Behold, the Global Warming Hoax: Record Cold for Northern Minn. 40 Below

[pjc]

AP/Myway ^ | 2/11/08 | staff

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) - It lived up to its name: The temperature in International Falls fell to 40 below zero Monday, just a few days after the northern Minnesota town won a federal trademark making it officially the "Icebox of the Nation."

It was so cold that resident Nick McDougall couldn't even get his car trunk lid to close after he got out his charger to kick-start his dead battery. By late morning, the temperature had risen all the way to 18 - below zero.

"This is about as cold as it gets, this is bad. There's no wind - it's just cold," said McDougall, 48, a worker at The Fisherman, a convenience store and gas station in the town on the Canadian border. "People just don't go out, unless you have to go to work."

Residents of the area use electric engine block heaters to keep their cars from freezing.

"You plug in your car, for sure, and you put the car in the garage if you can," McDougall said. His garage is full of other things, so he had to park outside - a "big mistake."

The previous record low for Feb. 11 in International Falls was 37 below, set in 1967, said meteorologist Mike Stewart at the weather service in Duluth. The cold was expected, he said: "When the winds finally died off and the skies cleared off, it just dropped."

The temperature also fell to 40 below in Embarrass, 80 miles southeast of International Falls. That's just one degree above the all-time record in Minneapolis, 250 miles to the south, that was set in January 1888, the weather service said.

It was also a cold day for the appropriately named town of Winter. The town in northwest Wisconsin chilled to a low of 25 below.

"I try to stay out of it as much as possible right now," said Winter area resident Bill Warner, 37. "I don't have to go out and do anything today so I am all right. You don't want to be out there too long."

Chilly air also spread into the Northeast on Monday and many schools in New York state between Buffalo and Syracuse closed or opened late. Single-digit temperatures plus high wind drove the wind chill factor to nearly 20 below across much of upstate New York.

Philadelphia had a "Code Blue" alert in effect, sending outreach crews to coax homeless people into shelters. Monday's low of 10 above zero.

Farther south, freezing rain hit southwest Missouri early Monday, making roads hazardous and losing schools. A coating of ice up to an inch thick was expected across much of southern and central Missouri, the weather service said.

"It's treacherous. If you can stay home this morning, do it," Missouri Highway Patrol Sgt. Dan Bracker said in Springfield.

Thousands of West Virginia homes and businesses had no electricity Monday after the state was hit by weekend wind gusts of up to 55 mph. At least nine counties closed schools because of power outages and the cold - the mountain city of Elkins had a low of 6 above.

Classes also were canceled Monday for a number of schools in Michigan, which remained in a deep freeze after a weekend of single-digit temperatures and gusty wind. One death was blamed on the weather.

[HotRod82]

If you read much about GW, you probably have seen the data released last week about the lack of solar flares/activity. The last time this happened, the earth went into a deep freeze that lasted 30 years. Further proof that the climate experts really do not know what is going to happen. Sad part is no matter who gets into office they are going to ram all kinds of new legislation down our throat in the name of GW. The peak of GW was in 1998...10 years ago. I thought we were supposed to be a full degree warmer by now???

[Waldo]

Anyone ever read "State of Fear"...? I found it to be a good read.

[pjc]

Anyone ever read "State of Fear"...? I found it to be a good read.

An outstanding book!

[woundedyak]

Here is something weird. I live in Indy and it's 23 degrees right now and raining.In my experienc, It has always turned to snow right at the 30 degree mark. So,in the month of february,I've seen the temp swing from 20 to 55 to -3 in less then a 20hr period.Record number of tornados(for February) and raining at 23 degrees. I know the earth is about a billion yrs old and we have only been tracking weather for about 200yrs of it. So call it what you like. I call it Mother Nature

[Ron_Burgandy]

at -40 you can dump out a cup of coffee and it will turn to crystals before it hits the ground

[zetapsi827]

um........ isn't a theory of GW that it will eventually get cold and we'll get another ice age? so wouldn't there being colder winters and hotter summers support that idea?

[ErikShallbetter]

Yep, thats Minnesota, the F350 wouldn't start to save it's life. We had to tow it into the shop and let it sit for like an hour, still took eather to get her going.

[Waldo]

Yep, thats Minnesota, the F350 wouldn't start to save it's life. We had to tow it into the shop and let it sit for like an hour, still took eather to get her going.

From what I read, some of them have an engine block heater...nice.

[Mark Newhan]

Well as a kid I remember the Green Bay Packers and New York Giants games were always in snowy conditions... Then they werent... and this year they were again.

I also remember that in the 1970's my "teachers" were warning us of the impending Ice Age... All of the "educated" eliteists need to use their energy in a more positive fashion. Quit with the hysterics... you all look like dousche bags at the end of the day.

[sickrick]

International falls has the distintion of being the coldest recorded tempature in a US city -68. That is not counting wind chill.

[sickrick]

From what I read, some of them have an engine block heater...nice.

The f350 has 2 engine heaters, still wouldn't start.

[kaw500]

My old man grew up in Rochester MN and just before he died he asked me not to bury him in the cold ground in MN. To this day he's still with me and I guess he'll stay until the aforementioned GW warms up the ground back there.;)

I remember that Ice age propaganda in elementary school, scared the hell out of me. I guess that's the idea, scare tactics.:eek:

[Chase 2]

One of my favorite John Prine songs had the lyrics:

Please don't bury me down in the cold cold ground!
I'd rather have them cut me up and pass me all around!........

[pjc]

The f350 has 2 engine heaters, still wouldn't start.

7.3?

If so, check the glow plug relay.

[sickrick]

7.3?

If so, check the glow plug relay.

Glow plugs are disconnected, it is actually easier on the starter/batteries/engine to just use a little shot of either. In the warmer months I hook it back up.

Unfortunately at 27 below the batteries just didnt have the juice to start it, they need to be replaced.

[Waldo]

The f350 has 2 engine heaters, still wouldn't start.

That's coooooooold!

[zetapsi827]

Bash GW/ManBearPig all you want guys, but one day you will realize there is something bad going on. Maybe it's not a problem in Minn, but look at what's happening down in the southwest.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330591,00.html

PHOENIX — Changes in climate and strong demand for Colorado River water could drain Lake Mead by 2021, triggering severe water shortages across the Southwest, scientists said Tuesday in an unusually bleak water-supply outlook.

Researchers working at San Diego's Scripps Institution of Oceanography said the West's largest storage reservoir faces increasing threats from a combination of factors, including human-induced climate change, growing populations and natural forces like drought and evaporation.

A dried-up Lake Mead would be a disaster for Arizona and Nevada. The lake, formed by the Hoover Dam in 1935, is located on the border between the two states.

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If water levels were to drop below 1,000 feet in elevation, Nevada would lose access to all its river allocation. Arizona would lose much of the water that flows through the Central Arizona Project canal.

Hydroelectric power production at the Hoover Dam also would cease before the lake level reached bottom, researchers said.

[Lake Mead is the primary source of water and power for nearby Las Vegas, the fastest-growing metropolitan area in the nation since 2000. The Hoover Dam also supplies power to Los Angeles and Phoenix.]

There is a 50 percent chance Lake Mead will run dry by 2021 and a 10 percent chance it will run out of usable water by 2014, if the region's current drought deepens and water use climbs, researchers said.

"We were stunned at the magnitude of the problem and how fast it was coming at us," said marine physicist Tim Barnett, who co-authored a paper examining the fate of Lake Mead. "Make no mistake — this water problem is not a scientific abstraction but rather one that will impact each and every one of us that live in the Southwest."

Lakes Mead and Powell help manage water resources for more than 25 million people in the seven states, including Arizona, that rely on the Colorado River for water and power.

The two huge reservoirs have been studied in recent years using numerous hydrology models, but none forecast a dry Lake Mead within 15 years.

"We did a lot of studies, and none of them ever made Lake Mead go dry, period, end of story. We looked 100 years out, and Lake Mead never went dry," said Larry Dozier, deputy general manager of the Central Arizona Project.

Dozier had not seen the Scripps study but worked closely on other models that have produced different results.

"We did what we called our worst case, and it just didn't happen," he said.

Currently, Lake Mead is half-full, as is Lake Powell further upstream in Arizona. Both lakes help manage water resources for more than 25 million people in seven states.

[DEZERTSUB]

Insert Bob Marley song here...

"don't worry, about a thing. 'cause every little thing, is gonna be allright"

Global climate shift is a natural occurance. It's like death and taxes...why sweat it so much?

(Or not sweat if you're up north!):cool:

[zetapsi827]

I'm not sweating it dude (in the winter). i'll be long dead before anything drastic happens i think. I just remember going up to that lake when i was younger. the water level has dropped a good 9+ feet in 15 yrs. look at that picture, that white rock used to be where the water was. Stuff like that, and the record consecutive days with 110+ degree heat we had last year kind of make me think a bit. To be honest i don't even remember busting out my jacket last year.

but yeah. turn up the bob tunes and pass.......

[Infidel Racing Team]

Insert Bob Marley song here...

"don't worry, about a thing. 'cause every little thing, is gonna be allright"

Global climate shift is a natural occurance. It's like death and taxes...why sweat it so much?

(Or not sweat if you're up north!):cool:

I guess the proper Bob song for this forum is:
Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds!
-Bob Marley

Indeed Global climate shift is a natural occurance, but there is no doubt we humans are having an impact in changing the current conditions

[pjc]

Bash GW/ManBearPig all you want guys, but one day you will realize there is something bad going on. Maybe it's not a problem in Minn, but look at what's happening down in the southwest.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330591,00.html

PHOENIX — Changes in climate and strong demand for Colorado River water could drain Lake Mead by 2021, triggering severe water shortages across the Southwest, scientists said Tuesday in an unusually bleak water-supply outlook.

Hey, we need a moratorium on new construction (no water) based on scary, lopsided and convenient consensus to drive all our RE values back up where they were in 2005. Owl Goron could be the flag bearer. He's good at BS!

Turn that hoses on guys and gals. Let's speed this thing up!

BTW, the Arizona Water Authority came out and said that Scripps' report was "all wet"!

[Shotdsherrif]

but yeah. turn up the bob tunes and pass.......

Hey! That is over the line!!! What you are suggesting is illegal!!!

What?:confused: Ohh ... nevermind. :o

[Shotdsherrif]

Bash GW/ManBearPig all you want guys, but one day you will realize there is something bad going on. Maybe it's not a problem in Minn, but look at what's happening down in the southwest. ...



Seriously though, I think your anxiety is perfectly natural. But if something were to go seriously wrong in the Southwest, it would still go down as a pretty mean feat that humans managed to survice there for as long as they did. If we really weren't meant to live in the desert then we will move on having learned a lesson.

The thing that never seems to get discussed is that there is no PRO-destroying the planet lobby out there advocating for environemtal disaster. Its not that people are wrong for looking around and being concerned. Its the fever pitch hysteria that has evolved all of a sudden in the last 10-15 years. That's what annoying ... the science behind it is circumstantial at best ... yet its being parroted everywhere you look.

[Young&Fast]

Bash GW/ManBearPig all you want guys, but one day you will realize there is something bad going on. Maybe it's not a problem in Minn, but look at what's happening down in the southwest.


Well its 70 and beautiful. I don't know about you but global warming is great. The cold flat out sucks.

[pjc]

A new motto: "Increase your carbon footprint for more sunny days - burn race fuel!"