Atlanta

[kaw500]

OK now, Carl Edwards rocking and the Fords looking good.
JR only car from the big "H" in the top 10.
RG better pick up the pace no matter what the outcome of the appeal.

Predictions? Other random thoughts?

[RGFan]

Good rebound week. Top 15, RG knows how to get around Atlanta

[RGFan]

If not, I hope he has the Dallara's at the shop. Just in time for the beginning of the IRL season.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

One good finish, one middle finish, one bad finish. We need a good finish.

[michael_loomis]

good finish coming in thee ATL

[Offspring]

If not, I hope he has the Dallara's at the shop. Just in time for the beginning of the IRL season.

I don't care if he wins the weakened IRL/Champ car title, if he leaves a looser it will haunt him, more so than any baggage he carries now, and make a lot of nascar folk happy...Right now he really pizzes them off and I like that.

[spalind]

Any news on what (if any) his sponsor will be at ATL?? Another RG Offroad Wheels weekend??

[RGFan]

I don't care if he wins the weakened IRL/Champ car title, if he leaves a looser it will haunt him, more so than any baggage he carries now, and make a lot of nascar folk happy...Right now he really pizzes them off and I like that.

Weakened title, it is stronger then it has ever been since it's inception. And if RG does leave, it will be because nascar gave him no choice financially by screwing with his ponits. It will be yet another dent in the Nascar armour as they begin their steady fall back to being just another series. RG leaving Nascar for the IRL would be big news, but not for the reasons you stated. RG would generate enough news about Nascar and be able to flame them all he wanted and tell the millions of frustrated fans just how corrupt that governing body really is. If the Senate can investigate the NFL and MLB, they should certianly be investigating Nascar.

Nascar needs Robby Gordon alot more then Robby Gordon needs Nascar. Robby could go and build teams in the IRL, ALMS, SCORE and Dakar to build his power house. In 3 years from now, Nascar and the IRL will be on an even keel.

[NIKAL]

Any news on what (if any) his sponsor will be at ATL?? Another RG Offroad Wheels weekend??

I heard but I don't have any confirmations that Valvoline will be the primary with Jim Beam as an associate on the side.

[spalind]

I heard but I don't have any confirmations that Valvoline will be the primary with Jim Beam as an associate on the side.

That would be a big help...

[Chris Tobin]

I heard but I don't have any confirmations that Valvoline will be the primary with Jim Beam as an associate on the side.

Is that only if the 10 does not make it in? Or does it matter if the 10 is in or not?:confused:

[RGFan]

Rg had an excellent relationship with Valvoline years ago in CART and on his TT in the Mid 90's. I do not know how it would rub GEM,but I could see them wanting to move over to RG if the Carpentier thing does not work out well.

[Dempkowski Motorsports]

it seems like they are pushing Carpentier to get as much practice as he can , he filled in and drove Khane's Busch car.. opps i mean Nation Wide series car... lol any ways....
PC is a very good driver comming from the open wheel ranks, but the new COT cars are nothing like a Panoz Champ Car....time can only tell ... just look at jacques villeneuve and JPM.. champ car..formula 1 and now nascar....all of these Ex open wheel drivers are good wheels, just not used to a big ,heavy, gripless COT... id say mid season, one or two of the open wheel guys will podium a race.. once they get a hand on their cars

[bajafox]

These open wheel guys make Robby look good.

I bet they all thought they could jump into a Cup car and be competitive right out of the box. RG can wheel just about anything and be competitive almost immediately.

I read Red Bull might drop A.J. temporarily to try and get the team into the top 35

[Dempkowski Motorsports]

These open wheel guys make Robby look good.

I bet they all thought they could jump into a Cup car and be competitive right out of the box. RG can wheel just about anything and be competitive almost immediately.

I read Red Bull might drop A.J. temporarily to try and get the team into the top 35

when i raced Shifter karts, AJ was one class above me, nice kid, but i dont think Nascar is his thing

[michael_loomis]

lets stir the pot a little...

so remember all the monster going to Dale Jr because of a buyout.. blah blah..

so now that bud is with kahne , if AW buys out monster.. can they sponsor RGM ??

[woundedyak]

lets stir the pot a little...

so remember all the monster going to Dale Jr because of a buyout.. blah blah..

so now that bud is with kahne , if AW buys out monster.. can they sponsor RGM ??

The only problem I would see with that is Jim Beam

[michael_loomis]

well then Jim Beam should step up for the other 18 races! lol

[NIKAL]

I heard but I don't have any confirmations that Valvoline will be the primary with Jim Beam as an associate on the side.

I guess this would be pretty good confirmation that RG's car will be Valvoline/Jim Beam sponsored this weekend. Looks good!

YouTube - Sneak peak of the No. 7 Valvoline car

[bajafox]

I guess this would be pretty good confirmation that RG's car will be Valvoline/Jim Beam sponsored this weekend. Looks good!

YouTube - Sneak peak of the No. 7 Valvoline car (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWLqDoNQXAY)

Nice!

I just hope we get to see some racing between all those commercials and 20 hours of prerace commentary this weekend:mad:

[Dempkowski Motorsports]

:eek: that thing look AMAZING !:D

[NicksTrix]

nice looking car. that's a good refreshing look. so many of these things look crummy.

[Bricoop]

That couldn't be the Vegas car they have they right side torn off, could it? I would think the trailer would still be on the road.

[Tristar Racing]

Is this just a "Thank You" from Valvoline for giving them space during the Daytona 500?

Or could this fill the sponsor gap for more more than just one race?

Robby and Valvoline... Wheres Derrick Walker? :)

[NIKAL]

AJ's out of the #84 car starting this week.

Red Bull Racing Team has confirmed that veteran NASCAR driver Mike Skinner will temporarily replace AJ Allmendinger in the #84 Red Bull Camry in the Sprint Cup Series effective this weekend at Atlanta Motor Speedway. Skinner, a Craftsman Truck Series champion, currently races full-time in the #5 Toyota Tundra. "We’re at a crossroads where we need to make a change that will elevate the #84 team to success,” said VP and General Manager Jay Frye. “AJ’s our guy and he’s a talented driver, but there’s a lot being asked of him. In order for him to be successful, we have to get this team pointed in the right direction. We hope we can do that with the help of a veteran driver.” Skinner’s history with Red Bull Racing Team dates back to 2006 when he served as a test driver for the team. Skinner’s history with Allmendinger also dates back to 2006, when he mentored teammate Allmendinger during the rookie’s part-time ride with Bill Davis Racing NCTS team. Frye hopes with the help of Skinner, that RBRT will have the program turned around and the ride returned to Allmendinger in no time. AJ Allmendinger, #84 Red Bull Driver said: “Let’s not kid ourselves; I’m a racer and I want to be racing, but I get the big picture here and obviously we need to improve our program. Do I want to be out of the car? No. But, I know Skinner can help both me and my team. All I can say is he better be prepared for me to eat, drink, and sleep with him. Ok, well maybe not the sleeping part, but I’m ready to attach myself to him and learn everything I can.” Mike Skinner, Substitute #84 Driver: “The first time I ever met AJ, I took an immediate liking to him. He’s not just a great personality; he also has a remarkable amount of talent. He took on a huge challenge jumping into stock cars last year, and I’m glad I can be the one to help him and his team figure out where the glitches are in their program. This is a positive thing for AJ as a learning experience, for the Red Bull Racing Team to get back on track, and for me to have the opportunity to help another Toyota team that has great equipment and potential.

[RGFan]

The car looks incredible.....Saw the #7 Hauler heading down the 93 south from Vegas towards Phoenix on my way up to Vegas today, along with another dozen or so haulers. The hauler is not colorful, but it sure looks clean

[NicksTrix]

That couldn't be the Vegas car they have they right side torn off, could it? I would think the trailer would still be on the road.

not a chance. that car needed at least a front clip, complete nose and a side. i'd say it will roll into nc tues sometime. if randy has a back up they can run non stop to get here, that is if they aren't testing the back up in phx.

[RGFan]

They were definetely on their way to Phoenix today, no need to be on the 60/93 otherwise. I would imagine they are testing the backup or swapped cars in Vegas before the hauler left. They must have two haulers or they are running straight from Phoenix to Atlanta and will have the Atlanta cars brought down in smaller carriers to meet the hauler in Atlanta. That is my guess anyways

[NIKAL]

RG was in Phoenix today testing. Here are todays results. Only 25 cars took to the track.

1 15A Paul Menard Chevy 27.442 131.186
2 42A Juan Pablo Montoya Dodge 27.454 131.128
3 96A J.J. Yeley Toyota 27.468 131.062
4 41B Reed Sorenson Dodge 27.486 130.976
5 07A Clint Bowyer Chevy 27.498 130.919
6 29B Kevin Harvick Chevy 27.525 130.790
7 29A Kevin Harvick Chevy 27.544 130.700
8 31B Jeff Burton Chevy 27.590 130.482
9 1A Martin Truex Jr. Chevy 27.591 130.477
10 78A Joe Nemechek Chevy 27.617 130.354
11 41A Reed Sorenson Dodge 27.647 130.213
12 01A Regan Smith* Chevy 27.669 130.110
13 22A Dave Blaney Toyota 27.672 130.095
14 07B Clint Bowyer Chevy 27.675 130.081
15 8B Mark Martin Chevy 27.728 129.833
16 00A David Reutimann Toyota 27.770 129.636
17 6A David Ragan Ford 27.783 129.576
18 40X Dario Franchitti* Dodge 27.838 129.320
19 44A Michael McDowell* Toyota 27.850 129.264
20 21A Bill Elliott Ford 27.861 129.213
21 8A Mark Martin Chevy 27.870 129.171
22 7A Robby Gordon Dodge 27.967 128.723
23 55A Michael Waltrip Toyota 28.078 128.214
24 49A Ken Schrader Dodge 28.135 127.955
25 10A Patrick Carpentier* Dodge 28.468 126.458

[RGFan]

Must have had some smaller carriers meet them there or they kept one in Anaheim. I saw the RGM hauler on 60/93 at approx 1:30 pm MT.

[spalind]

Awesome....off to write me an email to Valvoline...

[michael_loomis]

:eek: that thing look AMAZING !:D

what he said.. but without the asian accent.. :)

[Dempkowski Motorsports]

the good side for this weekend, i get to lay down and watch racing :) the worst part.. im getting my tonsils out thursday at 9 am :eek: :( uhhh

[b-makk]

For contacting Valvoline

http://www.valvoline.com/pages/contact.asp

[PLS]

Nascar needs Robby Gordon alot more then Robby Gordon needs Nascar.

Funniest thing I've read all day. As much as I like Robby, if he left Nascar it would be old news two weeks later. They would never miss him. There's plenty of middle of the pack teams to pick up the slack.

I do agree with you that Robby has other options to build up in his race career.

[Mary Kay]

the good side for this weekend, i get to lay down and watch racing :) the worst part.. im getting my tonsils out thursday at 9 am :eek: :( uhhh

oh man good luck i had mine done about 4 years ago! the doctor butchered me. i ended up with very bad nerve damage in my throat, ended back in the hosp. and off of work for two weeks while loosing my taste for about a year....lucky me when it came back everything tasted different....such as hamburger now taste like dirt...yummmmm

[Dempkowski Motorsports]

oh man good luck i had mine done about 4 years ago! the doctor butchered me. i ended up with very bad nerve damage in my throat, ended back in the hosp. and off of work for two weeks while loosing my taste for about a year....lucky me when it came back everything tasted different....such as hamburger now taste like dirt...yummmmm

:eek: thanks... makes me feel better now ... hahah im nervous.. ive seen pictures ... and now my dad wants to race the MORE balls out 250 .. which is a week and two days after i get my lil friends snipped out :eek:

[b-makk]

:eek: thanks... makes me feel better now ... hahah im nervous.. ive seen pictures ... and now my dad wants to race the MORE balls out 250 .. which is a week and two days after i get my lil friends snipped out :eek:

"lil' friends snipped out" ...lol, glad we know you're talking about your tonsils when just above that you mentioned "more balls out":eek:

[Dempkowski Motorsports]

"lil' friends snipped out" ...lol, glad we know you're talking about your tonsils when just above that you mentioned "more balls out":eek:

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !!!!!!!!! that made me laugh out loud at work hahah a:D

[NicksTrix]

you'll be able to have all the ice cream you want. don't fall for that old line. drinking water will hurt for a few days. it's a great way to loose a few #'s. stock up today & wed on the calories you can pack in. you'll need them over the next week.
you'll be happy you're getting them out later on.

[RGFan]

Funniest thing I've read all day. As much as I like Robby, if he left Nascar it would be old news two weeks later. They would never miss him. There's plenty of middle of the pack teams to pick up the slack.

I do agree with you that Robby has other options to build up in his race career.

You can think it is funny all that you want. But Nascar is in the midst of losing alot of fans because they have a credibiity issue. On one hand, they say they want to make this series single car team friendly, but yet they do everything they can to kick a single car team out. And I will not even start on their unequal penalty process. This is not because the driver in questions name happens to be Robby Gordon, please tell me you did not think that. If the single car teams do end up going away, yes, Nascar will feel the pain and it will not be forgotten in 2 weeks as you put it. But yes, RG has multiple options if he does in fact leave Nascar.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

You can think it is funny all that you want. But Nascar is in the midst of losing alot of fans because they have a credibiity issue. On one hand, they say they want to make this series single car team friendly, but yet they do everything they can to kick a single car team out. And I will not even start on their unequal penalty process. This is not because the driver in questions name happens to be Robby Gordon, please tell me you did not think that. If the single car teams do end up going away, yes, Nascar will feel the pain and it will not be forgotten in 2 weeks as you put it. But yes, RG has multiple options if he does in fact leave Nascar.

RG will never leave NASCAR. He will still show up twice a year and make "The best drivers in the World" look like little school girls. :cool:

[RGFan]

Well Fly, only 24 hours ago, RGM was in serious danger of being left out of Nascar. RGM out of the top 35 with their qualifying record was a sure recipe for missing races. And by RG's own admission, he was looking at the IRL. It is all for not now, RG is safely in the top 35 (knock on wood). It will be interesting to see where the money is in the next 3-4 years with the IRL back on it's feet. I can tell you one thing for sure.....The IRL has everything to gain and nascar has everything to lose, a process which has already began.;) Do not be suprised if a full time RGM IRL entry shows up in the next couple of years. Now if RG is driving it, that is another story

On to Atlanta

[kaw500]

Is it just me or has the amount of RG fans gone up especially on this site in this section? Plenty of room on this wagon.

Just like last year top 20', 15's and a few top 10's & he's in the chase. last year I predicted top 25 and in the chase this year. Anything is possible. Right??

[Chris Tobin]

Weather looks very iffy this weekend. I am about 2.5 hours north of ATL in Tennessee and it has been raining since last night, pretty hard at times. I'm sure quals will be rained out and the races this weekend may be postponed as well... We are hearing reports that it may even snow here over the weekend!!! I hope they get to race but it is not looking good right now!:eek:

[spalind]

Weather Channel (take it for what its worth) says only rain this AM and then cold and windy the rest of the weekend with 0% chance of precip on Sunday--don't have to worry about temps changing the grip on the track though...consistently in the 40's throughout the weekend (except at night dipping into the 30's...)

[NIKAL]

Pretty bold statement from Toyota's Lee White regarding the #99.

Toyota's GM says #99 knew what it was doing with lid: Lee White, GM for Toyota Racing Development, said Carl Edwards' team knowingly caused a lid to come loose on an oil tank in his Ford because it increased the car's speed during Sunday's victory at Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Edwards was penalized 100 points by NASCAR for the missing cover. Roush Fenway Racing has denied the infraction was intentional, saying a bolt broke because of a vibration. The team said it wasn't certain it achieved a gain in performance. White said the manufacturer's testing at wind tunnels in Germany revealed removing the cover on the oil tank (located in a steel box behind the driver's seat) resulted in 170 extra pounds of downforce, the aerodynamic measurement of keeping a car glued to the track. White also said video of a pit stop showed a member of Edwards' pit crew pulling on a right rear fender to open a 3-inch gap to an inner panel. Toyota testing showed that would create about 70 pounds of downforce, White said. NASCAR said the only issue with the car during inspection was the lid.

[randy s]

Pretty bold statement from Toyota's Lee White regarding the #99.

Toyota's GM says #99 knew what it was doing with lid: Lee White, GM for Toyota Racing Development, said Carl Edwards' team knowingly caused a lid to come loose on an oil tank in his Ford because it increased the car's speed during Sunday's victory at Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Edwards was penalized 100 points by NASCAR for the missing cover. Roush Fenway Racing has denied the infraction was intentional, saying a bolt broke because of a vibration. The team said it wasn't certain it achieved a gain in performance. White said the manufacturer's testing at wind tunnels in Germany revealed removing the cover on the oil tank (located in a steel box behind the driver's seat) resulted in 170 extra pounds of downforce, the aerodynamic measurement of keeping a car glued to the track. White also said video of a pit stop showed a member of Edwards' pit crew pulling on a right rear fender to open a 3-inch gap to an inner panel. Toyota testing showed that would create about 70 pounds of downforce, White said. NASCAR said the only issue with the car during inspection was the lid.

hey now. that sounds like cheating. carl edwards would never do that. would he? quack.

[michael_loomis]

Sounds like Toyota has tried every cheat in the book to figure out downforce.

[spalind]

Practice moved to 4:30 and qualifying to 6:45...I'm assuming Atlanta has lights for nightime racing?

[Combo]

Practice moved to 4:30 and qualifying to 6:45...I'm assuming Atlanta has lights for nightime racing?

Yep. Don't you remember Rg being framed for the roll bar padding incident?:D

[spalind]

Yep. Don't you remember Rg being framed for the roll bar padding incident?:D

I do, I didn't remember it was under the lights though...

[spalind]

Hmmm, weather must have cleared...they are running practice laps now...and with like 31 drivers on the track, RG is 6th fastest...that bump up the standings helped in more ways than one...no way he is on the track practicing already if he's way down at like 37th...

[Chris Tobin]

Hmmm, weather must have cleared...they are running practice laps now...and with like 31 drivers on the track, RG is 6th fastest...that bump up the standings helped in more ways than one...no way he is on the track practicing already if he's way down at like 37th...

I was going to say the same thing... The weather down south must have cleared more than here...

As of now 27-minutes into practice top ten cars are...

48
29
88
99
16
1
8
12
7
78

I hope they get the 10 going better he is 39th right now, that won't cut it on a fast ATL track, he'll miss another show...

the 83 is in 12th...

[Chris Tobin]

Man, it is going to be tough deciding who to start on my fantasy team this week...:eek: :confused:

Who are you top team guys starting??

[michael_loomis]

wont be so tough for me.. I forgot to change my driver list before the qualifying cut off! again! Damn it. lol

I better get on the ball before week 9 rolls around! lol

GAS ON!

[Chris Tobin]

wont be so tough for me.. I forgot to change my driver list before the qualifying cut off! again! Damn it. lol

I better get on the ball before week 9 rolls around! lol

GAS ON!

You can still switch drivers among your roster you just can't add or delete drivers from your team between now and the final cutoff.

[Combo]

Man, it is going to be tough deciding who to start on my fantasy team this week...:eek: :confused:

Who are you top team guys starting??

Im going with a sleeper..........Burney Lamar!!!:D

[michael_loomis]

You can still switch drivers among your roster you just can't add or delete drivers from your team between now and the final cutoff.

yes, i know buddy.. thats what i meant :)

I would have taken some all new guys for this week. its cool.. i'll make do.. haha

[Chris Tobin]

Im going with a sleeper..........Burney Lamar!!!:D

Man don't be givin out secrets like that!!!:eek:

[Combo]

I just read that P.J. Jones is Parnelli Jones's son. I didn't know that. Maybe im just dumb for not knowing that.!!!:D

[bajafox]

Jeff Gordon quote:

"I was sore on Monday, but I'm feeling better each day," Gordon said. "We've had competitive cars at each race this year, we just don't have the finishes to show for it. We'll hopefully rebound with another strong performance -- coupled with a great finish -- this weekend."

Sounds like something a different Gordon was saying most of last season...

[AllwaysRcn]

RG 15th fastest in practice. 2nd fastest "Fodge"........I mean Dodge. B-Lab fastest Dodge

[FlyHiFlyLo]

With Kyle Petty soon to be on the outside looking in... I would say he retires this year.

[DanDan]

Q is under way. No rain yet. Anybody know RGs qualifying spot?

[Offspring]

19th out for Q

[DanDan]

OhOh. MT says its raining on the back straight.

[DanDan]

Thanks Offspring.

[DanDan]

Jet dryers are out.

[RGFan]

I just read that P.J. Jones is Parnelli Jones's son. I didn't know that. Maybe im just dumb for not knowing that.!!!:D

Tell me you are kidding:D ;)

[Combo]

Tell me you are kidding:D ;)

No! Did you know Michael and Mario Andretti are related? Yes I knew that!
Like Robby and Jeff are brothers!

Just trying to throw some humor out there its Friday! And with all the appeal stuff over with now!

Hoping for a good finish. And a move upwards in the standings!

[spalind]

And Carpentier is the fastest of the go or go homers!! Looks like he will start about 21st and RG will be about 25th (and possible on the same row as POS!!)

[DanDan]

RG will be starting 26th.

[RGFan]

He has a good race setup it seems.......Hoping for a top 15.

[Tristar Racing]

Looks like an awful setup right now, talking about the car feeling above the race track. That usually means a complete miss on the setup. Could be a long day. Most of the time, when the car lacks grip at all four corners, that signifies a wrong spring/shock package.

[Ryan_P]

Horrible, horrible, horrible.

Talk about a complete miss on the setup.

[spalind]

Horrible, horrible, horrible.

Talk about a complete miss on the setup.

Which is kind of a shock given the decent qualifying and practice sessions..

[DEZERTSUB]

Unless Kyle Busch blows another right front tire, he might be the force to be reconed with today. Dam that kid is good:mad:

[woundedyak]

Unless Kyle Busch blows another right front tire, he might be the force to be reconed with today. Dam that kid is good:mad:

For some odd reason,I have developed alot of respect for that kid as a driver! He just blows it when he opend his mouth.

[DEZERTSUB]

For some odd reason,I have developed alot of respect for that kid as a driver! He just blows it when he opend his mouth.

He's very talented, and I admire his style of driving such a loose car. But yeah, he does try a little too hard sometimes, doesn't he now?

[RGFan]

He's very talented, and I admire his style of driving such a loose car. But yeah, he does try a little too hard sometimes, doesn't he now?

The one you guys let get away, instead of Mears.

[RGFan]

RG has some fast moments, he needs to get back on the lead lap, he is running top 15 laps easily after the first 7 laps or so. That first 7-10 laps they are just horrible

[Tristar Racing]

Hey, to anyone that remembers last week. I guess they tried the new spotter last week, does anyone agree the one that is back up top this week is about 100 times better? I really like the job this spotter does, he was up there for Daytona and California.

[RGFan]

Hey, to anyone that remembers last week. I guess they tried the new spotter last week, does anyone agree the one that is back up top this week is about 100 times better? I really like the job this spotter does, he was up there for Daytona and California.

Yes, I agree. He is much better. The new guy, his parents post on the Uprising, so I did not want to post and say that he sucks, hurt their feelings in the process. Whoever is spotting now needs to stay. Between him and Kerr, they are both very good at talking Robby down from his typical meltdowns.

[RGFan]

RG needs long green runs, he really picks it up after 10 laps. He starts off slow, but the others fall off fast and he maintains.

RG: Hey Franky, it is a little loose, a little loose
Franky: 10-4 Robby
Spotter: That's ok, your the man! You can handle it.


LOL!!

[RGFan]

Oh, Shrub is having issues.......That would have to be the most frustrating thing of all......Having the most dominant cars all weekend only to have mechanical failures

[RGFan]

RG is running equal laps with the leader, 24th, 4th car 1 lap down.

[Tristar Racing]

Yes, I agree. He is much better. The new guy, his parents post on the Uprising, so I did not want to post and say that he sucks, hurt their feelings in the process. Whoever is spotting now needs to stay. Between him and Kerr, they are both very good at talking Robby down from his typical meltdowns.

Yea, I wouldnt say the new guy sucks, he just is not what Robby needs as a spotter, he is just too in-experienced.

[RGFan]

Man, he is running fast now, he is going to adjust the track bar on his next pit stop......Loose is fast.

[RGFan]

Yea, I wouldnt say the new guy sucks, he just is not what Robby needs as a spotter, he is just too in-experienced.

What he does not need as a spotter, too inexperienced= Sucks

[RGFan]

RG still running 164-165 mph. he just pit, man he is going to lose another lap before he gets going again

[RGFan]

COme on yellow flag...Where is the foam padding when you need it. Boyer catches him in 2

[RGFan]

Ah man, there he is....2 laps down, but fighting him every bit of the way

[Mary Kay]

robby' car look sweet just wish is was running better!
at least they talked in a nice way about him!!!!

[RGFan]

How about Jimmie Johnson......Man what a year:rolleyes: Looks like him and Chad are to busy doing commercials and not spending enough time preparing for the race

[Ryan_P]

How about Jimmie Johnson......Man what a year:rolleyes: Looks like him and Chad are to busy doing commercials and not spending enough time preparing for the race

I'd hate to say that, but they have had a terrible start to the season. However, I don't doubt their talent one bit.

[Tristar Racing]

Dont know if anyone just heard that, but they were discussing Sam Hornish with Roger Penske. Roger asked how Hornish was doing in the race, and Robby replied.

He then told his spotter to ask what Roger thought about stealing his spotter one week before the Daytona 500! Interesting stuff.

[RGFan]

HA!!!!! RG just slammed Roger Penske and Nick for Nick leaving RGM.....RG asked his new spotter to pitch them both off of the top of the grandstands, he wanted to see them fall.

[RGFan]

The GEM Dodges are just crap today

[RGFan]

Edwards is losing his motor or trans

[Mary Kay]

darn it 99 up it smoke of some kind....i am getting my butt handed to me today in fantsy nascar:mad:

[DEZERTSUB]

Doesn't the Biff have a pretty good record at Atlanta? Still looks like Kyle is gonna run away with it

[RGFan]

RG reeling in Hornish, half of a second faster

[RGFan]

On his arse, has gained an entire straightaway in 10 laps

[RGFan]

Wow!!!!!!Not only does a Toyota beat the Hendricks today, Kyle Busch is the one who does it. Do you think Rick Hendrick is having any sellers remorse?

[RGFan]

Beleive it or not, RG was one of the top 5 fastest cars towards the end.

[RGFan]

Wow, I did not think Tony Stewart could top his rants from the other day about Goodyear..........He just did........"There is a reason why Goodyear was pushed out of F1, IRL, CART, WWO, today proves it". Pretty much said that Hoosier or Firestone could do a much better job then Goodyear has.

[DanDan]

TS sure likes those Goodyears, huh? :D

[woundedyak]

I'm glad Someone has the balls to blast Goodyear! I wonder the 18,20 and 11 had a side bet for who got the first win?

[RGFan]

Yeah, I do not see Tony getting any Goodyear money any time soon. I have a feeling that Nascrap will be inviting him in for a little chat with them and Goodyear. But after reading earlier, maybe nascrap should be the ones called to the mat, they are the ones who tell Goodyear what they want. I will admit though, crappy tire or not, consistancy does seem to be an issue.

[Tristar Racing]

Wow, I did not think Tony Stewart could top his rants from the other day about Goodyear..........He just did........"There is a reason why Goodyear was pushed out of F1, IRL, CART, WWO, today proves it". Pretty much said that Hoosier or Firestone could do a much better job then Goodyear has.

What an ass. Firestone most certainly had a better product in open wheel, but what a jerk. I wish I could ask him to see his engineering degree and his job title as a tire development engineer. Cut the mullet fatass.

[Tristar Racing]

I'm glad Someone has the balls to blast Goodyear! I wonder the 18,20 and 11 had a side bet for who got the first win?

How about blasting Nascar for asking Goodyear to bring a harder tire. Heres a better question, in the concern of safety. How many blown tires were there today that caused massive accidents into the wall? Exactly...

[DEZERTSUB]

How about blasting Nascar for asking Goodyear to bring a harder tire. Heres a better question, in the concern of safety. How many blown tires were there today that caused massive accidents into the wall? Exactly...

Was it a faulty tire that caused Kyle to wreck so badyesterday after being totally dominant?
(I ask because I really don't know)

[Tristar Racing]

Was it a faulty tire that caused Kyle to wreck so badyesterday after being totally dominant?
(I ask because I really don't know)

If it was, how much camber did that car have, what were the cold tire pressures, and how many other cars suffered? It could have been a bum tire, but my issue is Stewart complaining so much. His issues with Goodyear date back to the dirt years and a supposed lack of support for Tonys teams, I hope that Rosie O'Donnell look-alike gets what he deserves...

[Combo]

Was it a faulty tire that caused Kyle to wreck so badyesterday after being totally dominant?
(I ask because I really don't know)

Broken shock mount

[RGFan]

How about blasting Nascar for asking Goodyear to bring a harder tire. Heres a better question, in the concern of safety. How many blown tires were there today that caused massive accidents into the wall? Exactly...

Not trying to start anything with you, you are the tire engineer. But I would love to have your insight as to why there seems to be a consistancy issue with the tires. I understand air pressure, agressive camber resulting with uneven wear thus creating heat etc.

But having a consistant tire, meaning a tire with the same serial number that actually behaves the same seems to be a problem. Some of these guys will not make any adjustments during a pit stop, change tires and go back out with the car behaving much worse then it did with the last tire change. That is the issue I am getting at. It seems to me that alot of the teams are having this issue respectfully.

[RGFan]

Broken shock mount Was that before hitting the wall or after. Regardless, it seems that the teams or nascar does not have a solid handle on the loads that are being put on these front ends. Obviously much different then the old car. Sounds like some of the geometry needs to be worked on. Maybe outlaw the coil binding and bump stop setups and mandate the springs on the cars so they are not puting so much load on the A-arms. Leaving some variability with the shocks would/could be a compromise to still allow the teams some adjustment to the front end.

[Tristar Racing]

Not trying to start anything with you, you are the tire engineer. But I would love to have your insight as to why there seems to be a consistancy issue with the tires. I understand air pressure, agressive camber resulting with uneven wear thus creating heat etc.

But having a consistant tire, meaning a tire with the same serial number that actually behaves the same seems to be a problem. Some of these guys will not make any adjustments during a pit stop, change tires and go back out with the car behaving much worse then it did with the last tire change. That is the issue I am getting at. It seems to me that alot of the teams are having this issue respectfully.

The track temperatures surely didnt help today. As far as consistency, that is a great question, I will be contacting a few old friends Monday morning to get some insite.

Personally, I think its not just one factor, but a number of little ones. First off, Goodyear might be building tires that vary slightly, Im not saying its impossible.

Also, these cars are relatively new and the teams are applying old techniques to "fix" cars during pitstops.

More importantly, these cars are basically running on solid suspensions, running on the bump stops. When you take the suspension, the very system designed to deal with changing road conditions (or track conditions), and remove it from the equation, ANY change in enviroment, tire contruction, or chassis adjustment will be amplified greatly.

Nascar needs to let Goodyear bring a softer tire, and needs to create rules to keep the guys on the suspension, and off the bump stops. Right now though, I think there is a giant flaw in geometry in the new cars, and riding the bump stops is the only way to make them handle decently. I dont think anyone, Nascar or the teams, have an answer how to make the car handle without riding the bumpstops.

[RGFan]

Thanks, that is what I essentially posted above. They might as well just pin the front spindles to a fixed, solid axle beam because that is what they are trying to do with these coil binding/ bump stop set ups. I really think that nascar should mandate the springs for the car leaving some flexibility with what shocks the teams can use. Put a set of 2000 pound springs on the front of these cars so they will not bind and the suspension will work once again. They may not handle as well, but it will take these ridiculous loads off of the tires and front suspension.

[Ryno]

Good day for RG. Did what he needed to. Mayeb not finish where he would have liked, but better than a DNF, and keeps him nicely in the points. Guess who is # 35? One more race, and POS will be a go homer. Hope he put a new register in the checkbook, His hand might start cramping up.

[michael_loomis]

RGM tops of the GEM cars? hmm.. cool.

as far as tires are concerned, I dont think any of it is goodyears fault, I blame the CCs who set the cars up for most of it.

[mattb]

I'd love to see RG punt MW at his first opportunity. There would be a seasons worth of pleasure watching him try to qualify..

[RGFan]

RGM tops of the GEM cars? hmm.. cool.

as far as tires are concerned, I dont think any of it is goodyears fault, I blame the CCs who set the cars up for most of it.

The real issue is the bump stops. These guys are taking the supsension away from the cars by leaning so hard on the right fronts and the bump stops. They might as well pin the front spindles to solid, fixed axle beams and go race, that is essentially what they are doing right now. Run big, mandatory springs up front, allow the teams to adjust with shocks and get rid of the bump stops. Tires will be happy, a-arms will be happy and the cars will actually behave like cars and not go-karts.