Rg's Crew Chief revolving door continues...

[spalind]

Frankie Kerr...gone...

http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/8094212/R.-Gordon-parts-ways-with-crew-chief-Kerr

[Chris Tobin]

Frankie Kerr...gone...

http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/8094212/R.-Gordon-parts-ways-with-crew-chief-Kerr

I posted about Paul Andrews leaving MWR and that he would be good for RG a day or two ago...:eek: Maybe RG will be able to get PA over to RGM!?!?!?!? That would be great!!!!!:D

[NIKAL]

MWR's COT have not been very good. Why do you think having Paul come over to RGM would make Robby's COT work better? Just asking. I think Paul was great in his time, but they are saying these COT are totally different then the old cars.

[Chris Tobin]

MWR's COT have not been very good. Why do you think having Paul come over to RGM would make Robby's COT work better? Just asking. I think Paul was great in his time, but they are saying these COT are totally different then the old cars.

I think PA is a good motovator and I think he would be able to work with RG without the two of them killing each other. Remember with all this "info sharing" that is supposed to be taking place with GEM, RGM should not be in the hole setup wise and they need someone who can maintian calm control over the situations and make the proper decisions and guide Robby to the capabilities that we all know he has. I think RG would not try to walk on a Championship crewchief as much as he has his other CCs in the past. It would also be a good PR move bring back the CC who won a Championship with the 7 car and an owner driver, they could talk about the future linking with the past and so on!

Also, if PA stuck through it with MWR for all this time, I would hope he would be able to be a consistent force with RGM long enough to develop chemestry and balance that is needed for the team to perform to its capability.

What do you think???

[NIKAL]

Well Frank Kerr was with RGM and then left for MWR to be the #00 CC with DR. IMO he did not do all that bad with DR when they made races, only to return to RGM. So you would think both RG and Frank would know what there getting into with each other. Also I was thinking that maybe RGM just needs to suck it up and pay for a top CC. Then I looked at some of the CC's that RG has worked with in the past and where they are now. Gil Martin #07 RCR Chevy / 7th in points, Greg Erwin #16 Roush Ford / 8th in points and Kevin Hamlin #83 RB Toyota /16th in points. So maybe its just RG!

Franks temp/permanent? replacement is Walter Giles (Per Lee Spencer at FoxSports). He comes from Marco's Ambrose #59 Busch team. And before that he was with DEI's #1 team as the chief race engineer. So we will see how long he lasts. RG is the new Dale Jarrett as far as CC's go!

[Chris Tobin]

Well Frank Kerr was with RGM and then left for MWR to be the #00 CC with DR. IMO he did not do all that bad with DR when they made races, only to return to RGM. So you would think both RG and Frank would know what there getting into with each other. Also I was thinking that maybe RGM just needs to suck it up and pay for a top CC. Then I looked at some of the CC's that RG has worked with in the past and where they are now. Gil Martin #07 RCR Chevy / 7th in points, Greg Erwin #16 Roush Ford / 8th in points and Kevin Hamlin #83 RB Toyota /16th in points. So maybe its just RG!

Franks temp/permanent? replacement is Walter Giles (Per Lee Spencer at FoxSports). He comes from Marco's Ambrose #59 Busch team. And before that he was with DEI's #1 team as the chief race engineer. So we will see how long he lasts. RG is the new Dale Jarrett as far as CC's go!

Unfortunately you are correct, that is why I am hoping he gets someone that he respects for his CC accomplishments that has some staying power not another first time CC.

[Ryan_P]

More importantly, did you read the last statement?

There has been talk that Gillett would move its racing operation to Gordon's facility in north Charlotte.

"They like the property," Gordon added."

Interesting...

[Chris Tobin]

More importantly, did you read the last statement?

There has been talk that Gillett would move its racing operation to Gordon's facility in north Charlotte.

"They like the property," Gordon added."

Interesting...

I did notice that too, I wonder if this is where the "in the process of selling" comment came from in another article a few days ago...:confused:

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Well RG's land is more desirable and has tons of room for expansion than GEM's current location... Also RG would be better based in a warmer and dryer location ;)

Afterall... Indy cars, Dakar, Score, Corr, WRC and Cup would be better somewhere else. Screw them hillbilies!

[bajafox]

d**m fly, the only reason I even bothered to read this thread after seeing that you posted was because I thought you'd spill the beans on the new CC (did I miss it somewhere if already posted?)

You're banned from this thread until you know the new CC, haha:D

[Tristar Racing]

Ridiculous. Im sorry but this crew chief hire/fire stuff is getting out of hand.

I hope for his own sake Robby nails the crew chief position down before Sonoma, because if he is still dicking around he might waste one of the two golden opportunities to win a race he has each year...

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Don't forget most CC's get taken from RG. By the way... RG is no idiot. He knows what these CCs are doing when they show up for work and where they worked before... Heck.... If RG can go through 3 crew chiefs a year that is a lot of tricks coming through his shop for the price of one... There could also be new technology coming to fruition that RG doesn't want to share right now so he clears out the shop of guys...Who "Don't need to know".... I don't know.... just rambles :0

[michael_loomis]

So by taking Marcos Ambrose's CC... do you think that opens a door for Marcos to drive a second RGM car? hmmm

[alan4s]

So by taking Marcos Ambrose's CC... do you think that opens a door for Marcos to drive a second RGM car? hmmm

I hear that Marcos is very much a Ford man. According to his long-time Aussie fans, he would never drive anything else.

But this is the big time, so anything might happen for the right opportunity I suppose.

[RGFan]

Should have never let Greg Erwin go......Should have gotten him the help he needed

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Bob Temple was the best CC RG ever had.

[NicksTrix]

it's always been a shuffle board since he first showed up, nothing has changed in 11 years. what's been the only consistant thing? hmmm
let's hope this round can get something done.

[Mumzy]

it's always been a shuffle board since he first showed up, nothing has changed in 11 years. what's been the only consistent thing? hmmm
let's hope this round can get something done.

I noticed that the world record for holding your breath was set this week.....David Blaine at 17 minutes 4.4 seconds.........this is about how long any one of us can hold our breath expecting anything to change with RGM -vs- Crew Chiefs.

[Tristar Racing]

Bob Temple was the best CC RG ever had.

Really? Wast that the crew chief that put cars that were missing parts or had items loose on the track to qualify? Back in 2005 I mean. I thought that was the reason he was given the axe.

[woundedyak]

Afterall... Indy cars, Dakar, Score, Corr, WRC and Cup would be better somewhere else. Screw them hillbilies!

Hey! What's wrong with hillbillies?

[NicksTrix]

Really? Wast that the crew chief that put cars that were missing parts or had items loose on the track to qualify? Back in 2005 I mean. I thought that was the reason he was given the axe.


crew chiefs seldom touch the car, that's the fault of the guys working under him performing the task at hand. sure he needs to oversee them, but if the guy has to go check everyting they did why have them around?

"good help isn't cheap and cheap help isn't good"

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Really? Wast that the crew chief that put cars that were missing parts or had items loose on the track to qualify? Back in 2005 I mean. I thought that was the reason he was given the axe.


That was process issues that have now long been resolved.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Keep in mind... Bob Temple is the only crew chief RG has won with in Nascar since 2003.

[michael_loomis]

I noticed that the world record for holding your breath was set this week.....David Blaine at 17 minutes 4.4 seconds.........this is about how long any one of us can hold our breath expecting anything to change with RGM -vs- Crew Chiefs.


Ironically.. that's how long CC's last at RGM!

[Tristar Racing]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIov5M4RiUc&feature=related

Decent interview about Walter and his background.

Anyone want the over/under on his RGM employment?

I'm setting the bar at 10 races, give your thoughts.

[Mumzy]

Aussies have the thickest skin of any people I have ever worked with. They also are very detail oriented and work to be #1.....#2 is not an option.

That being said one would think that he would be a perfect fit at RGM...one problem.
Aussies can't stand cocky personalities.....they have zero patience for what most of us would refer to as a "Cocky Californian".

10 races may be too many........I'll give him four.

[michael_loomis]

Sweet! Mick Dundee is our new crew chief!

"That ain't a knife... THIS.. is a knife!!"

[RGFan]

Keep in mind... Bob Temple is the only crew chief RG has won with in Nascar since 2003.
In the Busch Series.....Two different beasts, especially now. Greg Erwin is the only CC that RG has had in cup that has actually won a cup race as a CC, albeit with a different driver. He also was the CC that RG was most competetive with as a driver/owner......RG said it Saturday on Raceday......He needs to find another Greg Erwin.

[NIKAL]

Now the GM Guzzo is gone. Sounds like he has been gone for a few weeks. Also from what I had gathered in the past he was not liked by many in the shop. So maybe this is a good move for RGM.

(Jayski) More changes at Robby Gordon Motorsports? hearing that General Manager Ed Guzzo and #7 Robby Gordon Motorsports have parted ways recently. Plus been told that RGM is looking for primary sponsorship opportunities on the #7 Dodge for races at Infineon Raceway [expect him to run upfront there] and the Allstate 400 at the Brickyard.

[Offspring]

I heard that a long time ago also, wonder how many left/let go because of him to find out he was the problem

[NIKAL]

Per Robby on the RUR about Guzzo's departure.

There are very talented people already in place to take over these rolls until we find a suitable replacement. If anyone hasn't noticed the performance and speed have improved. Now we just need to make our cars more reliable and get some luck. Whats the chance of debris on the grill during the open last weekend? Our guys responded fast to the water problem by adding to it with the cool down unit behind the wall and not losing a lap. We restarted 26th and passed 15 cars in 20 laps. Things are looking up at RGM

[RGFan]

I heard that a long time ago also, wonder how many left/let go because of him to find out he was the problem

There have been some good ones lost, that is for sure.