe
Fri Mar 16 11:58:13 -0400 2007
Very good article. It was unfortunate that RG was blamed for Sunday's wreck. Ward Burton was quoted as saying he checked up.That is how Robby Gordon got under him. When Ward ran him down the track, he had nowhere to go. As far as Robby Gordon, talent wise, he is world class. He and Juan Montoya are the only drivers in the series to have earned an F1 test( Jeff Gordon's was a publicity stunt sponsored by speed channel). Little known fact, Robby Gordon actually turned down racing in F1, he tested for Mcclaren in the early 90's. He tested in the rain and was running competetive laps in the worst possible test conditions. He did not want to race in Europe. Robby's only weakness is his drive to be an owner. It is probably the only reason he is not now a Champion. Another factoid....Robby was offered a position with Jack Roush in the 90's to be Mark Martin's first teammate at Roush. He opted out for Champ Cars.......He really does not get enough credit. He was brash, cocky, very confident as a young driver and it rubbed the old school Nascar Fans and Drivers a little raw. The Nascar crowd can be very unforgiving, Robby Gordon is a prime example of that and the majority of the media has jumped on that. It is very sad. Robby Gordon is one of those drivers cut from the same cloth as Parnelli Jones, AJ Foyt, Mario Andretti, Mickey Thompson and yes, even Tony Stewart. He will race in anything and win in anything. He proves it year in and year out.

[kaw500]

Aw come on WTF I try to be just a fan and stay on the sidelines but this SUCKS. I am now begining to belive that NASCAR does have it in for RG. Total BS how much more can they do to keep the little guy down!!

[b-makk]

nascar is a POS!

[JRod]

nascar is a POS!

No, I believe POS is Na$car's b@$tard child- the rotten apple from a rotten tree... You could also say that POS is the SOB.

[RGFan]

I hope he has a bitchen car this weekend and wins so on National TV he can thank Monster, Motorola and Verizon for their attemtped support that Nextel and Nascar Took Away and thank Cingular Wireless for the years of support that they gave him. And then on the Victory Lane show with Jimmy Spencer and Kenny Wallace after the race, he and Greg Irwin can turn down the mandatory winner interview with them, he can go on to tell them he is not giving them an interview because they always talk so badly about him

[JRod]

he should do his winners interview via his motorola telephone brought to you by verizon- since he will be in his hauler drinking a monster.

[woundedyak]

The sad thing is......... Not only does Nascar try to dictate what tools I use,Which beer to drink,Which home imporvement store to shop at. They are even dictating Which Phone service I need. This really doesn't surprise me. My work "sponsers" alot of events along with other companys. Alot of the compeditors have in thier contracts that another compeditor can not share sponsership. But,it's usally in the small print.

[kaw500]

RG 28th in practice 29.71 fastest was KB at 29.16 listing still shows sponsor as Motorola. WHAT A JOKE!

RG Qualifying 48th this evening.

Brian I hate to be the barer of bad news but this was posted see post #72 and it sucks even more after you posted it again.:D LOL

[Bricoop]

If Robby had the funds he should sue like AT&T. Motorola makes Nextel phones. It makes no sence whatsoever. F word.

[Bricoop]

Damn, you go to take one final, come back and s**t has already hit the fan.

[kaw500]

Damn, you go to take one final, come back and s**t has already hit the fan.

We don't miss a beat. RG got the royal hosing

[mattb]

I hate to bring up last weeks subject, but I've had a long day..

For those of you who like to bash of Robby and his "Off the Cuff" style.. This could be perceived as a strategic rebuttal to Casey's lashing-

"As far as Casey Mears is concerned, I think he is under an extreme amount of pressure right now. He has the same tools as Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson and he is not getting the same results as them. On his side, I can understand where his disappointment is, but he is going to need to step up his game and concentrate on that."

If I was Casey, I'd be hearing- "At least I'm not sucking as bad as he is right now. He's got a better package, and he can't hang out with the big boys."

Nice job on the control.

[REEVESRacing]

Here....let me fan the flames a little more:


Jord Nicely
Fri Mar 16 16:40:29 -0400 2007
I agree with Joe about Robby Gordon. The man is an exceptional talent and I catch the crap week in and week out about being a loyal fan. Yes I think that the analogy of his cut of the cloth is very true. It is a shame that he recieves so much flak, but yet as a single car team, he is "out running" some of the best multi-car teams. I'd rather suffer week in and week out rooting for a driver that is not afraid to say what he feels and can back it up on the track. Sooner or later he is going to turn heads in a big way, and when that day comes watch out. I'm definatly a Gordon fan for life. It would also be great to see him back at "Indy" in May & this time not run short on fuel....................

[dezertranger1600]

Will POS make the race this week?:D

[FlyHiFlyLo]

NASCAR MEMO:

To all owners;

Here is a list of potential sponsors me and my massive marketing group took from you (The Core of the Sport).

x

x

x

x

x

x

x

x

x

x

x



Please note: All funds generated from these sponsors I took from you go into my pocket and not yours.

Best wishes B.F.

PS. Not only did I take these sponsors from you, I also told them YOU CAN'T go to their competitors either.

Once again, Best wishes B.F.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

So POS gently scrapes the wall on the strait at the end of practice and POS was to qual with his 1st draw and now get's to qualify last? Total BS!

Don't tell me that wasn't on purpose.

[Jack]

MWR goes home again. Wiil not race

[Jack]

Manard is in again

[FlyHiFlyLo]

POS is dust again....

[Jack]

Robby is wiggling all over the place in qual and is 42nd quick with 3 to go.

[dezertranger1600]

MWR goes home again. Wiil not race

LMAO!! Toyota has to be sh!tting bricks right now.

[RGFan]

Honest to god, how in the heck can we send an email to Nascar? Not Nascar.com, they are a seperate entity. I want Nascar HQ. I want Mike Heltons Office. ANd I want to send a letter of protest letting them know how upset I am with this decision.

[woundedyak]

I hate to bring up last weeks subject, but I've had a long day..

For those of you who like to bash of Robby and his "Off the Cuff" style.. This could be perceived as a strategic rebuttal to Casey's lashing-

"As far as Casey Mears is concerned, I think he is under an extreme amount of pressure right now. He has the same tools as Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson and he is not getting the same results as them. On his side, I can understand where his disappointment is, but he is going to need to step up his game and concentrate on that."

If I was Casey, I'd be hearing- "At least I'm not sucking as bad as he is right now. He's got a better package, and he can't hang out with the big boys."

Nice job on the control.


Casey has got his work cut out. The # 48,24,5 have qualified in the top 10.

[dezertranger1600]

If mears doesnt shape up,I doubt he'll be with Hendrick next year..am i right or not?

[woundedyak]

If mears doesnt shape up,I doubt he'll be with Hendrick next year..am i right or not?

I'm sure he has a three year contract. Everyone knows that he can drive. If he doesn't start getting some results.I'm willing to bet they will make some crew members changes and see how that works out. Hell,they stuck with Vickers for four years. His only win came by taking out his team mate.

[dezertranger1600]

Ill admit he can drive,but he needs to get his a*s in shape...at least he's not in waltrips shoes...hahaha

Yeah,i remember brian's win...JJ wasnt too happy about that...

[Ryno]

MWR has Dale Jarrett's Past Champs provisional keeping them in the race. Anybody want to start taking side bets if POS will actually qualify for a race this year? Jarrett has now used 2 out of 6 possible provisional spots he can use. 4 more races, and no MWR at all. At what point do big corp's like Toyota, NAPA, etc sit Mikey down and have a little chat? I really wish Speed channel would get him off the air, he's just starting to get annoying now.

RG got the ROYAL hosing. Sirius was having a big show about it today, and it was funny....they were trying to say that the Motorola that sponsors RG is the motorola from verizon, not Sprint/ Nextel. Funny, but we probably have over 1000 nextels for the company I work for, and all of them are made by motorola. A phone/ radio is a phone/radio. They all come off the same assembly line.

[RGFan]

MWR has Dale Jarrett's Past Champs provisional keeping them in the race. Anybody want to start taking side bets if POS will actually qualify for a race this year? Jarrett has now used 2 out of 6 possible provisional spots he can use. 4 more races, and no MWR at all. At what point do big corp's like Toyota, NAPA, etc sit Mikey down and have a little chat? I really wish Speed channel would get him off the air, he's just starting to get annoying now.

RG got the ROYAL hosing. Sirius was having a big show about it today, and it was funny....they were trying to say that the Motorola that sponsors RG is the motorola from verizon, not Sprint/ Nextel. Funny, but we probably have over 1000 nextels for the company I work for, and all of them are made by motorola. A phone/ radio is a phone/radio. They all come off the same assembly line.

Actually, he has used his 4th this weekend at Atlanta, he only has 2 Champion provisionals left. You are right about RG though, he got the shaft. He even offered to put Nextel Stickers on the car free of charge, next to Motorola and remove any and all Verizon references. It seems like some sort of payback on Nascars part.

[AZBadseed]

Looking on Jayski; Helton said it was a NASCAR decision not a NEXTEL decision. Interesting since the Busch series is also a NASCAR sanctioned event. Thats like saying...."sorry you class7 guys cant run red bull sponsor....but it's cool for you class 11 guys." WTH?

He ought to put a big friggin SCORE sticker on that thing just before the anthem!!! "Sorry Mr. Helton not enough time to change it now"

[NIKAL]

Hearing that Nascar and RGM worked some sort of deal out and we might see Motorola on the car after all. They might do something with the logo and make it like he is sponsored by Motorola Audio division. So maybe it will say MP3 or something next to Motorola's name. I dont know it just what I heard.

[kaw500]

Hearing that Nascar and RGM worked some sort of deal out and we might see Motorola on the car after all. They might do something with the logo and make it like he is sponsored by Motorola Audio division. So maybe it will say MP3 or something next to Motorola's name. I dont know it just what I heard.

Hope they can come to some sort of agreement and RG follows todays soild finish with one tomorrow.

[Bricoop]

NASCAR brokers deal for paint scheme for Robby Gordon car sponsor
MIKE HARRIS
HAMPTON, Ga. (AP) - Robby Gordon will get to start Sunday's NASCAR Nextel Cup race at Atlanta Motor Speedway with a primary sponsor on his No. 7 Chevrolet after all.

Gordon, an owner/driver in the Cup series, showed up at the track Thursday with the logo of his Busch Series sponsor, Motorola, on his cup car. NASCAR immediately told Gordon that, because of the non-compete clause in its contract with telecommunications giant Sprint Nextel, which sponsors its premier series, he could not make the change.

But NASCAR spokesman Jim Hunter said a compromise was reached Saturday.

"We've worked with members of Robby's team to come up with a reasonable paint scheme solution for tomorrow's race," Hunter said. "When the team unloaded here this week, the car had a paint scheme on it that had yet to be approved. Due to the limited time frame, we worked with Robby and his team to come up with a non-wireless solution."

"He will therefore run in tomorrow's race with an approved paint scheme carrying a digital audio player Motorola design on the car."

Hunter said Gordon will be allowed to use those logos for the rest of the Cup season.

Gordon was not available for comment.

This compromise came a day after another telecommunications giant, AT&T, sued NASCAR after racing series officials would not let the company put its logo on Jeff Burton's race car.

Burton's No. 31 car is sponsored by cell phone service provider Cingular, but AT&T recently took full ownership of Cingular as part of its recent merger with BellSouth and intends to eliminate the brand name.

The lawsuit calls altering the design of the No. 31 car an "integral part" of the company's brand name switch, and that NASCAR's refusal to allow it inhibits the company's ability to "attract new customers and retain existing ones."

"Our position remains that we don't comment on litigation," Hunter said.






© The Canadian Press, 2007

[RGFan]

NASCAR brokers deal for paint scheme for Robby Gordon car sponsor
MIKE HARRIS
HAMPTON, Ga. (AP) - Robby Gordon will get to start Sunday's NASCAR Nextel Cup race at Atlanta Motor Speedway with a primary sponsor on his No. 7 Chevrolet after all.

Gordon, an owner/driver in the Cup series, showed up at the track Thursday with the logo of his Busch Series sponsor, Motorola, on his cup car. NASCAR immediately told Gordon that, because of the non-compete clause in its contract with telecommunications giant Sprint Nextel, which sponsors its premier series, he could not make the change.

But NASCAR spokesman Jim Hunter said a compromise was reached Saturday.

"We've worked with members of Robby's team to come up with a reasonable paint scheme solution for tomorrow's race," Hunter said. "When the team unloaded here this week, the car had a paint scheme on it that had yet to be approved. Due to the limited time frame, we worked with Robby and his team to come up with a non-wireless solution."

"He will therefore run in tomorrow's race with an approved paint scheme carrying a digital audio player Motorola design on the car."

Hunter said Gordon will be allowed to use those logos for the rest of the Cup season.

Gordon was not available for comment.

This compromise came a day after another telecommunications giant, AT&T, sued NASCAR after racing series officials would not let the company put its logo on Jeff Burton's race car.

Burton's No. 31 car is sponsored by cell phone service provider Cingular, but AT&T recently took full ownership of Cingular as part of its recent merger with BellSouth and intends to eliminate the brand name.

The lawsuit calls altering the design of the No. 31 car an "integral part" of the company's brand name switch, and that NASCAR's refusal to allow it inhibits the company's ability to "attract new customers and retain existing ones."

"Our position remains that we don't comment on litigation," Hunter said.






© The Canadian Press, 2007


Damned it!!! I have sent letters to Claire B Lang, Dave Despain on Speed Channel and a few others, calling out Nascar. The last straw for me was Jeff Green getting to run the Samsung brand on the hood.....As HDTV. I am sure that many gave nascar an earfull. This was the first positive press I have seen RG get in quite some time. Good news!!!

[Ryno]

It's dumb. To the point of rediculous dumb. Motorola is the #1 supplier of Nextel phones. Motorola is also the official radio of Nascrap. The whole deal stinks of a rooster in the hen house.

[dezracer9]

no doubt!! verizon is more of a direct hit against nextel than motorola ever will be!!!

[RGFan]

Just saw the #7 in all its wrappings. It looks exactly the same except for some little white letters below the Motorola logo that say digital audio player in a little tiny font. You will not even be able to read the letters from the stands, just the Big "M".

[kaw500]

30 laps in RG up to 28th car looks good.

[kaw500]

Damm a great pit stop for RGM up 5 spots to 21st. That a good sign last year it seemed like he would always lose spots in the pits. He was happy on the radio.

[RGFan]

Damm a great pit stop for RGM up 5 spots to 21st. That a good sign last year it seemed like he would always lose spots in the pits. He was happy on the radio.

Yeah, they changed quite a few people on the pit crew for this season. Hey, where is Casey Mears?:D He cant blame Robby this week.

[kaw500]

140 laps of 325 rg 17th real clean race

Yellow lap 142 lost 3 spots RG 20th when it goes green.

Field lapped up thru 24th

[kaw500]

Lap 178 RG says car is horrible pitted now 1st car 2 laps down 36th. Car is good again lets see what he can make up.

[RGFan]

Thats what I get for talking trash

[kaw500]

lap 223 RG got up to 21st 1st car a lap down pitted early and out comes the yellow DAMM. Lets see what it looks like when it goes green may still be in OK shape 1 lap down

[kaw500]

Green 27th 1 lap down 19 cars on the lead lap we need another caution NOW

GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!

[JRod]

one more car to pass for the lucky dog...

[kaw500]

one more car to pass for the lucky dog...

With all the crap he's been thru in last 100 laps would'nt that be something. Another top 20 on the menu!

[kaw500]

sure are a lot of empty seats

[JRod]

really hope RG gets out as the first car a lap down, because you know it won't go green to the end

[kaw500]

really hope RG gets out as the first car a lap down, because you know it won't go green to the end


did it, game on

[JRod]

The other Gordon is really breathing down our neck...

[JRod]

here's hoping Juantoya doesn't bow to the other Gordon and keeps blocking him out for us...

[kaw500]

Did DW really say something good about RG?

[JRod]

dangit- forget about the last one... RG is going to have to out drive him.

[kaw500]

Fuel will be an issue, Greg told RG he's 4 laps short.

[JRod]

Did DW really say something good about RG?

"no one will push you harder than robby gordon..."

[kaw500]

Fuel will be an issue, Greg told RG he's 4 laps short.

The 7 will pit lap 305 WE NEED A YELLOW!!

[kaw500]

CAUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gald he stayed out

[RGFan]

AH, top 20, I will take it. Man he was holding strong with the top 5 speed wise

[kaw500]

RG the 20th not a bad run all things considered he will stay in the top 15 in points.

[kaw500]

RG the 20th not a bad run all things considered he will stay in the top 15 in points.

16th in points Montoya made a big jump today it is still good

[REEVESRacing]

good day!

...another steady run for RG & team.

[b-makk]

4 races with 100+ points, good job! Bristol is always a test for him, let's hope he keeps the streak alive.

[RGFan]

4 races with 100+ points, good job! Bristol is always a test for him, let's hope he keeps the streak alive.

Bristol and Martinsville are not good tracks for him. But then back to Texas, a track he was strong at last year as well.

[Ryno]

20th today, and 16th in points is keeping his goals. Alot better than playing catch-up. Montoya is showing everyone that he's no joke. MWR, however, caught flack from Jimmy Spencer. Jimmy told POS to fix his team, and quit trying to buy points. 2 more races, and things really get interesting.

[RGFan]

20th today, and 16th in points is keeping his goals. Alot better than playing catch-up. Montoya is showing everyone that he's no joke. MWR, however, caught flack from Jimmy Spencer. Jimmy told POS to fix his team, and quit trying to buy points. 2 more races, and things really get interesting.


I heard that also, was a bit suprised to be honest with you, those two (Jimmy and Kenny) usually play favorites

[woundedyak]

Atta boy Robby!!!!!!!!! That was by far there best run yet! Over came a few problems to have a good finish!

restarted a lap down in front of the leaders and ran with them all day. I bet this race was a huge confidence builder. Also stoked to see Montoya and Sorenson (sp?)to have a good run! I bet Montoya will win a cup race this year if he doesn't burn out first.Now with Bristol coming up(which I will be at.) I think this going to be one of the best races in a long time. Everyone is going to be on a level playing field.Brand new untested cars.I think the person who can keep the fenders on the car will come out on top!
On the other hand,poor Toyota. I Think Only one car finished the race.

[spalind]

I just love the fact that now 4 races into the season (crossing my fingers) we have yets to see an engine failure and yet to see RG whacked by any blown tires, screwry rulings, taken out by another competitor, etc....its great to see him always running at the end of the day....

[dezertranger1600]

Very good run for RG today...stayed up with the big boys while he was a lap down,and i am also glad to see he hasnt blown a motor or smacked the wall yet.

[Jack]

Was it just me or did it seem like TV was doing everything they could not to show Robby, watching the ticker on top roll by until the time you would expect to see #7 then, comercial, or lets see Jeff's stats, or tech talk. A few times Robby was up to 12th place, and trhey would show to number 11th, then when he was back they would go up to 15th. I wantted to jump through the screen, it is always a problem watching for him because you never know what happens going from lead lap to 2 laps down then back up, always a surprise when you find out later.

[RGFan]

Was it just me or did it seem like TV was doing everything they could not to show Robby, watching the ticker on top roll by until the time you would expect to see #7 then, comercial, or lets see Jeff's stats, or tech talk. A few times Robby was up to 12th place, and trhey would show to number 11th, then when he was back they would go up to 15th. I wantted to jump through the screen, it is always a problem watching for him because you never know what happens going from lead lap to 2 laps down then back up, always a surprise when you find out later.

I have been thinking that for years, just never said anything. WHen Robby is 12th, they will show top 10 and as soon as he drops a position or two, they will show the top 12. Probably has nothing to do with Robby, but it sure seems that way.

[b-makk]

Go for Trackpass, then you can listen to his team & know where he is & why he is short pitting, etc.
I'm hooked, it's way better now that every driver's audio is available every week.

[bajafox]

I thought the race yesterday was kind of boring.

I didnt know who sponsered RG yesterday, kept looking for his car and never came up on TV until him and JG were "battling" for the lucky dog position.

I'm seriously getting over NASCAR entirely...

[dezertranger1600]

I want to get Trackpass because Fox or TNT do not show robby unless he's spun out or in casey mears' case,one upped him self.

Its pure BS.

[RGFan]

Go for Trackpass, then you can listen to his team & know where he is & why he is short pitting, etc.
I'm hooked, it's way better now that every driver's audio is available every week.

I will not give Nascar a fricken dime of my money. After all of the crap they have tried to pull. Once they become a fair, respectable sporting organization, with rules in black and white, I may change my stance. Until then, they can go f themselves. The only reason that they helped Rg at all this weekend with the entire Motorola thing was because all of the negative press they recieved in 48 hours time.

[Soylent_Green]

On the new FreeFM offroad radio show in San Diego last night they had a call in from Robby Gordon. He stated that Cal Wells was with RGM in Atlanta and that they were trying to put something together to bring Wells into the RGM organization. Anyone else here this or know anything about it?

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oh, and not Nascar related - he said he was going to solo the 1000 this year. Tired of handing off the lead truck 3 out of 4 times only not to win.

[RGFan]

On the new FreeFM offroad radio show in San Diego last night they had a call in from Robby Gordon. He stated that Cal Wells was with RGM in Atlanta and that they were trying to put something together to bring Wells into the RGM organization. Anyone else here this or know anything about it?

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oh, and not Nascar related - he said he was going to solo the 1000 this year. Tired of handing off the lead truck 3 out of 4 times only not to win.


I know that he and Cal are old friends. I do not know what Cal can offer. He sold the 32's number and points to MWR. And to be honest, his team was not competetive in years if ever really at all. I think they had two wins or something like that. He could not drum up much sponsor money for his car either. Maybe he is going to take over some of John Story's responsibilities. Cal does have alot of toyota ties???????????

[FlyHiFlyLo]

[quote=Soylent_Green;265559]On the new FreeFM offroad radio show in San Diego last night they had a call in from Robby Gordon. He stated that Cal Wells was with RGM in Atlanta and that they were trying to put something together to bring Wells into the RGM organization. Anyone else here this or know anything about it?

[quote]

Some guy named Fly mentioned a Cal Wells/RGM management deal last year. :eek:

I had hoped something like that could happen. But of course Ol' Chase2 said it could never happen. Cal could offer major support in the delegation of tasks within the org. I could only guess at how awesome RG's Dakar team would be next year if Cal had a chunk of that task too.

Yeah, good deal on the solo. RG should be a 5 time Baja 1000 champ.

As for CUP cars, Cal has one or two COTs to throw in the mix too.

For now until RG gets the new Garage Majal done he could base his Dakar team out of Cal's shop too. People would be trippin seeing the Monster T-4 cruz'n Charlotte.

[randy s]

what's trackpass. i'm not a big nascar fan. hearing the pit audio might help it be less boring. all except for the wonderful pre-race commentary of course. makes my skin hurt. rather watch snow melt.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

what's trackpass. i'm not a big nascar fan. hearing the pit audio might help it be less boring. all except for the wonderful pre-race commentary of course. makes my skin hurt. rather watch snow melt.

I have always had it, it's worth the $$$. Cept this year I got a new computer for my livingroom and have XP64PRO and it won't work. I hear it is better than last year.

http://www.nascar.com/trackpass/

[Bricoop]

I have always had it, it's worth the $$$. Cept this year I got a new computer for my livingroom and have XP64PRO and it won't work. I hear it is better than last year.

http://www.nascar.com/trackpass/

way better fly. It is the same as the ESPN 360 replays. Except that is what we get to watch all race long. Might even be worth the price of an old computer.

[Bricoop]

Busch race report:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oscdNZP02xc

[Bricoop]

The Motorola cup video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqu3UtlPB2w&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Erobbygordon%2Ecom%2Fcms%2F publish%2Findex%2Eshtml

Best video yet, IMO. Also how do you get a bad set/code of tires?

[kaw500]

I have always had it, it's worth the $$$. Cept this year I got a new computer for my livingroom and have XP64PRO and it won't work. I hear it is better than last year.

http://www.nascar.com/trackpass/

Got to agree with COOP on Trackpass as you convinced me last year no better way to watch the race and yeah it's up a notch.

[BAJACATDIESEL]

Would love to see call part of the RGM program . I think where call messed up was letting good engineering driven people get away. People like Roy McCaulley,Scott Miller,Pat Smith etc ALL NOW WINNING crew chiefs . Only problem with calls shop is its in Hickory NC bout 50 to 75 miles from RGM ...