TT'S PRIMM TOP TIPS -- Rev C

[El Chinero]

The truth often hurts ...

[RACE_A_HOLIC]

Thanks T. I allways get akick from your toptips. Made my day Thanks again for taking the time.

[M_R_Fast]

Tony T ruined it for Me !!

[Kritter]

finally the real top tips posted.

[chadrag2]

Good Top list, but I think Ryan Arciero and Bob Shepard should have a bit better odds. Look for them to do well. Remember, Bob won from almost the last Trophy Truck starting position last year. He has also won it in a Pro Truck. They should run Fast.

Brian Collins also knows the course, and more importantly knows how to run fast at Primm. Primm always comes down to prep and patience. We all know there are a lot of guys that can run fast, but not that many that can run fast an entire race, and keep it together.

No doubt Rob and B.J. will battle. Again, patience and prep we prevail.

Should be agood race.

[Chase 2]

Just in time to place my bets! I like that Dave Caspino is getting El Chinero love, but it screws up the odds for me. Yeah Tony, you ruined it for me too!!!

[Chase 2]

Good Top list, but I think Ryan Arciero and Bob Shepard should have a bit better odds. Look for them to do well. Remember, Bob won from almost the last Trophy Truck starting position last year. He has also won it in a Pro Truck. They should run Fast.

Brian Collins also knows the course, and more importantly knows how to run fast at Primm. Primm always comes down to prep and patience. We all know there are a lot of guys that can run fast, but not that many that can run fast an entire race, and keep it together.

No doubt Rob and B.J. will battle. Again, patience and prep we prevail.

Should be agood race.

I agree, and I think that statistically, its time for the pendulum to swing the other way. Its also time for Bob & Ryan's gremlins to be behind them. They are waaaaay over due for a win.

[bcampbell04]

i disagree. bj richardson will be very patient this race. still going to flying though.

[Kritter]

I hear Eugenio may have a hired gun...

[bcampbell04]

I hear Eugenio may have a hired gun...

could it be the same driver also rumored that he has for the 1600 shootout race???

[nimrod]

Okay, same deal as last time. Could someone please post in Adobe or something. I and my computer are lamo's and we do not have excel...........I have no idea how bad the truth hurts yet......

[Ian Brock]

I agree, and I think that statistically, its time for the pendulum to swing the other way. Its also time for Bob & Ryan's gremlins to be behind them. They are waaaaay over due for a win.Waaaaaay!

[Desert_Roller]

Try it as a PDF

[Tyler7]

Well some of those Top Tips are pretty interesting, But maybe we should factor there performances in the past due to the weather, some people and rain are just like oil and rain just dont mix!! but well see good luck to all!!

[barry bk]

can some one just post the titps on here pls.thank you

[Tyler7]

2007 SCORE PRIMM 300 Revision "C"

TROPHY-TRUCK (29) Only five can win
1 16 Cameron Steele How many tires per lap?5 to 1
2 85 Todd Wyllie DARK HORSE 4 to 1
3 99 Nick Baldwin Little seat time 5 to 1
4 60 Mike Voudouris Bullseye on fuel cell 60 to 1
5 86 Josh Baldwin Will try harder 3 to 1
6 13 Ed Stout Cannot tout Stout 5 to 1
7 12 Larry Ragland BEST BET 7 to 5
8 91 Bill McBeath Looks for top ten 6 to 1
9 19 Ed Herbst 4WD an issue? 3 to 1
10 45 Rich Ronco If you can't beat 'em, Tatum 6 to 1
11 31 Andy McMillin GOOD BET 3 to 1
12 77 Travis Coyne Desperate! Will run hard.4 to 1
13 2 Pete Sohren "It's always somethin'"4 to 1
14 54 Jesse James Better on TV 9 to 1
15 55 Luis Wallace Dust maker 9 to 1
16 82 Ryan Arciero Needs results 5 to 1
17 38 Garron Cadiente Off game 4 to 1
18 8 Roger Norman Out sooner than later9 to 1
19 96 Bobby Baldwin Must stay on course6 to 1
20 28 Alan Pflueger Hawaii 5-maybe 4 to 1
21 48 Jeff Spiers First DNF 9 to 1
22 93 Robby Fallers May stumble in new iron7 to 1
23 51 Kory Scheeler Must finish … 6 to 1
24 40 Chet Huffman Lackluster 6 to 1
25 3 Mark Post Best race of the day2 to 1
26 1 B.J. Baldwin 2 to 1
27 47 Tim Gendreau Will be abused 8 to 1
28 58 Frank Thing Bad for "1s" 7 to 1
29 xx Thom Greer Coulda hada "Geiser"!8 to 1

CLASS 1 (37) Do they give these things away?
1 101 Todd Cuffaro "Over the top" 4 to 1
2 102 Eric Chase Must capitalize on draw3 to 1
3 103 Ronny Wilson Always a rave-fav 3 to 1
4 104 Justin Lofton Too much pavement4 to 1
5 105 Robert Ross Great chance 3 to 1
6 106 Mike Bilek Good chance 3 to 1
7 107 Max Thieriot To the max 3 to 1
8 108 Armin Schwarz Love that sound! 3 to 1
9 109 Danny Ebberts 99% there 4 to 1
10 110 Brian Kirby-Bobby Sedan class car 5 to 1
11 111 Rob Archibald Not a Primm player 6 to 1
12 112 Mark McMillin Better in Baja 3 to 1
13 113 Dale Lenk Missing something? 5 to 1
14 114 John Herder Mr. Excitement 2 to 1
15 115 Eddy Gonzalez Eddy not steady 7 to 1
16 116 Brian Parkhouse Close but … 5 to 1
17 117 Dan Myers DARK HORSE? 3 to 1
18 118 Randy Wilson Less throttle needed?3 to 1
19 119 Vince DeJong Fenders illegal? 9 to 1
20 120 Richard Boyle Top Five 4 to 1
21 121 Pat Dean Will pound through pack 6 to 4
22 122 Steve Sourapas Needss all the help … 100 to 1
23 123 Chuck Hovey Goes like scat 2 to 1
24 124 B.J. Richardson Will become impatient 7 to 4
25 125 Billy Gasper Seamless transition 3 to 1
26 126 Paul Keller Team divorced? 4 to 1
27 127 Jeff Farris Will use up wheels 9 to 1
28 128 Michael James Unappreciated 3 to 1
29 129 Luis Ramirez Jr. In the way 9 to 1
30 100 Larry Roeseler Truggy ill-suited for Primm? No matter. 2 to 1
31 131 Enrique Bujanda Might surprise 4 to 1
32 132 Gary Weyhrich Winning is addictive 3 to 1
33 133 Danny Wingerning "Loserning" 9 to 1
34 134 Harley Letner Will move up rapidly 3 to 1
35 135 Bill Witt Watch those pole cables! 4 to 1
36 136 John Harrah Quick learner 4 to 1
37 149 Adam Pfankuch Badder year gets worser 5 to 1

CLASS 1-2/1600 (25) Best battle of weekend
1 1601 Bryan Freeman Backyard Boy Even
2 1602 Ross Mattox Eye-opener draw 9 to 1
3 1603 Leonardo Navarrete SpeedMex 2 to 1
4 1604 Pacho Garcia TOP TIP 2 to 1
5 1605 Layton Bowles Might surprise 5 to 1
6 1606 Cody Robinson Might be buffaloed 7 to 1
7 1607 Scott Kinman Gobbled up 9 to 1
8 1608 Adam Ashcraft Car too light? 3 to 1
9 1609 Brent Parkhouse Hate to say it, but … 9 to 1
10 1610 Edgar Alvarez Jr. Field-filler 6 to 1
11 1611 Aaron Hawley Could win 3 to 1
12 1612 L.J. Kennedy Should win 2 to 1
13 1613 Hiram Duran Might win 3 to 1
14 1614 David Caspino Top three 2 to 1
15 1615 Steven Eugenio Unpopular 3 to 1
16 1616 Brett Maurer Can do well 4 to 1
17 1617 Arnoldo Ramirez Outclassed 9 to 1
18 1618 Cory Boyer 18th????! 3 to 1
19 1619 Arturo Velazco Twins need win 4 to 1
20 1620 Curt Geer Must banzai 4 to 1
21 1621 Evan Duran Those Durans? 4 to 1
22 1622 Justin Munyon Second gen? 5 to 1
23 1647 Blaise Jackson Car to watch 3 to 1
24 1648 Eliseo Garcia A dusty day 4 to 1
25 1649 Daniel McMillin Draw hampers … 6 to 4

CLASS 3 (7) Bad Back class
1 301 Dylan Evans "AutoWeek"-oriented 2 to 1
2 302 Ken Leavitt Ouch! 9 to 1
3 300 Donald Moss Obviously Even
4 304 Chris Raffo Oof! 9 to 1
5 305 Kirk Kovel "K" is for "Kidneys" 9 to 1
6 348 Dan Wright-2nd RS "Wrong" ∞ to 1
7 349 Scott Wooden Olneya tesota 9 to 1

CLASS 5 (5) Dying class
1 501 Michelle Bruckmann Fragile? 3 to 1
2 502 Chris Bowman TOP TIP 2 to 1
3 500 George Seeley Probably will win anyway 3 to 1
4 518 Kevin Carr Possible 2 to 1
5 519 Luivan Voelker Busbox!? 3 to 1

CLASS 5/1600 (8) "CODE" class
1 551 Chad Mayernick Decent chance 3 to 1
2 552 Adolfo Aguilar Jr. Decent effort 5 to 1
3 553 Rulo Solano Should stay at beach 9 to 1
4 554 Gregorio Villarino A finish would make day 5 to 1
5 555 Scott Pellerin The King's pretender! 3 to 1
6 556 Mario Reynoso TOP TIP 2 to 1
7 557 Albert Castro Would not surprise 3 to 1
8 579 Saul Garcia-1st RS Take some water 6 to 1

CLASS 7 (10) Could be good race
1 701 Barry Karakas Wins with ease 2 to 1
2 700 Dan Chamlee Easy second place 3 to 1
3 703 Jason McNeil NRIARWAMcN 3 to 1
4 704 Brandon Walsh Outclassed 6 to 1
5 705 Shannon Dierkop Has their moments 3 to 1
6 706 Steve Looney DARK HORSE 4 to 1
7 707 Chris Taylor Wrong "Taylor" 6 to 2
8 708 Victor Herrera, Jr. Fast 3 to 1
9 709 Ross Savage Too controlled? 8 to 1
10 719 A.J. Rodriguez-1st RS Might sully reputation 4 to 1

CLASS 7S (1) Dying class
1 *720 Mike Horner Might win Even

CLASS 7SX (8) Growing class
1 741 Rodd Fantelli Bell still ringing? 7 to 1
2 742 Norm Turley Becomes surly 6 to 1
3 743 Heidi Steele Bettern #16! 3 to 1
4 744 Noe Sierra Hopes for attrition 3 to 1
5 745 Jim Hinesley All comes down to tires 2 to 1
6 746 Kurt Youngs Will not be easy 5 to 1
7 758 Rich Severson Will rise above all 2 to 1
8 740 John Holmes Potential winner 2 to 1

CLASS 8 (2) Dead or dying class
1 800 Nick Vanderwey Time to go to TT Even growing cla
2 8xx Glen Greer Hopes for Mad Cow Disease 4 to 1

CLASS 9 (2) Where's El Pescador?
1 901 Joe Castrey No finishers 6 to 1
2 949 Rob MacDonald-1st RS 8 to 1

CLASS 10 (13) Only a few capable
1 1001 Adam Wik Mrs. Pink Even
2 1002 Kyle Conlon No style for Kyle 9 to 1
3 1003 Lonny Hart Heartbreaker 9 to 1
4 1004 Robert McBeath Hopes to finish 6 to 1
5 1005 John VanHattem No chase race = bad day 9 to 1
6 1006 Chris Harrold Has the skills 3 to 1
7 1007 Will Higman Ol' Mr. Third Place? 2 to 1
8 1008 Michael Deardorff Flats, flats, flats 4 to 1
9 1009 Lobsam Yee OA 9 to 8
10 1010 Scott Beale Asleep 9 to 1
11 1011 Matt Loiodice SLEEPER 3 to 1
12 1012 Mikey Lawrence Mikey won't like it! 7 to 1
13 1049 Arthur Basile-1st RS ExSportsman 9 to 1

SCORE LITES (17) Tough field
1 1201 Cameron Steele "Yeah, 'Mr. Pink' sounds like 'Mr. **[IMG]http://cdn3.race-dezert.com/forum/images/mexico-flag.png[/IMG] [I]¡Ay, caramba![/I]****[IMG]http://cdn3.race-dezert.com/forum/images/mexico-flag.png[/IMG] [I]¡Ay, caramba![/I]****[IMG]http://cdn3.race-dezert.com/forum/images/mexico-flag.png[/IMG] [I]¡Ay, caramba![/I]****[IMG]http://cdn3.race-dezert.com/forum/images/mexico-flag.png[/IMG] [I]¡Ay, caramba![/I]****[IMG]http://cdn3.race-dezert.com/forum/images/mexico-flag.png[/IMG] [I]¡Ay, caramba![/I]**'." - Reservoir Dogs Even
2 1202 Arturo Salas With age you get a cage 4 to 1
3 1203 Stan Potter Will be right there 2 to 1
4 1204 Scott Wisdom Strong showing 2 to 1
5 1205 David Callaway Best second-tier? 3 to 1
6 1206 Allen Russell Havin' fun 5 to 1
7 1207 Hector Garcia Jr. Journeyman 4 to 1
8 1208 Josh Meister Not the master 6 to 1
9 1209 Jason Batulis Good prep 4 to 1
10 1210 Bill Hernquist King of Torts 3 to 1
11 1211 Matthew Kupiec Will Ramsey help? 5 to 1
12 1212 Malcolm Bryce Welcome to the Big Time 4 to 1
13 1213 Mike Sandoval DARK HORSE 3 to 1
14 1214 Dustin Farmer Goes agro 6 to 1
15 1200 Tim Noe Yes-e 2 to 1
16 1216 Dan Martin Might … 6 to 1
17 1249 Ty Godde-1st RS Track record! 6 to 1

CLASS 11 (2) "D2G" class
1 1148 Ramon Fernandez-2nd RS Might get lapped 9 to 1
2 1100 Eric Solorzano A hard day Even

STOCK FULL (3) Hummer Heaven
1 861 John Griffin Has his chaser 2 to 1
2 860 Terry Henn Primm a tough edro to ho' 3 to 1
3 863 Josh Hall Stump-puller Even

STOCK MINI (3) Too many little truck classes
1 761 Steve Kovach A snowball's chance 9 to 1
2 *760 Rod Hall Been too hard on hardware 2 to 1
3 779 Gavin Skilton PR-fodder Even

PROTRUCK (1)
2 235 Jason Voss Could win "8" Even

SPT CAR (3) Prerun class
1 1400 Peter Lang Goofiest rig around 5 to 1
2 1448 Glenn Smith Sadly mistaken 6 to 1
3 1449 Rory Ward The Killer! Even

SPT TRUCK (2) Where have all the flatbillers gone?
1 1501 Andrew Leavitt Better leave it 4 to 1
2 1502 Mark Growe Motors around to win 2 to 1
Sorry if its all discombobulated!!

[tltony]

El Chinero

You gave us better odds than we would have given ourselves.

Thank you.

Frank Thing

Tony Cortes

#58

[nimrod]

Mr. Pink sounds like..........at least the odds are good......5 to 1 for second race on rebuilt TT is not to shabby.

[PEST]

I hear Eugenio may have a hired gun...

I talked to the "hired gun" yesterday...better shake off the cobwebs j/k

[Jones23]

Can you bet these odd's? if so I got a $100 on Rulo!!
3 553 Rulo Solano Should stay at beach 9 to 1

And nice to see a little respect for the Meco crew!!
23 1647 Blaise Jackson Car to watch 3 to 1
13 1213 Mike Sandoval DARK HORSE 3 to 1

[ASHCRAFT]

"car too light" Try 40lbs overweight and a 230lb driver.

[dislocated1]

I talked to the "hired gun" yesterday...better shake off the cobwebs j/k



I'd still take the hired gun with cobwebs over the vast majority of the field, HAHA

[DIRTBALL]

I'd still take the hired gun with cobwebs over the vast majority of the field, HAHA

ME TOO!!! :)

[notime]

CLASS 5 (5) Dying class
1 501 Michelle Bruckmann Fragile? 3 to 1
2 502 Chris Bowman TOP TIP 2 to 1
3 500 George Seeley Probably will win anyway 3 to 1
4 518 Kevin Carr Possible 2 to 1
5 519 Luivan Voelker Busbox!? 3 to 1 i only must say Water-Cooled rules!!!

[Tipracer]

Mr. pink reference had me rolling, Tony T your picks seem to get better and better
so true about the CODE class, although the boys have yet to show up and I don't think that very many of these guys have tangled w/rulo in a long time. And your 16 class predictions are hard to beat, at least you tell it like it is--My question is at a race like primm does one need a "hired gun"? It is relatively short and easy to remember, Does change the odd's though. It is early to think this but makes for an interesting chase for the chamnionship going into the thou.

[C. Bucher]

He's not "hired"...

They've been talking for quite sometime about splitting the driver's seat. This just happens to be the first race where its been a possibility.

Like years past, every class will be down to 3-4 real contenders (or less) by lap 3....

[Tipracer]

He's not "hired"...


Like years past, every class will be down to 3-4 real contenders (or less) by lap 3....

I didnt mean literally "hired"- just if I'm capable to race a shorter race I would try and do it myself(the whole Ivan thing)-I would only want team up for a longer race like the 500 or the 1000,But I can understand given the opportunity to share seat time with a legend I couldnt pass it up either (Remember the time when I raced with"INSERT LEGEND NAME HERE" and we won!! Those were the days.) And I totaly agree with you on the 3-4 real contenders by lap three.

[Lt. Dan 1608]

At 6 to 4, I would look out for Pat Dean. I spoke to him the other day and he wasn't too happy about having to work during Vegas to Reno. Look for him to bring it with avengence at Primm. If he gets in the zone, its overall time.

[bcampbell04]

He's not "hired"...

They've been talking for quite sometime about splitting the driver's seat. This just happens to be the first race where its been a possibility.

Like years past, every class will be down to 3-4 real contenders (or less) by lap 3....

can't wait to see how he'll do in his old car. i'm sure he hasn't lost his touch.

[bajafox]

I'd take the 9 to 1 odds in 5/16 on Raul Solano!

If his car holds, I dont think anyone is going to be anywhere near him

[la2baja]

Mr. Pink sounds like..........at least the odds are good......5 to 1 for second race on rebuilt TT is not to shabby.


Mr Pink reff. is a Steve Buschemi (sp?) Quote from Resevoir Dogs. Fine, fine flick!

[C. Bucher]

I didnt mean literally "hired"- just if I'm capable to race a shorter race I would try and do it myself(the whole Ivan thing)-I would only want team up for a longer race like the 500 or the 1000,But I can understand given the opportunity to share seat time with a legend I couldnt pass it up either (Remember the time when I raced with"INSERT LEGEND NAME HERE" and we won!! Those were the days.) And I totaly agree with you on the 3-4 real contenders by lap three.

I hear what you're saying completely. It's always been my opinion that a driver's change at this race can easily kill your chances at a class win. I know of a couple of instances where driver's didn't switch at the fuel stops because it was so close and ended up changing driver's in the pits just before they'd cross the finish line for "Driver of Record" points.

It sure will be entertaining to see who hangs in for this one...

[ace_photo]

No way! You guys have it all wrong. Niether Mike or Steven are driving.

My cousin Derek is goin to drive the first 2 laps then he'll meet me at my photo location for a driver change. Then I'll drive the car in reverse to the finish just to make a point.

This is ridiculous.. Lol.

Art EUGENIO-

[EUGENIO_979]

No way! You guys have it all wrong. Niether Mike or Steven are driving.

My cousin Derek is goin to drive the first 2 laps then he'll meet me at my photo location for a driver change. Then I'll drive the car in reverse to the finish just to make a point.

This is ridiculous.. Lol.

Art EUGENIO-

BAKE AND SHAKE.......................did i say that right?????