Any insight into the Cenni/Greaves deal?

[gmmvp42]

Anybody see first hand what happened to cause the confrontation Saturday? and what about the spotters who had a problem with each other? Has CORR suspended other racers in the last few years?

[1BAJA03]

They're gonna give the details soon on RDC radio.

[Mike @ pit b]

They wanted Cenni to pay a $50,000.00 fine so he could race Sunday. That's what I heard.

[Rory]

Anybody see first hand what happened to cause the confrontation Saturday? and what about the spotters who had a problem with each other? Has CORR suspended other racers in the last few years?

I was there on Saturday, and from what I saw Cenni was leading and got into the catch fence..then kept going (spectators going crazy) then fell out of the race 4 laps later. The race went about another 4-5 laps, Herbst truck caught on fire and they red flagged the race. At the restart, Cenni came back on the track and the crowd went nuts. He fought his way to 3rd truck on the road (but still 6 laps down) and started getting into the leaders like he was going for the win. It was great racing but personally he should not have been driving so agressively against the leaders since he had no way of winning. Bad decision on his part, I'm sure the leaders were pissed, but great for the fans. Thats what I remember, but maybe it's about something else.

[Houston]

50 grand!!! That seems way high. Was Cenni given the blue and yellow flag? Black flag? In addition, CORR should make an announcement about fines and suspensions just like all pro sports.

[mawtrophykart]

I think the fist fight in th epits and eventually wound up at the tree bar was the best action all weekend!

[tinman]

I think the fist fight in th epits and eventually wound up at the tree bar was the best action all weekend!

That's pretty funny seeing how there was no punches thrown!

[tre5]

Instead of recalling rumors and talking about it just to talk about it, why don't we just let the parties involved tell us what happened???? Some of the ones actually involved are members of this forum.

[OffroadExit]

I agree CORR should release an official statement on their decision. I was told CORR would not go on record and say anything but when you are in the pits and see the Cenni/Porter team packing up and hearing all the "buzz" on what happened all weekend you have to report the story.

[4130Clothing]

The wall ride on the fence didn'thave to do with the suspension on sunday did it? I thought it was just the **** that went down in the pits afterwards that made CORR suspend him?? 50 grand though that's ****in ridiculous:eek:

[Mike @ pit b]

Like I said, 50 grand is what I heard. But IF he did pay that amount and drove on Sunday in pro-4 and pro-2 it would have cost arounf $1300 -$1500 a LAP. But this is just what I heard. For that much I would have packed it up early too.

Mike

[tinbender]

The $50,000 is correct. as far as the punches thrown I didn't see any go by me , just a bunch of words and name calling, good old time shouting match with spit flying !

[Shaun_Kite]

The wall ride made my day. Sure he was driving a little agressively but he gave the fans a show!

[fishd00d]

Ryan Lewis (Bonzen) took these pics of the wall ride and posted them on another site.

[Tom_Willis]

Uck fay E may.

He actually left tire marks on the #4 Turn sign. That's a first.

[racechick]

Holy Smacks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mike @ pit b]

New at X games, freestyle trucks.

That's why he's the Wildman!!!

[tre5]

There's a right way and a wrong way to do things and walking your whole crew to someone's pit to beat their ***** after some harsh words in the spotters area is just bad taste. Stuff happens in racing and none of what went on was intentional and just got escalated way out of proportion. There was Corr personel all over and should have forseen and handled things better. The security Corr had on hand just watched and did nothing to diffuse the situation.

That is what I heard. I guess no one involved is going to chime in.
Words between the spotters leads to bad behavior.

[ndvalium]

Uck fay E may.

He actually left tire marks on the #4 Turn sign. That's a first.

They definately build trucks that get serious air.

[tk400's cuz]

Anybody see first hand what happened to cause the confrontation Saturday? and what about the spotters who had a problem with each other? Has CORR suspended other racers in the last few years?

i was right in front of them while they were fighting
When cenni came back out jonny greaves spotter told cennis spotter to tell him "not to be a dumb ass".so cenni said "f u"...it looked like greeves spotter was going to push cennis spotter over the spotting rail

[TROPHYSEDAN]

It looks even wilder on TV.

[4130Clothing]

So who's got the footage to post up of the fence ride Cenni pulled off? I saw it on a couple cameras up in the stands on Saturday somone needs to throw it on here!

[Big Hock]

The race airs on Speed Channel this Saturday, I'm assumming they got it.

[ryant35]

The race airs on Speed Channel this Saturday, I'm assumming they got it.

That sucks for those of use who's cable system includes speed channel in an expensive package with a bunch of other crappy channels. Hopefully it will be on NBC too.

[gerry66]

Is there any video on the crash & altercation?? Been busy & didn't get a chance to watch the race. Gerry

[OffroadExit]

Dirtnewz caught video of the altercation but I dont think they are posting it. Link to the altercation story: http://www.dirtnewz.com/events-08/corr2-primm/cenni.shtml

[glamisduneripper]

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Adrian Cenni Suspended from Racing Action Due to Saturday Post Race Pushing Match with Curt Greaves

Monster Energy/Greaves Motorsports Crew Chief & Spotter Curt Greaves & ROCKSTAR/Terrible Herbst Spotter for Troy Herbst Jared Cooper ALSO Suspended for Sunday's CORR Round 4 Racing Action
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PRIMM, Nev —CORR Officials announced here trackside that Adrian Cenni is suspended from racing action in Round 4 today at the Las Vegas International Raceway at Primm.

Cenni was involved in a post-race pushing match with Monster Energy's Crew Chief - Curt Greaves at the Monster Energy pit nearly four hours after a racing incident occurred during Round 3 of the 2008 CORR Series in Las Vegas.

CORR Communications Manager - Katie Bosler confirmed to DIRTnewz Editor-in-Chief, Brittany Sanchez, that the suspensions were effectively immediately and Adrian Cenni would not race in either the Pro 2 or the Pro 4 race during Round 4.

Bosler also announced that Monster Energy / Greaves Motorsports Crew Chief, Curt Greaves and Rockstar / Terrible Herbst Spotter for Troy Herbst, Jared Cooper, were also suspended for today's Round 4 racing action.

The suspension of the Curt Greaves and Jared Cooper stem from a heated exchange between them and Mark Porter and his wife during the Pro 4 contested race.

The suspension of Adrian Cenni will certainly affect Porter/Cenni Racing as they will lose all important Round 4 points and a chance to put the blaze orange Pro 2 and Pro 4 on the podium in Sunday's finale. The Porter/Cenni Racing suspension will hurt them more than it will hurt Greaves Motorsports and Terrible Herbst's Motorsports who have already selected replacements for both spotters.

[tre5]

What I don't understand is the 3-4 laps down. Was it 3, or was it 4? Was the sequence of events... hot pit visit, red flagging due to herbst, cenni's rentry to the course, race restart enough to confuse people of how many laps down cenni actually was? What if cenni's team thought that he was still on the lead lap? I wasn't there, so I don't know. I am just typing out loud. It seems that there was some confussion about how many laps down he was, so maybe he thought he was still in it. Then again, reguardless of the race result, insults between racers probably happen every race. I think when you involve family members it would be considered crossing the line. However, it is also probably crossing the line when you get into pushing matches. Sounds like Jim Baldwin is a busy man.

[PORTER TT#22]

your a smart man. I did and Adrian also thought he was invited back onto the track on the lead lap, of course at the tail end. This is racing, and when your in the race truck and you are told to hurry up and get in line, should he go for it or pulloff and give-up.....your answer is probably the same as our's.
Thanks,
Mark Porter
Partner
Cenni and Porter

[pdailey]

I don't buy the "I thought we were on the lead lap" excuse. You guys were in the hot pits for a while while the race was going on without you. You guys went into the hot pits on lap 7 and returned to the track on lap 14. At what point do you think you were still on the lead lap???

[tinman]

Adrian got out of the truck and was walking back to the pits while the race was going! I know,I was standing right there in the hot pits. The plug for the fuel pump unclipped. They had to rush him back to the hot pit to get back in the truck! No doubt atleast 3 laps down!

[JBofSD]

I have to agree with Pat....with the trucks running 53 second laps....just getting out of the truck he would be a lap or 2 down.....and as the spotter Mark, you had to know he was more than a lap back.

[TCPRacing]

Things are clear as mud after hearing Cenni on the radio show. The only thing that got any clearer was that Douglas is also not real happy with Cenni's driving.
I want the two hours I spent listening to the show back please. Can I get a rebate?

[gmmvp42]

I know Douglas and Cenni didn't agree who had the the 1st turn at Crandon last year(don't remember WSORR spring/labor day), did Cenni do something before he was passed by Douglass this time too? Was the suspension Cenni received for his driving up the fence on Sat. or was it a combination of past events? I am curious what draws a suspension now.

[EdgeHost]

Adrian was late calling in and obviously wouldn't answer too far into the ongoing situation and we had to get MArtin (The next guest) due to come up..One of those times you wish there was an extra hour as thing were getting good but wat was wrong with Steve Sourapas & MArtin Christensen? I thought they were great! I will only give you back 1/4 of your ticket price wich is oh ya, FREE! LOL 1/4 of nothing is nothing! Wished he would get more into it too.Had a call into Greaves also but didn't want to get into it any further.

[desertbull]

your a smart man. I did and Adrian also thought he was invited back onto the track on the lead lap, of course at the tail end. This is racing, and when your in the race truck and you are told to hurry up and get in line, should he go for it or pulloff and give-up.....your answer is probably the same as our's.
Thanks,
Mark Porter
Partner
Cenni and Porter

Only Jerry French-Cenni/Porter Racing Crew Chief Spotter, Mark Porter and Adrian will ever really know the truth to that question regarding the lead lap or not...IMHO everything else about that (the lead lap theory) is speculation on what "they" thought---which means nada at this point because they all have agreed and told the public what Porter/Cenni Racing thought...and you can guarantee that that particular aspect of the story will never change...just for the plain facts that it can't now.

What about you (Mark Porter) bringing in Vegas Metro PD on Sunday on behalf of your crew chief, Jerry French, to arrest Jim Baldwin for grabbing (assualt & battery) Jerry French in the spotter's area during Saturday's Pro 4 event. I spoke with both you and Jerry on Saturday evening at the Tree Bar and Jerry was a-okay on Saturday night drinking a beer whlle we talked about the incident. Jerry didn't seem fazed by the incident other than he told us that he worked 181 hours before this race on both of the race trucks and if your team got suspended on Sunday morning he was quitting.

My question is "Was calling in Vegas Metro PD to investigate and arrest Jim Baldwin, a reaction to the team suspension or was your crew chief Jerry French actually wanting and asking for Jim Baldwin to be investigated and arrested for this incident between Jim and Jerry French in the spotter's area?

Also, today (Wednesday) at the Newport Beach CORR offices, Jim Baldwin was allegedly served civil lawsuit papers from Mark Porter - Cenni/Porter Racing. Mark, would you provide the details of the civil lawsuit? Is it for Cenni/Porter Racing to be force via an injunction order to be allowed to race at Pomona while this situation goes through the court process...or are you suing CORR for damages incurred due to missing races, the alleged assault/battery, ... tough questions but the world wants to know.

Mark-Let's us know what's up...

[pdailey]

Only Jerry French-Cenni/Porter Racing Crew Chief Spotter, Mark Porter and Adrian will ever really know the truth to that question regarding the lead lap or not...IMHO everything else about that (the lead lap theory) is speculation on what "they" thought---which means nada at this point because they all have agreed and told the public what Porter/Cenni Racing thought...and you can guarantee that that particular aspect of the story will never change...just for the plain facts that it can't now.

What about you (Mark Porter) bringing in Vegas Metro PD on Sunday on behalf of your crew chief, Jerry French, to arrest Jim Baldwin for grabbing (assualt & battery) Jerry French in the spotter's area during Saturday's Pro 4 event. I spoke with both you and Jerry on Saturday evening at the Tree Bar and Jerry was a-okay on Saturday night drinking a beer whlle we talked about the incident. Jerry didn't seem fazed by the incident other than he told us that he worked 181 hours before this race on both of the race trucks and if your team got suspended on Sunday morning he was quitting.

My question is "Was calling in Vegas Metro PD to investigate and arrest Jim Baldwin, a reaction to the team suspension or was your crew chief Jerry French actually wanting and asking for Jim Baldwin to be investigated and arrested for this incident between Jim and Jerry French in the spotter's area?

Also, today (Wednesday) at the Newport Beach CORR offices, Jim Baldwin was allegedly served civil lawsuit papers from Mark Porter - Cenni/Porter Racing. Mark, would you provide the details of the civil lawsuit? Is it for Cenni/Porter Racing to be force via an injunction order to be allowed to race at Pomona while this situation goes through the court process...or are you suing CORR for damages incurred due to missing races, the alleged assault/battery, ... tough questions but the world wants to know.

Mark-Let's us know what's up...

I'm glad you brought this up Tim. Now lets hear some real answers. I personally hope that Cenni doesn't come back. He is a menace on and off the track. Nobody respects him and why would he want to race where he is obviously not welcome??

[pdailey]

Adrian was late calling in and obviously wouldn't answer too far into the ongoing situation and we had to get MArtin (The next guest) due to come up..One of those times you wish there was an extra hour as thing were getting good but wat was wrong with Steve Sourapas & MArtin Christensen? I thought they were great! I will only give you back 1/4 of your ticket price wich is oh ya, FREE! LOL 1/4 of nothing is nothing! Wished he would get more into it too.Had a call into Greaves also but didn't want to get into it any further.

Bummer that we didn't get into this any longer. I was the one who called in and reminded him that he could have easily went over the fence and killed people. He just irks me for some reason.

[dezerts10]

I'm glad you brought this up Tim. Now lets hear some real answers. I personally hope that Cenni doesn't come back. He is a menace on and off the track. Nobody respects him and why would he want to race where he is obviously not welcome??

care to elaborate? how or why did the fence ride happen? how is he a menace on and off the track? as a fan its rad to see people putting it all ont he line. race where hes not welcome by who? the drivers who fear the competition cause as a fan i love watching him.

Gregg

[pdailey]

care to elaborate? how or why did the fence ride happen? how is he a menace on and off the track? as a fan its rad to see people putting it all ont he line. race where hes not welcome by who? the drivers who fear the competition cause as a fan i love watching him.

Gregg

Read dezertbull's post and ask yourself if you think that he will be welcomed back to CORR

[dezerts10]

just cause he filed a civil suite against baldwin? sure its kinda BS but I also dont ubnderstand why he was suspended and i would venture to say they dont understand either that is why they filed the civil suite. sounds to me like he(they)were trying to prove a point. I was not there did not see anything just what i have read. just cause there was an off the track incident that does not warrent being suspended.

also ya i could see how CORR and the baldwins would not want him back but there are probably plenty or racers in this world who race with promotors who wish they did not return. but in the end they probably dont care cause that racer is putting money in their pocket

what happend?

Gregg

[pdailey]

just cause he filed a civil suite against baldwin? sure its kinda BS but I also dont ubnderstand why he was suspended and i would venture to say they dont understand either that is why they filed the civil suite. sounds to me like he(they)were trying to prove a point. I was not there did not see anything just what i have read. just cause there was an off the track incident that does not warrent being suspended.

also ya i could see how CORR and the baldwins would not want him back but there are probably plenty or racers in this world who race with promotors who wish they did not return. but in the end they probably dont care cause that racer is putting money in their pocket

what happend?

Gregg

He was suspended beacuse he shoved Curt Greaves to the ground after the race. That is the reason for the suspension. It had nothing to do with the lame fence climb.

[dezerts10]

He was suspended beacuse he became physical with Curt Greaves after the race. That is the reason for the suspension. It had nothing to do with the lame fence climb.

on or off the track? in the hotel? if so thats not a good reason at all that is "off the clock" so to speak. if there was a problem LV metro should have been involved. not CORR. Did the guy who punched pistol opete at the 1000 last year get told he could not race again?

Gregg

[westhoffmotorsports]

You and many people like Adrian Cenni and he is a super star in the Corr series,
He welcomes everyone to our pits and honestly, he loves the people and the crowds. He never talks down about anyone and he by far is the "most friendly" racer in Corr, at least one of several "Top" guys.He will drop whatever he is doing to talk and give you his time.Their will always be people who do not like people in Racing,but that is not our style.Imagine this, Adrian autographed posters non-stop until dark after Saturdays race.

Why did you only quote this???? what about all the other stuff that Desertbull asked??? There must be something going on because even on TORR tonight Cenni wouldnt say anything... Unless something comes out of your mouth I am going to assume that what desertbull said is completely true.

WOW!!!

[pdailey]

on or off the track? in the hotel? if so thats not a good reason at all that is "off the clock" so to speak. if there was a problem LV metro should have been involved. not CORR. Did the guy who punched pistol opete at the 1000 last year get told he could not race again?

Gregg

This happened at Greaves pit area a couple of hours after the race. I think that warrants being ejected. You do not. Let's leave it at that and agree to disagree. This will all unfold shortly I'm sure.:D

[pdailey]

Why did you only quote this???? what about all the other stuff that Desertbull asked??? There must be something going on because even on TORR tonight Cenni wouldnt say anything... Unless something comes out of your mouth I am going to assume that what desertbull said is completely true.

WOW!!!

AMEN to that!!!

[dezerts10]

This happened at Greaves pit area a couple of hours after the race. I think that warrants being ejected. You do not. Let's leave it at that and agree to disagree. This will all unfold shortly I'm sure.:D

since it happend at the track he deserved something. but i still think not allowing the racer to race the next day is a little harsh. thats just my opinion even nascar is not that harsh.

Gregg

[Bill]

This is what more money in the sport brings with it!More drama

[Chris Tobin]

since it happend at the track he deserved something. but i still think not allowing the racer to race the next day is a little harsh. thats just my opinion even nascar is not that harsh.

Gregg

NASCAR is that harsh just ask Kevin Harvick and Robby Gordon, they were both suspended from a Cup series race for incedents that happened in or after a Busch series race!

[brown_e]

First off, it's the nature of the beast to become upset and argue. What's wrong w/ a fight? Which to most people’s knowledge didn't happen. I don't see this being the issue.
Nascar became what it was from it's first live telecast between Cale Yarborough (sp) and the Allison brothers. That is awesome! It is great to see confrontation, cuz it brings out the true characters of the parties involved. I'm sorry, but if I was leading or racing for the lead and a lapped marker took me out, let me tell you! I would be pissed and wouldn't be afraid to speak my mind or even throw down due to the fact (depending on the situation). I don't see what the problem is with that. I don't believe any punches were thrown, so where's the foul. Just because somebody was grabbed, pushed or threatened. Give me a break! I don't care for the politically correct pu$$y's of Nascar. We might have to contact Dana White at UFC and set up to cross promote some fights between racers so suits to fly rampant in CORR.

[TCPRacing]

First off, it's the nature of the beast to become upset and argue. What's wrong w/ a fight? Which to most people’s knowledge didn't happen. I don't see this being the issue.
Nascar became what it was from it's first live telecast between Cale Yarborough (sp) and the Allison brothers. That is awesome! It is great to see confrontation, cuz it brings out the true characters of the parties involved. I'm sorry, but if I was leading or racing for the lead and a lapped marker took me out, let me tell you! I would be pissed and wouldn't be afraid to speak my mind or even throw down due to the fact (depending on the situation). I don't see what the problem is with that. I don't believe any punches were thrown, so where's the foul. Just because somebody was grabbed, pushed or threatened. Give me a break! I don't care for the politically correct pu$'s of Nascar. We might have to contact Dana White at UFC and set up to cross promote some fights between racers so suits to fly rampant in CORR.


When you call Dana White, don't forget about Pistol Pete vs Steve Naughton.

[fishd00d]

You guys really think that if there is a lawsuit the people involved are going to give you details about it right now?

[pdailey]

When you call Dana White, don't forget about Pistol Pete vs Steve Naughton.

That a boy Joel, keep stirring the turd. HAHA

[baja619]

Not commenting on an incident where a lawsuit is currently pending, That has never happened before




Greaves is the golden boy of shortcourse. Adrian is the outta control wildman.

Johnny has way more friends and connections.

Adrian is just and exciting all out driver who puts it on the line every time out.

I wonder who the promoters are going to favor.
It suks for Cenni/Porter, most seem like their hands are tied and everyone has it out for them.

Scott Douglas has had a vendetta against Cenni since last years Crandon Race for reasons that were not Adrians fault IMO. Anyone that saw Scotts terrible wreck in turn1 of lap 1 on TV, Saw that Adrian got slammed from the inside and sent Douglas flying out of the corner.


it is plain obvious Pdailey is hugely biased.

[AZ45]

What's the rule on driving on the K rails?

Was Cenni going to hurt anyone but himself?

This deal doesn't add up, who cares if he broke his truck driving like a wild man. I don't think there should be a penalty if there was not a rule broken. If CORR let him back on the track 4 laps down and he was driving around for some sort of points advantage, then it should be ok. If he got in anyones way that was on the lead lap, that's a typical yelling/pushing in the pits deal between the drivers or spotters with in a few minutes of the end of the race.

If the deal lasted until midnight, then I bet there's more to it. I bet dessertbull and MarkP are being PC on RDC and we'll never know what really happened.

I bet there's a girl involved!

1+1=3

[tre5]

What's the rule on driving on the K rails?

Was Cenni going to hurt anyone but himself?

This deal doesn't add up, who cares if he broke his truck driving like a wild man. I don't think there should be a penalty if there was not a rule broken. If CORR let him back on the track 4 laps down and he was driving around for some sort of points advantage, then it should be ok. If he got in anyones way that was on the lead lap, that's a typical yelling/pushing in the pits deal between the drivers or spotters with in a few minutes of the end of the race.

If the deal lasted until midnight, then I bet there's more to it. I bet dessertbull and MarkP are being PC on RDC and we'll never know what really happened.

I bet there's a girl involved!

1+1=3


The penalty was givin due to the incidents that occured after the race. It was not based on the wall ride.

You bet there was a girl involved? Read the article....

"It didn't stop there as Curt Greaves was confronted by Mark Porter at the Greaves pit area. Porter, visibly upset and yelling at both Curt Greaves and Monster Energy's Joe Parsons, the primary sponsor of Greaves Motorsports, about comments made to various team and family members by the the Greaves crew chief. Apparently, Porter's wife became embroiled in the verbal altercation from the onset and descriptive words flew back and forth between each team. Team members from Cenni/Porter Racing chided and challenged team members from Greaves Motorsports."

That was just part of it.

[pdailey]

it is plain obvious Pdailey is hugely biased.


Your right I am biased. I am a Greaves team member and when Porter brings all his guys over who just want to fight, then I get a little angry about the situation. The situation probably would not have escalated as bad as it did if all of Cenni's guys didn't come over to our pits looking for a fight. In all fairness to Mark Porter, he was attempting to work it out with Curt but it was all his crew members that made the situation escalate by shooting their mouths off.

Also, this isn't Cenni's first run in with trouble. Ask Cenni about why he was suspended from CORR in 2001 and put on probation the rest of the year. He was really coming around with his driving talent at the end of last year but something must have happened over the winter because he has definately reverted back to his old ways.

[Ziggy]

Wreckin's racing.Cenni has got more money than brains.
The driver, right or wrong is always responsible for the actions of his crew.
Never good to confront someone in the heat of the moment.That is why there is a process to protest.Does it work?Not usually.Someone always gets screwed.Thats life.All the women getting involved is pure passion.I love it.

It sure`is dramatic for the fans.Its an addiction and neither Porter or Cenni can quit.
Just more drama.
GOT MUD?

[Ziggy]

Oh and I forgot,Johnny Greaves ROCKS.The next American Idol.:D

[spalind]

Anyone else hear the Cenni interview on TORR this week?? Scott Douglas called in during the interview and they were going at it tooth and nail over the airwaves...It was GREAT!! Cenni also said that as of right now he will not be racing in CORR during the remainder of the year...

[pdailey]

Anyone else hear the Cenni interview on TORR this week?? Scott Douglas called in during the interview and they were going at it tooth and nail over the airwaves...It was GREAT!! Cenni also said that as of right now he will not be racing in CORR during the remainder of the year...

Good riddance...

[spalind]

Good riddance...

Come on...every sport needs its "black hat" in order to give people something to root for/against..

[pdailey]

Come on...every sport needs its "black hat" in order to give people something to root for/against..

HAHA you got me there. This is like Hulk Hogan vs. The Iron Sheik. LOL

[spalind]

HAHA you got me there. This is like Hulk Hogan vs. The Iron Sheik. LOL

Thats kinda how I see it...as long as Cenni doesn't put any spectators in danger (there could be some debate as to that from this past weekend) then anything he does ON the track is fair game...its racing, not tiddlywinks...if he pisses off a sufficient # of fellow racers, well, there's more than one way to handle that ON TRACK...

[NittoTim]

Just check the video and make sure you buy your tickets for Pomona.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoPisO0Bqkw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoPisO0Bqkw

[pdailey]

Just check the video and make sure you buy your tickets for Pomona.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoPisO0Bqkw

Won't matter. $10 says Cenni won't be there.

[CaptinCrash]

Thats a real bummer if Cenni isn't going to race the rest of the season hes one of the best to watch

[22REKid]

I didn't really want to comment on this situation but I definantly don't buy into the excuses that the Cenni team made. IMO CORR had every right to fine him for his and his crews actions. It was extremely unprofessional. Cenni is a loose cannon on the course and now apperently off the course too. Johnny Greaves is probably the cleanest driver in shortcourse racing while Cenni is sloppy (fast, but sloppy). I hope Cenni never comes back to CORR. Guys like that make CORR look bad. I'm sure Cenni is a flatbiller hero now though.

[Chris_Wilson]

Don't care about the off-track antics nor the politics but I do know that Cenni on the track makes my ticket price seem worth it.

CORR needs Cenni more than he needs CORR. He sells tickets. Banning him would be almost as dumb as when SODA banned Rob Mac's truck.

Just the view from an uninformed paying spectator...

[22REKid]

Don't care about the off-track antics nor the politics but I do know that Cenni on the track makes my ticket price seem worth it.

CORR needs Cenni more than he needs CORR. He sells tickets. Banning him would be almost as dumb as when SODA banned Rob Mac's truck.

Just the view from an uninformed paying spectator...

I'm sure CORR will do just fine without Cenni. While out of control driving is entertaining to watch, I would rather pay to watch skilled drivers drive a clean race and still be faster than the bonehead who as stated earlier "has more money than brains". I bet most Johnny Greaves fans would be disappointed in him if he did half of the shenanigans that Cenni does. People would think, "Man, I thought Johnny was better than that".

[TCPRacing]

Last year Cenni was a hero, this week you would think he was Satan. And my bet is that he is more talented, cooler and has more sack than most anyone on this thread. I don't even think any of us know how much he actually had to do with any of this mess. Some people on the Cenni/Porter team certainly seem to have made some bad decisions, but give a guy a break and maybe don't jump to conclusions based on hear say. And don't forget that Porter is part of the RDC family as well.

I'm not saying what happened was good or responsible, just don't be so fast to throw someone under the bus.

Pro lite #21

[HUBBARD]

Tempers flare people disagree and even sometimes fight. It’s what you do after that determines who you are. "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone" John chapter 8 verse 7. I for one hope to see Cenni and Porter racing at the next race.

[Kartman]

I don't even think any of us know how much he actually had to do with any of this mess. Some people on the Cenni/Porter team certainly seem to have made some bad decisions1

The problem is that the driver is ultimately responsible for his entire team.

[Phazer399@hotmail.com]

Don't care about the off-track antics nor the politics but I do know that Cenni on the track makes my ticket price seem worth it.

CORR needs Cenni more than he needs CORR. He sells tickets. Banning him would be almost as dumb as when SODA banned Rob Mac's truck.

Just the view from an uninformed paying spectator...

fwiw, that wasn't the driver's association that did that. That was CORR during the Marty Reid era. Point well taken. Dumb, move.

[TCPRacing]

The problem is that the driver is ultimately responsible for his entire team.

I'm not trying to defend anyone. I just think it is funny that over the past 6 months or so, Cenni has been all over this website. Everyone loved talking about his big crash, then they could not get enough of him entering pro-2 in Porters truck, then testing videos, then the wall ride. Oh ya, the time he almost won a race but got blocked by a lapper on the last lap. Not one time did anyone say he was a bad driver. Now all of a sudden people are on here saying that he can't drive and that all he has is money and no talent. I just think it is funny, or sad maybe, how fast the tide turns.
Hero to zero faster than a pro 4 into the first turn.

pro lite #21

[pdailey]

Last year Cenni was a hero, this week you would think he was Satan. And my bet is that he is more talented, cooler and has more sack than most anyone on this thread. I don't even think any of us know how much he actually had to do with any of this mess. Some people on the Cenni/Porter team certainly seem to have made some bad decisions, but give a guy a break and maybe don't jump to conclusions based on hear say. And don't forget that Porter is part of the RDC family as well.

I'm not saying what happened was good or responsible, just don't be so fast to throw someone under the bus.

Pro lite #21

I do know that he had a lot to do with this mess. Him coming over and shoving Curt hours after the race was pretty low. That situation had nothing to do with him. That was between Porter and Curt Greaves. And then when I heard him on the TORR radio show patting himself on the back and giving himself high fives for his fence "SAVE" and saying CORR needs to use that to promote the series, that even irked me more. The catch fence deserves all the credit for his "SAVE", it had nothing to do with skill or talent. It was pure dumb luck. He should be thanking his lucky stars that he didn't kill anyone. The Gear One trailer was right over that fence as well as the Baja videogame simulation. The only reason he kept the lead when he came down off the fence was because the "real" talented drivers behind him lifted so they wouldn't get caught up in his mess.

[JoeDirrt]

“Cenni has got more money than brains.”

WOW! Looks like him and Jim Baldwin have something in common! I would also venture to say that it is a shared passion that drives each man to spend their money in/on CORR. Regardless… people… the problem here isn’t Porter/Cenni, its CORR! The claim that Porter/Cenni are not living up to some level of professionalism is a bunch of crapola. A driver may ultimately be responsible for his team, but Jim Baldwin is ultimately responsible for CORR. Considering Jim Baldwin damn near killed himself to get down to the spotter’s stand and assault Cenni’s spotter, Jerry French, establishes the level of professionalism CORR operates at. And where in the hell was the race director, Tony Vanillo, during all this? Hiding behind his wife? I guess Tony sets the standard that allowed Porter’s wife to be in (or close enough to) the spotter’s stand to cause the distraction that ultimately led to Cenni assaulting Curt Greaves. Why wasn’t Tony in control of the situation? The spotter’s have radios specifically to hear the race director. Tony should have known what lap Cenni was on and should have given Cenni’s spotter this information along with instructions to pass along to Cenni to avoid the leaders. But Cenni couldn’t have heard this anyway because he was not wearing his ear buds (a.k.a. head phones) since he was in such a rush to get back in his truck and therefore had no radio communication! The tech director should have never allowed him back on the track in the first place! And were they working on Cenni’s truck during the red flag… automatic DQ? Regardless, all of that plus observing Cenni was making boneheaded moves, Tony should have black flagged him. The Herbst spotter should have approached Tony with his concerns instead of directly addressing Cenni’s spotter, but I guess I can understand why he didn’t. Tony is not in control. And it seems Jim Baldwin isn’t either, considering his actions. The precedent was set by Jim Baldwin on how to handle one’s self in his sandbox called CORR. That level of, what some refer to as, “professionalism” was met accordingly by Porter/Cenni after the race was finished. Therefore, it’s difficult to see how CORR can justify fining/suspending and blaming Cenni. Maybe Jim should go look in the mirror, clean up his own act, employ some competent personnel, and allow them to set and enforce a standard of professionalism that will actually take CORR to the next level (as well as bring him some return on his investment). Porter has every right to file a lawsuit, regardless of his reasons. Last I checked, this is America and anyone can sue anyone. Just like anyone can write stories or run around with a video camera looking for opportunities to exploit people and situations for their website. Wonder how many people in the crowded stands saw Jim assault Jerry or if any of the national TV cameras caught the action? Porter could have a legitimate claim to damages, Jerry has a legitimate claim to assault, and maybe CORR will settle out of court or just do the right thing and let Cenni race again.

[Kartman]

I'm not trying to defend anyone. I just think it is funny that over the past 6 months or so, Cenni has been all over this website. Everyone loved talking about his big crash, then they could not get enough of him entering pro-2 in Porters truck, then testing videos, then the wall ride. Oh ya, the time he almost won a race but got blocked by a lapper on the last lap. Not one time did anyone say he was a bad driver. Now all of a sudden people are on here saying that he can't drive and that all he has is money and no talent. I just think it is funny, or sad maybe, how fast the tide turns.
Hero to zero faster than a pro 4 into the first turn.

pro lite #21I dont care who did what personally, I was just addressing your remark that it was the crew not cenni.

[little bart]

Well I don't know if anyone else thinks this, but this just makes the season a whole lot more exciting. Now there is more emotion and a storyline in each race. Like a good show on TV, your waiting to see what happens next week.

[Chris_Wilson]

Well I don't know if anyone else thinks this, but this just makes the season a whole lot more exciting. Now there is more emotion and a storyline in each race. Like a good show on TV, your waiting to see what happens next week.

Exactly, it's just entertainment. And Cenni is a big part of the show.

[Sir Prize]

One thing that nobody said anything about so far was that before the race even started, Tony told the drivers in no uncertain terms to stay off the wall. The prolites were using it as berm in the previous race and the K-rail was supposedly moving. He said riding the wall would be an instant black flag. I guess he didn't black flag Cenni because it didn't look intentional. But I could easily understand Jim getting all over Cenni's spotters case if he thought Cenni was going to kill someone. That guy was the communication link to Cenni and he wanted to make sure that Cenni didn't do it again. Thats not a very good case for assault because the intent wasn't to hurt him just to make sure he had his attention. A good case for assault would be when Cenni pushed down Curt, but he's not a weenie and he didn't call the cops.

As far as Cenni getting back on the track and interfering with people racing for position, he's either an inconsiderate jerk or, if he thought he was still on the lead lap, really stupid. He can't win that one, both options are bad.

[Big Hock]

Exactly, it's just entertainment. And Cenni is a big part of the show.

I agree, and to "kill off his character" like that is a bad idea.

Also, I like how everyone refers to the wall ride like he did it on purpose. His truck pushed up into the wall, and since it's 4-wheel drive the right front grabbed the fence and pulled the truck straight up. It wasn't a "bonehead manuever" or anything like that, just a freak occurrence.

[Bryan_Harrold]

I'm not trying to defend anyone. I just think it is funny that over the past 6 months or so, Cenni has been all over this website. Everyone loved talking about his big crash, then they could not get enough of him entering pro-2 in Porters truck, then testing videos, then the wall ride. Oh ya, the time he almost won a race but got blocked by a lapper on the last lap. Not one time did anyone say he was a bad driver. Now all of a sudden people are on here saying that he can't drive and that all he has is money and no talent. I just think it is funny, or sad maybe, how fast the tide turns.
Hero to zero faster than a pro 4 into the first turn.

pro lite #21

I dont want to debate any of the drama, but I thought this was a good point. Don't think Cenni is a bad driver because he's definitely one of the fastest guys out there, maybe just a little bit on the wilder side...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/yourbigdaddy/801379000_51c8b6b778.jpg
That was some of the best racing I have ever seen with the man, Johnny Greaves. When I brought this print to a race a while back to have Johnny and Adrian sign it, Adrian was a super cool guy (and so was Johnny of course).

[DA Rhino]

I dont want to debate any of the drama, but I thought this was a good point. Don't think Cenni is a bad driver because he's definitely one of the fastest guys out there, maybe just a little bit on the wilder side...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/yourbigdaddy/801379000_51c8b6b778.jpg
That was some of the best racing I have ever seen with the man, Johnny Greaves. When I brought this print to a race a while back to have Johnny and Adrian sign it, Adrian was a super cool guy (and so was Johnny of course).


Let's just state the facts;;) In the (4) laps Adrian was in the race, he had the 2nd fastest lap time of all racers behing Kyle Leduc 57.323 Adrain Cenni 57.547 he must be doing something right.:rolleyes:

Exposure is good for CORR whether good or bad!:rolleyes::D

Look people are still talking about it!:eek::D


DAR:cool:

[Kritter]

Cenni is willing to take risks and take other people out with no remorse...when he can pull it off, hes fast but its not consistent.

[TCPRacing]

Wow...That wall ride was great.

[DanDan]

Wow...That wall ride was great.

It didn't take CORR very long to include it in their commercial.

[little bart]

Heh they use this stunt that they got mad about as a ticket seller. If I was corr I would be begging Cenni to come back and race the rest of the season. Just throw a few bodyguards around the greaves trailer and they are set:)

[DanDan]

OK, I've seen the ride on the chaiinlink 4 times now and I don't see anything too abnormal. I was in the pits up around turn 3. We were talking about the krails being ramps with the all the dirt piled up in front of them. There were several guys using the cushion that ended up way out by the rail. If CORR doesn't want the krails used as berms, they need to blade the cushion off of them.

[Ziggy]

There was no doubt by the TV that Cenni was 4-5 laps down.Looks like Cenni raced hard and clean after the mandatory yellow.Helluva ride on the wall.

[pdailey]

If CORR doesn't want the krails used as berms, they need to blade the cushion off of them.

Or tell the drivers not to use them as berms before the race. Oh wait, CORR did tell the drivers not to use them as berms. HMMMMM:rolleyes:

[Volkspower Racing]

Or tell the drivers not to use them as berms before the race. Oh wait, CORR did tell the drivers not to use them as berms. HMMMMM:rolleyes:

Not untill the drivers meeting on Sunday

[Kritter]

Not untill the drivers meeting on Sunday

Saturday after the prolites started using them friday.

[Pro2-54]

Saturday after the prolites started using them friday.

No, CORR did not tell us to stay off the K rails until the Sunday morning drivers meeting. After Cenni got into the fence. The K rail was the best line around that corner though. Cenni simply caught a rut and it threw him into the fence, could have happened to any of us using that line. As far as what caused all the issues, I did not catch anything on the Speed show Saturday.
I for one fully respect and appreciate both Greaves and Cenni and what they bring to the sport. Like Cenni's driving or not (and I know nothing about the post race incident and will not comment on it) Cenni is one of the most down to earth honest people I have ever met. My guess is most of the anti Cenni comments are from people who do not know the man very well.
He is without a doubt one of the most exciting drivers to watch and the ticket buying fan loves to watch him. I know I do.
Rob

[hiredgun]

I have to agree with Robert, I have worked with Mark Porter through the desert racing and CORR, and have had the privledge to meet Cenni. Both are good people, although French is a bit of a hot head, it doesn't surprise me that there was an altercation between him and other race team members. As far as going to Greaves pit for a fight, that was wrong. Cool down with water, not beer.

To forgive is devine, lets go racing and forget about what hapeened on the track. Im sure CORR is trying to make an example out of the CENNI/PORTER team. The law suit is crap no matter how it turns out Cenni/Porter may never return. Mabye they will start a new short corse division with all that money you all speek of, That would be cool!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pro2-54]

Last year at Primm during the Baldwin cup, a well known Pro 4 driver drove up the K rail and tore down the fence. Anyone remember who it was? I was lucky, the hour long repair gave us enough time to fix the truck and make the Prolite main. Looks like CORR should have warned us before Sunday since fence grinds are nothing new.

[XMOTORCR]

Last year at Primm during the Baldwin cup, a well known Pro 4 driver drove up the K rail and tore down the fence. Anyone remember who it was? I was lucky, the hour long repair gave us enough time to fix the truck and make the Prolite main. Looks like CORR should have warned us before Sunday since fence grinds are nothing new.

now rob you can't lable the photo then ask "who did this" JK see you at pomona and don't forget plenty of water this time.

[baja619]

The problem is that the driver is ultimately responsible for his entire team.

not in nascar, and that is a pinnacle in motorsports.

[pappawheely]

not in nascar, and that is a pinnacle in motorsports.

CORR is racing, Nascar has become marketing.

[22REKid]

Last year at Primm during the Baldwin cup, a well known Pro 4 driver drove up the K rail and tore down the fence. Anyone remember who it was?

I don't really think most people are debating weather Cenni was the first person to ever grind a fence, more of a moral and professionalism debate weather or not Cenni and crew had good reason to start a confrontation in the Greaves pit hours after the on-track incident. Which the general consensus is that the answer is NO he shouldn't have crossed that line.

On a side note, I also remember some dirty driving by another well known Pro 4 racer at the Baldwin Cup. Anyone remember who it was? He drives for Lucas Oil if that helps.

[tre5]

Off topic, but why hasn't the Lucas oil driver changed to a ford body? the decals look rediculous on the nissan body.

[ryant35]

Off topic, but why hasn't the Lucas oil driver changed to a ford body? the decals look rediculous on the nissan body.

That's Carl Renezeder he changed because Nissan backed out of American motor sports as a sponsor.

[ryant35]

Off topic, but why hasn't the Lucas oil driver changed to a ford body? the decals look rediculous on the nissan body.

He is still running the Nissan rear fenders and apparently CORR doesn't like it but I'm sure it is a significant investment to replace all the spares they probably have.

[Bill]

Art schmit Also rode the fence rolled lost every body panel and went on to finish second a couple years ago at Chula Vista.But like I said earlier tis is what big money is going to bring to the sport with it.It will no longer be about racing now it will be all about the show.

[jamminjeff10]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kartman
The problem is that the driver is ultimately responsible for his entire team.

not in nascar, and that is a pinnacle in motorsports.

According to the CORR 2008 Rule Book,

9-4 Driver, Crew Chief Responsibilities
A. The crew chief shall be the sole spokesman for the driver,
vehicle owner and pit crew in any and all matters pertaining
to the Event (other than proceedings pursuant to Section 12,
14 and 15 of the Rule Book). At all Events, the crew chief
assumes responsibility for the actions of his or her driver and
pit crew, and may be subject to disciplinary action as a result.
Unpaid fines for the crew chief, crew members and the
vehicle owner may be collected by CORR by deducting the
amount from the purse or point fund earnings of the driver.

CORR Rule book is online, there is all kinds of BS in there that could make this whole thing very interesting.

PDailey, you must like Cenni, you painted your bug just like his truck! :D

They should have filmed the whole thing, put it on NBC and put CORR big time. This aint golf or figure skating (but look how much attention Tanya Harding brought to the sport trying to break her competitors knee caps)!!!!!!!

[Ziggy]

According to the CORR 2008 Rule Book,

9-4 Driver, Crew Chief Responsibilities
A. The crew chief shall be the sole spokesman for the driver,
vehicle owner and pit crew in any and all matters pertaining
to the Event (other than proceedings pursuant to Section 12,
14 and 15 of the Rule Book). At all Events, the crew chief
assumes responsibility for the actions of his or her driver and
pit crew, and may be subject to disciplinary action as a result.
Unpaid fines for the crew chief, crew members and the
vehicle owner may be collected by CORR by deducting the
amount from the purse or point fund earnings of the driver.

CORR Rule book is online, there is all kinds of BS in there that could make this whole thing very interesting.

PDailey, you must like Cenni, you painted your bug just like his truck! :D

They should have filmed the whole thing, put it on NBC and put CORR big time. This aint golf or figure skating (but look how much attention Tanya Harding brought to the sport trying to break her competitors knee caps)!!!!!!!

I like how you think.Cenni is sensational and climbing the fence will bring in the fans.Every sport needs a Madman.

[tre5]

That's Carl Renezeder he changed because Nissan backed out of American motor sports as a sponsor.

haha, you said it. The post before mine said that a certain lucas oil sponsored blah blah blah. I was just going along with the no name thing.

As far as the Nissan body and F150 grill and lights goes. I don't understand it. So Nissan dropped out (I was aware of this) and are not sponsoring him anymore... Do you think, or maybe you know, Ford is paying him to run the decals on his Titan body? I doubt it. Why not just keep running the Titan decals? Put the big ol' Lucas sticker on there and call it done. It just looks too funny. How many of these Titan bodies does he have on reserve?

[ryant35]

haha, you said it. The post before mine said that a certain lucas oil sponsored blah blah blah. I was just going along with the no name thing.

As far as the Nissan body and F150 grill and lights goes. I don't understand it. So Nissan dropped out (I was aware of this) and are not sponsoring him anymore... Do you think, or maybe you know, Ford is paying him to run the decals on his Titan body? I doubt it. Why not just keep running the Titan decals? Put the big ol' Lucas sticker on there and call it done. It just looks too funny. How many of these Titan bodies does he have on reserve?

IMO he must have a lot of those rear fenders if he is risking CORR making him change them, but I'm sure he can get away with it, or maybe here a next race...

[pdailey]

PDailey, you must like Cenni, you painted your bug just like his truck! :D

LMFAO. HAHAHAHA, You got me there. That is the the funniest thing that has popped up on this thread. HAHAHAHA

[jamminjeff10]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jamminjeff10
PDailey, you must like Cenni, you painted your bug just like his truck!


LMFAO. HAHAHAHA, You got me there. That is the the funniest thing that has popped up on this thread. HAHAHAHA

Glad you agreed!!! It just jumped out at me!!


As far as the Nissan body and F150 grill and lights goes. I don't understand it. So Nissan dropped out (I was aware of this) and are not sponsoring him anymore... Do you think, or maybe you know, Ford is paying him to run the decals on his Titan body? I doubt it. Why not just keep running the Titan decals? Put the big ol' Lucas sticker on there and call it done. It just looks too funny. How many of these Titan bodies does he have on reserve?

You have to run the same grill / body as the motor. He's running Ford motors this year.

[tre5]

ahhh, what was he running last year? Money to change motors, but not boddies?

[RickNasty]

As far as the Nissan body and F150 grill and lights goes. I don't understand it. So Nissan dropped out (I was aware of this) and are not sponsoring him anymore... Do you think, or maybe you know, Ford is paying him to run the decals on his Titan body? I doubt it. Why not just keep running the Titan decals? Put the big ol' Lucas sticker on there and call it done. It just looks too funny. How many of these Titan bodies does he have on reserve?

I asked him about this at the Pomona race and his explanation was simple. He said he paid to have the mold made for the nissan titan body, I asked how much and he said about as much as I paid for my real titan, so given how much he had invested in that body he was going to run it for as long as he could to get his moneys worth out of it.

[tre5]

Ok, It still looks funny though. haha

[pappawheely]

I'm sure he'll use up the fenders in no time. LOL

[Ziggy]

Not "wreckin Renezeder"

[ryant35]

I'm sure he'll use up the fenders in no time. LOL

There goes one!

[davidmcclurephotography]

I'm sure he'll use up the fenders in no time. LOL

Does this mean I still have to watch your back on the track?

[pappawheely]

Does this mean I still have to watch your back on the track?


Yep! :eek:

[ryant35]

Does this mean I still have to watch your back on the track?

I seem to spend most of my time watching you... I'm putting together a whole collection of my shots with you in the background. I mean what are the odds of this one? attached...

[NittoTim]

$10 bucks. You're on. Make sure you stop by the trailer.



Won't matter. $10 says Cenni won't be there.

[davidmcclurephotography]

I seem to spend most of my time watching you... I'm putting together a whole collection of my shots with you in the background. I mean what are the odds of this one? attached...

That's classic! Lets see every other one that you have of my flash not in your frame...

Ahhhh,
I knew I didn't want to get involved on this link, so heres my take... Greaves, an this goes for everyone out there putting their foot down. It's always great to see a humble guy out in front taking the win. One thing for sure though, drama does get the ratings up & always makes for an interesting and unique photo opportunity. Also, Cenni, "You gotta come back, I owe you a t-shirt!"

[pdailey]

$10 bucks. You're on. Make sure you stop by the trailer.

HAHA, do I get a free autograph?

[TROPHYSEDAN]

Dear Drivers:



After reviewing Adrian Cenni’s disqualifications, it has been become evident that with the new points awarding system, a Disqualification is too severe of a penalty. In comparing this year’s points system to last year’s, a disqualification decision this year would have three to four times the impact that it would have had in previous years, effectively erasing a driver’s chance of being a competitive force in the standings.



CORR has reevaluated the points awarded to drivers that received a disqualification in 2008. The following changes have been made:

Adrian Cenni will receive the following points:

· Round 3—Pro 4—69 Points

· Round 4—Pro 4—69 Points

· Round 4—Pro 2—62 Points



Rodrigo Ampudia will receive the following points:

· Round 2—Pro 2—47 Points



Scott Peterson will receive the following points:

· Round 4—Pro Buggy—29 Points



For all future races, any major infraction will be reviewed by CORR officials following each event weekend with penalties imposed on the Wednesday following the race. In the future, infractions will be handled by point deductions. CORR still reserves the right to impose disqualifications in very severe infractions.



We look forward to seeing you in Pomona.



Cissy Baldwin



just got this.

[ryant35]

So who owes who $10?

[pdailey]

So who owes who $10?

I guess that would be me. Oh well, I'll pay with a couple of Monster's I guess. :D

[Nukldragger]

I saw that "clarification" today at the shop.....

I gotta wonder how this plays into the lawsuit Porter filed against Jim Baldwin....conspiracy theories anyone?:p

[Bill]

I guess that would be me. Oh well, I'll pay with a couple of Monster's I guess. :D

Why not pay with the $10 bucks you bet instead of the free monsters that you get from kissing Johnny`s asssss?

[pdailey]

Why not pay with the $10 bucks you bet instead of the free monsters that you get from kissing Johnny`s asssss?

What crawled up your ass? Take it easy pal. I will pay off my bet. He took it and I owe. I was just trying to be funny. You know" HAHA". I will make sure he has a nice crispy $10 bill. Does that make you feel better now?

[OffroadExit]

....and will Cenni/Porter racing be in Pomona this weekend???

[EdgeHost]

The word on the street is that yes they will be in Pomona racing!

[ryant35]

The word on the street is that yes they will be in Pomona racing!

Good! It would be disappointing not to see that orange truck this weekend.

[NittoTim]

If you really want my autograph I'll give you one



HAHA, do I get a free autograph?

[NittoTim]

No worries. I cheated cause I wasn't sure if they were going to race until I posted that reply. LOL! I will take a monster JAVA if you come across any



What crawled up your ass? Take it easy pal. I will pay off my bet. He took it and I owe. I was just trying to be funny. You know" HAHA". I will make sure he has a nice crispy $10 bill. Does that make you feel better now?

[pdailey]

No worries. I cheated cause I wasn't sure if they were going to race until I posted that reply. LOL! I will take a monster JAVA if you come across any

You got brother. Hopefully we can all bury the hatchet and get back to some good racing like last year.

[OffroadExit]

well breaking news...Nitto no longer involved with Cenni?? At today's qualifying he was running BFG tires and had the Nitto logo on the truck. I think later in the day when he was in the race there was no Nitto sponsor sticker on the truck and he was still racing with the BFGs.

Nitto Tim...whats up with that?

[desertbull]

We all know the story...but what's Nitto Tim's side of the story? :) The other side is on tape....and being edited this week. :)

Also interesting to find out the inside scoop from Creighton King about the Steve Naughton v. Pistol Pete explosion in the Maxxis Motorhome. They could have sold tickets to the Maxxis Brawl and I woulda kicked in for some front row tickets...but Creighton has that Motorhome InCar

I heard Pete was the ultimate cool, calm and collective while being yelled at by the aggravated Naughton...

Creighton--give us the behind the scenes with Creighton King on that!!!!

[Kartman]

We all know the story...but what's Nitto Tim's side of the story? :) The other side is on tape....and being edited this week. :)

Also interesting to find out the inside scoop from Creighton King about the Steve Naughton v. Pistol Pete explosion in the Maxxis Motorhome. They could have sold tickets to the Maxxis Brawl and I woulda kicked in for some front row tickets...but Creighton has that Motorhome InCar

I heard Pete was the ultimate cool, calm and collective while being yelled at by the aggravated Naughton...

Creighton--give us the behind the scenes with Creighton King on that!!!!

What was the subject of the argument for those of us who were not there?

[pappawheely]

What was the subject of the argument for those of us who were not there?


Who was hotter, Eva Mendez or Eva Longoria.

[ryant35]

Who was hotter, Eva Mendez or Eva Longoria.

Eva Longoria? Please. Cenni was obviously right about Eva Mendez.

[little bart]

Have you seen eva longoria;)......no one is hotter..well except maybe jennifer love hewitt.

[ryant35]

Maybe you guys are thinking about these girls a few (10) years ago... you guys are gonna get this thread locked.

[gmmvp42]

gotta go with Mendez, although Longoria did you look good at the Laker/Spurs game a few weeks ago.

[pdailey]

Mendez.. She's hot!!!

[desertbull]

Mendez.. She's hot!!!

Hot was your wife this past race weekend in the Greaves Pit...I thought she was the twin sister to Mendez!

Hot was also Stevo getting after Pistola in the Maxxy MoHo...

But two different hots---LOL

Who the hell is Fly? ROTLMAO

[pdailey]

Hot was your wife this past race weekend in the Greaves Pit...I thought she was the twin sister to Mendez!

Hot was also Stevo getting after Pistola in the Maxxy MoHo...

But two different hots---LOL

Who the hell is Fly? ROTLMAO

LOL, I'll let her know you said that. She is one crazy lady!!! HAHAHA

[Bill]

What crawled up your ass? Take it easy pal. I will pay off my bet. He took it and I owe. I was just trying to be funny. You know" HAHA". I will make sure he has a nice crispy $10 bill. Does that make you feel better now?

just came across this post of how we first meet and thought it was kinda funny now that we have actually meet.

[pdailey]

just came across this post of how we first meet and thought it was kinda funny now that we have actually meet.

Oh yeah!!! And for the record, I did go over there and offered him a $10 bill. He laughed and wouldn't take it. We had a nice convo after that!!! Funny how the world turns, huh?? LOL