Kyle busch!

[Racer21(Roberto)]

im a fan. i know a lot of people aren't.

i've noticed he has a good finish everyother race. look at it.
and he finished 43rd this weekend. maybe a win at michigan. my money's on it.

so what does everyone else think of kyle?

[fishd00d]

Hes got skills for sure. Its not a fluke. He just needs to keep his mouth and arrogance under control and he will get a lot more fans. I am a fan though!

[DEZERTSUB]

Like Fish said, the kid has skillz. If he can harness his raw talent and keep the negative attitude out of it, he can win three championships this year.

I think he's cool as hell. The Days of Thunder glasses and helmet in intros were awesome.

[kaw500]

Knucklehead IMHO

But he can sure drive the wheels off a race car, I could have sworn he was a Hendrick driver. LOL
Would he have been as successful if he had not gone to Gibbs and what must TS think?

[DEZERTSUB]

Knucklehead IMHO

Uh oh! You still gonna let me crash at your trailer????:D:D:D

[michael_loomis]

talented stock car driver...

some of his remarks make him out to be a real DB! maybe next weekend he can change my mind..

[Tristar Racing]

Pain in the butt much like his brother. I worked with Kurt but never Kyle while at Goodyear, but I heard some interesting info when Kyle was coming up about dumping his Roush contract for one with Hendrick. Good driver, but Ill never root for him. I have an issue with anyone that looks that goofy and akward, makes stupid and ill-advised comments, and tries to carry themselves off as being "cool."

[22REKid]

He is a great driver! No one can take that away from him. He can be a bit of a primadonna at times. Like mentioned earlier, he needs to think before he speaks sometimes.

[RGFan]

Not a fan of him, but how many ealry 20 something guys have you heard be responsible and conservative in thier attitudes. Hopefully with age will come maturity. I think Jeff Gordon was the only one (But he was/is the Rainbow Warrior):D;)

[HDRA1]

the bad part is the we would have never heard of either bush boy if chris trickle wasn't killed i have NO respect for either one of those two total A$$hats the have always been jerks there dad is 10X'S worse

[14802]

The boy is still the "Keebler elf ", I hate the goofy goggles and the big ear thing. But.....he does have the driving skills...

[NicksTrix]

he's a driving fool, just needs to shut up.
can't say it's just equipment or team as he runs up front in anything he's getting into right now. what's the common. him. give him credit for that.
ever notice the shape of his two eyes are not the same?

[RGFan]

he's a driving fool, just needs to shut up.
can't say it's just equipment or team as he runs up front in anything he's getting into right now. what's the common. him. give him credit for that.
ever notice the shape of his two eyes are not the same?

That is jacked up man:D

[b-makk]

I'm starting to come around to him. He's an awesome driver but he's struggling to find his identity. He'll mature eventually. I hope he wins multiple championships this year.

I'm hoping Logano is the real deal. Awesome driver + nice guy. I need a winner to cheer for along with the underdog (RG) so I can be happy half the time.

[JB760]

Kyle drives hard even when he's loose.He needs to learn how to back off the gas. He'll get at least a couple more wins this year.

[Racer21(Roberto)]

i've been a fan of kyle since he came to JGR, because WAS a JGR fan.
but, now im just a fan of kyle tony and denny. not the company at all.
i don't like the toyotas, but kyle can put them in victory lane.

kyle is one of the best drivers, and he can drive any car, unless it's really tight. lol

[brown_e]

Kyle is definately a good Nascrap driver. I mean just look at him, his stats prove it!He's on fire (well, not literally, although some would hope, and not last week) but you know what I mean. I really believe the kid is a real jerk and I have no respect for somebody that contradicts himself so much and treats people like cr@p! He needs to get popped just like his brother did and, more than once! After a pop, he will calm down w/ his mouth. After one pop he won't slow down with his aggressive driving and anticts, but if someone else pops him (another time or a couple more), he will begin to see the picture. I for one would do it, just to have him shut his mouth. He's worked hard and lucky to be where he's at and takes the situation for granted. Geez, he get's under my skin (maybe that's what he likes).

[JB760]

Anyone think he's the next Dale Sr.?

[brown_e]

Nope, he won't gain the respect of the racers! Plus he has no pull w/ Nascar and while Dale Jr. is racing, Kyle will not have any reign in popularity, unlike Sr.

[Chris Tobin]

Anyone think he's the next Dale Sr.?

NOPE!!! Not at all!!!

[randy s]

both of those busch guys are weenies. jimmy spencer outta enter one more race so he can b---- slap the other one too. straighten out that other eye. maybe i'm just jealous that kyle always has great lookin' sleaze kittys on his arm.lol.

[fishd00d]

When you have $$$ and fame it dosent matter what you look like lol

It seems like Kyle is trying to be the "badass" type but he just dosent fit the picture. Maybe he should get some tattoos!

[randy s]

Anyone think he's the next Dale Sr.?

dale sr. was a man. k.b.? not so much. senior was'nt annoying like kyle. a different kind of arrogance and sense of self-confidence with senior. i think kyle is trying a bit too hard to piss people off in an effort to be like sr.

[JB760]

Kurt might fit the picture. I always root for him and get a kick out of him battling with tony stewart.

[Andy McMillin]

He is a baller. The posts in this thread remind me of the "how good is BJ thread". They both have their haters, but they both can drive the freakin wheels off a racecar! If Kyle Busch came on here and said what BJ said in reply to his thread, would he get praised like BJ?

[Ziggy]

He is a great driver despite his youthful antics.After his big mistake on Sunday he has shown that he still has a long way to go before he earns a championship.

[m80ondirt]

Both Kyle and Kurt are very immature!! Kyle is obviously struck from the same mold as Kurt. Kurt is the only Nascar champion who receives no respect at all from media and fellow racers. The fact is Kyle can drive the crap out of the COT, it is a terribly handling chassis, I can't even imagine running on bump stops on asphalt! I believe that when nascar get's a better chassis Kyle will be in trouble as his age and experience will catch up with him, he has not stuck his car in enough situations yet to keep him from doing the "daredevil"moves. It is his lack of experience that has propelled him this far. His crew is always trying to get him to slow down, he won't. His luck will run out and he will fall back in line. When it does he will be an "also ran" like his older brother, who is rich, has the "scoreboard", but has the experience now to know when to back it down.
We all learned at some point "slower is faster", he has just not wrecked enough to learn yet.

[Mumzy]

Kyle needs to accept who he REALLY is......

He can drive right there with the best of them, but the guy is a dork.
What Kyle really needs to do is grow some pork chop side burns, get a perm and start wearing thick 60's style glasses and a pocket protector.....

....then don the helmet and drive just as he is driving now.

Quit telling the press how cool you are Kyle.....tell us your a dork, and you would be a systems analysts or chemist if you weren't driving race cars.

Wait till Kyle jumps behind the wheel of a TT someday?????

[Andy McMillin]

No offense, but you guys are all retarded. A good buddy of mine, Brian Ickler, hangs out with Kyle Busch and is very good friends with him. If Kyle is a dork, then you are saying that my friend Brian is a dork. Brian says Kyle is so down to earth and so cool, he wants to come out to the desert and race Trophy Trucks! All you guys need to get a freakin life and stop wishing that you were in KB's shoes!!!

[michael_loomis]

Relax Andy.. I dont know Brian or Kyle, but from the interviews most of us have seen, they conduct themselves VERY differently..

I hope KB DOES come out and give TT a shot.. I'm sure with his talent he will grow into it and hold his own, its what any good racer does.

Dont take it so personal that people dont like the attitude of a friend of a friend. Its NOT a knock on you or Brian.

[fishd00d]

No offense, but you guys are all retarded. A good buddy of mine, Brian Ickler, hangs out with Kyle Busch and is very good friends with him. If Kyle is a dork, then you are saying that my friend Brian is a dork. Brian says Kyle is so down to earth and so cool, he wants to come out to the desert and race Trophy Trucks! All you guys need to get a freakin life and stop wishing that you were in KB's shoes!!!

I dont think anyone can say he dosent know how to drive. And everyone has the right to their own opinion. I dont see how that makes us "all retarded" IMO who he hangs out with does not matter, this thread was about him. Just because someone dosent like him does not mean they hate all that persons friends and people they hang out with.

I like KB and I think almost anyone in his shoes at that age and with his results would be acting a bit cocky too! I know I would!

Andy when is the next K1/Miramar race?? Tell Brian and Kyle to come....Lets do it!

[22REKid]

You know I always here all about this "Jr. Nation" thing. As a fairly new NASCAR fan I don't understand Jr Nation. Jr. basicly inhearited all of his dad's fans for the sake of his family name. He isn't the great race car driver that people make him out to be. Just getting that off of my chest:rolleyes:

Seems that most people hate KB. Lets face it, the kid is on a roll and I only think his driving will get better with maturity. He is only 23 and has a lot of years left in racing. The fans will come around in time. DW had a hard time with the fans in his career too and now is one of the most respected drivers in NASCAR history. As for his eyes not being the same shape, all I can say is.......... it worked for Lucy Liu:eek:

[RGFan]

Drama!!!:D

[Ryno]

Anyone think he's the next Dale Sr.?

That is the dumbest thing I have heard in quite a while. Dale Sr. was Dale Sr. There will not be another. Problem is nobody respects him, due to his case of diareahaa of the mouth. Maybe tape his mouth shut, and take away the "rockstar" glasses....He's a whiner, just like his brother.

He can drive anything with 4 wheels....alot like RG. Same cockyness. I think he learned alot when he hit Jr. He'll do fine, he might be the first driver that wins the cup with lack of fan support.

[Ryno]

No offense, but you guys are all retarded. A good buddy of mine, Brian Ickler, hangs out with Kyle Busch and is very good friends with him. If Kyle is a dork, then you are saying that my friend Brian is a dork. Brian says Kyle is so down to earth and so cool, he wants to come out to the desert and race Trophy Trucks! All you guys need to get a freakin life and stop wishing that you were in KB's shoes!!!

Boy oh Boy Andy...break a bone, grow a pair...I see. Maybe when you grow up more, you'll understand. Nobody is saying Brian is a dork. We are saying Kyle Busch is talented, but needs to shut his trap. Kinda like you. Running you're mouth is not very becoming for someone who alot of us respect(ed).

You remind me of Ricky Bobby...."With all due respect".......You're father, uncle, and cousin are humble people....wtf happened to you??

[Tristar Racing]

Boy oh Boy Andy...break a bone, grow a pair...I see. Maybe when you grow up more, you'll understand. Nobody is saying Brian is a dork. We are saying Kyle Busch is talented, but needs to shut his trap. Kinda like you. Running you're mouth is not very becoming for someone who alot of us respect(ed).

You remind me of Ricky Bobby...."With all due respect".......You're father, uncle, and cousin are humble people....wtf happened to you??

That isnt the real Andy McMillin is it? You have got to be kidding me...

[Combo]

When did this site turn into the Uprising?:confused::mad:

[Ziggy]

No offense, but you guys are all retarded. A good buddy of mine, Brian Ickler, hangs out with Kyle Busch and is very good friends with him. If Kyle is a dork, then you are saying that my friend Brian is a dork. Brian says Kyle is so down to earth and so cool, he wants to come out to the desert and race Trophy Trucks! All you guys need to get a freakin life and stop wishing that you were in KB's shoes!!!

Starting a sentence with"NO Offense "is always offensive and does not give you the right to call everyone a "Retard".I HAPPEN TO HAVE A DAUGHTER WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AND I RESENT THAT REMARK.GROW UP MC MILLIAN.Nice talk from a seasoned Pro.Sounds like you are the one who is a dork.

[Hemp]

I pretty much agree with the most everybody else, Kyle is a very talented racer, but I just can't ever seem to want him to win.

[Chris Tobin]

You know I always here all about this "Jr. Nation" thing. As a fairly new NASCAR fan I don't understand Jr Nation. Jr. basicly inhearited all of his dad's fans for the sake of his family name. He isn't the great race car driver that people make him out to be. Just getting that off of my chest:rolleyes:

Seems that most people hate KB. Lets face it, the kid is on a roll and I only think his driving will get better with maturity. He is only 23 and has a lot of years left in racing. The fans will come around in time. DW had a hard time with the fans in his career too and now is one of the most respected drivers in NASCAR history. As for his eyes not being the same shape, all I can say is.......... it worked for Lucy Liu:eek:

Dale Jr. is actually one heck of a driver, he won back to back Busch series championships in his ONLY 2 full time Busch series seasons and has 20 Busch series wins to go with his 17 Cup series wins and an average finish of 16.1. He finished 16th in the points in his rookie year on 2000, then finished 8th in 01, 11th in 02, 3rd in 03, 5th in 04, 19th in 05, 5th in 06 and 16th in 07 with most of the poor finishes due to changes and problems at DEI. He is the highest Hendrick driver in the standings ahead of JG and JJ which have 6-Cup championships between them. Dale Jr. had 7 CUP series wins in his first 3 full seasons.

On the other hand Kyle Busch is just the current fad and the product of some good driving, great crew and equipment from JGR, more power then the competition from Toyota and the marketing hype of Fox Sports and NASCAR. He has the points lead currently an wins but lets look deeper into his racing resume... He has no championships in NASCAR at all! He finished 20th in his rookie Cup season in 05, then 10th in 06 (last in the Chase) and 5th in 07. In 04 he finished 2nd to Martin Truex Jr in the Busch series in top of the line Hendrick equipment when Truex was driving for Chance 2 (Dale Jrs team). He has 8 career Cup series wins and an average finish of 17.0. KB had 4 CUP series wins in his first 3 full seasons.

So when you are done with the current hype KB is a good driver but not the greatest of all time or anything close to that. On paper they stack up pretty evenly but Jr seems to be a cool down to earth guy with a tremendous fan base while on the other hand KB is an arrogant punk that is currently on a roll.

The numbers don't lie and all these stats were taken directly from NASCAR.com...

Lets put this little punk who made up his own nickname in perspective! He is NOT the best driver of all time and I doubt he ever will be!

My 88 cents!

[Chris Tobin]

No offense, but you guys are all retarded. A good buddy of mine, Brian Ickler, hangs out with Kyle Busch and is very good friends with him. If Kyle is a dork, then you are saying that my friend Brian is a dork. Brian says Kyle is so down to earth and so cool, he wants to come out to the desert and race Trophy Trucks! All you guys need to get a freakin life and stop wishing that you were in KB's shoes!!!

Andy,

I know you are friends with Brian, but have you ever hung out with Kyle? How was he? I know you are a cool guy and we have talked a couple times and you were very accomidating and you don't have the image that Kyle has and neither does Brian. Kyle has the image of a spoiled, immature brat that has some driving skill, he may be of the opinion that any press is good press so he is just working this image for all he can get but it seems that way to us on the outside looking in.

I have met quite a few NASCAR drivers and Dale Jr was very nice when I met him as was Dale Sr!!!! But there are some drivers that are just jerks... Ron Hornaday was one of them and Kyle Busch seems to be one of them, I have yet to meet him in person but from what I have seen on TV he is not a good guy! Would you be willing to put Kyle in your Truck?

On a positive note, Brian seems to be kicking butt once again this year on the asphalt. Have any of the big teams picked him up yet? When can we expect to see him in an ARCA car, or Truck or Busch series car?

[kaw500]

the bad part is the we would have never heard of either bush boy if chris trickle wasn't killed i have NO respect for either one of those two total A$ the have always been jerks there dad is 10X'S worse

Sounds like someone who's been around the Bull Ring


Uh oh! You still gonna let me crash at your trailer????:D:D:D

But of course


Anyone think he's the next Dale Sr.?

HUH? Maybe the next donnie Allison:D


Drama!!!:D

Not what I expected from this thread


When did this site turn into the Uprising?:confused::mad:

Please say it aint so

[Andy McMillin]

I have a pair, thanks. I'm angry because everyone always rips on the guys who make it to the big time. And if you knew me personally, then you would know I'm a pretty humble guy, so don't get all andy on me and jump to conclusions.

As Ricky Bobby would say " that comment is about as pointless as a painting of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on!"

[michael_loomis]

well.. within the sport of off road, which this website is founded on.. I'd say, you Andy, have made it pretty big time. Not very many people rip into you, do they? not really.. and why do you think that is?

most people who have made it big in any sport, dont get ripped on unless they rub people the wrong way. Something Kyle doesn't seem to NOT be able to do.

Personally, I think its a stage that we all go through..

[RGFan]

Look, the kid can drive the shiot out of anything out there. He did not "Soul Train" anybody to get his ride, performance talks and BS walks and the guy has performed, people who do not see that are being ingorant to the facts.

With that being said, his being portrayed to be the bad guy in Nascar, this is something the media has done and IMO, not only the fans, but Kyle as well has embraced the role as the bad guy. He is brash, the younger brother of Kurt, who was also portrayed as a bad guy for several years. Instead of fighting it, he purposely goes out of his way to say things that will piss people off. He is young, cocky and he wins......No goly gee acts with this guy and that rubs the masses the wrong way. Nascar and the Media know that the fans need a bad guy in the sport and I think Kyle Busch has been designated as the bad guy. But you know what, it works for him. He makes alot of money, he is doing what he loves and he is winning. That is what it is about.

Personally I think he does come off as a smart arse who needs his arse kicked...I think it is on purpose....I do not know the guy, will not pretend to, but I have heard good and bad. The one thing I do know......Nascar is entertainment. And just because the guy is a dick on TV does not mean he is a dick in real life. There are alot of people I work with who have seen me at work, and then on the weekends, with my big jet boat, floating down the river in Parker and swear I am not the same person with my family and friends as I am at work.

To each their own and do not believe everything you read or hear, and that goes both ways;)

[michael_loomis]

no one cares that you go both ways.. sheesh :D

[Mumzy]

No offense, but you guys are all retarded. A good buddy of mine, Brian Ickler, hangs out with Kyle Busch and is very good friends with him. If Kyle is a dork, then you are saying that my friend Brian is a dork. Brian says Kyle is so down to earth and so cool, he wants to come out to the desert and race Trophy Trucks! All you guys need to get a freakin life and stop wishing that you were in KB's shoes!!!

Slow down Cowpoke.......
Just like many here our only perception of young Kyle is that which he presents on those interviews which we see on television. My comments are just that...my comments, and I will stand firm in my perception of Kyle Busch being a dork. As far as being in Kyles shows?.....no there are many others that I would rather exemplify in my manners and deed than Kyle. As far as his salary, I'm sure any one of us would enjoy the benefits of what a career as a NASCAR driver might bring. But I wouldn't give up my life for that any day!

[pdailey]

I think he is one of the most talented drivers for sure. This new car definately takes more skill to drive rather than the old car being so aerodynamic dependant. That's why drivers like, Kyle Busch, Carl Edwards, Kasey Kahne and Greg Biffle are having good years. They know how to wheel a car around rather than just relying on their crew chiefs nailing the perfect setup. I'm glad the new car is driver dependant, now we can see what a no talent Jimmie Johnson really is. Just my opinion, let the bashing begin....

[pdailey]

the bad part is the we would have never heard of either bush boy if chris trickle wasn't killed i have NO respect for either one of those two total A$ the have always been jerks there dad is 10X'S worse

And sorry Lucas, I have to root for him. He uses my oil pumps...LOL

[Ziggy]

Andy,

I know you are friends with Brian, but have you ever hung out with Kyle? How was he? I know you are a cool guy and we have talked a couple times and you were very accomidating and you don't have the image that Kyle has and neither does Brian. Kyle has the image of a spoiled, immature brat that has some driving skill, he may be of the opinion that any press is good press so he is just working this image for all he can get but it seems that way to us on the outside looking in.

I have met quite a few NASCAR drivers and Dale Jr was very nice when I met him as was Dale Sr!!!! But there are some drivers that are just jerks... Ron Hornaday was one of them and Kyle Busch seems to be one of them, I have yet to meet him in person but from what I have seen on TV he is not a good guy! Would you be willing to put Kyle in your Truck?

On a positive note, Brian seems to be kicking butt once again this year on the asphalt. Have any of the big teams picked him up yet? When can we expect to see him in an ARCA car, or Truck or Busch series car?


Sounds like someone who's been around the Bull Ring



But of course



HUH? Maybe the next donnie Allison:D



Not what I expected from this thread



Please say it aint so


Look, the kid can drive the shiot out of anything out there. He did not "Soul Train" anybody to get his ride, performance talks and BS walks and the guy has performed, people who do not see that are being ingorant to the facts.

With that being said, his being portrayed to be the bad guy in Nascar, this is something the media has done and IMO, not only the fans, but Kyle as well has embraced the role as the bad guy. He is brash, the younger brother of Kurt, who was also portrayed as a bad guy for several years. Instead of fighting it, he purposely goes out of his way to say things that will piss people off. He is young, cocky and he wins......No goly gee acts with this guy and that rubs the masses the wrong way. Nascar and the Media know that the fans need a bad guy in the sport and I think Kyle Busch has been designated as the bad guy. But you know what, it works for him. He makes alot of money, he is doing what he loves and he is winning. That is what it is about.

Personally I think he does come off as a smart arse who needs his arse kicked...I think it is on purpose....I do not know the guy, will not pretend to, but I have heard good and bad. The one thing I do know......Nascar is entertainment. And just because the guy is a dick on TV does not mean he is a dick in real life. There are alot of people I work with who have seen me at work, and then on the weekends, with my big jet boat, floating down the river in Parker and swear I am not the same person with my family and friends as I am at work.

To each their own and do not believe everything you read or hear, and that goes both ways;)

You three guys bust my chops and call me a racist and a prejudice whatever when I make a comment about a sue happy bovine.Mc Millian calls everyone "Retards" and there not a peep from any one of you.Its either a nice orderly "Good Old Boys Club" and you three are being too PC to say anything about the prejudice,racist comments Mc Millian made or else you three are simply kissing his ASS and are afraid to say anything because you are cowards.Looks like prejudice and double standards to me.
Have a good day.

[RGFan]

You three guys bust my chops and call me a racist and a prejudice whatever when I make a comment about a sue happy bovine.Mc Millian calls everyone "Retards" and there not a peep from any one of you.Its either a nice orderly "Good Old Boys Club" and you three are being too PC to say anything about the prejudice,racist comments Mc Millian made or else you three are simply kissing his ASS and are afraid to say anything because you are cowards.Looks like prejudice and double standards to me.
Have a good day.


Ziggy, that is the most ignorant response I have ever heard if you are infact serious. Read my response again, with the blinders off so to speak. Racist comments.......LMAO!!!! Your either trying to be hilarious......, you are ignorant or you have lost it completely. I said what was on my mind, plain and simple. Just because nobody agrees with you does not mean they themselves are racists. McMillin made the same comments he always does when he gets worked up about something on these boards. They were not racist.........A little immature, a little insensitive, yeah, he was. I expect nothing less from a guy his age. Since when was being immature a crime. Get over yourself and move on.

And just for your info, I did not call you out, I questioned the reason you were posting in the first place, you made no sense at all what so ever;) Still am questioning why exactly you post, you have done nothing but make these boards a shioty place to come since you got here.

[racer951]

And...big surprise...Busch wrecks someone's race once again. This time he took out Hornaday on the last lap. Ron went from 6th or 7th to 23rd.

[Brandon Johnson]

I am not a fan of his as i said in a different thread. He is however a very talented driver that does whatever it takes to win which is also taking out other drivers. Thats the reason I am not a fan, no respect for other drivers, but he is very talented none the less

[racer951]

I am not a fan of his as i said in a different thread. He is however a very talented driver that does whatever it takes to win which is also taking out other drivers. Thats the reason I am not a fan, no respect for other drivers, but he is very talented none the less

Exactly, great talent but no respect and little maturity.

[RGFan]

Can not argue with that

[alan4s]

I am not a fan of his as i said in a different thread. He is however a very talented driver that does whatever it takes to win which is also taking out other drivers. Thats the reason I am not a fan, no respect for other drivers, but he is very talented none the less

He will get his payback sooner or later, and maybe that will knock a bit of maturity into him. He can wheel a car, but he doesn't make too many friends on the track.

I do have to say that his take-no-prisoners driving is one of the few things that have made the races interesting to watch this year.

[Tristar Racing]

Anyone, ANYONE who wants to discuss Kyle Busch's place in nascar history is free to do so, lets start with today. Wrecks a truck regular, than loses his car running second in Busch (Nationwide). I do not want to hear another Earnhardt Sr. or any other driver comparison, until this ass hat can at least drive a month without screwing up something that is completely controllable.

A lot of skill, but a complete moron...

[Mike @ pit b]

busch.

hehehehe:D:D:D:D:D

[RGFan]

I have to admit, after seeing what he did to Hornaday.............That was pretty chicken ****, that was not just a "racing" incident. Not only does he have to look over his shoulder with Hornaday in the Truck Series, but now he has to look over his shoulder with Harvick now on Sundays, with Harvick being the owner of Hornadays truck. And you never want to be on Harvick's bad side, I think most of us have seen the results of that several times with RG, and RG was a teammate

[kaw500]

Kyle's weekend not going the same way Tiger's is. I spent too much time watching golf this week but saw KB's highlite reel. The legend grows on the grass and the asphalt.

[E&S Racing]

Say what you want about the guy and his attitude, but that boy can drive. I have been very impressed with his season thus far and I am sure it is only going to continue. With that said, remeber we only see him for a few hours on the TV. We don't know what he is like at home or away from the track. It would be nice to see some of the cup guys come out and play in the desert a few times...I'd like to see Kyle drive a TT that's for sure.

[RGFan]

I do not think any body disagrees with you, That sentiment has been explained a half a dozen times in this post.

[kaw500]

Quote Clint Bowyer, San Jose Mercury News 6/15/08;
"Jeff Gordon, you either love him or hate him, but bottom line you respect him. Clint Bowyer said. Kyle Busch is winning races and he's on top, but there's not love-hate relationship. It has nothing to do with his performance on the track. People don't respect him because of the things he does when he gets out of the race car"

[E&S Racing]

I do not think any body disagrees with you, That sentiment has been explained a half a dozen times in this post.


Sorry didn't know I couldn't state my opinion...

[RGFan]

Sorry didn't know I couldn't state my opinion...

Not a problem, but why chastise us like none of us have mentioned that aspect of it all before

[E&S Racing]

Not a problem, but why chastise us like none of us have mentioned that aspect of it all before


I was just chiming in..You think that is chastising?????

[Ziggy]

I was just chiming in..You think that is chastising?????

E&S.These guys are really sensitive if you dont agree with them.How dare any of us have the mind to have an opinion that might be different than the way they think.
Good post.

[RGFan]

[quote=E&S Racing;472007]I was just chiming in..You think that is chastising?????[/quot

That is all any of us are doing, chiming in, your the one who made the comment in the first place.

[RGFan]

E&S.These guys are really sensitive if you dont agree with them.How dare any of us have the mind to have an opinion that might be different than the way they think.
Good post.

Hah......Ziggy I think you got it backwards......We all like opinions here, just not racist rants like yours and then you crying a like a big baby about it after nobody agrees with you.

[Ziggy]

You and chumps like opinions as long as they agree with yours.Juvenile at best.Thats why I laugh hope that you will mature a little.
Thats my opinion.

[RGFan]

You and chumps like opinions as long as they agree with yours.Juvenile at best.Thats why I laugh hope that you will mature a little.
Thats my opinion.

Ha ha ha!!!!You are comical, I will give you that "Oh Mature One"

[Ryno]

Okay, this is getting lame. One of the great things about our country is the ability to freely express one's opinion. It is just that, your opinion. If you can't handle someone else having something else to say without getting personal, leave it out.

On that same note, I will apologize for ripping Andy Mc's a** on this thread. Andy, I've never met you, seen you race alot. You have talent, but keep friends of your friends out of stuff, it only brings people into things.

KB is one of a kind. I always thought a nickname stuck because someone else gave it to you, not because it was self-proclaimed. Maybe he see's Tony Stewart, and things he can pull it off. People will start to get him back, just a matter of time.

[E&S Racing]

[quote=E&S Racing;472007]I was just chiming in..You think that is chastising?????[/quot

That is all any of us are doing, chiming in, your the one who made the comment in the first place.

Not sure what the problem was with my post or if I "made a comment" that might have offended you or anyone else on this board. Sorry that you had to take a whole 10 seconds to read my post and that within those 10 seconds you were put off for some reason.

With that said I simply stated what I thought about Kyle Bush, which is what I thought the thread was about, but I guess not. Sorry RGFan to upset you or make you feel like I was "Chastising you". I understand where you are coming from now and I will watch what I say in my post.

Now back to the thread at hand, however please no one state their opinon because your opinion might have already been said by someone else within the thread and since it has already been said by someone else within the thread you can't repeat it and are no longer entitled to your opinion. Sorry but I think those are the rules.


**There is a hint of sarcasm in my post**

[Ziggy]

:D:D:D.I luv it.
I wonder if OPINION is taken on a California license plate?

[RGFan]

[quote=RGFan;472167]

Not sure what the problem was with my post or if I "made a comment" that might have offended you or anyone else on this board. Sorry that you had to take a whole 10 seconds to read my post and that within those 10 seconds you were put off for some reason.

With that said I simply stated what I thought about Kyle Bush, which is what I thought the thread was about, but I guess not. Sorry RGFan to upset you or make you feel like I was "Chastising you". I understand where you are coming from now and I will watch what I say in my post.

Now back to the thread at hand, however please no one state their opinon because your opinion might have already been said by someone else within the thread and since it has already been said by someone else within the thread you can't repeat it and are no longer entitled to your opinion. Sorry but I think those are the rules.


**There is a hint of sarcasm in my post**

No need to get all moist about this. I guess none of us can respond to anything anymore unless we like Kyle Busch or think that the good ole boys of nascar are getting scammed by a black woman (yes, the last one was directed at you Ziggy)

[E&S Racing]

No need to get all moist about this. I guess none of us can respond to anything anymore unless we like Kyle Busch or think that the good ole boys of nascar are getting scammed by a black woman (yes, the last one was directed at you Ziggy)

You don't even deserve a reply anymore...

[RGFan]

To much drama for me, have fun guys

[Ziggy]

[quote=E&S Racing;472714]

No need to get all moist about this. I guess none of us can respond to anything anymore unless we like Kyle Busch or think that the good ole boys of nascar are getting scammed by a black woman (yes, the last one was directed at you Ziggy)

Cracks me up.You cant quit now.:D:D:D

[Tristar Racing]

225 Million dollars? You tell me that isnt a scam. She might have gone through some off color jokes and things, but 225 million?

As for the drama, lets all calm down. No need to get riled up about the dorkiest looking "bad boy" of Nascar. Seriously, its the equivilent of going into a high school, picking a skinney nerd from the math team, throwing some ridiculous sun glasses on him, and letting him act like he is cool.

The boy can drive, but what a tool... :)

[michael_loomis]

Its like Jon Heder and Jeff Gordon had a baby together!! :D

[bajafox]

All I care about is that he keeps putting Toyota's in Victory Lane!:D

[Andy McMillin]

So, after yesterday's race, what do all the haters have to say now about Kyle Busch? And I love the guy who said the only reason he is winning is because the COT drives like crap, and he's good at driving vehicles that drive like **[IMG]http://cdn3.race-dezert.com/forum/images/mexico-flag.png[/IMG] [I]¡Ay, caramba![/I]****[IMG]http://cdn3.race-dezert.com/forum/images/mexico-flag.png[/IMG] [I]¡Ay, caramba![/I]****[IMG]http://cdn3.race-dezert.com/forum/images/mexico-flag.png[/IMG] [I]¡Ay, caramba![/I]****[IMG]http://cdn3.race-dezert.com/forum/images/mexico-flag.png[/IMG] [I]¡Ay, caramba![/I]****[IMG]http://cdn3.race-dezert.com/forum/images/mexico-flag.png[/IMG] [I]¡Ay, caramba![/I]**... If so, then why does he have 4 BUSCH wins with 4 DIFFERENT TEAMS!!!?????? And a couple of TRUCK wins on top of that. You guys are witnessing one of the best drivers in racing today, he just one on a road course! Let's hear everyone rip on him now on why he shouldn't have won and how lucky he is that he did win....

[puravida]

So, after yesterday's race, what do all the haters have to say now about Kyle Busch? And I love the guy who said the only reason he is winning is because the COT drives like crap, and he's good at driving vehicles that drive like ... If so, then why does he have 4 BUSCH wins with 4 DIFFERENT TEAMS!!!?????? And a couple of TRUCK wins on top of that. You guys are witnessing one of the best drivers in racing today, he just one on a road course! Let's hear everyone rip on him now on why he shouldn't have won and how lucky he is that he did win....

AMEN !!!! he also had Montoya behind him for a handfull of laps and the " PRO " couldn't even close the gap.... JR was funny calling Montoya " the pro " when he was following him on the final laps. Klye Busch is the real deal.

#18 & #7

[kaw500]

Rowdy is that good.

I still think anyone who gives themselves a nickname is a knucklehead.

Rowdy is that good.

To bad the guy I root for is not having as much fun.

[RGFan]

Here is a pic of the winner in victory lane

[bajafox]

Did anyone notice they were cheering after he won instead of booing?

Toyota back in Victory Lane:D

[fishd00d]

He did a great job and as long as he can keep his cool the rest of the season he should be in good shape!

[michael_loomis]

Man that kid can drive! and the little bow at the end is starting to grow on me. If only he would stop wrecking people, I could probably root for the guy. Maybe one day I can find a way to look the other way when he flaps his gums like a douche, or maybe Gibbs can get him straightened out in the next year.

[racer951]

So, after yesterday's race, what do all the haters have to say now about Kyle Busch? And I love the guy who said the only reason he is winning is because the COT drives like crap, and he's good at driving vehicles that drive like ... If so, then why does he have 4 BUSCH wins with 4 DIFFERENT TEAMS!!!?????? And a couple of TRUCK wins on top of that. You guys are witnessing one of the best drivers in racing today, he just one on a road course! Let's hear everyone rip on him now on why he shouldn't have won and how lucky he is that he did win....

Uh, are you reading the same thread as everyone else? In 9 pages maybe 2 or 3 posts question his driving skills while the rest praise them.

People were talking about him being a douschebag, then you called everyone retards because Ickler says he cool. He may be cool in person, may not be, I don't know just like you probably don't either. What we all know is that he acts like a moron on TV and in this day & age, perception is reality. Great driver, but immature in the spotlight just like a few others in NASCAR. So am I a retard or a hater now?

[Total Loss]

F- Buschy.
Yes I am a hater.
You can quote me on that.
My hatred was especially enhanced when he took Ron Hornaday out last week (while in a championship race).
His brother got taken down a few notches and he will too.
My prognostication- He will get hurt some day.
Karma baby- Karma.....

[RGFan]

I'm just bummed that nobody liked my picture:D

[Chris Tobin]

I'm just bummed that nobody liked my picture:D

I think it was insulting!!!!























To E.T.!:D

[Andy McMillin]

I think he acts like any racecar driver would that is 22 years old.

[randy s]

i think kyle is just one of those guys that no one really liked in school. or maybe did'nt pay much attention to. maybe even had his a-- handed to him. he's got a kind of "what do you think about me now?" attitude. for me, he's hard to like, but easy to admire for his skills. but he'll cool off. they all do.

[michael_loomis]

hahaha.. Andy.. c'mon.. put the shovel down buddy!

I doubt guys like Ickler, Logano, yourself, are going to GAIN additudes by the age of 22 because you guys race cars/trucks.

And speaking of racecars.. when are you going to give roundy round a try?

[Andy McMillin]

I told Brian that if he were ever to become a Shrimp Boat Cap'n, I would be his first mate!

I swear I am done with the worthless comments to this thread!

[Mumzy]

So, after yesterday's race, what do all the haters have to say now about Kyle Busch? And I love the guy who said the only reason he is winning is because the COT drives like crap, and he's good at driving vehicles that drive like ... If so, then why does he have 4 BUSCH wins with 4 DIFFERENT TEAMS!!!?????? And a couple of TRUCK wins on top of that. You guys are witnessing one of the best drivers in racing today, he just one on a road course! Let's hear everyone rip on him now on why he shouldn't have won and how lucky he is that he did win....

Andy...Kyle is a GREAT driver....and he will most likely win the Cup Championship...of which he deserves.....




....but he's still a DORK!

[Andy McMillin]

I do not think that we (anybody on race-dezert or any public message forum where people write crap about other people) have the right to call anyone a DORK. That's just my opinion, even though he probably seems like a dork to some of you.

[fishd00d]

Everyone just knows what they see on tv and hear about him. IMO people like KB should know that people are going to judge him by the way he acts on tv and in interviews since thats all they know of him and he should act the way he wants people to see him. If he wants to act the way he does then people are going to think about him the way they do.....pretty simple.

btw I am not a KB hater....

[michael_loomis]

No offense, but you guys are all retarded.


I do not think that we (anybody on race-dezert or any public message forum where people write crap about other people) have the right to call anyone a DORK.

so someone please help me with my internet etiquette... dork is a no no.. but retarded.. is ok?

soooo Andy, intentionally off topic.. if the knee is better and you wanna do some one on one.. I'm game.. :D

[michael_loomis]

let me just add this... I like competition, I like racing of all sorts, thus I pick drivers who are entertaining to watch to cheer on. I like the show they put on for whatever reason they may be.. Kind like RG.. far from a roll model citizen, the way he rubs people (pardon the pun) but the guy is exciting as heck to watch behind the wheel.

It really doesn't matter what these guys do off the track to me, but how exciting they are on the track that allures me to them. Soon as he stops running people off the track, he will be one of the sports best drivers in my eyes. I think he is becoming a dominant Cup driver.

Cream will rise to the top, so he will be fairly good in anything, just dont see him being good in an F1 car at the ripe old age of 22 :)

[Andy McMillin]

I am self destructing in the middle of a thread! Crap!

By the way, great reply Fish! I will take note of your words and stop talking about this subject.

Michael, I just started plyometrics training at physical therapy (jumping and landing on two feet). I am about 6 months away from a legitimate 1-on-1 match. I will keep you posted!

[michael_loomis]

damn.. middle of the thread? so your saying this is gonna go on for another 11 pages! Wheeeeewwww thats a relief!!

heh.. wish you the best of luck with the plywoodandmetrics training.. gives me 6 months to shed the beer gut and work on my verticle. we cant have any excuses when I dunk on you :)

[RGFan]

Who the hell cares about this BS.....Do you guys like the picture?:D All joking aside, man that kid drove one hell of a race yesterday....From being total crap on Friday and Saturday to that was just fricken amazing. And he still was mouthing off after the race, calling Harvick out for the tirade in Michigan. Love him or hate him, the guy can drive the shiot out of a race car and is driving at a different level then everyone else. If anybody wants to question his ability, remember this.......This is the same team that JJ Yeley drove for last year. Same COT's, different grill and stickers, the same team that finished 21st in the standings last year. He still comes off as a punk, but as I stated weeks ago, that is age and a role which I think has been thrust upon him by Nascar......A role he probably has accepted. All good sports need a bad guy, and the worst kind of bad guy is a bad guy that wins.....He and Nascar are taking it all the way to the bank. JMHO

[Frank L Young]

I read someplace, "Nobody gets off turn 4 faster than Kyle Busch!"

[BANNED4LIFE]

I read someplace, "Nobody gets off turn 4 faster than Kyle Busch!"

fly back under an alias????? i thought you were the new king of BRN???????????????? with your twin brother.............

[Ziggy]

He did a decent interview.Unless they wreck him he is going to be hard to beat.
He may not be the most handsome young man but his girlfriend is a cutie.

[Ryno]

Not even his own brother would help him. (Last 5 laps of the race tonight) Ha! His Girlfriend is hot, we'll get a first rate education in how long a girl will last on money alone.

[Shotdsherrif]

Damn, he wins again and I want to talk even more crap about him. If he turns his head so his eyes are straight then this chin is at a close to 45 degree angle. I guess AM a hater. Good race though.

[Ryno]

Damn, he wins again and I want to talk even more crap about him. If he turns his head so his eyes are straight then this chin is at a close to 45 degree angle. I guess AM a hater. Good race though.

I was thinking when he wears the brown M&M's suit again...strap some antlers on his head. He'd be a dead looker for a white tail....maybe somebody will have a rifle at the track...LOL

[b-makk]

Say what you want. Bottom line (again) is ....Rowdy Busch in Victory Lane!!

[pdailey]

Not even his own brother would help him. (Last 5 laps of the race tonight) Ha! His Girlfriend is hot, we'll get a first rate education in how long a girl will last on money alone.

Just goes to show how good he is. he doesn't even need help to win a restrictor plate race. Kyle rocks!!!

[Brandon Johnson]

damn that guy is good and lucky! I am still not a fan but I will give that idiot some credit as a GREAT driver.
It was pretty funny how the whole crowd was booing him as he got out of the car after the race

[Chris Tobin]

Everyone seems to want to hand him the Cup Trophy already but remember how he has done in the chase so far... And also remember how big of a lead Jeff G had going into the chase last year and didn't win the Cup...:eek:

I think KB won daytona because he was in the right place at the right time, he didn't win the GWC based on his amazing driving skill. He did however make that amazine on the apron save with luck and his driving skill so if not for that save he wouldn't have won.

[pdailey]

Everyone seems to want to hand him the Cup Trophy already but remember how he has done in the chase so far... And also remember how big of a lead Jeff G had going into the chase last year and didn't win the Cup...:eek:

I think KB won daytona becaust he was in the right place at the right time, he didn't win the GWC based on his amazing driving skill. He did however make that amazine on the apron save with luck and his driving skill so if not for that save he wouldn't have won.

I think he will do much better in the Chase whis year now that he doesn't have to play third fiddle to Gordon and Johnson.

[Chris Tobin]

I think he will do much better in the Chase whis year now that he doesn't have to play third fiddle to Gordon and Johnson.

Could be, time will tell. Personally I don't like the guy, but he can drive and the extra Toyota HP isn't hurting anything at all for him!:eek:

[Racer21(Roberto)]

yeah, the toyotas are really powerful.

but there's no doubt he's awsome. 6 races this year..... in the sprint cup.

also finished second in nationwide race. 2nd favorite driver now. robby gordon and tony stewart are tied for first.

[KB]

Everyone seems to want to hand him the Cup Trophy already but remember how he has done in the chase so far... And also remember how big of a lead Jeff G had going into the chase last year and didn't win the Cup...:eek:

I think KB won daytona because he was in the right place at the right time, he didn't win the GWC based on his amazing driving skill. He did however make that amazine on the apron save with luck and his driving skill so if not for that save he wouldn't have won.

haha! running in top ten most of the night is luck now! haha:cool:

[michael_loomis]

KB is on fire! Did you see the guy run up to the fence as he grabbed the checkers and give him a meaningful double finger salute?? The more people throw and talk smack about him, the more I want to defend the guy.. the kid can DRIVE!

and I havent heard anything stupid come out of his mouth in a couple weeks! Gibbs is getting this kid straightened out.

Just dont bring out F1 anymore KB.. :D

[bajafox]

I had 2 tv's set up in our living room and there were 3 KB haters in the room. One tv was set up for the race and the other one was for the UFC PPV. When Kyle got shuffled all the way to the back everyone started talking crap but I knew he still had a chance to move to the front. One guy is a 48 fan and was talking all kinds of crap about KB and RG. I usually keep my mouth shut until the last 10 or so laps. He was real quiet at the end, RG top 10, KB wins and the 48 in 23rd:D

I became a KB fan the day he signed to drive a Toyota, I had no idea he'd win 6 races this year but I'm loving it!:) Now I know what it feels like to be a Jeff or Jimmie fan, win alot and everyone hate you for it. Kyle's attitude has room for improvement but it's what he does on the track that matters most

[Ryan_P]

KB is on fire! Did you see the guy run up to the fence as he grabbed the checkers and give him a meaningful double finger salute?? The more people throw and talk smack about him, the more I want to defend the guy.. the kid can DRIVE!

and I havent heard anything stupid come out of his mouth in a couple weeks! Gibbs is getting this kid straightened out.

Just dont bring out F1 anymore KB.. :D

The more people bash the kid, the harder he's going to work to throw in back in everyone's face. Everytime he wins and people throw stuff at him and onto the track, and that's doing is feeding his ego and his strive to win.

He's 23 years old, and winning races in the hardest series of them all. He'll be around for another 25+ years, so get used to him.

[Racer21(Roberto)]

i agree with kyle petty and what he said while kyle was jogging up to the flag stand. he can't keep winning and still be hated.
i say he's the modern day dale earhardt if there ever was one, but people disagree because he's only 23.

oh yeah, i was also a Kyle busch fan the moment that he signed with JGR, but i still hate toyota, no matter how good they do in NASCAR. im a chevy guy, sorry. :/

[pdailey]

i agree with kyle petty and what he said while kyle was jogging up to the flag stand. he can't keep winning and still be hated.
i say he's the modern day dale earhardt if there ever was one, but people disagree because he's only 23.

oh yeah, i was also a Kyle busch fan the moment that he signed with JGR, but i still hate toyota, no matter how good they do in NASCAR. im a chevy guy, sorry. :/

I definately think he is the next DE. Too bad you don't like Toyota.

[Racer21(Roberto)]

im just too loyal to chevy. it doesn't really matter though in so called "stock-car" racing now. every car is exactly the same, and if kyle busch was in a ford, chevy, toyota or dodge, he still would have won.

if you wanna see stock car racing go to an SCCA race. awsome racing.

[KB]

KB is on fire! Did you see the guy run up to the fence as he grabbed the checkers and give him a meaningful double finger salute?? The more people throw and talk smack about him, the more I want to defend the guy.. the kid can DRIVE!

and I havent heard anything stupid come out of his mouth in a couple weeks! Gibbs is getting this kid straightened out.

Just dont bring out F1 anymore KB.. :D

i agree haha. cant help but to like the way he eats up all the negativity.:D

[randy s]

I definately think he is the next DE. Too bad you don't like Toyota.

kyle busch is'nt tough enough to be another dale sr. if i did'nt like something that kyle pulled on me in a race, i would'nt hesitate to knock him on his a--. sr? not so much. kyle pisses people off for completely different reasons than sr. did. i can't see kyle spinning labonte out on purpose like sr. did and saying that he just wanted to "ring his bell" a bit or something like that. i don't think that seeing kyle puckers up your a--hole when you see him closing on you in your mirror like sr. did. i do think however that kyle's skills would certainly match up as well or maybe better at the same stages in their careers. but kyle aint no dale sr. no matter how obnoxious he is while he's interviewed or after he wins races. just my unqualified opinion.

[AllwaysRcn]

like sr. did and saying that he just wanted to "ring his bell" a bit or something like that.

"rattle his cage" :)

[Racer21(Roberto)]

i dont care about the driver's attitude, but it does help to be a little cocky. kyle, he is the cochiest driver ever but at least he can back it up.

i think a lot of people would see kyle differentyl is he were older.

[kaw500]

"rattle his cage" :)

I miss #3

[Chris Tobin]

I miss #3

Me 3!!!!!!:D

[michael_loomis]

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[Total Loss]

I definately think he is the next DE. Too bad you don't like Toyota.

How can you compare a "metrosexual" with the "Intimidator" ?

[22REKid]

I can't really fathom why people still don't like Toyota. Jack Roush is one of my favorite haters. Rusty Wallace was saying a couple weeks ago in a Nationwide race that some of the Ford, Chevy and Dodge guys are starting to complain that the Toyotas have too much power and they don't think it's fair. That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard! Quit griping and step up to the plate and make a better engine. I know that Chevy is working on something. I think it is dumb and immature that people get so worked up about the Japanese making a Pushrod OHV engine better than good ol' boys. Toyota has actually been making Pushrod OHV engines for a long time. We all know that if the rules allowed overhead cams, Toyota would dominate even more than thew are now. I think more teams will make the switch to Toyota in 2010. Chevy can have Tony Stewart as far as I am concerned. I would like to see Dave Blaney do a little better.

[pdailey]

You know whats funny is that Toyota isn't really making that much more power than everyone else if they are even making more power. This isn't a Toyota, Ford, Chevy, Dodge thing. It is a good ol fashioned ass whooping being displayed by Joe Gibbs Racing this year. We know hoe many races they have won this year, but there are also a couple more races that were in the bag before some bad luck struck (i.e. Bristol w/ Denny Hamlin) Kyle Busch is legit, the new car suits his driving style. Tony Stewart will have a hard time at Haas/CNC next year and beyond. I hope Joey Lagano takes over for Tony Stewart next year. That kid is going to be the next best thing. Jack Roush needs to quit bitching about Toyota and figure out how to beat Joe Gibbs Racing.

[fishd00d]

Tell KB to bring it out to K1!!! I will whoop his ass!!!

[pdailey]

Tell KB to bring it out to K1!!! I will whoop his ass!!!

LOL, HELL YEAH!!!!

[michael_loomis]

wow... Fish is even cockier than ole crooked eye!

dont MAKE me enlist the help of the 26 second lap guys... :)

[fishd00d]

Those are the guys that work there lol. BRING IT. Andy call up your buddy and find out when and where KB wants to race!

[brown_e]

For you gentelmen talking about the Toyota's. We let me just tell you Nascar has taken the cars to the dyno and the Toyota's have around 15 more rear wheel horsepower than the chevy's, dodge's and ford's (per the request of Chevy, Ford and Dodge) Next year will be different, i believe. Nascar made a mistake by letting an illegal Toyota craftsmen truck (nothing against Toyota) motor w/ a little bit of work be allowed to compete in CUP and Nationwide. Chevy doesn't use the same motors in the Nationwide and CUP series, but is trying too. Ford, does, but they complain and I am not sure on Dodge. Toyota was smart and Nascar let them get away w/ a little and we are seeing the advantage. If you want to argue read the NASCAR Scene and you will find out more about this.

[pdailey]

That extra 15 more horsepower is not the reason JGR are winning. NASCAR is all about turning and that is dependant on the indiviual teams and the cars that they build. JGR did their homework with the new cars and are reaping the rewards with thier dominance this year!!!!

[Demp]

Tell KB to bring it out to K1!!! I will whoop his ass!!!

where was i??? come to K1 in Irvine or Anaheim! :D

[Chris Tobin]

That extra 15 more horsepower is not the reason JGR are winning. NASCAR is all about turning and that is dependant on the indiviual teams and the cars that they build. JGR did their homework with the new cars and are reaping the rewards with thier dominance this year!!!!

Actually Roush says that the extra power allows them to build more drag into the cars for better handling but still have the same speed because they have more power to push the cars through the air... Seems sensible to me.

[RGFan]

Tell KB to bring it out to K1!!! I will whoop his ass!!!

What are you going to do.......Break out the S-15 (LOL):D....In your case that probably means breaking out the S-10.............As in Chevy S-10 (just having fun man)

[pdailey]

Actually Roush says that the extra power allows them to build more drag into the cars for better handling but still have the same speed because they have more power to push the cars through the air... Seems sensible to me.

I call B.S. Unless someone other than Roush (chief anti-Toyota leader) claims that. Also, then what is the problem for the rest of the Toyota teams?

[fishd00d]

You see the S15 work last week???? Tell KB to bring it!!

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5118/cimg5244qm5.jpg

[RGFan]

That had nothing to do with any secret weapon....RG's restrictor plate program has been very solid for the last couple of years, and this finish was almost identical to the February race at Daytona. There has not been a single finish as of yet where there has been any sign of substantial performance improvements over the past 2 months. He sucks early, is better late, to late to do anything about it. That has been RGM's story all season. Besides, secret weapons have been banned by Nascrap, penalties have been severe and one more penalty would put RG out of business.

[michael_loomis]

I mean, I know I'm not exactly heavy.. but look at those little suckers!! I'm almost taller even from the 3rd podium position!!

Robby was right... Danica definately has a weight advantage! LOL

[Ryno]

I mean, I know I'm not exactly heavy.. but look at those little suckers!! I'm almost taller even from the 3rd podium position!!

Robby was right... Danica definately has a weight advantage! LOL

You guys need to EAT.

Gibbs did his homework. When has he ever shown up with a pile for a car? It's not a Toyota/Chevy/Ford/Dodge thing. It's who has the best program. If it was a toyota thing...what happened with MWR? You really start to see drivers better though. Reutimann and Vickers both have stood out this year. No wins, but strong running.

Kyle needs to grow up. Maybe quit trying to play badass, shutup and race, and let them call you by your real name, Kyle. Rowdy is reserved for people who can fight their way out of a wet paper bag.

[pdailey]

Just wanted to BUMP this back to the top after Chicago. Another victory for Kyle Busch!!!!! HAHAHAHHAHAHA, that's for all you haters!!!

[dislocated1]

Kyle needs to ........... shutup and race


7 wins in a season is not "racing" enough for you!!!! hahahahahahaha

[E&S Racing]

Kyle got another one...

[DEZERTSUB]

How does that kid do it???

[woundedyak]

If he keeps this up, he's going to have a 80-100 point lead by the time the chase starts. Can't belive he made that stick on the restart. The kid is pissing talent this year. Let's just see if he can carrie it over to next year.

[pdailey]

I think he will have 3-4 championships before he is done racing. I'll bet his lead will be more than 200 points before the chase starts. Thank goodness on the win bonus points too, he should have a good lead when the chase begins. He should have enough for a throw away race too.

[SandGurl]

He is truly tearing it up this year and I agree about the 200+ points lead. He will be able to kick back pretty much and still win it all. He is truly someone to be reckoned with this year and so young at that - many more to come.

[BANNED4LIFE]

you only get 10 points per win , do you ding-dongs actually think he is going to win more than 20 races before the chase starts????

[pdailey]

Read my post Pete, I said 200 points before the chase starts!!! Get the mullet out of you eyes!!! LOL

[michael_loomis]

Dailey.. I think petes mullet is in YOUR eyes!

if that was race 19 and there are only 26 races before the chase.. he can only win 7 more.. total points... 140.

thats IF he wins the rest.. (unlikely but possible with the tear this guy is on!)

[EMS702]

Dailey.. I think petes mullet is in YOUR eyes!

if that was race 19 and there are only 26 races before the chase.. he can only win 7 more.. total points... 140.

thats IF he wins the rest.. (unlikely but possible with the tear this guy is on!)

What about bonus points for laps led. Could make it to 200.

[hangten33]

How does that kid do it???

Can't stand the guy, but man can that man drive!!:D:D

[pdailey]

Dailey.. I think petes mullet is in YOUR eyes!

if that was race 19 and there are only 26 races before the chase.. he can only win 7 more.. total points... 140.

thats IF he wins the rest.. (unlikely but possible with the tear this guy is on!)

You are still not understadning me. Let me rephrase he will have a 200+ points lead before the points get reset and the chase starts. Is that better????? JEEEZ

[BANNED4LIFE]

i think hes 5 to 6 hundred ahead now isnt he??? im no nascrap expert so i probably am wrong, didnt mean to ruffle your feathers..................

[fishd00d]

1 Kyle Busch 2881
2 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 2619
3 Jeff Burton 2590
4 Carl Edwards 2509
5 Jimmie Johnson 2494
6 Jeff Gordon 2384
7 Greg Biffle 2318
8 Matt Kenseth 2317
9 Kevin Harvick 2308
10 Tony Stewart 2305
11 Kasey Kahne 2295
12 Denny Hamlin 2283

[Brandon Johnson]

That damn kid is F***** Lucky, and F***** good. JR better step it up a few notches and take the points lead

[RGFan]

He has been on it!

[Ryno]

Points lead doesn't matter right now. KB will be ahead with the start of the chase. Top 5 guys are in. Last 7 are up and down. There's no doubt at all the kid can drive. He's got that down, now just work on a little personality, and spend the $$ after the season, get your ears and face fixed, then they can market you.

[Chris Tobin]

Points lead doesn't matter right now. KB will be ahead with the start of the chase. Top 5 guys are in. Last 7 are up and down. There's no doubt at all the kid can drive. He's got that down, now just work on a little personality, and spend the $$ after the season, get your ears and face fixed, then they can market you.

Funny stuff there!!!!!!:D

[woundedyak]

Only time will tell if he's really on it. Every year one person/team breaks out with a dominate season. KB fell into that slot this year. Don't get me wrong,he has amazing car control, but look at his brother. After he won his championship that was it.

[KB]

Funny stuff there!!!!!!:D

haha nice:D

[Andy McMillin]

Hey RYNO, we all know that you think Kyle Busch looks like an alien and he's a dick.... You don't have to post THAT SAME THING in every single one of your posts on this thread. We all know your opinion already, so there is no need to keep restating it. And I am pretty damn sure that the kid is marketable!!!!!

[Mary Kay]

How does that kid do it???
talent pure talent.....

ryno, who cares about his looks unless your the person sleeping with him.....
imo he is marketable because of his talent!!!!

p.s.

not a fan but i do appreciate his driving ability.

[Ryno]

Andy....you're smiling face is twice as marketable as his is. You see him doing any commercials where he's talking or they're showing his face? NO. Maybe call Ickler, set up a meeting for some personality lessons.

Mary-with all the Favre drama this week, I never thought you'd talk KB.

[Mary Kay]

Mary-with all the Favre drama this week, I never thought you'd talk KB.

Brett's face mmmm....now that is a face i never get tired of looking at:D

[michael_loomis]

gotcha now Dailey... just didnt understand the logic.. haha.. KB could have 2 million points before they reset entering race 27... its of no use.. only the win bonus.

If he does lead the next guy by 100+ going INTO the chase.. one bad race could level it out.. hope no one gives him a payback tap...

[alan4s]

Found at BlackFlaggedOnline.com (http://blackflaggedonline.com/2008/07/14/third-busch-brother-critical-of-kyles-deal-with-devil/). It explains a lot.


Third Busch Brother Critical of Kyle’s Deal with Devil
July 14th, 2008

Kevin Busch is speaking publicly for the first time about his brother Kyle’s deal with Beelzebub, Mephistopheles, the Dark One — also known as the Devil himself.

“I can’t for the life of me believe my stupid brother,” said Kevin Busch, an Episcopalian minister. “He gets the chance to make a deal
with the Devil, says YES, and then asks to win NASCAR races instead of trying to correct those godawful goofy looks of his.”

Kevin cautioned that his brother Kyle and the Devil are tricky and not to be trusted, as Satan, particularly, may appear in many forms: a loose lugnut, a touch of unexplained aero-looseness, or a super-hot TNT pit reporter named Lindsey Czarniak.

The King of the Underworld was front-and-center at Chicagoland on Saturday night, appearing first as Brendan Fraser to belt out
“Gentlemen, Start Your Engines” in his trademark spooky-yelling voice. Not without a sense of humor, the Devil tormented the real Brendan Fraser to comedic effect in 2000’s “Bedazzled,” one of the Devil’s many screen appearances.

Next, viewers saw the Devil gum up Denny Hamlin’s engine and break the splitter off of the Carl Edwards’ #99 Ford, before his evil grand
finale, a mirage which caused Jimmie Johnson to see a pathway to victory around the bottom of the track on the final restart of the race — with only two laps to go.

Kevin Busch is not impressed. “My dumb brother may be winning races, but he’s reviled in the stands, and he’s headed for a fall. Soon enough he’s going to see that the Devil doesn’t care about him, he’s got a campaign for President to run. And all of the ladies’ sunglasses in the world won’t cover up the hurt in your monstrous, bulging bugeyes when the Devil abandons you.”

And this cautionary reminder from the Busch of the cloth, “If you DO get the chance to parlay your soul to Satan and you’re NOT going to go for good looks, at least ask for a hot wife. Worked for Kurt.”

[Dan McMillin]

I think this Anheuser-Busch buyout for $52 billion from InBev will effect Kyle's performance dramatically. Your thoughts?

[<Cody Agee>]

I REALLY dont like Kyle Busch no matter how successful he is. He has a sand car:o

[Chris Tobin]

I think this Anheuser-Busch buyout for $52 billion from InBev will effect Kyle's performance dramatically. Your thoughts?

Huh?????:confused:

Why would it effect Kyle at all???:confused:

[Dan McMillin]

Huh?????:confused:

Why would it effect Kyle at all???:confused:

Its a joke.

[Chris Tobin]

Its a joke.

I figured that, but was confused that in someway that you and Andy knew about he would be effected????:confused::D

[fishd00d]

McMillin1600 is Andy isnt it??

[Chris Tobin]

McMillin1600 is Andy isnt it??

fish, Andy McMillin is Andy and McMillin1600 is Dan... I think Luke's is Luke McMillin...

I know it is hard to keep the young gun desert racers straight but it is possible!:D

[fishd00d]

No way I think McMillin1600 is Andy im pretty sure :)

[b-makk]

No way I think McMillin1600 is Andy im pretty sure :)

You'd never know ....the amount of times he's changed names:)

[Dan McMillin]

McMillin1600 is Andy isnt it??

Yes, I believe so.

[mattb]

No way I think McMillin1600 is Andy im pretty sure :)

I always just check the rep points..

[fishd00d]

Ok thanks Dan errr I mean Andy just wanted to clarify :)

[fishd00d]

And he WINS again tonight!

[michael_loomis]

its kinda getting boring... he is just so dominate.. they should throw in Danica vs "insert name here" in there pit box, every other lap, just to make it more entertaining..

[woundedyak]

The question is? Did he win with the new motor?

[DEZERTSUB]

The question is? Did he win with the new motor?

The answer is: yes. 15 less HP. All toyotas have them now.

[bajafox]

its kinda getting boring... he is just so dominate..

We said the same thing about HMS last year, about how boring NASCAR was with them winning all the time

Except this time, I'm on the winners side:D

GO KYLE!!!!!!!!!! He could probably win if they stuck a yugo motor in his car:)

[Tristar Racing]

We said the same thing about HMS last year, about how boring NASCAR was with them winning all the time

Except this time, I'm on the winners side:D

GO KYLE!!!!!!!!!! He could probably win if they stuck a yugo motor in his car:)

Kyles speach about thanking his competitors for complaing about the horsepower and how it helped with traction control off the corners was sad. It sounded like he was trying to think of that while he was racing, and he thought it was pretty funny in his head. The delivery though sounded like an akward math club president. You have to be a smooth talker to be a funny smart ass. Its all the delivery... ;)

The boy can drive a car though, and JGR is on the ball. It was good to see the rest of the mediocre Toyota teams fell back to reality in that race. We shall see at the next big track if Nascar took too much from them.

[Chris Tobin]

After KBs immature tantrum after the Bristol race; what do you Kyle Busch fanboys have to say about him now??? I am not an Edwards fan either but Busch was simply nudged, not wrecked as he has done so many times already this year, in fact he even hit CE back pretty hard and was not able to wreck him to get the position back. What he did after the race was dumb and childish and he should be penalized but NASCAR won't do it because he is their new star! He almost hit other drivers going after Edwards and it was way uncalled for!!!!

Give the little brat a time out!!!! If it was RG he would still be in the hauler taking a beating and they would give him a very harsh penalty!!!

[michael_loomis]

Tobin, you gotta give PDiddy a break, they pay his bills! he's GOTTA root for him!

[Chris Tobin]

Tobin, you gotta give PDiddy a break, they pay his bills! he's GOTTA root for him!

They are not his only customer, just he favorite so I gotta give him a hard time when his boy acts like a bonehead again!!!:D

[OffroadExit]

Kyle Busch and Carl Edwards just got a 6 race probation for their Bristol race antics.

[9Iron]

Kyle Busch and Carl Edwards just got a 6 race probation for their Bristol race antics.

Wasn't KB already on probation...

[Tristar Racing]

Am I the only person in this entire world that doesnt get why they got equal penalties?

[fishd00d]

Ok so I was out of town and missed the race. What exactly did KB do and is their any video??

[dislocated1]

Kb ran into the side of Carl right after the checkers and Carl retaliated by turning him around as he passed...... KB is a bit of a hypocrite when it comes to rough driving. To put Carl on probation for six races seems lame considering KB started the whole altercation after the checkers








http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCqZIiYdUBM

[OffroadExit]

Wasn't KB already on probation...

I dont know about KB but Edwards should have still been on probation for not tightening the oil cap back in March or April. He was fined and his crew chief was sent home for several races.

[Tyler7]

Not a KB or Edwards fan but all I have to say is after KB pulled that immature stunt after the race because he didnt like how he got passed, get over it rubbin is racn!!! you got rubbed you couldnt hold your line you got passed then he came back all aggresive trying to get back at him then after the race pull **** like that he deserved to get spun around. But Edwards got an equl suspension for the stupid words that came out of his mouth when they asked him about the incident. Saying all he could keep thinking was has would Kyle do it to him and he thought yeah and he has so bascially saying Pay backs a ***** he bumped and rubbed his ass to the high side. And thats why Edwards got the equal suspension should have kept his mouth shut.

Ohh and Robby Gordon showed a perfect example on how to go about you rubb and spin me I rubb and spin you in Montreal HAHAHA look it up on you tube classic. BUt thats what happens when you piss Robby off!!! HAHAHAHA

[b-makk]

Sounded like the fans went wild when Edwards spun Busch. They loved it and so did I. Should take him down a few pegs (but I highly doubt it). I hope Edwards wins the championship just because of that move.

I don't mind Busch because he has a lot of talent but his antics get on my nerves.

[Chris Tobin]

Am I the only person in this entire world that doesnt get why they got equal penalties?

Nope!


Kb ran into the side of Carl right after the checkers and Carl retaliated by turning him around as he passed...... KB is a bit of a hypocrite when it comes to rough driving. To put Carl on probation for six races seems lame considering KB started the whole altercation after the checkers







YouTube - Carl Edwards Spins Kyle Busch after 2008 Sharpie 500 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCqZIiYdUBM)

Not only is he a hypocrite he is also a spoiled brat crybaby!!! Couldn't see him on the ball field saying since you struck me out I'm taking my ball and bat and going home!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!:eek:


Sounded like the fans went wild when Edwards spun Busch. They loved it and so did I. Should take him down a few pegs (but I highly doubt it). I hope Edwards wins the championship just because of that move.

I don't mind Busch because he has a lot of talent but his antics get on my nerves.

I'd still like to see Jr win the championship, but anyone other than Busch will make me happy!!!! He would be a terrible champion, much worse than his brother even!:eek:

[b-makk]

Pretty remarkable that Carl lost 150 points and still sits in 2nd place. Would only be 62 points out of 1st if not for the penalty.

[Andy McMillin]

Are you guys telling me that if you got hit while leading and got passed by the guy that hit you, and then you hit him back in the next corner but his car does not move like yours did, that you wouldn't be upset after the race? None of you race (I'm assuming here) so you can't say he should have done this or he should have done that. After racing for 3 hours and leading most of it, I would be very pissed off after the race, knowing that if the guy (Edwards) didn't hit me I would have won.

I would have done the same exact thing Kyle did after the race, so would any other REAL RACER who's passionate about what he does.

[Tristar Racing]

Are you guys telling me that if you got hit while leading and got passed by the guy that hit you, and then you hit him back in the next corner but his car does not move like yours did, that you wouldn't be upset after the race? None of you race (I'm assuming here) so you can't say he should have done this or he should have done that. After racing for 3 hours and leading most of it, I would be very pissed off after the race, knowing that if the guy (Edwards) didn't hit me I would have won.

I would have done the same exact thing Kyle did after the race, so would any other REAL RACER who's passionate about what he does.

You have got to be kidding me. Being passionate and being a baby are two different things. If he has a problem with what Carl did, maybe he should confront him in person.

Your assumption that none of us race is both incorrect and ignorant. The difference is we have to pay for our torn up equipment, Nascar math club president Kyle Busch does not.

If you want to justify his actions, try again. You explination is almost as pitiful as Kyles actions Saturday night.

Seriously, is this guy your man crush, or what?

[Chris Tobin]

Are you guys telling me that if you got hit while leading and got passed by the guy that hit you, and then you hit him back in the next corner but his car does not move like yours did, that you wouldn't be upset after the race? None of you race (I'm assuming here) so you can't say he should have done this or he should have done that. After racing for 3 hours and leading most of it, I would be very pissed off after the race, knowing that if the guy (Edwards) didn't hit me I would have won.

I would have done the same exact thing Kyle did after the race, so would any other REAL RACER who's passionate about what he does.

Andy, it is highly likely that any and all of us would have done the same thing, but that does not make it right, especially when Kyle has been on the other side of that exchange MANY times already. He likely had a crew chief and spotter in his ear trying to calm him down and he should have been mature enough to accept that what was done to him was in no way worse than any of what he has done to others.

In NASCAR, when you hit someone after the checkered flag you get punished. The penalties have varried but in general everytime you hit someone in retaliation after the checkered drops you will get penalized.

I have not raced at the level that you have, but that does not make me any less qualified to have an opinion... Just like you have not raced at their level and if you did you would have to exercise self control and maturity or get penalized for your actions...

Ultimately the decision is in the driver's hands and it was a SERIOUS case of the pot calling the kettle black when Kyle hit Edwards following very light contact, especially in light that Kyle has flat out wrecked people to get his wins! If he can't take it he needs to stop dishing it out. He needs to man up and accept the fact that his racing people dirty and acting like he is the only guy on the track will come back on him and he cant cry foul every time someone else gives him a taste of his own medicine!

[Andy McMillin]

No, he's really not my man crush. I just like coming on here and blurting out whatever I want just to get a rise out of you. It seems to be working.

Do you just wait for someone to say 1 thing about Kyle, and then you HAVE to post your opinion. I guess you do, and you are entitled to your own opinion.

Chris Tobin, that was a very good answer and I understand your opinion. I just think that Tristar hates Kyle so much that anything anyone says about him he has to come back and say something negative. That's the only reason why I post in this forum, to make you guys get SO WORKED UP ABOUT NOTHING. It's actually hilarious! Especially on a DESERT RACING FORUM!!

Tristar, why don't you just post your nonsense on Nascrap.com, your opinions are probably much more valued where everyone else hates KB too!


You have got to be kidding me. Being passionate and being a baby are two different things. If he has a problem with what Carl did, maybe he should confront him in person.

Your assumption that none of us race is both incorrect and ignorant. The difference is we have to pay for our torn up equipment, Nascar math club president Kyle Busch does not.

If you want to justify his actions, try again. You explination is almost as pitiful as Kyles actions Saturday night.

Seriously, is this guy your man crush, or what?

[Scrapiron]

But I thought Carl got black flagged............


Oh wait wrong thread

[randy s]

Are you guys telling me that if you got hit while leading and got passed by the guy that hit you, and then you hit him back in the next corner but his car does not move like yours did, that you wouldn't be upset after the race? None of you race (I'm assuming here) so you can't say he should have done this or he should have done that. After racing for 3 hours and leading most of it, I would be very pissed off after the race, knowing that if the guy (Edwards) didn't hit me I would have won.

I would have done the same exact thing Kyle did after the race, so would any other REAL RACER who's passionate about what he does.

your assumption that none of us race is incorrect real racer. what a prima donna. you can assume all you want. i had a fair amount of respect for you til now. you and kyle deserve each other. passionate indeed. what a lop.

[b-makk]

Andy, you are living proof that you don't need a brain to be a racer

[Andy McMillin]

Thanks! I have heard that the best racecar drivers in the world do not have brains! Thanks again for such a warming compliment...

Now I am going to stop posting my opinions so that I dont get the "you have no class and I lost all my respect for you" comments.

Friggin' internet **** talkers!!!!

[Tyler7]

All I have to say is yeah I would have been pissed maybe done the same thing but doesn't make it right and especially when he knows the reputation hes got on his shoulds especially cause no one likes him as it is. That is def no way to win over fans. And I would understand if he exchanged a similar rub mid race and pushed carl back which he attempted to do but it didnt work. SO to take out your frustration out on him after the race while other drivers congradulate you you get a fender to you door panel sucks.

[drsnutz]

i'm not a kb fan so to speak but i have a ton of respect for what he does with a race car.he has a ton of skills but in my humble opinion he needs to let his driving prowess do his speaking for him and not let his ego speak for him.there are far too many drivers in nascar that don't belong there and it's frustrating to me that they always blame someone else for their inability to drive.how do they get their rides?they may have been the top dog at their local track but when you step up to the national level there's a whole different breed of competition.i guess that's why i'll always be a dale sr. fan,the man could drive anything and never had to brag about it,degrade someone,or make excuses for a poor performance,he let his driving do the talking.if kb could take a minute to look back on his brothers career and see what running your mouth can do for you he'd probably be more appreciative of the good fortune he's been blessed with instead of the rowdy burns movie characture he's chosen to adopt. again it's just my opinion.

[Tyler7]

i'm not a kb fan so to speak but i have a ton of respect for what he does with a race car.he has a ton of skills but in my humble opinion he needs to let his driving prowess do his speaking for him and not let his ego speak for him.there are far too many drivers in nascar that don't belong there and it's frustrating to me that they always blame someone else for their inability to drive.how do they get their rides?they may have been the top dog at their local track but when you step up to the national level there's a whole different breed of competition.i guess that's why i'll always be a dale sr. fan,the man could drive anything and never had to brag about it,degrade someone,or make excuses for a poor performance,he let his driving do the talking.if kb could take a minute to look back on his brothers career and see what running your mouth can do for you he'd probably be more appreciative of the good fortune he's been blessed with instead of the rowdy burns movie characture he's chosen to adopt. again it's just my opinion.

I agree

[drsnutz]

Thanks! I have heard that the best racecar drivers in the world do not have brains! Thanks again for such a warming compliment...

Now I am going to stop posting my opinions so that I dont get the "you have no class and I lost all my respect for you" comments.

Friggin' internet **** talkers!!!!
boy you guys opened the door for a whole bunch of ridicule and a good lumping.the mcmillin clan are not only the cleanest racers on planet earth they are also the most honorable,during 30 years of off-road racing i've raced against corky,scott,mark,andy,dan,and they are without a doubt one class act and for someone to suggest that andy has no brain and no class,maybe you should look at yourself you kb wannabe.andy take it to heart bro and continue to voice your opinion here as it is valuable to many of us and those of us who have actually competed against you and your family know what a valuable resource you guys are,peace out

[Tristar Racing]

No, he's really not my man crush. I just like coming on here and blurting out whatever I want just to get a rise out of you. It seems to be working.

Do you just wait for someone to say 1 thing about Kyle, and then you HAVE to post your opinion. I guess you do, and you are entitled to your own opinion.

Chris Tobin, that was a very good answer and I understand your opinion. I just think that Tristar hates Kyle so much that anything anyone says about him he has to come back and say something negative. That's the only reason why I post in this forum, to make you guys get SO WORKED UP ABOUT NOTHING. It's actually hilarious! Especially on a DESERT RACING FORUM!!

Tristar, why don't you just post your nonsense on Nascrap.com, your opinions are probably much more valued where everyone else hates KB too!


Wait, you dont answer any of the reasonable arguements I made, post in caps, make fun of me, and now Im the one worked up?

I might hate him, but at least my comments are logical, and not personal attacks. You obviously have too much time on your hands.

Once again, tell me how what Kyle did was acceptable when he could have been a man about it and confronted Carl face to face.

[fishd00d]

I would have done the same thing KB did. When you are in a race car and something like that happens to you it just makes your blood boil. Especially if you have been leading for a long time and then someone comes and does something like that to you. Sure maybe KB has done it himself a time or 2 but it still dosent change the fact that it happened to him. Sometimes something like that is better than a personal confrontation that might just lead to a huge fight between all team members from both teams.

And KB is not the only one to ever do something stupid after the checkers. Even your boy Robby has been known to throw a helmet or 2 in his lifetime!

Andy, K1 Ontario tonight 6:30 be there, big group of RACERS going!!! lol I know its far but just take a helicopter or something!

[michael_loomis]

Dont feel bad Andy, Tristar hates KB slightly less than he hated Roberto! HAHA

Fish, whats wrong, no more Carlsbad? come too close to losing last time?

[fishd00d]

Fish, whats wrong, no more Carlsbad? come too close to losing last time?

I wish it was at Cbad!! Everyone else is from up that way so they wana go there this time. And close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades.

[b-makk]

boy you guys opened the door for a whole bunch of ridicule and a good lumping.the mcmillin clan are not only the cleanest racers on planet earth they are also the most honorable,during 30 years of off-road racing i've raced against corky,scott,mark,andy,dan,and they are without a doubt one class act and for someone to suggest that andy has no brain and no class,maybe you should look at yourself you kb wannabe.andy take it to heart bro and continue to voice your opinion here as it is valuable to many of us and those of us who have actually competed against you and your family know what a valuable resource you guys are,peace out

I don't know how you would have raced against the McMillins because according to Andy, there aren't any racers on here

[fishd00d]

I don't know how you would have raced against the McMillins because according to Andy, there aren't any racers on here

I think Andy meant there aren't any NASCAR racers on here....of course there are off road racers.

[Chris Tobin]

Thanks! I have heard that the best racecar drivers in the world do not have brains! Thanks again for such a warming compliment...

Now I am going to stop posting my opinions so that I dont get the "you have no class and I lost all my respect for you" comments.

Friggin' internet **** talkers!!!!

Andy, I think you should post your opinions just as much as anyone else here, but don't be too upset when someone calls you out if you don't let facts get in the way of your opinion!:D

By the way congrats on the podium in V2R! But why did you guys switch to Ford over the Katech Chevy or another Chevy???

[BANNED4LIFE]

Andy, I think you should post your opinions just as much as anyone else here, but don't be too upset when someone calls you out if you don't let facts get in the way of your opinion!:D

By the way congrats on the podium in V2R! But why did you guys switch to Ford over the Katech Chevy or another Chevy???

it is a chevy.............

[LukeMcMillin]

Address your thoughts to "Andy" not "McMillins" becasue i don't even care about this crap, i just think your all entertaining! BYE!

[Andy McMillin]

I should have clarified myself by saying "nascar racers". I will keep learning on when to keep my mouth shut and when not to...



Thank you everyone.




And my TT was SCORE TAGGED by SAVAGE as a FORD.

[randy s]

Thanks! I have heard that the best racecar drivers in the world do not have brains! Thanks again for such a warming compliment...

Now I am going to stop posting my opinions so that I dont get the "you have no class and I lost all my respect for you" comments.

Friggin' internet **** talkers!!!!

. . . ok

[BANNED4LIFE]

I should have clarified myself by saying "nascar racers". I will keep learning on when to keep my mouth shut and when not to...



Thank you everyone.




And my TT was SCORE TAGGED by SAVAGE as a FORD.

hahahahhahahaa .......i guess i missed the memo where the grill doesnt have to match the engine anymore.......my bad......it says ford on your tag?????

[OffroadExit]

hahahahhahahaa .......i guess i missed the memo where the grill doesnt have to match the engine anymore.......my bad......it says ford on your tag?????

You think Cameron ran an Escalade Engine in his truck last year lol. Yeah I know...its all Chevy/GM built.

[Chris Tobin]

Andy, I think you should post your opinions just as much as anyone else here, but don't be too upset when someone calls you out if you don't let facts get in the way of your opinion!:D

By the way congrats on the podium in V2R! But why did you guys switch to Ford over the Katech Chevy or another Chevy???


it is a chevy.............


I should have clarified myself by saying "nascar racers". I will keep learning on when to keep my mouth shut and when not to...



Thank you everyone.




And my TT was SCORE TAGGED by SAVAGE as a FORD.


hahahahhahahaa .......i guess i missed the memo where the grill doesnt have to match the engine anymore.......my bad......it says ford on your tag?????

OK so you are running it as a Ford now, but you did run it as a Chevy earlier so why the switch? I was hoping to see you do good with the LS7 based Katech engine and a Bowtie on the grille!

[BANNED4LIFE]

BITD does not require the vehicles engine to match the body..........ford pays 10g's to win in bitd so everyone runs ford bodies that would like a few bucks if they win, even though they run gm powerplants......SCORE's rule is that the emblem on the grill must match the engine......but not enforced.......

[Andy McMillin]

BITD does not require the vehicles engine to match the body..........ford pays 10g's to win in bitd so everyone runs ford bodies that would like a few bucks if they win, even though they run gm powerplants......SCORE's rule is that the emblem on the grill must match the engine......but not enforced.......

Kinda like T-Force....

[Ryno]

Loomis-what are you guys running for lap times @ K1? I got thrid last time I was there to a couple kids, maybe weighed 100lbs. I'm about 190. Power to weight is everything in those things. But it's a whole lotta fun to go with a group of freinds

KB/ Edwards are doing what NASCRAP loves best, making headlines and drama. Busch likes to bump and bang, Edwards returned the favor. That's how I understood it from Moody on Sirius. Far as I'm concerned, let them bump and bang all they want.

Andy- post your opinions, it's your right too. Growing up is hard, especially when you're a young guy like yourself that alot of people are envious of. On the same note, I've been caught with my foot in my mouth more times than once. Just part of growing up.

[BANNED4LIFE]

Kinda like T-Force....

OUCH!! you didnt just say that did you??? does his tech tag say toyota??? so now you realize you have a gm engine...........does chad???

[Andy McMillin]

Are you going to be the one that protests us???

[fishd00d]

Who cares if the stupid grill matches, is it really going to effect the performance??? Grills are for cooking on anyways. Stupidest rule ever. Stop crying and go race!

[BANNED4LIFE]

Are you going to be the one that protests us???

PROTESTS???? hahahahahhahaahahhaha.......u kill me.......

[Andy McMillin]

I had to ask Petey..... You never know with the TT drivers nowadays.....

[randy s]

I should have clarified myself by saying "nascar racers". I will keep learning on when to keep my mouth shut and when not to...



Thank you everyone.




And my TT was SCORE TAGGED by SAVAGE as a FORD.apology accepted. sometimes i type things on here that i'm assuming everyone will automatically understand where i'm coming from. alot of times nothing could be further from the truth. like right now i'm thinking that my response to your statement earlier might have been a bit much. in hindsite, i woould'nt have typed it out at all. thanks for clarifying, maning up and apologizing, and most of all, the negative rep point you gave me. i've always wanted one of those.

[michael_loomis]

Kyle Busch who??







Loomis-what are you guys running for lap times @ K1? I got thrid last time I was there to a couple kids, maybe weighed 100lbs. I'm about 190. Power to weight is everything in those things. But it's a whole lotta fun to go with a group of freinds


I cant remeber the exact times, but they were in the top 10 for the week. I lost to fishy by about .20 but he's got a 30-35 pound advantage on me.

[Mumzy]

No, he's really not my man crush. I just like coming on here and blurting out whatever I want just to get a rise out of you. It seems to be working.

Do you just wait for someone to say 1 thing about Kyle, and then you HAVE to post your opinion. I guess you do, and you are entitled to your own opinion.

Chris Tobin, that was a very good answer and I understand your opinion. I just think that Tristar hates Kyle so much that anything anyone says about him he has to come back and say something negative. That's the only reason why I post in this forum, to make you guys get SO WORKED UP ABOUT NOTHING. It's actually hilarious! Especially on a DESERT RACING FORUM!!

Tristar, why don't you just post your nonsense on Nascrap.com, your opinions are probably much more valued where everyone else hates KB too!

Young Man,
You need to learn a valuable life lesson......agree to disagree. If not you are in for YEARS of frustration.

[michael_loomis]

Young Man,
You need to learn a valuable life lesson......agree to disagree. If not you are in for YEARS of frustration.

He could always take lessons from RGFan, he's pretty good at it! :D

[Andy McMillin]

Young Man,
You need to learn a valuable life lesson......agree to disagree. If not you are in for YEARS of frustration.

I try to learn from my mistakes, and I will keep that in mind in future posts!

[fishd00d]

I try to learn from my mistakes, and I will keep that in mind in future posts!

Its a mistake not having me drive your TT for part a race. And I know how you can fix that.....

[kaw500]

He could always take lessons from RGFan, he's pretty good at it! :D

Speaking of the RGFAN he has been MIA for a while, hope he has not given up.

Andy, oh yeah when you screamed (going fast, not yelling) by me at V2R chasing down BJ I figured you were a racer.:D So I can hang with your comments.

KB still a fast guy, odd fella for sure. CE I think his back flips would not get him to the medal round. Put the two of them on the same track and NASCAR just got a little interesting.

[Ryno]

Its a mistake not having me drive your TT for part a race. And I know how you can fix that.....

Fish-

I don't think Andy, or his Dad would approve of you pulling over by some hot girls to ask them if they've ever ridden in a "race truck". Besides, you wouldn't know what to do with the extra 3-400 hp. You might want to look at Andy, then look at yourself...and remind yourself whose body you're stuck in. Maybe you should go looking for your baseball about now?

[fishd00d]

Fish-

I don't think Andy, or his Dad would approve of you pulling over by some hot girls to ask them if they've ever ridden in a "race truck". Besides, you wouldn't know what to do with the extra 3-400 hp. You might want to look at Andy, then look at yourself...and remind yourself whose body you're stuck in. Maybe you should go looking for your baseball about now?

lol f u too!!!! WAJ!

[Ryno]

lol f u too!!!! WAJ!


Some things never go away. =)

KB Starts 11th...should be good.