Charlotte

[RGFan]

Well, with the All Star Race this weekend and the 600 the week after in the old car, what are your thoughts.......RG and Team have a much better handle on this car, especially with the 1 1/2 mile program. I look for a better weekend at the Coca Cola 600, something very much needed by RG, RGM and all of his fans. The All Star Race would be nice, getting thru the open, but I am not getting my hopes up. To bad we will not be seeing him at Indy this year. I really hope Tony George does some thinking about this all (starting time) and can work something out with ABC for an earlier starting time of the race and all since ABC/ESPN and Nascar are back together again.

[movindirt]

What if we say RG is going to do horrible? Lucky if he can do better then 40th? I mean there is always this talk of him doing great this time and he always bombs. So if the talk is the he will suck then maybe he will do great? Just a thought....

[RGFan]

What if we say RG is going to do horrible? Lucky if he can do better then 40th? I mean there is always this talk of him doing great this time and he always bombs. So if the talk is the he will suck then maybe he will do great? Just a thought....

:D LOL!!! The only reason I say he should do well is the first few races were all in the old car and they did pretty well.

The new car he is averaging a 33rd place finish rounding up

The old car he is averaging a 23 place finish, including a blown motor at Talladega.

that is 110 points lost, that could have him in 24th place, on the heels of 23rd.

[b-makk]

He was cruisin to a top 10 in the 600 last year until Yeley pulled one of the stupidest moves of all time and blamed it on Mark Martin. That was even stupider!

[dezertranger1600]

This race wont be on Fox right?

[NIKAL]

This weekends All Star race will be on Speed Channel.

[kaw500]

Speed = no HD plus I'll be driving back from Parker at that time and do not have SIRUS in the Funmover. 2 years ago I got married the night of the all star race so I've just let it go for this year as well.

I'm just pissed that Tony G. cannot see that starting INDY next week 1 hour earlier would give him much needed exposure by giving RG and maybe others a chance at the double. I guess that rant is for another thread.

[RGFan]

Speed = no HD plus I'll be driving back from Parker at that time and do not have SIRUS in the Funmover. 2 years ago I got married the night of the all star race so I've just let it go for this year as well.

I'm just pissed that Tony G. cannot see that starting INDY next week 1 hour earlier would give him much needed exposure by giving RG and maybe others a chance at the double. I guess that rant is for another thread.

Its all good, I started it on the Indy 500 thread, but here is good also......Tony George is killing himself, between having Gene Simmons promote the series to all of this Indy crap. If I remember correctly though, I though the time change was a power play by Tony and ABC, remember, ABC/Espn was not with Nascar then. That killed the ratings of the Indy......Indy and Champ Car need to get together and do what is right for opened wheel racing. Can you imagine, 40 plus legit teams going at it for every race....... :eek:

[TRichards]

Well RG just crashed his primary car in the first practice. Welcome to RGM Gene!

[NIKAL]

Well RG just crashed his primary car in the first practice. Welcome to RGM Gene!

Yep! I heard he backed it into the wall. I guess they where going to look at trying to fix it, but then they pulled out the back up car. Chances are they will not get back on the track until they try to qualify. At least this is not a points race! Also if he wreaks this car then they might be really in trouble for next week. Usually if the All Star car works good and does not get wreaked they bring it bacck the next week. If it does then they usually run the back up car. RGM better have another car at the shop ready for next week if needed.

[RGFan]

And the saga continues..........He is not even close on time either, of the open cars only, he is 24th

[b-makk]

What a F'n joke RGM is turning into. Did they not do anything in the offseason? I know RG was doing the Dakar but what about the rest of the team??!!

[RGFan]

Ah well, I am going to work. Last day.....New job in 2 weeks. And the only RG racing I will be watching are cars with Toyo's on them.

[movindirt]

Yep! I heard he backed it into the wall. I guess they where going to look at trying to fix it, but then they pulled out the back up car. Chances are they will not get back on the track until they try to qualify. At least this is not a points race! Also if he wreaks this car then they might be really in trouble for next week. Usually if the All Star car works good and does not get wreaked they bring it bacck the next week. If it does then they usually run the back up car. RGM better have another car at the shop ready for next week if needed.

I didn't see the RG back it into the wall but I'm thinking if they even thought it could be fixed then it must not have been that bad. If RGM can't fix a car in a week then this could be a clue to their troubles. Now if the chassis is jacked then a week would be a push but not impossible.

Did anyone catch MM blowing the motor? Was said to be one of the new R07 engines. Will be interesting to see what went south and why.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

RG to the back up car... He said the back up is just as good. They are setting the cars up really loose because they tighten up at night.

[NIKAL]

AT&T will be on the #31 car starting this weekend! It's funny months ago AT&T was willing to work with Nextel and keep the jack on the hood of the car and just put a small globe on the rear quarter panel. Now that AT&T has won the car will have a huge globe on the hood and a huge globe and the words AT&T across the sides of the rear quarters and bumper cover. The car is still orange but I bet that will change soon also. To see a picture go to Jayski.com.


AT&T Judge: Let AT&T into NASCAR, NASCAR Statement: A federal judge on Friday ruled that AT&T can replace a Cingular logo with its own on a NASCAR race car, following its absorption of the Atlanta-based wireless company. The decision marks an important victory for AT&T. The company sued NASCAR in March, alleging that the racing organization improperly prevented AT&T from putting its brand on the #31 car driven by Jeff Burton.The vehicle currently is branded for the former Cingular Wireless. AT&T took control of Atlanta-based Cingular in late December and is in the process of shedding the Cingular name. NASCAR objected to AT&T's proposal for adding its logo to Burton's stock car. The racing organization cited a deal with Sprint Nextel, which holds the title sponsorship for NASCAR's top racing series. NASCAR said its agreements with Sprint Nextel prohibit the addition of other telecommunications companies as sponsors. Judge Marvin Shoob, of the U.S. District Court in Atlanta, ruled that AT&T would be likely to win the case. He agreed with AT&T's argument that a change in brands is allowed under a grandfather clause that was put in place to protect Cingular, despite Sprint Nextel's deal with NASCAR.(Atlanta Journal-Constitution)

UPDATE: been told the AT&T-branded car is scheduled to make its debut tomorrow at the All-Star Challenge race in Charlotte, NC.,

[DanDan]

POS hits the wall in qualifying. :D

[movindirt]

POS hits the wall in qualifying. :D

that was the best!

[RGFan]

Man, Nascar does not like people going against what they dictate. Richard Childress and AT&T have essentially ***** slapped them in the face. I wonder if we will start seeing Nascar harrass RCR because of this, you know, the typical things, longer trips thru tech, questionable calls going against RCR, a few more debris cautions when an RCR car is leading.........YOu know, the typical things Nascar does to guys they are upset with.

[JRod]

Speed = no HD plus I'll be driving back from Parker at that time and do not have SIRUS in the Funmover. 2 years ago I got married the night of the all star race so I've just let it go for this year as well.

I'm just pissed that Tony G. cannot see that starting INDY next week 1 hour earlier would give him much needed exposure by giving RG and maybe others a chance at the double. I guess that rant is for another thread.

I would gladly give up watching the Nextel All-Star Circu$ to be in Parker for the weekend- Hope you had a good time. Where do you stay when you go?

[Hemp]

pos blew up his motor because he shifted from 3rd into 2nd when he tried to shift it into 4th. Pure driver error right there

[RGFan]

I should not have even bothered watching.......16th place finish in the open.....

[JRod]

Kenny Wallace is now officially Speed TVs biT@#- Not even a real fan vote

[Hemp]

better than when truex won because junior asked his fans to vote him in

[erikh]

i was thinking pos would get "voted" in. how lame would that have been?

erik

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Well time to get on that plane and get out to Cali for some Pro2 butt whip'n!

[spalind]

I should not have even bothered watching.......16th place finish in the open.....

What position did he start?

[9Iron]

The #70 looked good on a long run, do they have something for Hendrix?

[JRod]

What position did he start?

Started 25th and somehow avoided being the victim of whatever bullseye was on his back...

[RGFan]

8 cars or something crashed out

[RGFan]

The #70 looked good on a long run, do they have something for Hendrix?

THey are with Haas, essentially a Hendrick satelite team, they get hendrick engines and tech support.

[RGFan]

I am sorry, but Kenny Wallace had quite the unfair advantage............He only gets to cohost 2 tv shows every week on speed and put his cause out in front of the fans every single weekend.

[JRod]

8 cars or something crashed out

Yeah, he started 25th and finished 16th, but his gained spots were attrition/wreck avoidance, not a fast car passing other people. Hopefully tonight was a good warm-up for RG and Gene Nead to learn how to communicate in a race.

[movindirt]

What was up with Boris Said? Was that just his way of getting on TV and off the track all at once?

[RGFan]

I think he was trying to anticipate the move of the car that crashed and anticipated wrong.....Did you guys catch Robby's close call, not like it would have mattered, he ran horribly, but he avoided a hit by inches

[JRod]

It seemed like every replay of every wreck, in that first segment, showed RG missing by inches- It was like he had a huge bullseye painted on his car.

[JRod]

Alright, I need some positive fengsui or whatever, so here is the best picture I can paint through my admittedly rose colored glasses:


RG went and beat the crap out of a truck over the weekend running CORR and then fixed it and got some frustration worked out.

Now he is prerunning in Mexico as we speak and is really getting his confidence built up while his new CC is working with Greg Erwin using the info from last weekend to have a kick @$$ car this weekend and bring home a top 15, thus ending the skid.

This momentum, along with a great Busch finish and sponsor announcements are going to make this the weekend that all the fans, fairweathered and faithful, will look back on at the end of the year as the weekend that RG made his charge back into the top 20.

True or not, I feel better now... If ignorance is bliss, please don't tell me I'm wrong. HAHAHA.

[RGFan]

I pray that you are right!!!! Go RGM, make something happen

[kaw500]

I pray that you are right!!!! Go RGM, make something happen

I 2nd that, just bought tickets and campsite for Infenion and I don't want to fly #7 flags on the motorhome for a team outside the top 35. A top 25 in the 600 would go along way at this point in the season.

Keeping the faith!

[RGFan]

I 2nd that, just bought tickets and campsite for Infenion and I don't want to fly #7 flags on the motorhome for a team outside the top 35. A top 25 in the 600 would go along way at this point in the season.

Keeping the faith!

I am praying for a top 25 at this point, he may be able to get that thru attrition

[movindirt]

What is up with the slider across the top? I just got in and flip on the Speed Channel, starting watching the slider to see how RG is doing. They have him listed as 35th but as #55??? And 37th fastest is M. Wallace listed as #7???? WTF????

During the all star race they had one of the Busch brothers (I think Kurt) listed in 2nd place several laps after they wrecked out. Who the heck is running that part of the show? If it is some of the kids from the Victory Junction Camp then all is good but other wise I think someone needs to get fired.

[RGFan]

Robby's number in Busch is 55, Mike Wallace is racing the Geico #7 car this season full time in Busch. Robby's Busch car has always been 55 in Busch with a few exceptions when he was able to borrow the #7.. Hope that clears things up

[movindirt]

Yeah I just figured out it was Busch practice and not CUP. To many damn drivers in the same looking car in both. LOL...

[RGFan]

Well, practice is getting ready to start, lets see how things go..........

[kaw500]

Well, practice is getting ready to start, lets see how things go..........

Keep us up to date, thanks

[RGFan]

33rd so far

[RGFan]

down to 40th

[RGFan]

check that, the Fox Tracker is on the fritz

[RGFan]

34th on speed

[NIKAL]

I heard on Sirius this morning that one of the guys talked to Robby and he was really hoping for cooler weather as the hot weather makes the cars really loose before the sun goes down. And I heard it was in the 80's today so it was hotter then most drivers would like. RG was a 1/2 second of the leaders in first practice. I'm thinking that RG might be taking it a little easy as he might be a little gun shy as he backed one into the fence last week in practice. And being that I would assume this was the primary car for this race he does not want to have to go to a back up again. There are a few good teams back there too #24, #20, #99. Those cars ran good last weekend. I bet he will be ok tonight in qualifying, and he does go out 44th so that should also help.

On a side note Toyota was suppose to have a new power curve in there motors for this race and wase'nt Toyota building a car for MWR for this race? After first practice MWR cars were 44th David, 45th DJ and 46th POS. Other Toyota teams are 19th AJ, 24th Blaney, 29th Vickers and 38th Mayfield. So MWR are still the slowest Toyota's. Then again they could be taking it easy to as they dont want to wreck any cars too.

[dezertranger1600]

i know this is an off topic question,but when is robby scheduled to race Busch again?

[NIKAL]

i know this is an off topic question,but when is robby scheduled to race Busch again?

This weekend he is running his #55 Motorola/Verizon Busch car.

[dezertranger1600]

cool...#55 of all numbers...lol

[RGFan]

I heard on Sirius this morning that one of the guys talked to Robby and he was really hoping for cooler weather as the hot weather makes the cars really loose before the sun goes down. And I heard it was in the 80's today so it was hotter then most drivers would like. RG was a 1/2 second of the leaders in first practice. I'm thinking that RG might be taking it a little easy as he might be a little gun shy as he backed one into the fence last week in practice. And being that I would assume this was the primary car for this race he does not want to have to go to a back up again. There are a few good teams back there too #24, #20, #99. Those cars ran good last weekend. I bet he will be ok tonight in qualifying, and he does go out 44th so that should also help.

On a side note Toyota was suppose to have a new power curve in there motors for this race and wase'nt Toyota building a car for MWR for this race? After first practice MWR cars were 44th David, 45th DJ and 46th POS. Other Toyota teams are 19th AJ, 24th Blaney, 29th Vickers and 38th Mayfield. So MWR are still the slowest Toyota's. Then again they could be taking it easy to as they dont want to wreck any cars too.

POS wrecked at the end of practice and RG was 7/10ths off of the pace until the last minutes, more than likely a qualifying run got them to 5/10ths

[RGFan]

POS just wadded it up bad in qualifying....He is not hurt........Ah, he got a pretty decent lap on lap 1..........He does not have a backup, they already crashed the first car

[RGFan]

Ah, he 's out....sweet!!!

[RGFan]

Horrible qualifying yet again for RG.......34th and falling

[spalind]

Horrible qualifying yet again for RG.......34th and falling

Yeah, but think of it this way...with the race being 600 miles long there's plenty of time for RG to use his "OK, we'll go a few laps down but keep running and make up spots in the standings through attrition" strategy....:confused:

[RGFan]

Yeah, but think of it this way...with the race being 600 miles long there's plenty of time for RG to use his "OK, we'll go a few laps down but keep running and make up spots in the standings through attrition" strategy....:confused:

You know what really sucks........Barring any accident, that is exactly what will happen

[spalind]

You know what really sucks........Barring any accident, that is exactly what will happen

As much as I love RG I'm not sure I can handle watching him go round and round for like 5 hours hoping each time the standings ticker gets to like 38 that he's moved up a single spot...Its gotten to be such a joke even my wife is in on it...she'll come in the room...look at the ticker on the TV and go...."Oh, the ticker is still on the top ten...I'll come back in 15 minutes to see where Robby is..."

[RGFan]

I think our wive's are sisters........I keep hearing "when are you going to pick another driver, Robby is horrible".

[spalind]

I think our wive's are sisters........I keep hearing "when are you going to pick another driver" Robby is horrible

I hear the EXACT same thing....I keep telling her "Someday!!! Someday he'll win and THEN you'll wish you didn't make fun of me!!":D

[RGFan]

They just do not get it....

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Mike Waltrip is sooo screwed! Two cars toast! Gawd that guy sucks!

[kaw500]

At Least RG drove his way in, all be it 35th. Not having to use owners points, be it small, is a tiny bit positive. I'm just grasping now, I'm still in denial.

Just when you think MIKEE is at bottom he finds a way to dig a deeper hole.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Yepp totaled two today!

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2007/news/headlines/cup/05/24/mwaltrip.tnorris.lowes/waltrip.193.jpg

[RGFan]

Man, RG is sucking nuts right now, but POS.....I do not think he could tie his own shoes correctly right now

[spalind]

Man, RG is sucking nuts right now, but POS.....I do not think he could tie his own shoes correctly right now

When WAS the last time MW actually raced his car?? NAPA has to be fuming....I wouldn't be surprised to see them pull the sponsorship this week...it has just gone on too long with no sign of a turn around....

[woundedyak]

The crappy thing is DJ qualified way ahead of Robby! I know,It's just qualifing and it's going to be a long race. I hope he doesn't gain positions by cars wrecking out. Anyways,good weekend for Pensky. On the poll for the cup race and Indy 500. I will be at the track for carb day.Everyone have a great weekend!

[RGFan]

The crappy thing is DJ qualified way ahead of Robby! I know,It's just qualifing and it's going to be a long race. I hope he doesn't gain positions by cars wrecking out. Anyways,good weekend for Pensky. On the poll for the cup race and Indy 500. I will be at the track for carb day.Everyone have a great weekend!


Have a blast at Carb Day. Remember, you are supposed to give Tony George a piece of my mind:D

[RGFan]

Was RGM supposed to make some announcements this weekend or am I just smoking crack

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Was RGM supposed to make some announcements this weekend or am I just smoking crack


I think the only thing they were to have done by now was the shop....

[RGFan]

I do not know for sure, but when they were doing that tv show a couple of weeks ago on Speed Channel, it looked like they were not even done with the grading yet.....

[FlyHiFlyLo]

I do not know for sure, but when they were doing that tv show a couple of weeks ago on Speed Channel, it looked like they were not even done with the grading yet.....

Permits etc... The actual structure only takes 2 months

[woundedyak]

Speaking of building Permits. How is the compound coming along Fly?

[RGFan]

Hey, how was Carb day???Did you see our boy Tony George:D

[woundedyak]

Hey, how was Carb day???Did you see our boy Tony George:D

lol,I didn't see Tony. This year was the best Carb day yet. Last year was boring as hell and there wasn't anyone thier. This year was packed. We got to the track about 10:30am and there was already 35,000 druckin' necks out and about. The Indy prolites had a good,clean race.Kid rock put on a good show. Are group kept Budwieser in business for another week! All and all,it was a an awsome day!

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Speaking of building Permits. How is the compound coming along Fly?


LOL... Land is bought and paid for, all easements are done and recorded (ingress, edison, waterworks) All the pipeline engineering is done and in permitting, Trusses are engineered, Pre engineered floor structure for garage #1 is done (Jack- RDC "Desertsport"). Geo/soils testing, septic perc done. Fire department has reviewed and gave the thumbs up. Local town council has reviewed and approved. Civil engineered grading plan is done and submitted for permit. Structural engineering on the three structures is to be done next week. Then I submit the plans to building and safety then wait 3-6 months more. I would say I will be breaking ground in 4-7 months.

[JRod]

Bowyer totaled the RCR machine...oops.

[JRod]

I thought they were going to dump HH/Busch qualifying to run the NCTS race, but looks like they are only announcing that there will be no Truck race for now...hopefully they get back to Charlotte soon.

[JRod]

Rudd and Gilliland are both looking fast(er)- They said the 88 just spent a bunch of time on a "KD Rig"- Sure would be nice if RG was in on that info...

[JRod]

RG just got some TV time- JBBlack paint scheme always looks good- The orange Cingular car with the AT&T logo looks ugly.

The 7 car doesn't seem to be sucked down to the track like you typically see, maybe that is the .5 second interval between him and the fastest car.

[RGFan]

RG, 2 mph off of the pace average..........30th for practice........I hope he has a good run for tonight, I have hope for that, as for tomorrow...........I can not wait for the baja 500

[JRod]

Practice is over- RG ran a lot of laps in practice, hopefully this motor is built to go the distance considering HH is still this afternoon and 600 miles tomorrow.

[JRod]

That's probably the best interview I have ever seen. Just now on Speed, Dilner was interviewing JJ Yeley and he started going off about Coke this, coke that, mycokerewards etc. Dilner interrupted him by saying, "Okay Michael Waltrip." Then JJ Yeley got all butt-hurt and said, "Two differences, I am short and I am in the show."

Awesome.

[JRod]

I don't have very many technologically advanced toys, but I will see if I can get a link to the video up here somehow, someway...

[FlyHiFlyLo]

That's was funny as hell!

[JRod]

for those who missed it- Stupid cell phone isn't great quality and I had to record it in two clips, but it's still great:

Clip #1

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=66xcyns

Clip #2

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=6hhq4v5

[woundedyak]

LOL... Land is bought and paid for, all easements are done and recorded (ingress, edison, waterworks) All the pipeline engineering is done and in permitting, Trusses are engineered, Pre engineered floor structure for garage #1 is done (Jack- RDC "Desertsport"). Geo/soils testing, septic perc done. Fire department has reviewed and gave the thumbs up. Local town council has reviewed and approved. Civil engineered grading plan is done and submitted for permit. Structural engineering on the three structures is to be done next week. Then I submit the plans to building and safety then wait 3-6 months more. I would say I will be breaking ground in 4-7 months.


Geeeezzzzzus Fly. Are you building a Nucular Bunker or a house? Sounds like it's going to be a pretty sweet palace when you are done. Keep me up to date if you don't mind! When you start getting closer to making decisions about appliances(kitchen,mini bars,laundry,Water purification,ect...ect...) I have a couple distributors out that way who love putting new product in bad @ss homes and using them for catalogs.Maybe we can make something happen.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Geeeezzzzzus Fly. Are you building a Nucular Bunker or a house? Sounds like it's going to be a pretty sweet palace when you are done. Keep me up to date if you don't mind! When you start getting closer to making decisions about appliances(kitchen,mini bars,laundry,Water purification,ect...ect...) I have a couple distributors out that way who love putting new product in bad @ss homes and using them for catalogs.Maybe we can make something happen.

Being the cheap bastard that I am.... I will surly keep you in the loop.

[RGFan]

I swear, Robby was next up for qualifying and they pull qualifying for the stupid truck race, a race that is going to get rained out.

[RGFan]

He qualified 18th with 2 more to go, he is in.....sweet

[JRod]

I'm not a huge Kenseth fan, but they screwed him too- You win a pole, you expect more than a "This is what Kenseth's car looks like, he got the pole- We're going to go watch caution laps in the midwest..."

Freakin fox. means no more practice coverage today on Speed I am guessing.

The silver lining has to be that he went out and Q'd into a respectable spot with his Busch car in what is basically a 3/4 Cup field.

[JRod]

And, most of the laps they pulled qualifying for was to show the caution laps for the truck race... dumb.

[RGFan]

Robby was like 36th in practice, meanwhile...Greg Biffle was second, so much for the reject crew chief theory Fly..........RGM is not doing to hot in the Busch race either.

[RGFan]

My goodness....75 laps to go, 33rd........This is just sad. They can not even keep up with the "whats there names" in Busch. Crash already......put the damned team out of their misery. I bet I can predict the Mondy race report and what it will say.....The Verizon Ford Fusion began the day with a very loose handling condition. As they day progressed to night, the car became to tight and very difficult for Robby to drive. Towards the end of the race, the #55 Fusion was running laps competetive with the race leader...We will get them next time..... I am turning off the tv and am going to go read a book.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Robby was like 36th in practice, meanwhile...Greg Biffle was second, so much for the reject crew chief theory Fly..........RGM is not doing to hot in the Busch race either.


It does when RG's crew chief for the Busch car is GREG ERWIN!

[FlyHiFlyLo]

My goodness....75 laps to go, 33rd........This is just sad. They can not even keep up with the "whats there names" in Busch. Crash already......put the damned team out of their misery. I bet I can predict the Mondy race report and what it will say.....The Verizon Ford Fusion began the day with a very loose handling condition. As they day progressed to night, the car became to tight and very difficult for Robby to drive. Towards the end of the race, the #55 Fusion was running laps competetive with the race leader...We will get them next time..... I am turning off the tv and am going to go read a book.


Maybe Gene Nead, Needed to CC the Busch car.

[RGFan]

It does when RG's crew chief for the Busch car is GREG ERWIN!

THese were the Cup cars Fly....Greg Erwin has been jumping back and fourth all weekend in between the 16 Cup car and the 55 Busch Car

[NicksTrix]

didn't get much tv time tonight running towards the back most the race.

[RGFan]

didn't get much tv time tonight running towards the back most the race.

Yeah.........What can you say other than they need some more money, more engineers, more staff, more tools, a couple of more teams under the same roof, alot more testing and more time.....which all leads back to more money

[NicksTrix]

Yeah.........What can you say other than they need some more money, more engineers, more staff, more tools, a couple of more teams under the same roof, alot more testing and more time.....which all leads back to more money


stanton barrett was in front of him at the end. whats that saying?

stanton had a really good night finishing 29th after starting 19th. ;)

[RGFan]

This is just my opinion, and you all have heard me a hundred times, but he should really go race in Cup for a contender, that's if they would even hire him. If he wants to run a team with his name on it, have a team, hell have several teams in Busch and the truck series like his buddy Kevin Harvick........We are in year 3 now and they are just limping around. Yes there are multiple reasons, but reasons do not pay the bills or get more sponsorship for more cars let alone their own....Performance does and besides for that little stretch last year, it just has not been even close. And now Greg Erwin, the man who helped orchestrate that nice little run is officially gone to Roush. First Mike Beam sucked, he is now at Roush doing very well in the truck series, now Greg Erwin sucks.... he is on the box for the fricken 16 team, who is 12th in points starting tonight. What about John Story.......Maybe they are just seeing the writing on the wall before RG is, I do not know, but there has been a hell of alot of talent that has left RGM for one reason or another, and they are all with big budget teams, doing well. THis is just an outsider speaking, a fan, but when people leave one job for another, these are the factors usually involved.....THey either want more money, want a promotion or they are just not happy. Well, the 3 I just listed did not get promotions, if anything they were lateral moves or actually demotions, but they went to work for bigger teams with bigger staffs and bigger budgets.......That tells alot.....

[NicksTrix]

mike beam? he never worked for rg that i recall.

[RGFan]

mike beam? he never worked for rg that i recall.

Man I must be on crack or something...........SOrry about that...Bob Temple, he was the crew chief. Temple is the Team manager over at Howard-Boss Motorsports, one of the premiere Rolex Prototype Teams.....I had a major brainfart.

[RGFan]

Anyways, my point was, there has been alot of talent that has walked into RGM's door only to walk right back out a short time later. ALot of people seem to be treating this as a slump, not a big deal........I think it is alot more than a slump, I see a ship that is sinking. The performance itself is just a symptom of what seems to be going on behind the scenes. John Story leaving, slashing the marketing staff, loosing major sponsorship, Greg Erwin leaving, loosing support staff and then the performance across the board, all of this within several months time.........Racing aside, from a business standpoint, which I do have knowledge in, this would send 4 great big red flags to me as a potential investor.

[NicksTrix]

i just met with bob the other day. he's part owner in a small machine shop right next to our shop. he put in a bid on a couple of my machined parts for the Nick's Trix parts line. not sure he's still doing the rolex series gig. i think he spends his day running a turning center.

no worrries on the brain fart. happens all the time..just part of life and getting old ;)

[kaw500]

OK time for 600 miles, long day continues.

[REEVESRacing]

OK time for 600 miles, long day continues.

:D cool!!!

[kaw500]

:D cool!!!

Even cooler with CORR earlier today and Monaco replay at 4:00 on speed.

[kaw500]

Tight Tight Tight Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[kaw500]

40 laps and 1 lap down SUCKS

[REEVESRacing]

yep...just went 1 down, looking for debris caution re turn 4?
RG is lucky dog...:rolleyes:

[RGFan]

here we go again.........How about two of RG's former crew chiefs tag teaming on top of the box for Biffle, he is making a nice climb so far....Going back to Indy, more of a race over there

[kaw500]

WOW got thru that. The CC is a confident sounding gentlemen.

[kaw500]

here we go again.........How about two of RG's former crew chiefs tag teaming on top of the box for Biffle, he is making a nice climb so far....Going back to Indy, more of a race over there

Rain coming at INDY thay are hauling A

[kaw500]

RG nice job not hitting a thing. big wrecks early. JG OUCH!!

[kaw500]

RG will get a lucky dog before darkness falls

And maybe not 87 laps in, he's 30th 3rd car 1 lap down.

And then lap 90 2 laps down had to pit for a right front flat.

Enough boob tube (too many left turns) I'm taking the dog for a walk

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Time to qualify up front from now on .... Screw this race setup practice crap... RG don't know the diff..

[RGFan]

THEY ABSOLUTELY SUCK!!!!!!! Stayed out trying to get a lap back, I think he has been passed by 20 cars in 2 laps, they are not even close. I feel embarased for them....F this, He needs to get out of the way before they start bashing him again for being "Crash Gordon". I am sorry, but if any of you think he needs to be running his own team at this point.......This is not the Robby Gordon I have been a fan of for 15 years.

[RGFan]

If I was the one who won the Jim Beam 1100 promotion, I would have said screw Charlotte, I want to stay at Indy for the victory party

[JRod]

So, is 6 laps down a deficit that can be made up at this track? The bleeding seems to have stopped and his times are the same or faster than the rest of the field (other than the top 10)...

On a sidenote, RGFan, I like your location- SoCal, AZ. You really are in east LA all the way out there. I live in Gilbert, but have training out in Tolleson- and that's only half way to where you're at...it's crazy.

[JRod]

Almost into 27th after that masterful work by the 99 taking his teammate and B Elliott out...

[kaw500]

Almost into 27th after that masterful work by the 99 taking his teammate and B Elliott out...

Lap 230 27th slowly making his way to a top 25 LOL. I think it's time to strart the bar-B-Que. LONGGGGGGGGGGG Race:)

[JRod]

Long Race? 3.5 hours into a race and ONly 210 miles to go!... I am out of propane, so maybe I'll skip the BBQ and go straight to the beer...

[kaw500]

Long Race? 3.5 hours into a race and ONly 210 miles to go!... I am out of propane, so maybe I'll skip the BBQ and go straight to the beer...

You got beer for that many miles?:D

Up to 26th the race lenth is playing into our hands.

It took a while but they seem to have the 7 working OK under the lights.

[JRod]

You got beer for that many miles?:D

Up to 26th the race lenth is playing into our hands.

It took a while but they seem to have the 7 working OK under the lights.

I have that much beer if I pace myself, but don't think I'll use it all...I don't want to sleep/be sick for the last day of a 3 day weekend!

More cars blowing up- The save by Mayfield was sweet, even if he is an idiot...

[RGFan]

So, is 6 laps down a deficit that can be made up at this track? The bleeding seems to have stopped and his times are the same or faster than the rest of the field (other than the top 10)...

On a sidenote, RGFan, I like your location- SoCal, AZ. You really are in east LA all the way out there. I live in Gilbert, but have training out in Tolleson- and that's only half way to where you're at...it's crazy.

I have been spending about 50% of my time in either OC or Temecula and essentially weekends in AZ. It gets better, I will be spending essentially the next 3 months in Wisconsin, enough time to file for transient resident status in Wisconisn......I am thinking we will be moving back to Cali in the next year or so permanently. The summers out here suck. So would that put me in Colorado, since it is in between

[kaw500]

100 laps to go RG in 25th soon to be 24th with another Busch (#2) having issues. This is almost comical he's stays out of trouble with this many laps left a top 20 is not that big a stretch.

[RGFan]

It is absolutely comical....I hope they do not get a big head from the performance......THey were very lucky half of the field has crashed out

[RGFan]

Do you know what has suprised me though, it looks like Toyota is finally starting to wake up. Sounds like they did some work on the top end of the motors, they are getting some more mid range power now, seems like they are coming to life. The finishes will not show it, but Vickers was FAST and Mayfield looked like he had some ponies to play with as well. MWR however, their sacks are still dragging in the mud.

[Mary Kay]

I have been spending about 50% of my time in either OC or Temecula and essentially weekends in AZ. It gets better, I will be spending essentially the next 3 months in Wisconsin, enough time to file for transient resident status in Wisconisn......I am thinking we will be moving back to Cali in the next year or so permanently. The summers out here suck. So would that put me in Colorado, since it is in between

Why Wisconsin?

[movindirt]

Mayfield out RG picks up one more!

[J_Edgar]

Congrats Casey Mears!

[BAJACATDIESEL]

Nice to see casey win ... hate he drives for A crook like Hendrick

[RGFan]

How about Kyle Petty, that was awesome, 3rd place. Kudos to RGm for dodging a major bullet. Not many days where you can be slow as snot for half of the race, get 6 laps down and finish in the top 25. They still have a whole lot of work to do and have alot of catching up to do, but they did not give up.

[spalind]

Yup...at this point I will take the 22nd place finish...gives him a bit of breathing room inside the top 35 and is his best finish in two months...

[RGFan]

yeah, but he fell down a spot to 33rd, 150 and change out of 36th, 100 give or take out of 24th

[RGFan]

Why Wisconsin?

Starting a new job, they are based out of Mequon, 3 months to get up to speed, be home on the weekends.

[kaw500]

Like the man said it feels more like a memorial day race weekend with a Mears winning. His uncle was my idol and his dad was balls out in the desert.

Big props for Kyle Petty and Vickers, I'll bet BV's arms feel like falling off.

RGM at least stoped the major flow of blood the new CC seemed to take control and instead of asking if a change he had in mind was OK with RG or even asking the owners opinion he decideed on the change and made it. The #7 was good 2nd half of the race. Next week will be a better gauge if they are taking baby steps in the right direction.

Long day, good racing, great ribs. Out.

[kaw500]

yeah, but he fell down a spot to 33rd, 150 and change out of 36th, 100 give or take out of 24th

Is that owners points? I calculated that he held his postion, 32nd in owners standings (I'm probably off) and 31st in driver points.

[RGFan]

That is as per Nascar driver standings...owners standings pending

[kaw500]

OOPS missed the refresh I think he'll drop a spot as well in owners standings.
I guess it could have been worse. Next couple of weeks is crunch time for that outfit.

[JRod]

That hurts- Dodge a bullet and feel like you've got a moral victory- only to lose a spot in the standings anyway...

Got to have a top 20 or better next week I would think- maybe even lead a lap to get back inside the top 30.

[JRod]

What scares me is that you can have this bad of a night and still be the 4th best Ford at the finish- Perhaps it's partially RG and partially FORD SUCKING this year- and that is coming from a Ford guy... I dunno.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

If RG can just hold points on at Dover, Pocono and MIS till Sonoma he should be in 24after that. For Pocono and MIS I hope they have a track bar bracket located with more adjustment availiable.

[NicksTrix]

ricky ran well tonight. it looks like the ryr guys finally found a combination that works with this flinstone tire they've struggled wiht all year. RR was fast all weekend. i'm happy for those guys.
ragan ran well until he wrecked i think i saw, too early to say with biffle & the 38. 21 looked ok at times. didn't see what took him out. remember it's only 9 guys against a bunch of chevy's.

looks like toyota has some work to do with their new package. change one thing and it affects a number of others. we see it all the time.

[JRod]

Misread the results- He was right in the middle of the pack of relatively few Fords compared to the rest of the field...

[Ryno]

RG did good, got lucky, and outlasted the other 1/2 of the field. 22nd good finish. Keyword....FINISH. If he doesn't see Ford being a mistake already, he will soon. Wait until sonoma, the chevy boys ALWAYS run good there. If RG can stay top 35 points he'll be doing alot better than many others.

Good for Casey Mears. Another offroad kid, and he needed a confidence booster in a major way. Anybody want to get a backhoe and go dig up Hendrick's $$$$ tree?

[RGFan]

I dont know about the whole Sonoma thing.......He has not had the greatest luck there the last few years, actually since the win really. Now add it is a COT race, and the fact that there are more COT races in between, which they have been absolutely horrible at. Roush said Hendrick has over 100 test days in the COT........ANd we wonder why they are so dominant. Well, Roush just hired a 6 man test team and purchased a tractor/trailer to pull around their test car to non-sanctioned race tracks (my idea for RG:D ) That is what I feel RG needs to do to help get up to speed in the COT. If it is a money issue, atleast partner up with somebody and do the same. THey need info on this thing in a bad way. Now, my question is, does it even matter who you team up with manufacturer wise, other than different stickers, the bodies on the COT's are the same. I guess as long as the chassis are the same, it would not matter......I am sure that would upset Ford if they built a testing alliance with a non Ford team......It all costs money

[RGFan]

ricky ran well tonight. it looks like the ryr guys finally found a combination that works with this flinstone tire they've struggled wiht all year. RR was fast all weekend. i'm happy for those guys.
ragan ran well until he wrecked i think i saw, too early to say with biffle & the 38. 21 looked ok at times. didn't see what took him out. remember it's only 9 guys against a bunch of chevy's.

looks like toyota has some work to do with their new package. change one thing and it affects a number of others. we see it all the time.

I thought Toyota did a great job compared to where they have been in this past year.....THis was a 600 mile race, 2 toyotas, 1 Dodge and a Chevy blew up, which is not uncommon at this race. The key IMO was that Toyota was actually competetive, actually the teams were other than POS Racing. Brian Vickers got a top 5 with no power steering for half of the race. Jeremy Mayfield was in the top 10 until he blew up with 2 laps to go, and Dale Jarrets was more than likely from reverse rotation of the motor from when he spun out. THere are probably some bugs to work out as this was the first race with the new top end configuration, but I think they are in the ball park, that is just me.

[RGFan]

Well, atleast RG should have a good run at Baja, I wish he was running the H3 just so he could put a woopin to the VW's.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

The thing with Sonoma is, it really doesn't matter if you are 20 HP down or don't have a perfect car... Track position, talent and no mistakes are what win it. RG could easily win it... or lose it.

[JRod]

Well, atleast RG should have a good run at Baja, I wish he was running the H3 just so he could put a woopin to the VW's.

There is a video floating around on the board at youtube that RG and Mark Miller are working out a wager for Rob to enter his H3 with his sisters driving...wonder if it will happen.:D

[RGFan]

The thing with Sonoma is, it really doesn't matter if you are 20 HP down or don't have a perfect car... Track position, talent and no mistakes are what win it. RG could easily win it... or lose it.

YOu forgot luck FLy, RG has just had bad luck over there the last few years. He is always one of if not the fastest. He has had a shifter go bad, a bad tranny, a bad pit stop and I forgot what else......He has never been the problem at a road course.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

There is a video floating around on the board at youtube that RG and Mark Miller are working out a wager for Rob to enter his H3 with his sisters driving...wonder if it will happen.:D

Baja Bob is running it.

[JRod]

Baja Bob is running it.

Sweet- He will kick some serious arse I am sure.

[RGFan]

Can you imagine Robby and his dad leaning against the hood of the H3, parked to the side of the finish line, drinking a cold Monster waiting for the Touregs...........That would be a sweet pic......I know the Toureg is fast, but Robby is the one that has driven all of them...Miller took that dig that the H3 was fast for a couple of days, while the Toureg was fast for 13 days. Robby could have stayed with VW, they invited him back . My question is would Miller still be with VW if Robby had not turned them down:D ....... Robby could have stayed with VW and yet he chose to go on his own. He must feel that he can do it better.

[RGFan]

OK, this topic belongs elsewhere.......On to Dover

[desertracer]

Baja Bob is running it.

YouTube - PistolVision interviews Robby Gordon at Mike's Sky Ranch

Pistol vision video at Mike's Sky Ranch talking about running the hummer...

[FlyHiFlyLo]

YOu forgot luck FLy, RG has just had bad luck over there the last few years. He is always one of if not the fastest. He has had a shifter go bad, a bad tranny, a bad pit stop and I forgot what else......He has never been the problem at a road course.

Don't forget the wheel falling off... Keven Harvick ramming him...

The cycle is about to come full circle.


This year bad luck is not the fear for me... Jauntoya is...

[michael_loomis]

Robby could have stayed with VW and yet he chose to go on his own. He must feel that he can do it better.


Hmm.. he felt the same thing about Childress too..

man I wish RG still had chevy power plants.. there just so damned dominant..

[RGFan]

Don't forget the wheel falling off... Keven Harvick ramming him...

The cycle is about to come full circle.


This year bad luck is not the fear for me... Jauntoya is...

This may be arrogant on my part, but I think that RG will put it to him......Lets see what JM does without traction control and those big/soft Michelins. I think pitching a big trophy truck around corners in the dirt at 80 mph is alot more similar to a stock car on a road course than a 60 million state of the art race car that is heavily aided by computers. If RGM can get a decent setup under the COT for the race, I think RG will shine, barring any bad luck. A few things that people (media)just forget or do not want to remember.....RG was offered with a ride in F1, he turned them down........He is every bit as talented as any of those guys.... The racers in F1 are talented, no doubt, but just look at some of the drivers who were nothing 3 years ago, I mean nothing and are kicking *** now......Vise versa, look at some of the drivers who kicked butt 3 years ago and now are also racers.....Technology is key over there, like anywhere else and the best equipment wins, not the best driver, like here as well. I really believe with all of my heart that RG, Tony, JG could race over there and be competetive with good equipment. Because of that, while JM can drive, He is not on another level or anything, like the media makes him out to be.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Granted there was no Cup racers there... But he did really good in Mexico.

[RGFan]

Hmm.. he felt the same thing about Childress too..

man I wish RG still had chevy power plants.. there just so damned dominant..


Do not mark this as fact, but I think the RCR deal was more of RG wanting to race Dakar, something RC was not for at all, and RC thought that RG racing Indy was starting to becoming a distraction. RG has always wanted to do what he wanted to do, and does not like being told what he can and can not do. Unfortunately, I think he may end up hurting his legacy in a big way by doing things the way he has.

[spalind]

Hmm.. he felt the same thing about Childress too..

man I wish RG still had chevy power plants.. there just so damned dominant..

Chevy's aren't dominant...Hendrick is...you really have to get over your love of chevy stuff and look at things from an unbiased perspective...and of course Chevy is going to win most of the races in NASCAR...like 75% of the cars/engines are chevy...its like saying a Ford won a BITD race....Well, duh?!?!

[RGFan]

Granted there was no Cup racers there... But he did really good in Mexico.

You are right, he did, but I am sorry, Carl Edwards or Denny hamlin are not Tony Stewart and Robby Gordon. To be honest, I think that Jeff Gordon has a pretty big handicap with running Hendrick equipment. I guarantee you, you could put the 4 of these guys in lawn tractors and RG would probably win. I look for RG or Tony for the win, as long as RGM can get the COT dialed in and we will know that come qualifying.

[AllwaysRcn]

This year bad luck is not the fear for me... Jauntoya is...

Juan Problem Montoya

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Juan Problem Montoya

that's a good one!

[9Iron]

Juan Problem Montoya

Like they say...,
"Hit the pace car!"