Pocono

[Tristar Racing]

Heres the release from RGM. Looks like a blank car this weekend, I hope this doesnt become common, seeing as how I think 13 races are listed as unsponsored on the RGM site. Any predictions? RG tends to run ok at Pocono, but usually has bad luck.

Robby Gordon Pocono 500 Preview



Before Robby Gordon heads to Pocono Raceway, he will make a pit stop at Eldora Speedway on Wednesday night for Tony Stewart’s fourth annual Prelude to the Dream, an all-star dirt race benefiting the Victory Junction Gang Camp's new Kansas City wing, the Tony Stewart Foundation, and other charities. Gordon will be driving a 2,300 lb dirt late model stock car prepped by Scott Bloomquist and sponsored by Jim Beam. Sunday’s Pocono 500 will mark Gordon’s fourth race in just over a week and his 13th start at the unique, three-turn triangular track.



For the first time this season, Robby Gordon Motorsports will be racing a “back in black” unsponsored race car. For sponsorship opportunities available for the top-35 team, contact the Business Development department at 704-949-1255 or bizdev@teamgordon.com.



TV and Radio Times – Qualifying is set for Friday, June 6th at 3:40 p.m. (ET) on SPEED TV, MRN, and Sirius. The 200 laps of racing action begins on Sunday at 2:00 p.m. and will be broadcast live on TNT, MRN and Sirius Satellite radio.



Eldora – “I am really excited about this race,” Gordon stated. “We had a successful test session in Tennessee a few weeks ago, and I can’t wait to get back in the car at Eldora. Not only is this a fun event for our team, but it is supporting some great causes. I really appreciate Jim Beam and Scott Bloomquist for helping us to make this event happen.”



Dover – “Our team has really been showing improvement over the past few weeks, and I think we will continue the trend throughout the rest of the season. Pocono is a challenging track, but it is also fun once you can figure out what works best in the turns. Even though we didn’t get a chance to test due to Baja 500 commitments, I think we will be okay,” Gordon commented.

[RGFan]

No bueno

[Ryan_P]

Not good. It's hard to get sponsors these days, just look at Yates.

And without testing there, they better have a good idea from GEM on where to start.

[RGFan]

Not good. It's hard to get sponsors these days, just look at Yates.

And without testing there, they better have a good idea from GEM on where to start.


GEM was pretty fast there. As long as the setup is to RG's liking, they should be ok. GEM is being paid to handle marketing/sponsor issues for RG. If they can get coverage for Carpentier, then they should have no issue getting sponsorship for RG. THey need to get on it. I think John menard really put RG into a bad situation with pulling primary sponsorship for the IRL effort late.

[Tristar Racing]

GEM was pretty fast there. As long as the setup is to RG's liking, they should be ok. GEM is being paid to handle marketing/sponsor issues for RG. If they can get coverage for Carpentier, then they should have no issue getting sponsorship for RG. THey need to get on it. I think John menard really put RG into a bad situation with pulling primary sponsorship for the IRL effort late.

Is that what happened? Or did the GEM deal upset John and just not make business sense since Menards is a sponsor with DEI? When it was just RGM, it was no big deal. But to sponsor DEI and a najor competitor like GEM might have not made business sense.

Im not saying Im right, just a thought though. It does irritate me if the money went to Ed Carpenters IRL effort, thats a waste of cash...

[RGFan]

Is that what happened? Or did the GEM deal upset John and just not make business sense since Menards is a sponsor with DEI? When it was just RGM, it was no big deal. But to sponsor DEI and a najor competitor like GEM might have not made business sense.

Im not saying Im right, just a thought though. It does irritate me if the money went to Ed Carpenters IRL effort, thats a waste of cash...

Menards was still a primary with RG when he was at Ford along with Paul at DEI, there was no issues then. He even tried to help RG with the buy out of Yates. If anything John Menard has been quoted as saying that RG trying to go it alone was not smart from a business standpoint. RG is no longer trying to go it alone so to speak. So I do not see that being an issue. I think DEI probably wanted more dough, and John really being an IRL man wanted to get back in.

[Ryan_P]

Menards was still a primary with RG when he was at Ford, along with Paul at DEI, there was no issues then. If anything John Menard has been quoted as saying that RG trying to go it alone was not smart from a business standpoint. RG is no longer trying to go it alone so to speak. So I do not see that being an issue. Menards has been an RG staple for years

What I think he's trying to say is, since Robby sought help elsewhere, John probably thought he would venture over to DEI and go back to Chevrolet. Instead, he went to GEM and Dodge.

[Tristar Racing]

What I think he's trying to say is, since Robby sought help elsewhere, John probably thought he would venture over to DEI and go back to Chevrolet. Instead, he went to GEM and Dodge.

Yea, either way Robby has a lot of races with a blank car coming up. Bummer. And to think Robby could have been rocking in a Red Bull Toyota right now that he partially owned...

[RGFan]

What I think he's trying to say is, since Robby sought help elsewhere, John probably thought he would venture over to DEI and go back to Chevrolet. Instead, he went to GEM and Dodge.

I know what he was saying, just do not think it was ever an issue.....Never has been before. It is not like John owns DEI. Just my honest opinion.

[RGFan]

Yea, either way Robby has a lot of races with a blank car coming up. Bummer. And to think Robby could have been rocking in a Red Bull Toyota right now that he partially owned...

Yeah, especially when that is probably what he is going to do with GEM anyways.....The excuse then was that he did not want to give up control with the Red Bull thing. Ah well, this is not the first time RG has had issues. I would think if GEM was serious about buying into RGM in some capacity, it would serve them just as much to have RG in every race and keep the 7 car in the top 35...So I am not to concerned. If they leave him to flounder financially, then we know that there is no immenent deal.

[bajafox]

Did you guys see Jimmie's Power Rankings comment?

Jimmie Johnson
Jimmie should put on a good show at Eldora, but he'd be the odds-on favorite if Tony Stewart had gone along with his suggestion to add jumps and whoop-de-dos along the backstretch.

Jimmie would be the odds favorite if they added jumps and whoop-de-dos? When was the last time he even hit a "whoop-de-do" that wasn't in a golf cart?

[Combo]

Did you guys see Jimmie's Power Rankings comment?

Jimmie Johnson
Jimmie should put on a good show at Eldora, but he'd be the odds-on favorite if Tony Stewart had gone along with his suggestion to add jumps and whoop-de-dos along the backstretch.

Jimmie would be the odds favorite if they added jumps and whoop-de-dos? When was the last time he even hit a "whoop-de-do" that wasn't in a golf cart?

LMAO!!!

[RGFan]

These guys really need to get out of the North Carolina bubble once in a while

[RGFan]

Look out, the robots on the other site want RG to use the Robot Uprising Signage on the 7 car......Nothing looks more "I am not a legit effort" more then things like that.

[Tristar Racing]

Look out, the robots on the other site want RG to use the Robot Uprising Signage on the 7 car......Nothing looks more "I am not a legit effort" more then things like that.

Yes! Someone finally used my "Robot Uprising" comment! Thank you! :)

[Racer21(Roberto)]

where's monster in all of this sponsorship talk?!?!?!?

i loved that monster car. he should at least get a few races with them. at LEAST sonoma

[RGFan]

I figure if Monster wanted to be in Nascar, they would be, thye have had many chances to step up. I figure they are a dirt company so to speak. They love the dirt and are well diversified from within the "Dirt" industry. Can not make them do what they do not want to do.

[b-makk]

Yup, that's the impression I get too. I also get the impression that RGM doesn't want one-race sponsorship deals.

I'm hoping Carpentier will miss the race so maybe GEM will deck out RG's car with the 10 decals.

[RGFan]

Carpentier up to third for lap time. That is who RG works with most at GEM. GO get that setup.

[RGFan]

Man, GEM all in the top 9, RG mired in 42nd.......No bueno

[woundedyak]

RG on track side tonight

[michael_loomis]

42nd? When I left the house SPEED showed him 30th? about 45 mins ago.

[JRod]

I figure if Monster wanted to be in Nascar, they would be, thye have had many chances to step up. I figure they are a dirt company so to speak. They love the dirt and are well diversified from within the "Dirt" industry. Can not make them do what they do not want to do.

I talked to Monster Joe at Parker and it didn't seem like Nascar was going to become a regular thing- They have their budget and the bang for their buck with RGs off-road program is awesome... Think about it- Every full page ad from Toyo or anyother sponsor is free advertising for them- They pay to be on the truck/helmets/suits etc.... but the budget for Nascar (compared to RedBull) just ain't there.... maybe someday.

[RGFan]

I talked to Monster Joe at Parker and it didn't seem like Nascar was going to become a regular thing- They have their budget and the bang for their buck with RGs off-road program is awesome... Think about it- Every full page ad from Toyo or anyother sponsor is free advertising for them- They pay to be on the truck/helmets/suits etc.... but the budget for Nascar (compared to RedBull) just ain't there.... maybe someday.

Well, they need to drop Bernstein and step up to Cup part time atleast. They should have been on the dirt car at Eldora

[JRod]

Well, they need to drop Bernstein and step up to Cup part time atleast. They should have been on the dirt car at Eldora

Absolutely- And from the sounds of it, JB was a last minute paint scheme as it was....

As much as I would love to see the big green M on the Cup car, maybe it's better they keep dumping $$$ into the off-road program if Hummer goes the way of the dinasour and that cash-cow dries up....

...back to Pocono though- Seems strange that RG is sharing sponsors (Verizon/Motorola) with other GEM drivers when he has blank car races....

[b-makk]

...back to Pocono though- Seems strange that RG is sharing sponsors (Verizon/Motorola) with other GEM drivers when he has blank car races....

some different opinions on that - DEI thinks its better to put a logo on their hood when unsponsored, and Yates thinks its better to run blank cars.

[JRod]

some different opinions on that - DEI thinks its better to put a logo on their hood when unsponsored, and Yates thinks its better to run blank cars.

Good point- I dunno about the RuR logo if that's good or bad... If you don't have a sponsor, make the car look as mean/menacing as you can....or, save the time on the fancy paint job and put some more time/money into qualifying/runnin up front- LOL!

[Tristar Racing]

If you finish well, sponsorship takes care of itself. The only time I remember a blank car running well and not getting sponsor attention was the LJ Racing #91 driven by Kevin Lepage, I believe back in the late 90's.

[RGFan]

If you finish well, sponsorship takes care of itself. The only time I remember a blank car running well and not getting sponsor attention was the LJ Racing #91 driven by Kevin Lepage, I believe back in the late 90's.

Well, unfortunately it takes money from sponsorship to run well. In a down economy, the best sponsors are already taken up. Down sponsorhip=down performance. Look at the Yates cars, they have had some solid runs and are naked about half of the time.

There was a time when Kevin Lepage ran well:D

[Chris Tobin]

Quals are under way...

current order is:

48
20
83
11
15
55
29

[woundedyak]

If you finish well, sponsorship takes care of itself. The only time I remember a blank car running well and not getting sponsor attention was the LJ Racing #91 driven by Kevin Lepage, I believe back in the late 90's.

Look at Travis Kvapil. He has only been sponsored for 2 or 3 races and he is 18 in points.

[Chris Tobin]

29 drivers have gone so far

top 5 is as follows currently...

48
8
01
99
18

JG is 26th

RG is 28th

and Dale Jr has yet to run

[Chris Tobin]

Kasey Kahne just bumped JJ off the pole!

[RGFan]

Back to reality for RG. Maybe having success and then going back to mediocrity will finally make him realize he needs to drive for a contender, not an also ran. Ah well

[brown_e]

RG Fan, loosing hope? He didn't test there and is suffering the consequence. Oh, well. Maybe that GEM allignment and assistance isnt' paying off as hoped and another change is coming.

On another note, I can't believe how much a POS, POS is! I just looked on fox sports to see the qualifying rundown and POS say's, 'i'm a fan of Pocona.' Wow, it's the most boring race out there and on TV the race sucks! At least I will be at Pomona watching CORR, which will be much more entertaining!

[RGFan]

RG Fan, loosing hope? He didn't test there and is suffering the consequence. Oh, well. Maybe that GEM allignment and assistance isnt' paying off as hoped and another change is coming.

On another note, I can't believe how much a POS, POS is! I just looked on fox sports to see the qualifying rundown and POS say's, 'i'm a fan of Pocona.' Wow, it's the most boring race out there and on TV the race sucks! At least I will be at Pomona watching CORR, which will be much more entertaining!

Not losing hope, just facing facts. It did not work with Chevy, it did not work with Ford, it is not working with Dodge.....It did work when he drove for somebody else. Ah well, It is what it is

[Tristar Racing]

Look at Travis Kvapil. He has only been sponsored for 2 or 3 races and he is 18 in points.

In cars that are pre-preped at Roush Racing. That team is more Roush than Yates, trust me.

[fishd00d]

Not a good week on my picks!! Crap this week is looking like its gona hurt lol

[kaw500]

Predictions?
The #7 stays out of trouble and the driver stays awake (boring race) for a top 20.
And the #18 runs up front again.

2 weeks from today we will be just starting the Bar-b-Que after watching RG qualify on the front row.

[Racer21(Roberto)]

come on. robby gordon started 43rd at dover and finished in the top 20. he needs to stay out of trouble for a little bit and at least stay on the lead lap. and he might get a top 15 or at least a top 20.

[michael_loomis]

Predictions?
The #7 stays out of trouble and the driver stays awake (boring race) for a top 20.
And the #18 runs up front again.

2 weeks from today we will be just starting the Bar-b-Que after watching RG qualify on the front row.

Yeah buddy!!!! :)

[b-makk]

"If Office Depot really wants to support small business, how about sponsoring Robby Gordon next year? You won't find another car owner in the NASCAR garage that invests a higher percentage of sponsorship money back into his race team ..."

foxsports.com

[fishd00d]

#18 crashes in practice today....

[RGFan]

Race getting ready to start...Just interviewed JJ, said he regrets not racing dirt more then he did in the past and looks forward to changing that in the near future.

[DEZERTSUB]

Oh my God....you paid attention to what JJ said and you haven't put him down

RGFan, is that really you?:D

[kaw500]

NO TV today lots of prep work today, summer events. Computer up in the garage and MRN streaming along with Pit Command.
Getting ready for Sonoma in 2 weeks but more important getting the big 500's ready for on more run at V2R.

Green flag

[RGFan]

way tight everywhere...Not a pretty start

[RGFan]

12 laps in, the leader is in turn 3 when RG is exiting turn 1

[RGFan]

Wow, just over a straight away from getting lapped

[RGFan]

Oh my God....you paid attention to what JJ said and you haven't put him down

RGFan, is that really you?:D

I only put him down when he deserved it
:D

[RGFan]

Sombody please bring out a caution

[RGFan]

"I'm tight but I'm lacking grip in all 4 tires".....YES!!!!!Yellow, Scot Riggs off of the pace...sweet....Big adjustments coming, track bar, tire pressure all around and shock adjustments

[RGFan]

Oh man, they are saying that RIggs pitted before the yellow, stayed on the lead lap and is now the leader.....bastard

[RGFan]

Man, his car just sucks today.....The rookies are passing him at will, "no change, stil tight"

[woundedyak]

NO TV today lots of prep work today, summer events. Computer up in the garage and MRN streaming along with Pit Command.
Getting ready for Sonoma in 2 weeks but more important getting the big 500's ready for on more run at V2R.

Green flag

Kaw500,when you have a chance,send me some pics of that beast.

[woundedyak]

Man, his car just sucks today.....The rookies are passing him at will

Didn't RG say on track side that they figured out what the problem was? Another thought I had is If Tony Stewart buy's a team and goes back to chevy, would it be nice If he asked RG to come drive for him and RGM becomes a satalite team for Tony Stewart Motorsports. For some reason that doesn't sound right!

[Tristar Racing]

RG is getting a bit short with Walter, could this be the beginning of the end?

[DEZERTSUB]

Oh yeah, for all you guys who think FOX broadcasting sucks, how do you think TNT is doing????

I say bring back FOX anyday

[RGFan]

I have been trying to chat with the Robots.......Man those guys blame everybody but the boss......RG is back to running his own chassis again, the GEM chassis "did not work for him". The way I see it is RG could not get it done in Chevy, Ford and now Dodge. How many more people are going to get blamed for his issues. IF RG wants to perform, he needs to do it as a driver only, because him being the boss just does not work in Cup.

[RGFan]

Oh yeah, for all you guys who think FOX broadcasting sucks, how do you think TNT is doing????

I say bring back FOX anyday

100 times better then "Boggity Boogity Boogity" and playing "Let's go Racin Boys" 150 times in a race.

[DEZERTSUB]

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

"go to the garage, go to the garage, go to the garage"

Bye bye Rowdy

[DEZERTSUB]

100 times better then "Boggity Boogity Boogity" and playing "Let's go Racin Boys" 150 times in a race.

OK that song is lame as hell, but the images just look crisper, I cannot recall an audio loss on FOX like e had on TNT today....

Oh and congrats to that ugly Keselowski kid on his first win last night

[kaw500]

Does Kyle think that everyone needs to check up for him, Hack move by the 18.

[RGFan]

Man, RG wants to stay out for track position with a shiot car......Sounds like a recipe for disaster

[kaw500]

OK that song is lame as hell, but the images just look crisper, I cannot recall an audio loss on FOX like e had on TNT today....

Oh and congrats to that ugly Keselowski kid on his first win last night

My Wife hates the braces:D

[kaw500]

Man, RG wants to stay out for track position with a shiot car......Sounds like a recipe for disaster

Did he pit?????

[RGFan]

OK that song is lame as hell, but the images just look crisper, I cannot recall an audio loss on FOX like e had on TNT today....

Oh and congrats to that ugly Keselowski kid on his first win last night

Your crazy, Fox had the exact same issue for Daytona, no sound for several minutes....And they had two weeks to get it figured out. Just a difference of opinion. If Fox would get rid of Darrell and insert Wally or Kyle, they would have it perfect, along with the stupid music.......Darrell just ruins it all. As far as the picture, I can not tell,I am watching it on HD

[DEZERTSUB]

Your crazy, Fox had the exact same issue for Daytona, no sound for several minutes....And they had two weeks to get it figured out. Just a difference of opinion. If Fox would get rid of Darrell and insert Wally or Kyle, they would have it perfect, along with the stupid music.......Darrell just ruins it all. As far as the picture, I can not tell,I am watching it on HD

Well hell from now on I'm gonna come watch races with you:D

[RGFan]

Well hell from now on I'm gonna come watch races with you:D

Only if you stop rooting for Hendrick:D...And if you say no to that, you can look through the window

[DEZERTSUB]

That Carpet eater guy hasn't done much besides crash since he's been in NASCAR has he now?

I'm sorry, I think these open wheel guys are being given way too much credit. Besides Juan problemo, who has done anything significant?

[Bricoop]

The Motor is junk. So much for today.

[RGFan]

He won a race with fuel mileage

[RGFan]

The Motor is junk. So much for today.

The chassis setup is junk also, still way tight, better but still way tight and no grip...Looks like a red flag

[Tristar Racing]

Oh yeah, for all you guys who think FOX broadcasting sucks, how do you think TNT is doing????

I say bring back FOX anyday

How can you think Fox is better? Those guys on fox are awful. Whats the problem with the TNT crew? Not enough Boogity Boogity, gopher camera BS, or other stuff that has nothing to do with racing?


That Carpet eater guy hasn't done much besides crash since he's been in NASCAR has he now?

I'm sorry, I think these open wheel guys are being given way too much credit. Besides Juan problemo, who has done anything significant?

Carpentier has qualified for every race that has had a qualifying session (he missed due to rain outs, and a tire issue in the 150 qualifier), I think he has done pretty well. AJ Allmendinger has run pretty well recently. Not everyone has Hendrick equipment to make them look good... :)

[DEZERTSUB]

How can you think Fox is better? Those guys on fox are awful. Whats the problem with the TNT crew? Not enough Boogity Boogity, gopher camera BS, or other stuff that has nothing to do with racing?

I think the gopher cam is pretty cool.

I can't really put my finger on exactly what it is that makes Fox broadcasts so much better to me. It's Larry Mac's excitement I think...it just seems like they are more into it when it's on FOX. The ticker that shows their positions on FOX is also better than on TNT, (I can't see what lap they are on, all it says is OF 200) but maybe thats just my TV.

[RGFan]

How can you think Fox is better? Those guys on fox are awful. Whats the problem with the TNT crew? Not enough Boogity Boogity, gopher camera BS, or other stuff that has nothing to do with racing?

You forgot the song, you forgot the damned song

[Tristar Racing]

I think the gopher cam is pretty cool.

I can't really put my finger on exactly what it is that makes Fox broadcasts so much better to me. It's Larry Mac's excitement I think...it just seems like they are more into it when it's on FOX. The ticker that shows their positions on FOX is also better than on TNT, (I can't see what lap they are on, all it says is OF 200) but maybe thats just my TV.

The camera is cool, naming it the gopher cam, giving the gopher a name, and adding an cartoon is pathetic.

Larry Mac is an idiot by the way, and most that have worked in the garage would agree. Earnhardt went winless besides the 500 when he had him, thats no a coincidence.

Its your TV by the way with the stuff missing. Wow, must be a boring race if Im debating TV coverage. Wait I hear Larry Mac, and I sure wish I didnt.


You forgot the song, you forgot the damned song

Its so bad I refuse to talk about it. Its almost a bad as Robbys car today. Hey when was it anounced RG went back to his own chassis? Dumb move in my opinion. So much for using GEMs resources.

[DEZERTSUB]

I always said Juan Problemo was a flamer.

and yes, the song SUCKS!!!

[RGFan]

The camera is cool, naming it the gopher cam, giving the gopher a name, and adding an cartoon is pathetic.

Larry Mac is an idiot by the way, and most that have worked in the garage would agree. Earnhardt went winless besides the 500 when he had him, thats no a coincidence.

Its your TV by the way with the stuff missing. Wow, must be a boring race if Im debating TV coverage. Wait I hear Larry Mac, and I sure wish I didnt.



Its so bad I refuse to talk about it. Its almost a bad as Robbys car today. Hey when was it anounced RG went back to his own chassis? Dumb move in my opinion. So much for using GEMs resources.


I do not know if I would call Larry Mac an idiot, he is a champion winning crew chief, but then again, Darrell Waltrip is an idiot and he won 3 championships

[RGFan]

RG just got screwed for avoiding a crash on pit road, they are putting him at the back of the line....He only lost 5 spots

[Tristar Racing]

And Nascar continues its love affair with RG. Too fast down pit road. Ive seen the other Gordon and JJ fly down pit road with no penalty.

I love Robbys comment, "Tel nascar next time Ill just stay on the track and run the guys over."

What a lame race

[Tristar Racing]

I do not know if I would call Larry Mac an idiot, he is a champion winning crew chief, but then again, Darrell Waltrip is an idiot and he won 3 championships

Ill recommend some good reading for you in regards to Nascar behind the scenes. Larry Macs "success" was due to others in the organization. Some of the best parts of the book talk about his time at the #26 King Racing Quaker State car, hilarious stuff.

I get you the name of the book when I find it.

[DEZERTSUB]

I do not know if I would call Larry Mac an idiot, he is a champion winning crew chief, but then again, Darrell Waltrip is an idiot and he won 3 championships

I think BHO is an idiot and look at what he's doing and all the support he's got!?!?!?

Idiots attract idiots?

Is it just me or does this race seem....lame?

[Ryan_P]

RGM should have tested. Can't blame anyone but themselves for that.

[Tristar Racing]

I think BHO is an idiot and look at what he's doing and all the support he's got!?!?!?

Idiots attract idiots?

Is it just me or does this race seem....lame?

BHO? Whos that?

[DEZERTSUB]

That NASCAR '09 video game looks pretty rad!!!!

Is it just for XBox 360?

[RGFan]

That NASCAR '09 video game looks pretty rad!!!!

Is it just for XBox 360?

They left Robby out again like a couple of years ago

[RGFan]

No way, EA sports has always been tight with Sony......PS3 on Firday

[Tristar Racing]

They left Robby out again like a couple of years ago

Your kidding right?

And how do you know RGM went back to their own chassis? Just curious if you had any more info.

[RGFan]

No, he is not in it.....I heard the chassis thing from a friend a few weeks ago.....Then one of the engineers on RGM posted saying the same yesterday. They feel that RGM makes a quality chassis, just as good as GEM. I do not doubt their fabrication skills at all or the quality of the end product. But simple logic states that the more you run a particular chassis, the more info you can gather, which in theory should translate to better setups. RG needs to get on the GEM band wagon and get competetive. Once that is done, he can pick up another team, once they are competetive with two cars, and can become more independent, then consider running their own chassis. Just an opinion.....But isnt that one of the advantages of getting with a multi-car team in the first place. You would think after 4 years he would think that finishing in the bottom 20 is not good enough any more.

[Tristar Racing]

No, he is not in it.....I heard the chassis thing from a friend a few weeks ago.....Then one of the engineers on RGM posted saying the same yesterday. They feel that RGM makes a quality chassis, just as good as GEM.

Sucks about the video game, but I still play Nascar 2003 by Papyrus; its still the best simulator.

RGM might make the highest quality chassis, but they seem to all lack one key ingredient; speed. Hopefully Sonoma will be good.

[RGFan]

They are junk

[Tristar Racing]

I think the Walter experience is going down hill. Robby is reverting back to saying he said things on the radio that he really didnt, and saying he didnt hear the crew when decisions were made like 4 tires.

We need a happy team for going into Sonoma, and this isnt helping.

[Tristar Racing]

Wow, Im sorry but stopping to top off the fuel and only taking 2 tires? Im so confused right now.

Just about as dumb as not using the chassis thats currently running first with the 9 and was in the top ten for a while with the 19.

Oh I hope Sonoma goes well...

[RGFan]

they are getting desperate........RG should really sell the team to GEM, keep minority ownership like Ray and become a GEM car. Robby is overruling everybody and trying to be the crewchief, owner and driver all by himself. A recipe for what we are seeing today....Meanwhile, BIffle/Erwin are in P1

[Tristar Racing]

they are getting desperate........RG should really sell the team to GEM, keep minority ownership like Ray and become a GEM car. Robby is overruling everybody and trying to be the crewchief, owner and driver all by himself. A recipe for what we are seeing today

Hopefully he can win a road course before he sells/team shuts down due to a lack of sponsorship, just so he can say he did proved people wrong. What a waste of talent...

[RGFan]

Hopefully he can win a road course before he sells/team shuts down due to a lack of sponsorship, just so he can say he did proved people wrong. What a waste of talent...

Well said

[Bricoop]

They have decided to try the fuel mileage game. Lets see how it works.

[RGFan]

I do not know what RG and Walter are thinking....They think they are going to pull a fast one with their pit strategy.......everybody else is doing the same thing

[Bricoop]

Their only hope is a caution

[Tristar Racing]

Definately did a good job getting tv exposure today... :)

We need a good run at Michigan to gain some momentum.


....and Walter just asked RG to save fuel. A bad strategy done poorly, lets just forget this race, its probably for the best.

[RGFan]

Why will Michigan be any better, each race ends the same......Miserably....Another 30something finish....Gonna drive the H3 on Sega.

[Tristar Racing]

Why will Michigan be any better, each race ends the same......Miserably....Another 30something finish

Come on, dont be so negative. Michigan might be different, although I wil admit Im having similar thoughts.

[RGFan]

Not negative, just real

[JRod]

Today sucked- I don't even know why I try to block out Sunday afternoons... the "strategy" was an absolute forking joke...

[RGFan]

It has been a disaster since the week after Daytona..... Oh yeah, Talladega was decent....He is doing ok now.....to little to late.

[JRod]

I am not looking forward to the post-race report about how good they were running at the end of the race----- because who cares if you're not on the lead lap making up positions...and points.

at least I have a whole 6.5 days to get excited for Sonoma....

[JRod]

I suppose it's too much to ask for a pipe-dream that the 20 causes a huge wreck making RG the lucky dog and then the other 35 cars in front of him blow up, giving him the win.... sorry, forgot this is the wrong site to post that kind of delusion....

[kaw500]

Geez that was bad. Last wed seems so long ago.
Bud without JR 3 times so far.

[Tristar Racing]

I just read the thread over at Robot Uprising regarding switching back to RGM chassis. Its hard to buy any of that BS when the #9 destroyed everyone today.

On a side not, Red Bull Racing just getting stronger and stronger. Shoulda coulda woulda...

[RGFan]

From your mouth to Rob's ears

[JRod]

good for red bull- I am now a Liquid Ice Energy Drink man, and Monster plays second fiddle, followed by REd Bull in 3rd, but I am still glad their race team is doing well- Brian VIckers deserves it....

[JRod]

[QUOTE=Tristar Racing;467224]I just read the thread over at Robot Uprising regarding switching back to RGM chassis. Its hard to buy any of that BS when the #9 destroyed everyone today.

QUOTE]

HAHAHA- Someone posted, "We'll figure out what's wrong" so I replied, "How about this? We figure out what went right with the 9 car and start taking some more help from them... isn't that what the whole gawddang quasi-merger was about?....."

we'll see if my membership if revoked, although, at least RGFan is speaking his mind over there too- LOL!

[RGFan]

That dumb ho over there will not shut up

[JRod]

did you notice how he kept trying to close his thread by saying, "Well thanks for coming everyone...."

must have typed it 8 times... interns... LOL!

[woundedyak]

Today wasn't a total lost! Kyle Busch beat him to 43rd place and POS is out of the top 35! BY BY Napa. I also heard that UPS is searching for another team to go with! Does anyone know what happen to the Matco tool deal?

[Tristar Racing]

Today wasn't a total lost! Kyle Busch beat him to 43rd place and POS is out of the top 35! BY BY Napa. I also heard that UPS is searching for another team to go with! Does anyone know what happen to the Matco tool deal?

Mac Tools with RGM? I have been asking this over and over. I think they were signed on for 3 races this year, so much for that.

[michael_loomis]

did someone say pocoho???

[Racer21(Roberto)]

hey, robby has so many secondary sponsors, why can't he set at least one of them up?
when he was a lap down behind tony stewart, i saw robby gordon ssssooooo much and it was just a reminder to me that he needed a sponsor.

monster, camping world, matco tools, jim beam, motorola.

[RGFan]

I know he wants to build something for the future, but why this way as an owner/driver. I think it has been proven time and time again that the driver/owner thing does not work, has not worked for the better part of 25 years with one exception. This is year 4 now, with sponsorship continuing to fall off, and performances similar to that of the first year. I guess what I am saying is that it just sucks watching him run around in circles finishing 20 and 30 something when he is capable of so much more as a driver.

[Tristar Racing]

I know he wants to build something for the future, but why this way as an owner/driver. I think it has been proven time and time again that the driver/owner thing does not work, has not worked for the better part of 25 years with one exception. This is year 4 now, with sponsorship continuing to fall off, and performances similar to that of the first year. I guess what I am saying is that it just sucks watching him run around in circles finishing 20 and 30 something when he is capable of so much more as a driver.

Agreed. I think if he ever wins a race as an owner/driver, I will consider that a success for this 4 year ride.

It seems '06 was progress, and then the vision was lost. '07 came along with the COT, RGM seemed to be well behind in that catagory, and Greg Erwin took the fall for that. Its been down-hill ever since.

Things might have been different if Robby took the half buy-out option from Red Bull, because to me that team is good right now and on the rise. I think Robby could be doing more with those cars than Vickers or AJ, but thats if he decided to play nice. Chewing through crew chiefs, having childish arguements about who said what on the radio during the race, changing makes every year, and blaming bum motors has got to stop. Who knows if Red Bull would be where they are at right now if Robby was over there; they might be right where RGM is at currently. Unfortunately, thats Robby, and that truly is the reason he will never reach the level of a Jeff Gordon or Tony Stewart. The talent is there, but the right mentality is not.

Oh well, thats what makes it fun.

[randy s]

I think the gopher cam is pretty cool.

I can't really put my finger on exactly what it is that makes Fox broadcasts so much better to me. It's Larry Mac's excitement I think...it just seems like they are more into it when it's on FOX. The ticker that shows their positions on FOX is also better than on TNT, (I can't see what lap they are on, all it says is OF 200) but maybe thats just my TV.

i think fox goes way over the line with all that boogity gopher crap. waltrip gives me hives. his insite is so .... 80's. hammond is ok but needs to get over himself. the new guys are'nt nearly as annoying. but donny. why am i so surprised that you like fox. did uncle o"reilly tell you fox's broadcast was better and to bag on the other telecast? yesssss master, as you say. boogity boogity boogity. gag me with a forklift. [ i would pay good money to watch someone spin out and flatten that f--ckin' gopher though]. fox ticker is a bit better. but they still turn the thing off before they get to rg's position. not their fault. who cares whos' solidly locked in in 35th position anyway?

[Ryan_P]

RG is less than 80 points from the dreaded Top 35 line.

Momentum better change, fast.

[RGFan]

The Robots are PISSED OFF!!!!! Bickering with each other. I understand their frustration, but man it is getting mean.

[Tristar Racing]

The Robots are PISSED OFF!!!!! Bickering with each other. I understand their frustration, but man it is getting mean.

I really hope they never migrate over here. Some much more peaceful with us 10 or so realistic fans. Wish I could hit up Sonoma with the guys that are going...

[michael_loomis]

oh but you can!! just gotta say F it im going!

cmon guys.. you are RG fans... you KNOW WHY he is doing it this way.

Top 15 at Michigan coming, followed by Victory at the DODGE save mart 350! :)

[NIKAL]

oh but you can!! just gotta say F it im going!

cmon guys.. you are RG fans... you KNOW WHY he is doing it this way.

Top 15 at Michigan coming, followed by Victory at the DODGE save mart 350! :)

Can you imagine the party at Sonoma if RG was to win there? It would be crazy!

Also found this today,
MWR in trouble? been hearing that there might be trouble over at Michael Waltrip Racing. It seems that they are laying people off, telling them that it is because of financial issues. The team currently fields three Sprint Cup cars, the #00, the #44 and the #55, and one Nationwide Series car, the #99. This year Waltrip brought on a partner, Robert Kauffman, after suffering huge losses on renovations for his Cornelius, NC race shop and a bad 2007 season. Primary sponsor UPS is also pulling out of the team at the end of this season.(NASCAR Insiders, a site that claims to be two NASCAR insiders, including a crew member and journalist)(6-9-2008)

[Chris Tobin]

Can you imagine the party at Sonoma if RG was to win there? It would be crazy!

Also found this today,
MWR in trouble? been hearing that there might be trouble over at Michael Waltrip Racing. It seems that they are laying people off, telling them that it is because of financial issues. The team currently fields three Sprint Cup cars, the #00, the #44 and the #55, and one Nationwide Series car, the #99. This year Waltrip brought on a partner, Robert Kauffman, after suffering huge losses on renovations for his Cornelius, NC race shop and a bad 2007 season. Primary sponsor UPS is also pulling out of the team at the end of this season.(NASCAR Insiders, a site that claims to be two NASCAR insiders, including a crew member and journalist)(6-9-2008)

I just read that and am only surprised that it has taken this long for them to start having problems...

And, now the 55 has dropped out of the top 35 and will likely start missing races again!

[b-makk]

Maybe those 2 Nascar Insiders will be the new Jayski.

We've been saying it all along - POS Racing should have been 2 cars tops. 3 out of the box?? Has that ever been attempted by any other teams?

[RGFan]

DEI went from 1 to 3(From the 1 to the 1,8 and 15) but I do not think anybody else has ever done it

[b-makk]

DEI went from 1 to 3(From the 1 to the 1,8 and 15) but I do not think anybody else has ever done it

I guess POS went from 1 partnership car with BDR to 3 cars and a new manufacturer. His 1 car team wasn't competitive and he was hoping 3 would be? I think he relied too heavily on Toyota. After the cheating, they seemed to focus on other teams.

I would like to see Vickers give Toyota a win. He deserves it. I like him a lot more since he left Hendrick. Red Bull gives him a longer leash & he can show more personality.

[Chris Tobin]

DEI went from 1 to 3(From the 1 to the 1,8 and 15) but I do not think anybody else has ever done it

RGF, didn't DEI run the 1 and 8 for a year or more before the 15 and MW was GIVEN a ride?:confused:

[NIKAL]

I could be wrong but, I thought DEI started as the #1 car with Pennzoil. Then when Park got hurt they had a few temp drivers fill the seat. Then they started the #8 car for Jr as he had won a Busch championship and Dale Sr moved Jr to Cup. Then Sr built the #15 team with NAPA and he brought POS in to drive. During this time Truex won a Busch Championship and DEI found Bass Pro Shops and Truex moved to Cup. POS then left and took NAPA with him, DEI then took Menard and the Menard money and gave him the #15 ride.

Then last year DEI buys Ginn and desolves one team, moves points to the #15 team, and kept the #01 team making DEI a 4 car team.

[Chris Tobin]

I could be wrong but, I thought DEI started as the #1 car with Pennzoil. Then when Park got hurt they had a few temp drivers fill the seat. Then they started the #8 car for Jr as he had won a Busch championship and Dale Sr moved Jr to Cup. Then Sr built the #15 team with NAPA and he brought POS in to drive. During this time Truex won a Busch Championship and DEI found Bass Pro Shops and Truex moved to Cup. POS then left and took NAPA with him, DEI then took Menard and the Menard money and gave him the #15 ride.

Thats basically what I thought, but I think Park was there for quite a while with the 8 and I think even with the 15 before he got hurt.

[RGFan]

DEI had the 1 car for a couple of years with Steve Park, it was previously the 14 car which RG drove for the first time. They did run a Busch effort with Jr during that time, but that was more of a partnership with RCR. In 2000, Jr and Park were teammates for 1 year with a part time 3rd Cup effort. Park made his rookie run in 98, with Jr in 2000...Park was injured in 2001 after Earnhardts death. POS went to DEI in 2001

[Chris Tobin]

DEI had the 1 car for a couple of years with Steve Park, it was previously the 14 car which RG drove for the first time. They did run a Busch effort with Jr during that time, but that was more of a partnership with RCR. In 2000, Jr and Park were teammates for 1 year with a part time 3rd Cup effort. Park made his rookie run in 98, with Jr in 2000...Park was injured in 2001 after Earnhardts death. POS went to DEI in 2001

Wasn't MW there for at least a year before Sr. died?

[NicksTrix]

no he was driving for jimmy smith in the 7. the went there over the winter, dale died a few months after. it was napas first race.

[RGFan]

no he was driving for jimmy smith in the 7. the went there over the winter, dale died a few months after. it was napas first race.

So the 7 is cursed:D:D I forgot all about POS driving the 7......man that sheds so much light on RG's issues

[Mumzy]

Robby should change his car to #65......

California Driver....and California Owner. Entered just 27 Cup races between 1972 - 1975 and scored 5 top tens. All with a punk kid named Mumz gettin' in the way!:p

[michael_loomis]

That car is effin sweet! congrats!

[Offspring]

Hopefully he can win a road course before he sells/team shuts down due to a lack of sponsorship, just so he can say he did proved people wrong. What a waste of talent...

Sonoma....they will start the race with a plan, what lap to stop for fuel the first time etc. then when the first yellow comes out RG will think he can change up the strategy and he WILL throw out the 'plan' and will start winging it....i've seen it time and time again....

[Ryan_P]

Sonoma....they will start the race with a plan, what lap to stop for fuel the first time etc. then when the first yellow comes out RG will think he can change up the strategy and he WILL throw out the 'plan' and will start winging it....i've seen it time and time again....

Once he puts on the helmet, he NEEDS to forget about being an owner and focus more on being a driver. He has a crew chief for a reason; if he keeps calling the shots, why even have someone on top of the box?

[michael_loomis]

the CC should put remote start on the racecar... so when he pulls in wanting two and the CC says 4... they can just shut him off and go to work, or when he doesnt wanna come in they kill the car just before the pit entrance.

[Combo]

the CC should put remote start on the racecar... so when he pulls in wanting two and the CC says 4... they can just shut him off and go to work, or when he doesnt wanna come in they kill the car just before the pit entrance.

Yeah and have the spike strips ready!!!!!:D

Have you noticed how long it is taking for the RG race report. When things are good, news gets out fast. Not so good, keep waiting!

[Racer21(Roberto)]

i got a fealing robby will get a top 15.

GEM has been on top lately (obviously) and i think there engines are part of the luck.
and GEM shares info with RGM. so hope to god he does good, but if he doesn't, infineon is right around the corner.

[JPBart]

Sometimes it's tough to be an RG fan......

[RGFan]

Life as an RG Fan.......Months of frustration with moments of pure driving brilliance

[brown_e]

Unfortunately most moments in Nascar (of pure brilliance in RG) are not aired on Television. Although we see it in Desert, Dakar and what ever else Robby gets his hands on, he still finds some way to jack it up if he has control. See, the reason he did so good in the Prelude to a dream, is he had no idea what he was doing and just drove the car. I don't see on why he can't see that. He is one if not the best wheel man in Nascrap, possibly in the world. Pay some money for a top crew chief (should have never let Irwin go) and let them do their job. But, that won't happen, if it does, I will be amazed, but could be possibly too late.

Nascrap really bothers me. Last night on the show (Nascar something) with POS and Bug Eyed Biffle was dumb! The only cool part was when they were talking to Casey Mears about the fun he and Jimmy have in their Tatum 4 seaters. I know it's a repeat but still cool. Biffle was talking about what he has and what not. That was the only good part of the show. Then there is POS talking about how awesome Pocono is too watch. That guy is HIGH!!! He really is in la, la land, simply amazing. Now that UPS is going elsewhere, Napa needs to fly. I simply can't believe POS get's that much air time.
Robby's marketing partners need to get to work.