"Survivorman" Vs. "Man Vs. Wild"

[dan200]

While out on Shea Rd. last weekend I was part of what became a rather heated debate. Who is the bigger badazz, Les Stroud from Survivorman or Bear Grylls from Man Vs. Wild?

I vote for Les because of his Ironman approach. Bear is tough (he has climbed everest etc.) but I still like the solo mission style that Les uses. Camera crews are for wussies. :p

[Brandon Johnson]

Didn't they find out that Bear wasn't doing all the "survival"? I heard thatsome film crews went to some of the places Bear went and found out he was just a couple hundred yards from main roads and had vehicles following him.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

My vote either way goes to Les. He does his own filming and documentary. More interesting IMO.

[dezertdoug]

I think that they are both equal talents. If I was stranded either one. As for watching shows, Survivorman all the way. Les by himself does a great job most of the time.

[dezertdoug]

Didn't they find out that Bear wasn't doing all the "survival"? I heard thatsome film crews went to some of the places Bear went and found out he was just a couple hundred yards from main roads and had vehicles following him.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

My vote either way goes to Les. He does his own filming and documentary. More interesting IMO.

Heard the same thing. He never denied it either. But some of the crazy things he does makes me enjoy his show not as much as Les but I do enjoy.

[Mot51560]

Les Stroud for sure. When Bear Grylls drank his own urine i stopped watching. Bad advice when your dehydrated.

[Bricoop]

I agree, Les. If you watch the episode where Bear spends the night in a bloody camel carcass he is covered in blood one minute, then in a clean shirt the next.

[steveG]

Oh man, I love this debate!

There is a fundamental difference between Man Vs Wild and Survivorman. It's pure entertainment vs education/entertainment. If you watch the show I think it's obvious Bear will do just about anything to add shock value. Les is MUCH more level-headed and calculated about the things he does. I wonder if the difference has something to do with the fact that Bear has a bunch of guys with cameras and safety equipment following him and Les is for the most part on his own.

I'm not going to say I don't think Man Vs Wild isn't entertaining and I don't watch it. But fans of the show have to admit. Sometimes the things he does are just comical. I think the shows are targeting two very different viewers. Man Vs wild is constant action with instant gratification and Survivorman is for the realist in us that doesn't need all the fluff of all too typical television.

So who's the bigger bad-a? If taking unecessary risks and irresponsibly misguiding the public is the criteria then Bear wins hands down.

Haha, this sounds like a Robby Vs... Debate!

[450grl]

I vote Les 100%......way more believable, and way tougher. He doesn't have his camera crew running around with him - spending the night with him - helping him out. Baer is way too freakin' hyper - he wears me out just watching him sometimes.....he's like a tweaker running around in the jungle! LOL!!

[steveG]

he's like a tweaker running around in the jungle! LOL!!

Exactly!

[XTEENA]

I love both these shows, I can't get enough of them! I love Bear, my personal pick, but at the same time Les is awesome with this camera bags and what not too. Though in contrast i think Bear, from his tv start in the french forign legion reality show in the military channel, where him and others where filmed in there training for the FFL was crazy, then all his other accomplishments, not to mention the fact that Bear looks way better naked then Les!! :eek: :p ;) . But back to the serious talk, they both have there good sides and bad sides. Needless to say I like btoh shows, but if I had to choose, I pick BEAR!

Funny story about the parker race when adam broke and he knew that we could get to him till the end of the race......he said he got out of his 10 car and started collecting fire wood, then remembered "when you think you have enough, double it".....We were joking if the in car camera had film left Adam would have filmed himself surviving the desert in parker, broke down with only his camera and race car to help him survive! lol:D .Thank you Survivorman and Bear!

[dan200]

I just found this Bear Grylls Parody video. It is pretty funny. Man Vs. Wild Vs. Mardi Gras. I still think Les is the man. I heard he made a time machine out of a cactus, an argyle sock and a yellow crayon.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1800887

[MALIBLOC]

bear floating down a river with a life jacket underneath???????? I like bear but les is way knarlry. Bear show you what to do and everyone liked him first!!!! but then bear came along and won everyone over because solo mission ( ????) and no tricks, like bear.
The one question I have is imagine if he is alone, how much back tracking he has to do because of all the different camera angle's, am I th e only one that thought that?

[XTEENA]

It says at the begining of all the man vs wild shows that bear has a camera crew and emergency crew on hand, Like 450girl said, his crack like mode might get him in more dangerous situations where safety is a bigger issue then Les. Though Les also has a safety crew, they are just further away.

[steveG]

I just found this Bear Grylls Parody video. It is pretty funny. Man Vs. Wild Vs. Mardi Gras. I still think Les is the man. I heard he made a time machine out of a cactus, an argyle sock and a yellow crayon.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1800887

Classic Bear Grylls!

[woundedyak]

Bear shows you how to survive in the "wild" in particular places and situation. He never claims to be stranded. It takes them about 10 days to film one show. So yes,some nights he is in a sleeping bag and a dry tent eating right. Les on they other hand is "stranded" for days.Two different shows with the same result I guess. They both rock.

[XTEENA]

Bear shows you how to survive in the "wild" in perticular places and situation. He never clamis to be stranded. It takes them about 10 days to film one show. So yes,some nights he is in a sleeping bag and a dry tent eating right. Les on they other hand is "stranded" for days.Two different shows with the same result I guess. They both rock.


Yes, thank you. Agree. It's like comparing (for lack of a better example) James Bond and Mcgiver.....both cool, both different

[JB760]

I pick Bear he its all sort of crazy stuff and he skinned that camel and squezzed water out of the crap.

[Curtis Guise]

Les is the man. Anyone who will haul camera gear himself and hike back and forth multiple times just to get the shot has my vote.

[StGeorge-Motorsports.com]

I totally vote for bear!! Both of them are awesome at survivng in anywhere, but when it comes down to the show Man vs. Wild is way more educating because he has a camera crew with him making it easier to show how to take care of business.

[450grl]

Well...if we are voting on who's hotter, then Bear gets my vote - I love his accent, and he's definately nice to look at!!! :) HAHA!! But he's still a spaz......lol!

[Dan McMillin]

I pick Bear strictly because of his accent...

[jesusgatos]

Bear has only been more up front about how his show is filmed SINCE he got called out as a fraud (here's one link (http://www.outdoor-weblog.com/50226711/bear_grylls_a_fraud.php) - there are a lot more, some with really funny pictures and video clips). He's still a savage, but Les is more impressive as a survivalist.

[dan200]

I pick Bear strictly because of his accent...

Careful Dan, Britney Spears sometimes speaks with an english accent.;)

[hangten33]

I think I like Bear better just because of the fact he can save a life as well as take em'!!:D :D

[PEST]

Survivorman

[FlyHiFlyLo]

I've learned a lot from Les' tricks...

That guy can make fire from buffalo turds and ChapStick...

Bear stole the camel idea from Han Solo in The Empire Strikes Back. :)

[SICKSAND]

I vote for Les all the way,That Bear guy was up here when he did the sieera one and he was at one of our local lakes up here and was saying how cold it was and that he hoped he could make it blah,blah.I'm suprised that you didn't see a ski boat behind him,it was bogus and the water wasn't that cold.I looked more into that episode and you could see a telephphone pole in the back ground.That lake is about 20 minutes from my house,I had to laugh.I do agree that Bear will eat some nasty stuff but who knows what the camera man is handing him when the camera isn't on.He got busted for doing the show and then staying in the hotel and then filming again the next morning.I do like them both but bottom line is that Les is the man and does it all on his own...

[dan200]

More video making Bear look kinda weak.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1771093

[Young&Fast]

I would go for Les all the way. Don't get me wrong, bear is way more bads$$ than me but he is not even close to Les. Les seems like he would be a really cool guy to go backpacking with. Bear seems like he would not.

[pappawheely]

Les is more.

[Wasson Racing]

Les all the way!!!

[WoodyW]

Les is a Canuck and Bear is British, I vote for our own Ted Nugent. Hey wait...didn't he have a show with "survival" in the title? That makes him eligible right?

He's probably got enough ammo/ordnance to qualify for "survivalist" right?

Guarantee he drank pee at some point in his life too! And liked it!...The Nuge climbs into Bear carcasses to avoid the afternoon heat all the time...he kills one a week with his bare hands to reap natures "protein bounty" and I bet he plays Damn Yankees tunes while he does it. He'd show Les how to make fire with Napalm drenched arrows shot from a bow made from a Les Paul. From 100 yards out!...all while wearing a raccoon tail/suspenders and teaching him to play Cat Scratch Fever on the harmonica.

The Nuge is crazy....and yes it is late and I am kidding.

[dan200]

Les is a Canuck and Bear is British, I vote for our own Ted Nugent. Hey wait...didn't he have a show with "survival" in the title? That makes him eligible right?

He's probably got enough ammo/ordnance to qualify for "survivalist" right?

Guarantee he drank pee at some point in his life too! And liked it!...The Nuge climbs into Bear carcasses to avoid the afternoon heat all the time...he kills one a week with his bare hands to reap natures "protein bounty" and I bet he plays Damn Yankees tunes while he does it. He'd show Les how to make fire with Napalm drenched arrows shot from a bow made from a Les Paul. From 100 yards out!...all while wearing a raccoon tail/suspenders and teaching him to play Cat Scratch Fever on the harmonica.

The Nuge is crazy....and yes it is late and I am kidding.


Gotta love this response...Too funny

Nuge has a sign on the gate to his compound.

WARNING
Tresspassers will be shot.
Survivors will be shot again.

[michael_loomis]

both excellent shows!! but since the question is who is the bigger badazz.. you gotta go with Bear!

if Im stuck in some third world country trying to survive, not only from the elements, but the militants as well.. Im going with the special forces guy every time, lol.

PLUS ... you KNOW that guy gets the ladies! HAHA

[NIKAL]

My vote is for Survivorman. I like the fact that Survivorman is truely documenting himself trying to survive for 7 days. Also what Les tries does not always work, and he shows you what did'nt work and what did work. Its not edited to make you think everything he does always works. Because in real life survival not everytime you try to catch a fish or a rabbit are you going too. Now if your looking for more of an action type servival show then Man vs. Wild is going to be more to your liking. He will jump into quicksand just to show you how to get out. But he also has a staff with him incase he cant do it. Les's show is more real survival and Bears is more action survival.

[steveG]

Anyone here seen Snowshoes And Solitude?


Snowshoes and Solitude
In the spring of 1994, Les Stroud and Sue Jamison bade farewell to modern society and followed their hearts north into the remote reaches of the Canadian wilderness. Leaving home, family and jobs behind, they would spend the next year living closer to the land than most of us could ever imagine. And they did it without the luxury of a single modern convenience.

Traveling by canoe and in the winter by snowshoe, Les and Sue were attempting to replicate life in North America some 500 years ago, before Europeans first set foot on the continent. They created fire without matches. They built a shelter with a stone axe. They survived on what the bush provided. In doing so they realized the true meaning of living wild, and how closely life and death coexist when you're many miles from human contact.

I think it sounds interesting. I keep forgetting to look for it.

[NIKAL]

Les has another one called Off the Grid, its a personal documentary. Les Stroud and Sue Jamison, along with their two young children, share their experience leaving a world of electricity bills and water problems and going 'off the grid' as they move to their acreage in Northern Ontario.

[XTEENA]

Bear stole the camel idea from Han Solo in The Empire Strikes Back. :)


That's awesome!! LMAO:D

[la2baja]

Les all day. Not even the same ball park. No BS drama in the show. Just a bad ass alone in the wild doing what he does best. Bear is the shiney, polished, TV version of Les. I don't need the extra fluffy BS.

Send both those guys into anywhere, together for a week and you'll find Les carrying his cams, and a TV star out on his back when it's over!

[DJ Jeffrey]

I go with Les all the way. He is awesome for an educational show, i dont know about bear, i have not seen his show but i have herd about it.
PS. does anyone know when a new episode of survivorman will start

[dan200]

PS. does anyone know when a new episode of survivorman will start

SURVIVORMAN IS BACK!!! New episodes begin Friday November 7th.

[steveG]

I'm there!

[Mike @ pit b]

How could I of not seen this thread before?????? This debate led to the creation of the List of the AWESOME!


And Les would outlast, outlive, outwit, out survive and pretty much "out" Bear.

[pdailey]

Les is the man. Bear is a pansy!!! I love Survivorman. The only thing that Bear does that is gnarly is eating crap while it is still alive!!!

[Mark Newhan]

Both guys are pretty bad ass. Friday night I watched an episode where Bear skinned a sheep, turned it inside out and used it for a sleeping bag. As far as I am concerned, anyone that drinks his own piss is worthy of my admiration. Did anyone see the episode where he was in the mountains above Laguna Salada. When he made it to the beach north of San Felipe you could see the tire tracks in the sand from the fishermen.

Anyway, two different shows and both guys do some very cool stuff. I feel smarter for have watched them.

On a different note... Anyone been watching the Grizzlyman Cronicals? Guy is ballsey, but it seemed that he got just a little too comfortable with the beasts... dinaling-aling-aling, Dinner!

[dan200]

As far as I am concerned, anyone that drinks his own piss is worthy of my admiration.

hahahahaa pervert....

kidding



Was the grizzly man guy the one who tried to live with the bears and then got killed by one? I saw a show about that a long time ago. We thought he was developing some rather "unnatural" thoughts about them...:eek:

[steveG]

Les is much more my style, but I agree, they're both bad asses! Mark, I saw that show Friday too. I thought the "sheeping bag" as he called it was pretty freaking cool! The "Kamikaze Knot" was interesting too.

[Mark Newhan]

[QUOTE=dan200;614129]hahahahaa pervert....

kidding



Was the grizzly man guy the one who tried to live with the bears and then got killed by one? I saw a show about that a long time ago. We thought he was developing some rather "unnatural" thoughts about them...:eek

Yeah! Funny!!:rolleyes:

Yeah the Grizzlyman was a bit "too close" to the animals. 40 seconds in!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsmf_J_pelY



Yeah Steve... "sheeping bag" was good. Bear Gryls was in the French Foriegn Legion. This is more my style. Les is very smart, but he does have a "production team" close by, as he should. I also think that Bear's camera crew has some big ones too.

[NIKAL]

I like Survivorman better myself and I am looking forward to see where he goes this time.

[dan200]

I like Survivorman better myself and I am looking forward to see where he goes this time.

survivorman made an ipod out of twigs and bugs.

[michael_loomis]

Bear would skin Les, and wear him as a coat!!

[Mike @ pit b]

Bear would skin Les, and wear him as a coat!!

Only in an attempt to see Les naked.


Les would smash Bear w/ the 800 lbs of camera equipment he carries of his back BY HIMSELF!!

[Dan McMillin]

Bear is coming to my birthday party

[Mike @ pit b]

Bear is coming to my birthday party

I think you mean "BEER"

[michael_loomis]

Only in an attempt to see Les naked.


Les would smash Bear w/ the 800 lbs of camera equipment he carries of his back BY HIMSELF!!

Just as I suspected. Les is still living in the 50's. Out in the hills seeking refuge from THE BOMB by himself, and in this day in age of ultra HD spy cams.. still packing 800LBS of camera equipment. Add Les is a weirdo to the list.

[Mike @ pit b]

Just as I suspected. Les is still living in the 50's. Out in the hills seeking refuge from THE BOMB by himself, and in this day in age of ultra HD spy cams.. still packing 800LBS of camera equipment. Add Les is a weirdo to the list.

What do you expect, he's Canadian. Bear can't even pick up a camera:p

[dan200]

I fuggin hate the dumb way Bore Grills says "glacier".

GLASSIER.

[michael_loomis]

LOL.. Dan.. I love that part! :)

I'd like to see Les take a dip in the water the way Bear does. He'd probably shrivel up and croak.

[pdailey]

LOL.. Dan.. I love that part! :)

I'd like to see Les take a dip in the water the way Bear does. He'd probably shrivel up and croak.

Is this why he is called "bear"....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgIIRO-VqUY

[Demp]

i fuggin hate the dumb way bore grills says "glacier".

Glassier.

hahahahaha so true!

[Mike @ pit b]

The next time you are out in the Kalahari, remember this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQDmO4ftHOg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQDmO4ftHOg

[Mike @ pit b]

Bump.

This was taken off of Wikipedia about Bear Grylls.
He's a fake.

Criticism
Following allegations that the show deceived viewers into believing that he was really stranded in the wild when he was not, Channel 4 temporarily suspended the show. Discovery aired re-edited episodes, removing elements that were considered too planned, with a fresh voice-over and a preceding announcement pointing out that some parts are staged. It has continued to broadcast the program.
An adviser to the Man vs. Wild/Born Survivor series had claimed that Grylls had been staying at a California motel while filming. A crossing of a deep crevasse was shown to be within sight of a busy highway.[24] Bear was shown taming 'wild' horses who had horseshoes on their hooves when the film was examined closely. Similarly, it was alleged that Grylls had stayed at a crew base-camp in the Costa Rican jungle, while giving viewers the impression that he was alone. It was also revealed by show producers that for a presentation in which Grylls was shown killing a wild rabbit by throwing a stick, the rabbit was in fact brought in by the crew and the incident staged. Further, there have been several other incidents, including Grylls' claim to have built a raft "all by himself in a matter of hours with no tools." According to the adviser, the raft was actually built by a ranch owner and show consultant. An investigation by channel 4 also revealed that the raft's construction actually took several people with power tools several weeks to complete. This deception allegedly took place in an episode in which Grylls claimed to be on a deserted island, which as Channel 4 revealed was actually a small peninsula in Hawaii on a popular ranch and tourist attraction, the scene of at least three Hollywood movie shoots. These allegations were confirmed by Channel 4, who argued that it was not a documentary, but a "how-to" guide to survival, implying that "faked" or re-shot scenes were acceptable in that context.[25]

[Chris_Wilson]

If Bear was really as tough as he wants you to believe then instead of skinning the sheep to make a sleeping bag, he would have rolled the camerman, taken his car keys gone to a hotel and left the film crew to deal with the sheeping bag. Or maybe that IS what he did. That show is a joke. Les is the real survivorman.

[michael_loomis]

I dont know how Bear is anymore of a joke than Les. My girlfriend and I watched both shows tonight. She has never seen either. I tease her aot about being silver spoon fed.. but she is quite the trooper at her young age. She, a couple female friends and her aunt (who is the same age, early twenties) went on a ten day trip to costa rica. Not to party.. but to see the beauty, from the coasts, thru the jungles.

Bear was fun to watch, entertaining, and most importantly, showed how to use the elements and surroundings. Les annoyed the sheet out of her. When he wasnt talking about crapping himself, or puking, he was talking about all the nifty things his "team" packed for him to use if he made it to day 2.

What a crock. I'm supposed to believe Les is superior because he goes by himself, sleeps in the woods, and talks about poop and puke. Sounds like he belongs in the WTAR thread, not TV.

[LukeMcMillin]

I haven't read this whole thread but the only things I have to ask is: Are the point of the shows to show you how you could survive OR to see IF he can survive. I like Grills better, and even though there are rumors floating around that he stays in hotel rooms and stuff, well I think he knows he's NOT cheating it, but when the camera rolls he shows you what to do in different scenarios as survivor man is more of a show to see if he CAN survive not necessarily "teaching" you.

[Mike @ pit b]

I haven't read this whole thread but the only things I have to ask is: Are the point of the shows to show you how you could survive OR to see IF he can survive. I like Grills better, and even though there are rumors floating around that he stays in hotel rooms and stuff, well I think he knows he's NOT cheating it, but when the camera rolls he shows you what to do in different scenarios as survivor man is more of a show to see if he CAN survive not necessarily "teaching" you.

All the above mentioned stuff is true.

Les "Survivorman" Stroud is making a documentary. Not a reality show like the pansy Bear.

Les is out in the wild by HIMSELF, filming HIMSELF all alone and carrying 60+ pounds of camera gear, not to mention the stuff he is allowed to take on the specific trip.

Les makes it a point to NOT get hurt and break a bone.

Bear however, to this date, has a broken shoulder, filming his reality show.http://beargrylls.blogspot.com/

How many people have lived in a survival situation with a broken shoulder?? Not to many I'm guessing.

So you get rid of the hotel rooms and the camera gear....

and my $$$ is on Les.


This says it all right here. Case closed. Bear's a fake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UpSlpvb1is

[LukeMcMillin]

Wasn't Bear in the British armed forces or W/E you call it? How do you call him a pansy. What I am saying is, is that the point of Bears show is NOT to see if bear can survive but it is to show you stuff you can do if you get caught in those situations. Sure maybe that part of his show was filmed by a highway, but the point of his show is not him getting back to civilization its just showing you surviving techniques and in that particular clip he was showing you what to do and what not to do in that cliff situation. Surivor Man show is more of an game/entertainment to see if he can survive. O yea and if Survivor man is so isolated how does he find old motorcycles behind bushes and stuff!? That's restarted.

[michael_loomis]

Thats it Mike.. I'm sending Bear over to your house to have him kick your arse. He made his point about the bridge, plain and simple..

Last nights Les show.. "oh man! I'm not going by that camera! there is a wasp on it!" and Bear is the pansy?

[Mike @ pit b]

Wasn't Bear in the British armed forces or W/E you call it? How do you call him a pansy. What I am saying is, is that the point of Bears show is NOT to see if bear can survive but it is to show you stuff you can do if you get caught in those situations. Sure maybe that part of his show was filmed by a highway, but the point of his show is not him getting back to civilization its just showing you surviving techniques and in that particular clip he was showing you what to do and what not to do in that cliff situation. Surivor Man show is more of an game/entertainment to see if he can survive. O yea and if Survivor man is so isolated how does he find old motorcycles behind bushes and stuff!? That's restarted.

Where did he find motorcycle behind a bush?

The point of Survivorman is to live through all sorts of situations that any person can find themselves in. Like a guy riding his dirtbike in the dez and the bike breaks. He stripped what ever he could use off of it.

The point is that Les is out there all alone with whatever he brings with him. Bear is not and goes back to the hotel at night and gets to eat a solid meal.

It's how Bear sells the show that makes him a pansy. :D

[dan200]

Thats it Mike.. I'm sending Bear over to your house to have him kick your arse. He made his point about the bridge, plain and simple..

Last nights Les show.. "oh man! I'm not going by that camera! there is a wasp on it!" and Bear is the pansy?

Man crush? What about Marky Mark???:)

[michael_loomis]

What?? I cant have two!?

[Mike @ pit b]

Thats it Mike.. I'm sending Bear over to your house to have him kick your arse. He made his point about the bridge, plain and simple..

Last nights Les show.. "oh man! I'm not going by that camera! there is a wasp on it!" and Bear is the pansy?

That is because he is in a real survival situation and is not going to risk his health and safety.

Bear doesn't care because the medics are with him standing behind the camera crew.

[dan200]

What?? I cant have two!?

for all the Bear lovers

[michael_loomis]

LOL.. thanks Dan.

Now how are you going to tell me that jumping into heart stopping cold water, isnt a real survival situation, regardless of what they have standing by. Or climbing some of the stuff he climbs. The man is a total badass.. even if they stage some of the stuff. He is still doing it.

Next your going to tell me that Criss Angel is staged as well....
























well guess what... have you seen HIS new girlfriend?? LOL

[Mike @ pit b]

LOL.. thanks Dan.

Now how are you going to tell me that jumping into heart stopping cold water, isnt a real survival situation, regardless of what they have standing by. Or climbing some of the stuff he climbs. The man is a total badass.. even if they stage some of the stuff. He is still doing it.

Next your going to tell me that Criss Angel is staged as well....


well guess what... have you seen HIS new girlfriend?? LOL

Um.... That's why Bear is wrong. You DON'T jump into heart stopping cold water in a survival situation. That can end up killing you.:eek:


And Criss Angel is real man!:D
































A real douche bag that is.:)

[michael_loomis]

Um.... That's why Bear is wrong. You DON'T jump into heart stopping cold water in a survival situation. That can end up killing you.:eek:


Exactly Mike... Bear shows how to save your own life if you fall thru the ice, fall into a river, boat starts to capsize..

Les showed me how to start a fire with a Bic lighter last night. woo..

[Mike @ pit b]

Exactly Mike... Bear shows how to save your own life if you fall thru the ice, fall into a river, boat starts to capsize..

Les showed me how to start a fire with a Bic lighter last night. woo..

Les is smart enough NOT to fall in the water. He makes it a point to stay out of dangerous situations.:p

You never saw Les start a fire with a flare did you? Bad ass.

[michael_loomis]

He is, but the common person isnt. Bear is trying to help us.. Les is full of himself apparently, cause he makes a point to tell he isnt full of sheet anymore.. :D

[Mike @ pit b]

He is, but the common person isnt. Bear is trying to help us.. Les is full of himself apparently, cause he makes a point to tell he isnt full of sheet anymore.. :D

So Bear is the common man now?

How many common men have climbed Everest?


And Les has ended his show now. He's done all he can and wanted to do.

[michael_loomis]

Are you drinkk Mike?

Les is a homo. nuff thread. debate over. :D

[Mike @ pit b]

Are you drinkk Mike?

Les is a homo. nuff thread. debate over. :D

It is over only because I choose it to be:D



You just seemed to be intoxicated by Bears accent.:p

[michael_loomis]

hehe.. when the glassier melts.. it turns to wahtuh, and the rivah rises to an extreme level....

[EUGENIO_979]

Its all for entertainment right? I like to watch both of the shows, you can really learn some stuff like......How to eat a Zebra mmmmm....im hungry

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff94/EUGENIO79/survivorman.jpg

[michael_loomis]

lol... gnarly.. looks like its been dead for a few days too. I think he just found his halloween costume as well!

[Mike @ pit b]

So how sick is he gonna get by eating raw Zebra meat's that probably ridden with parasites?

That's how you end up dying in a survival situation.

[dan200]

I googled bear grylls is gay and lookie what i found....

LOOMIS?????

http://www.gayoutdoors.org/forums2000/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=652

[b-makk]

Cool, I didn't even know Survivorman was available in the US.

Do you get the large Canadian flag in the credits or do they cut that?

Now you just need the Trailer Park Boys to air in the US and then there will be no debating what is the best show on TV.

[bajafox]

I googled bear grylls is gay and lookie what i found....

LOOMIS?????

http://www.gayoutdoors.org/forums2000/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=652

I can't believe I just read this...

[michael_loomis]

I googled bear grylls is gay and lookie what i found....

LOOMIS?????

http://www.gayoutdoors.org/forums2000/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=652

GOOGLED... YA RIGHT!!!!

The guy is a stud, what do you expect?? There are plenty of woman out there who talk about Megan Fox, and how fast they would shampoo THAT carpet!

[jrtorres]

Bear Grylls is a complete f-idiot....he put his pecker in a dead snake..peed in it..so he could drink it later...and yes; he drank it. Not to mention that he does stuff you should never do in a survival situation...does make for a good comedy though.

[Mark Newhan]

I haven't read this whole thread but the only things I have to ask is: Are the point of the shows to show you how you could survive OR to see IF he can survive. I like Grills better, and even though there are rumors floating around that he stays in hotel rooms and stuff, well I think he knows he's NOT cheating it, but when the camera rolls he shows you what to do in different scenarios as survivor man is more of a show to see if he CAN survive not necessarily "teaching" you.


I believe that Bear was French Foriegn Liegion. These shows are made to be entertaining. I like them both. They are both survival shows, but that is where the similarities end.