What do you think?

[Brandon Johnson]

I heard this on the radio today and wanted to see what the RDC folk think about this Baltimore cop who is "dealing" with skateboarders.

Do you think this is abuse of power?
What would you do if these were your kids?
I know there are police officers who post on here and would like to know what they think of this and if they have ever witnessed something similar first hand.

YouTube - Baltimore Cop vs Skater

[hyoctane303]

abuse of power? for sure


maybe blame it on poor education system for them not being able to read ( was there signs that said no skating???)


maybe he is pissed about the gay lil car he's driven:D :D :D

[Brandon Johnson]

abuse of power? for sure


maybe blame it on poor education system for them not being able to read ( was there signs that said no skating???)


maybe he is pissed about the gay lil car he's driven:D :D :D

They were making fun of the car on the radio today. Signs, I don't know all the facts of what happenned but I'm sure even if there were signs it could have been handled in a way more productive manner. They are kids and I am sure they are scared to death of cops, or are on their way to thanking the city for all the $$$$ the will probably get.

I also think it is abuse of power and I am sure the officer just like every normal person was just having a sh**** day and snapped. As an officer he should be able to control his feelings and emotions which he didn't. I don't have kids so I really don't know how I would react because my kid would probably be some little punk and deserve it.

[pjc]

Under B. Hussein's blunders, the skater will be drafted in a few years and the LEO is a great taste of what the punk will face via the skills of his DI.

Now, here's a question for the readers here, would your son be disrespectful to a LEO?

[PayDirt1]

Baltimore must have very little crime, if "Officer Irate" needs to spend that much time solving another skater in the park problem. Maybe he was practicing for when he grows up and gets to drive the BIG police car. LOL

[Infidel Racing Team]

They were making fun of the car on the radio today. Signs, I don't know all the facts of what happenned but I'm sure even if there were signs it could have been handled in a way more productive manner. They are kids and I am sure they are scared to death of cops, or are on their way to thanking the city for all the $$$$ the will probably get.

I also think it is abuse of power and I am sure the officer just like every normal person was just having a sh**** day and snapped. As an officer he should be able to control his feelings and emotions which he didn't. I don't have kids so I really don't know how I would react because my kid would probably be some little punk and deserve it.

Yep, both the kid and the officer were out of place. No biggie, there was no physical contact just a bit of abuse, but sometimes kids need a firm hand.

If the officer had toned down a bit it , then it would be a proper response

[Bulldozer]

There was a thread about this awhile back. It happened on "National go skateboarding day."

[Infidel Racing Team]

Under B. Hussein's blunders, the skater will be drafted in a few years and the LEO is a great taste of what the punk will face via the skills of his DI.

Now, here's a question for the readers here, would your son be disrespectful to a LEO?

Do you think everything revolves around who is in the Whitehouse?
If so, then this "punk's" attitude is G.W. Bush fault.

Obama has not yet win anything, so hold your judment until he is in the position of taking decisions

[Brandon Johnson]

There was a thread about this awhile back. It happened on "National go skateboarding day."

the national skateboarding day one was a different one. This was from this week.

Go skateboarding day Video

YouTube - go skateboarding day: cop v.s. skaters

[pjc]

Do you think everything revolves around who is in the Whitehouse?
If so, then this "punk's" attitude is G.W. Bush fault.

Obama has not yet win anything, so hold your judment until he is in the position of taking decisions

Stop sniveling!

Hey, check this out about B. Hussein!

http://mrsircy.blogspot.com/2008/01/obama-could-be-in-big-big-trouble.html

[scott-dsms]

Yep, both the kid and the officer were out of place. No biggie, there was no physical contact just a bit of abuse, but sometimes kids need a firm hand.

If the officer had toned down a bit it , then it would be a proper response

Dude grabbed the kid around the neck and threw him to the ground - Not necessary. The kid wasn't threatening him or anything and if that was my kid I have a few words for the officer. Nobody puts their hand on my kids. That's the parent's job.

As far as the kid saying 'dude, I didn't hear you' being disrespectful...I dunno that's common street vernacular. Not the smartest thing to say, but most likely not the worst thing ever said to this guy either. He's a wiener!

I agree the guy is probably pissed from being laughed at all day rousting up kids for their skateboards in that lame car - LOL

He started going after the camera kid at the end - Papparazzo :)

[cheap jeep creep]

What a jerk. That kid needs some BIG BLACK SECURITY

[cheap jeep creep]

the national skateboarding day one was a different one. This was from this week.

Go skateboarding day Video

YouTube - go skateboarding day: cop v.s. skaters (http://youtube.com/watch?v=EH6AYVn2yw4)


Did that cop just choke out a girl thats crossing the line. Id like to see a follow up on these people to see what the judge had to say.

[Bulldozer]

the national skateboarding day one was a different one. This was from this week.

Go skateboarding day Video

YouTube - go skateboarding day: cop v.s. skaters (http://youtube.com/watch?v=EH6AYVn2yw4)

Woops, guess you're right.

IMO the cops were way out of line in both instances.

[Goober]

Can you say lawsuit.

[dan200]

I hope officer A-hole enjoys his you tube fame. He could spend his whole career fighting crime but this is all he will be remembered for. F him!

SKATEBOARDERS WILL RULE THE WORLD!:D

[TreyP]

Under B. Hussein's blunders, the skater will be drafted in a few years and the LEO is a great taste of what the punk will face via the skills of his DI.

Now, here's a question for the readers here, would your son be disrespectful to a LEO?

Actually yes my son would question this "LEO" as this piece of junk nazi shouldn't be allowed to be one. I have taught him to respect authority, but to question authority when it is misused. This nutcase fat jerk should never be allowed to be in any form of law enforcement. His lack of self control proves it. LEO's that I know would never have resorted to this kind of stupidity.

Your obsession with Obama is seriously in question. What does he have to do with this incident? What is up with that? What is your real cause?

[glamisrnr]

I think the LEO is just pissed from having to get in and out of that car all day long. I respect LEO's, to a certain point, I mean seriously were they even wreaking anything? Total overreaction.

[Bulldozer]

Your obsession with Obama is seriously in question. What does he have to do with this incident? What is up with that? What is your real cause?

Seriously dude it's getting out of hand propagandameister.

[Dezert Edge Racing]

Do you think everything revolves around who is in the Whitehouse?
If so, then this "punk's" attitude is G.W. Bush fault.

Obama has not yet win anything, so hold your judment until he is in the position of taking decisions



Holy Crap dude, are you really going to start this over here too? Theres a thread a couple down from here that talks about this... Changing your name and comming into this thread to say the same thing that you said in the other one isnt going to help you at all. :rolleyes:


NICK

[dr shaw6]

IMO an action gets a reaction. If the cop would have approched the kids in a different mannor im sure the reaction the kids gave would have been a lot different. In both cases the cop approches yelling and using force, resulting in the kids reaction of a slight attitude (which is expected when approched like this)
It is also my opinion that the kids in these videos acted more mature and held back their emotions better than the cops did, who are trained keep their composure and not let personal emotions effect their work.
Shame on the Police in these videos!

[offroadracer516]

sence when did we become a nazi state?

come on guys look at the vid its a kid and this guy acted like his life was on the line
its pathetic and whats sad is this is aloud to happen.....i know if that was my kid i would do every thing i could to get this guy fired

[Mot51560]

The officer was way out of line. I guess his golf cart wasn't fast enough to catch the people riding dirt bikes through the streets of Baltimore and endangering lives so he took it out on the skateboarders.

[zetapsi827]

the officer is an a-hole. i'm glad he got suspended. should've been without pay though imo.

[Chris Tobin]

the officer is an a-hole. i'm glad he got suspended. should've been without pay though imo.

He got suspended with pay?????:confused: :confused:

That is rediculas (sp) He should have been fired. If it was my son I would do everything I could to get him fired in addition to sueing the city for allowing this JERK to be on the police force to begin with!!!

[Vtr_Racing]

I skated...... I also made sure I never got caught! :eek: That guy would have had alot of trouble chasing us down with his Golf cart and was in not in physical shape to keep up with us.

LMAO! "You got that camera on? If I find myself on ....." That was funny.
That Cop was way out of line. The kids were not bad. Officer doesn't know the meaning of respect.

[zetapsi827]

He got suspended with pay?????:confused: :confused:
!!!

yes he did. 3 weeks i think. sounds like a vacation if you aske me. story was on cnn.com. just go to their videos section. they interview the police chief and the mayor. both were not happy with him either.

[Kartman]

Most people watching videos like this dont understand police work and its just a cop doing his job or the idiot resists etc

In this one the cop crossed the line but still it was no big deal.

This reminds me of Officer Rivieri
YouTube - Scatterbrain - Don't Call Me Dude

[Ol' Curmudgeon]

Nice find!

[baja619]

Those cops are tools!
You are not going to save the world by hassling kids.
Go fight crime fatass!

YouTube - Dirt Bike Concerns

[baja619]

YouTube - Dirt Bikers Of Baltimore

[DaveGores]

Surprise surprise. Every time one of these threads pop up, regardless of which forum it happens to show up on, everyone jumps on the "fire the pig" bandwagon. No doubt the guy seemed irate but the number of you that think you can psycho-analyze the situation depicted in a 90 second video astounds me.

[Ol' Curmudgeon]

Maybe it's because we are raised to believe that society should behave better than its lowest common denominator.

Police, firefighters, teachers and many public officials are held to a higher standard than a lot of the ilk they deal with.

Respect begets respect. Fear begets secrecy and retaliation.

[DaveGores]

Maybe it's because we are raised to believe that society should behave better than its lowest common denominator.

Police, firefighters, teachers and many public officials are held to a higher standard than a lot of the ilk they deal with.

Respect begets respect. Fear begets secrecy and retaliation.

I didn't say I was against holding public officials to a higher standard. What I did hint at, however, was that this bandwagon lacks psychic ability. Demanding a man be fired because a short video surfaces of him yelling at some brat is ridiculous.

[baja619]

So is choking out a little kid and manhandling a 14 year old after you slam him on the ground, under any circumstances. No excuses, No exceptions.

[DaveGores]

So is choking out a little kid and manhandling a 14 year old after you slam him on the ground, under any circumstances. No excuses, No exceptions.

That's a nice way of putting it. Choking him out and slamming him to the ground? A bit exaggerated perhaps.

This may have been one video where the kid wasn't planning on fighting but I've seen videos where security guards get hit with skateboards by kids looking as innocent as this kid. Cops don't negotiate. You either cooperate or you have a bad day.

[Ol' Curmudgeon]

Cops don't negotiate. You either cooperate or you have a bad day.

Ask the late Tom Lantos about der juden vs. the ss. Citizen rights trump public might under our constitition.

[Bulldozer]

That's a nice way of putting it. Choking him out and slamming him to the ground? A bit exaggerated perhaps.

This may have been one video where the kid wasn't planning on fighting but I've seen videos where security guards get hit with skateboards by kids looking as innocent as this kid. Cops don't negotiate. You either cooperate or you have a bad day.

Yea well it's usually not 14 year olds swinging th skateboards and there's a big difference between cops and security guards. Even if someone else hit a cop with a skateboard once that doesn't justify choking the kid.

[Kartman]

So is choking out a little kid and manhandling a 14 year old after you slam him on the ground, under any circumstances. No excuses, No exceptions.

There was no choking and the kid got pushed not slammed after non compliance. A bit overboard but not that big a deal.

[Ol' Curmudgeon]

A bit overboard but not that big a deal.

But isn't it part of the slippery slope into non-civility? Like when on COPS or the local news, a suspect surrenders, lies down on the ground with arms extended, and the officers still dog pile on him, kneeing his kidneys, wrenching his arms back, pummeling him with fists, even though he's exhibiting no resistance or no longer posing a threat?

Seems to me these officers are violating their oath to uphold the US constitution, wherein one is to be presumed innocent until found guilty, and punishment is arrived at AFTER adjudication.

Next thing you know, we'll be dumping paraplegics out of their wheelchairs. Oh wait, that just happened, ON TAPE. The officer involved is "under investigation."

If you or I did that, I'll bet we'd be under lock and key.

[baja619]

But isn't it part of the slippery slope into non-civility? Like when on COPS or the local news, a suspect surrenders, lies down on the ground with arms extended, and the officers still dog pile on him, kneeing his kidneys, wrenching his arms back, pummeling him with fists, even though he's exhibiting no resistance or no longer posing a threat?


After the 15 minute high speed pursuit those SOBs get what they deserve. I cannot help but laugh, when I see the scenarios play out on TV.

Im all for a little physical retaliation especially after speeding through busy streets & neighborhoods. On the other hand I still dont think the kid needed to be manhandled.
Non-compliance or not there was absolutely no threat. The cop was out of line, he could have easily secured him with the cuffs in as much time it took to drop him on the ground. That cop is a tool.

[Ol' Curmudgeon]

After the 15 minute high speed pursuit those SOBs get what they deserve.

But THAT is still to be determined under OUR constitution. Perhaps if you would like to live under Napoleonic law, where one is guilty until proven innocent (a tough standard, even alledged steriod consumer Mr. Clemens knows one can't prove a negative), you should try Mexico.:eek:

[baja619]

Im a red blooded American through and through, but since it seems like so many of our constitutional rights seem to have been reworded, redefined or thrown completely right out the window...

Given the chance or motivation to relocate I would highly consider the move....
to Cabo or some place of the like.

Till then Ill suk it up and do my best to stay out of trouble, and counter act the extremist that seem intent on self destruction "For the better good & Majority of all" this country is headed towards.

[Ol' Curmudgeon]

Agreed, I still think of America as an ideal we all must strive to attain, and maintain.

Seems to me that Mexico's system has more problems than ours.

Not sure what you mean with the phrase in quotes.

Are you referring to the increasingly stiff restrictions on personal behavior in our increasingly interdependent society?

Like no spectating at desert events like we used to be able to enjoy?:mad:

[Ryno]

[QUOTE=Grove Racing;405996]I heard this on the radio today and wanted to see what the RDC folk think about this Baltimore cop who is "dealing" with skateboarders.

Do you think this is abuse of power?
What would you do if these were your kids?
I know there are police officers who post on here and would like to know what they think of this and if they have ever witnessed something similar first hand.



You have to handle everything case by case. First, treat people how you'd like to be treated. The kid is 14, and wasn't posing a threat. If it was my kid, I'd go after the cops ass. You don't lecture someone you don't know. I'd teach my kids to respect authority. In regards to the police, you respect them, ride it out, and let me handle it when I come get you. Cops are here to protect law and order. This kid wasn't being as obidient as the officer hoped. But how he approached things was completely wrong.

[baja619]

You nailed it Drake

[Brandon Johnson]

In the video the officer is also commenting on the parenting of the kids. I dont think that is for the officer to decide in this instence. maybe if the kid was "unruly" or if the parents don't know where the kids are, I think he can question the parenting

[Brandon Johnson]

They should investigate the officer (if he has kids) and how he raises them, Do you need to put your foot up your kids butt?If so how often? Why did he need to grab the skate board from the ONE kid.
Just a few things after watching it again

[la2baja]

Personally, I have nothing against cops at all. I don't think that guy represents most cops. If I was there and saw that guy grab that kid and throw him down for a skate board... For no reason... I'd knock his fat arse out!
I have a feeling he has a battered wife and kids at home.

Sorry not the right thing to do. Two wrongs don't make a right, but that guy needs a good arse kicking! There is no room in the world for a bully like that!