Speaking of tickets

[Conman]

The day I have been waiting for finally came. I got a ticket by a parking pig for not having a front plate. This will be a 100 bone fine if I can't get it signed off. Have you guys had much trouble getting these signed off. It was for my front plate. Its not on there because I have a custom bumper. When I try to get it signed off should I just fasten it to the bumper some how.

TMR

[SpareChangeRacng]

When I got a fix-it for the front LP before I went over to a cop eating breakfast (guess where...) that I saw in the parking lot after I surfed one day. I grabbed the ticket out of my truck and ran over to him and said I got this the other day will you sign it off for me? He just asked if I fixed it and sighend it. Didn't even look (I asked him if he wanted to see it and that's when he asked if I had fixed it or not and when I said I did he just said ok). I'd say zip tie that sucker on and hope for a cop in a good mood. Steve

[dave]

No don't use Zip Ties I try'd that with O'sides CHP for no front LP . The officer said thats not going to
work . He told me I had to bolt it on, he even made me buy a LP frame when I took it back the 2nd time to get it signed off. Oh yeah they even made me take off my BFG sticker I had the the windshield.

[TRDshaunTRD]

there is no law for how a liscence plate should be secured as long as you have one. I go to the police station and tape mine on with dbl sided tape, then as soon as its signed off and I leave, i rip it off. I just taped mine to the skid plate, this has worked with CHP, and two city police staions. All they do is glance at it to see it one is there and then sign it off. Its not a big deal.

"Those who risk nothing, are nothing."

[havahockey]

Websters Dictionary

Main Entry: Parking Pig
Pronunciation: ig-nor-ant
Function: noun
Usage: used by people who feel its ok to break laws
Etymology: Middle English pigge
Date: 13th century

Definiton: Parking enforcement doing their job


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[rdc]

i just go to my brother or brother in law to sign mine off but i aint complaining never had any problems

[fishd00d]

I am going to court Friday for that long list of fixit tickets I got on the way to the Night Race!

Hopefully the cop wont show....if he does I am ready though!

Go Big Or Go Home
United Jumping Truck Society

[SpareChangeRacng]

CHP is usually the WORST stickler for the code. When my ex got a ticket for no front LP we went to a cop (regular police) to have it signed off and they told us only the CHP could sign it off if it (the ticket) was given by a CHP officer. The cop said he didn't understand this and sorry for the wasted time driving to the station to talk to him (he also warned us of the "fun" we would have at the CHP office). The CHP guys come out and thoroughly inspect the fix it's. This guy even tugged on the plate to make sure it was on securely w/ bolts. Steve

[IDRA_CRB]

sigh . . . Frames and bolts are not required.


5201. License plates shall at all times be securely fastened to the vehicle for which they are issued so as to prevent the plates from swinging and shall be mounted in a position to be clearly visible, and shall be maintained in a condition so as to be clearly legible. The rear license plate shall be mounted not less than 12 inches nor more than 60 inches from the ground, and the front license plate shall be mounted not more than 60 inches from the ground, except as follows:

(a) The rear license plate on a tow truck may be mounted on the left-hand side of the mast assembly at the rear of the cab of the vehicle, not less than 12 inches nor more than 90 inches from the ground.

(b) The rear license plate on a tank vehicle hauling hazardous waste, as defined in Section 25117 of the Health and Safety Code, or asphalt material may be mounted not less than 12 inches nor more than 90 inches from the ground.

(c) The rear license plate on a truck tractor may be mounted at the rear of the cab of the vehicle, not less than 12 inches nor more than 90 inches from the ground.

(d) The rear license plate of a vehicle designed by the manufacturer for the collection and transportation of garbage, rubbish, or refuse and which is used regularly for the collection and transportation of that material by any person or governmental entity employed to collect, transport, and dispose of garbage, rubbish, or refuse may be mounted not less than 12 inches nor more than 90 inches from the ground.

(e) No covering shall be used on license plates except as follows:

(1) The installation of a cover over a lawfully parked vehicle to protect it from the weather and the elements does not constitute a violation of this subdivision. Any peace officer or other regularly salaried employee of a public agency designated to enforce laws, including local ordinances, relating to the parking of vehicles may temporarily remove so much of the cover as is necessary to inspect any license plate, tab, or indicia of registration on a vehicle.

(2) The installation of a license plate security cover is not a violation of this subdivision if the device does not obstruct or impair the recognition of the license plate information, including, but not limited to, the issuing state, license plate number, and registration tabs, and the cover is limited to the area directly over the top of the registration tabs. No portion of a license plate security cover shall rest over the license plate number.

(f) No casing, shield, frame, border, or other device that obstructs or impairs the reading or recognition of a license plate by a remote emission sensing device, as specified in Sections 44081 and 44081.6 of the Health and Safety Code, shall be installed on, or affixed to, a vehicle.

[TRDshaunTRD]

That’s what I'm saying, if the cop pulls on the plate and it comes off, that’s his problem, not yours. Tape works fine if you are planning on taking it off again. Even if they know its tape there is nothing wrong with that. If they say that it might fall off, then tell them that it is secured now, and if it falls off later, than they can ticket you then. If its still a problem, tell them that according to the fix it ticket, you are required to put a plate on which has been satisfied, and if they don't like the way it is secured, that is a different issue, and to find the code (doesn't exist) that requires the plate to be secured with bolts and give you a ticket. Sometimes cops are just jerks, but most are cool, the only problem is that we don't encouter the cool ones!

"Those who risk nothing, are nothing."

[Curtis Guise]

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[Clifford]

Let me give you guys a nickels worth of free advice. When it comes down to mechanical violations don't mess around with the CHP. If they say securely fastened, they mean securely fastened.

When they give you a fix-it ticket, they are doing you a favor. They are not obligated to give you a warning for no front plate, lack of tail-lights, of lack of off-road covers. The reason I'm giving you this info is that they can tow your vehicle without hesitation. All the officer has to do is declare your vehicle unsafe and your vehicle will be towed and impounded until you make the repairs. Once your vehicle has been deemed unsafe, you must then receive certification from the CHP to drive it on the roadway.

That's a bigger hassle than just taking the 10 minutes to grab 2 bolts and 2 nuts to fasten the front plate securely to the front bumper, skid plate, etc. Once you have your ticket signed off, remove it at your own free will.

[bajaruner11]

Come on this is XXXXXX If a cop pulls you over and does nothing more than ticket you for no front plate then put the damn thing on, permanently. I don't know about everyone on this board but I'd be willing to bet allot could be ticketed for many reason's that cops just let slide. Not all but most cops are pretty cool, and if we start acting like A-holes then they will too. Most of us don't have D.O.T seat belts, we have tinted windows, aftermarket exhaust, engine mods, wider front ends, and other things that we enjoy, and use. My point is if we start picking on the cops over the little things they will pick on us for the bigger ones, sooner or later we will be back to driving some piece of junk stock truck, and some will be walking!!

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[schafer]

exactly, i think its better to comply than to argue and fight it, if i ever get pulled over for no front plate, im gonna drill 4 holes in my skid plate and bolt it up, whats the big deal... and if i ever get pulled over for no mud flaps i will put them on... i just dont get why ppl have to make it so hard, its like they dont mind if someone ie a customer comes into their place of work and calls them an [censored], they would care... so does the cop.

Respect Others and they will respect you.


Corey Schafer
tmcorey@ttora-socal.com

[ACID_RAIN28]

How about this for a start to the laughlin weekend, on Thursday night, my buddy and I with friends a good 3 min behind us were in his Big blue suburban on amboy road just before the 40 doing what the gauge said 87. He unlike I, did not slow for the oncoming car, only to find it had a red light on the dash, busted.
The "man" approached my side and asked what the hurry was, and we as most do made something up, and he said it is like this, I got you doing 105, you have no proff of insurance and I can take your truck and you away. We played it smooth and cooperated and he told us that becuase we were cool he was just going to ticket him. He got a Written for 105 in a 55 and no proof of insurance, which he has. The truck also has new plates that you get when you buy it new on it, has had them for a year and a half, to avoid further ticketing we told him he bot it in october but did not say what year, he took the paper work on the window, yet did not check the date and we avoided a no reg ticket as well.

If that wasn't a good enough coming down the road in NV next to the high school, woop woop, busted again, for 20 over. and it gets better, instead of trying to bs this one, my should be blonde buddy tells this one about the previous ticket an hour ago, so he knows that we, should stay slow, and this one said that he will not ream him like the chp but will give him another speed ticket with the insurance bs again. By then we realized it was beer 30


"There are a lot of people hoping I fail. But I like that. I need to be hated."

[Kritter]

Gotta be careful on that road up to Laughlin...a lot of it is Indian territory and I got pulled over there once when I was in high school for reckless driving. I got pulled over by an Indian in a Silver unmarked Dodge Ram for passing on the right in the dirt at 85. He let us go with a warning and said that it was Indian land so anything they say goes!

I appreciate cops but the CHP I am undecided, I think they do more bad then good...their job is to write tickets, but some tickets should take precedence over others. It seems they just do whatever is easy. I just wish that CHP ticketed more important things...the old lady going 30 on the freeway, the guy who thinks the freeway is a race course and can bob and weave in and out of cars, the car blowing smoke out the tailpipe, the old cars with no plates at all, people cutting people off, people driving in the emergency lane in traffic, broken tail lights, no blinkers, one bright ass headlight, babies without baby seats, 10 people in a ford ranger single cab, … the list goes on and on.

Speeding, no front plates, tinted windows...yadayadayada those are not reasons for getting pulled over. A friend of mine got pulled over for paper plates on the toll roads in OC and the CHP said “it looked dirty so I figured it should have plates by now” when all they really wanted to check was to see if they had their toll road pass…the time wasted by the officer for doing that cost more then the toll for the road!

If you want to pull me over cuz you think I am drunk...say so when you walk up to the window. Don't give me the..."your windows are tinted is why I pulled you over...so how much have you had to drink tonight"

Now why do I say their job does more bad then good? What do most people do when they see a CHP car or bike? They hit the binders, change lanes, get stupid and make it more dangerous then the leisurely fast flowing traffic that was taking place before the car or bike was spotted, but now everybody is paranoid because they can't get a speeding ticket and don't want the cop to be behind them so they will change lanes while not paying attention to anything other then the cop or they will put the horse blinders on and temporarily lose all peripheral vision to appear that the cop does not bother them and almost hit another car...it is just stupidity that overtakes some drivers on the road when a CHP is seen on the freeway. Then when the cop gets by, everybody stays back and goes 10 miles under the limit which causes more traffic and more opportunity for accidents. I deal with it everyday just like everybody else and just from observation only, I see that the CHP does more bad then good. If anybody here is a Psych major you should do a senior thesis on the effects of seeing a CHP officer while driving on the freeway and I put money on it that the results say that it is an emotion that effects their driving ability...it seems almost like people undergo paralysis.

I just wish people were not paranoid about CHP. With the tickets I mentioned above a CHP officer could stay busy all day everyday, not to mention the traffic accidents that have to be handled too. So why do they go after speeding? I am asking because I know there are CHP personnel here. My only highway tickets are for speeding and they were all going to races!

I am in no way bashing or bad mouthing the CHP, just stating an opinion and asking questions, but I know that when I see a CHP I do not feel any safer, I actually feel unsafe because I have to read what the idiots in front of me are going to do as they get stupid and slow down to ridiculous speeds. I actually feel safer with when I don't see a CHP.

Another thing that pissed me off and I expressed it as I drove by is I saw a CHP officer having a tow truck guy change his tire...so now I know that our tax money is going to pay an already overpaid state employee to sit around (he was actually standing watching, maybe taking notes for next time) waiting for a tow truck, then paying or subsidizing a tow company to change a tire when it could have been done in under 10 minutes himself, so I had to yell out "they didn’t teach you how to change a tire in training!" I know it was not the right thing to do and I felt bad after and will probably get a ticket soon, but I hate seeing money wasted and that was an udder waste of money and time. It is no wonder good ol Davis is raising the state tax 1 whole percent.

Somebody mentioned it on this board before that in some other countries all you have to have is working and properly adjusted headlights along with blinkers and brake lights and that’s all that mattered…smog, tint, lift, exhaust, speeding, front plate, etc…didn’t matter.

Again this is only my opinion and I hope I can get a response from some of our CHP folks out there to my posed questions.


Kris
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[IDRA_CRB]

Listening carefully to the teacher, one acquires an education.


Reese

[martininsocal]

Kris- I am not a CHP, but I work with them everyday I am at work. You folks want tips on how to make you travels ticketless, here goes.
1- The CHP is not a Nazi when it comes to the speed limit. Every CHP I have ever talked to says the same thing, it is not speeding they are looking for, it is wreckless driving, but speed can eneter that equation. If you saty within 5 mph on surface streets up to 35mph and 10 mph on freeways up to 65 you will not get pulled over simply for speeding, especially if you are travelling with traffic. Most CHP won't pull you over for anything under 80 on the 70mph freeways, AS LONG AS YOU ARE NOT DRIVING LIKE AN IDIOT TO DO IT! Weaving in and out of traffic, tailgating, passing on the right are all things considered dangerous to CHP and that is what they are after. Most CHP do business with the following in mind, if it doesn't catch their eye, it isn't an infraction. They see thousands of cars everyday, so unless your stands out, you won't have issues. It is the sudden movements, don't fit in, look at me actions that they "spot" and now they have a target. No cop goes around looking for a missing front plate, but if you have no front plate and are speeding, the cop may be doing you a favor when all he does is give you the fix it ticket for the plate and doesn't write you up for doing 3,4, or 5 mph over the limit. WHY? These tickets are very hard to keep in court. Speedometers, different tire sizes, etc...all bring variances into the picture and if you got popped for 3mph over, and went into court and said your speedometer said you were travelling the speed limit, a judge would toss it and ask you to have your speedometer calibrated. So cops don't write tickets fro stuff like this, they consider it a courtesey call to let you know they are there and you are toeing the line.
As for speed, look at the history of why we have speed limits and you will be very surprised as to how they came to be. Many think safety was teh factor, but there are other reasons we have artificially low maximums set. like fuel consumption. I agree that 70 on the 15 or 40 to statelines is stupid, so do most CHP's, but 100+ is stupid too as long as there are other cars on the road. from 60-70 on down, newer cars are so safe that folks walk away from even head-on collisions today, but above 70, the cars will fold up around you. Airbags at those speeds do nothing more than help with dental records. I guess what it all boils down to are these, drive safely, and CHP won't fang you. Drive responsibly and CHP won't fang you. Drive with respect and CHP won't fang you. Drive without any one of these and CHP will likely look for the reason to make your day a bad one. They aren't bad guys, they don't cost you any tax dollars( contrary to what you think, CHP is self-funded, they and DMV are the only 2 state agencies that make a profit) and if you aren't looking for a ticket, they won't give you one.

Martin

If your gonna go, go BIG

[TRDshaunTRD]

Many of you are saying that it’s just a small ticket, and to do what they say. Well I for one feel that that is the wrong frame of mind. I am very polite when I am given a ticket and that’s why I don’t get many. But as far as giving in to the small things, that’s where problems occur. When you give in to the small items, that’s mentally saying to yourself that it’s not worth the troubles to hassle with it, and that’s what they want. It will start off with little things and grow to bigger things. There is a code that says that any modification to a vehicle is illegal. This gives them the power to write you up for anything, which is not right. We as humans love to mess and modify with our dinosaur burners, and it’s something that we are all passionate about.

This government agency (Police/CHP) is like any other where they will keep getting more and more power, just like closing offroad land. First they call it a temporary research closure, which is accepted by the people, and then it turns into years of "temporary closure". Once we get use to not having that land available to us, they permanently close it. Look at the Oceano (pismo) dunes, that place years ago was freaking huge, and now it’s practically not worth going to, and they are doing the same thing to Glammis. This aspect of taking little by little is found in every form of government, and I for one don't let the little things go by without a fight, just as if it was a big thing! This is just my point of view, so don't take it personally, and I am not saying that you don't have the right to your own. All I'm saying is be careful what you give in to.

"Those who risk nothing, are nothing."

[YotaWhoopRunner]

"They see thousands of cars everyday, so unless your stands out, you won't have issues."

I agree if you have the average sedan and don't stick out that its harder to get a ticket, but this is the price that we pay for having our trucks. I think many of us who have prerunners (stick out by default) catch the attention of the CHP which makes them go over our vehicles with a fine tooth comb. I personally have been stopped 3 or 4 times in Newport Beach, Costa Mesa and Irvine (land of the rice rockets) without the incident ending up with a ticket. The cops kept walking around my truck trying to find something wrong. Don't get me wrong I was polite and they did not ticket me, but it was just a waste of my time. It seemed like they had prejudged me and looked for the proof after I have been stopped. It could just be that I ran into some anal cops that don't represent the majority, but they certainly do have a way of finding me.

[SpareChangeRacng]

I live in Newport and when I drove the truck daily (now in the middle of being "built") I stuck out like a ruby in a goats ass (thanks dad for the quote!)! Cops do NOT like kids in tricked out rides.
I was doing my friends dad a favor one night and hauling a load of plants home from Home depot at Midnight (after I got off work when HD was open 24 hrs.) I was following his dad w/ my friend in the car w/ me when we got pulled over for a liscence plate light out (d'oh - I always keep on top of that crap to avoid the reason to be pulled over). This cop saw 2 kids(I was about 20 and my friend was 18) in a built truck and was an ASS! I am always polite w/ officers and many of them can be VERY cool (I am polite and show respect and usually ride away ticket free). This cop however took about 45 min to look over the entire truck. He was a DICK, even though I was polite and showed respect. He even insinuated that we stole the plants in the back of the truck! My friends dad ended up turning around to wait for us and see what the deal was. When my friends dad approached the cop his (the cop's) whole tone changed and he was polite. As soon as my friends dad left, the cop went back into "I'm better then you" mode and he continued to be a dick.
I gues the moral of this rambling is that there are just a-holes out there that look for reasons to pull kids over. W/ a built truck it is very hard to go un-noticed. Just don't give um any reason to mess w/ you (check your LP lights, turn signals, front LP, etc.). If they pull you over - be polite and show respect. They will sometimes be good guys (I've been lucky and met my share of nice guys) but every once in a while (NEWPORT BEACH) you'll run into the a-holes. Steve

[elcaprerunner]

First of all I would just like to request that people be a little more sensitive towards cops when telling their stories as some of us here are directly related to them. ( like I do not appreciate the term "pig" being used to describe my parents). Everybody is entitled to their opinion which is awesome, but not everybody agrees with the terms used. But don't let that keep you from telling your stories please, they are still enteresting to hear. Thank you.

Cops are not a reason for desert closures whatsoever. I agree it is the government that is closing the desert, but that part of the government is the Democratic party. If it is a cops job to keep an area closed it is only because it is their job, not because they agree with it. It is their job to enforce the laws, that's all, they would actually like that area open because every cop I have ever met is an off-road recreationist. Many of the cops I know ( if they ever got this job assigned to them) would turn down that position even though it would be a somewhat easy job compared to what they usually have to deal with. AND CHP HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAND CLOSURES!! Where did you get the idea that because you got pulled over for no front LP and put a front LP on to get the ticket signed off means you are helping close the desert??!! I don't know where that line of thought came from but it's not true at all. Whether you like it or not, you still have to have a front liscense plate on your truck, it's the law, either obey it, or deal with the tickets you will recieve. I think it is stupid too, but it is still the law, so why bother with hassling with it? As my mom once told my friend when he got a fixit ticket for no front plates- "You will be glad you had that plate when your stolen truck passes in front of us so we can get it back for you." Also a thing my dad says sometimes- "The best way to get rid of a law is to obey it, once the majority obeys that law it can be apealed in court as a useless law and can be overturned." Now what my dad says may not bee the case with front liscense plates, BUT there are many other things that have been overturned in court just because of that reason, like stop signs at unecessary places, left turn laws, and many others.

Now, I have a question for everyone ( this question is NOT accusing people here, it's just a question), where did the term "pig" come from to describe cops? I really want to know because it bugs me, the term does not make sense to me. Was it first used because someone knew an A-hole cop that literally looked like a pig so they started calling them pigs? Seriously though, can anyone dig up any history on the term??

As for the statement about CHP not getting speeding tickets because they are cops... Has anyone here accept me seen the driving test they have to pass to become an officer? Well, I must tell you it is just plain nuts. Hard to describe with words but if you ever watched a CHP driving test in progress, you would know what I m talking about. When they graduate from the academy (sp?) in Sacremento they are practically race car drivers IMHO, and they have to stay that good throughout their career as an officer. My dad is the best driver I know, we have home video of him on the CHP course coming around a corner at 120mph, pulling the E-brake ( this is in a 5-speed manual Mustang), spinning a complete and perfect 360 turn, and jamming it into second and taking off around the track again. With that said I think it is okay with me that they speed on the freeway, as long as they are not endangering others lives of course.

DIRT'S FOR RACING, PRERUNNERS ARE FOR GETTING THERE!

H.O.R.E.
Hemet Off-Road Enthusiests

[martininsocal]

You bring up a great point...most of the folks on here or who race only wish they had the oppurtunity to take some of the classes in driving the CHP get. My favorite...the wet skid pad...You want to learn car control... that is the place to do it...It is a lot of fun too...take 3 of your classmates, strap them into a V-8 with totally scrubbed(bald) tires...put them on a polished concrete race course and turn on teh sprinklers...Yes, everyone laughs hysterically until you start getting frustrated because it is so hard to get around the course...

If your gonna go, go BIG

[schafer]

LOl sounds like last years primm, i was going from start/finish to pit a, on the street and a state trouper stopped my right at the entrance off to the dirt road for pit a, he put me at 70 in a 55, and warned me. i felt kinda ripped cause everyone around me was doing the same... ohh well atleast he didnt ticket

Corey Schafer
tmcorey@ttora-socal.com

[Clifford]

As much as I wanted to be a cop and as much as I still do, I probably won't because of one minor problem. Most cops have the "do as I say, not as I do" attitude. I don't live that way and do not believe in it. I give a couple of examples to explain why I feel this way.

Just a few months a go I was working in Saugus at an Albetson's. It's a remodel and we were working on the sales floor at night. On the way home each weeknight between 4am and 5am traffic would be traveling anywhere from 75mph to 85mph. I suppose it's time for most of the local motor officers to be going to work as they would pass us like we're standing still. I mean, come on, these guys are traffic officers and would write us in a heartbeat if we were going well over 20 mph above the speed limit. And don't tell me that they were on their way to an emergency call, either. I know better as motor cops are rarely ever sent to handle a patrol beat.

How about when they are stopped for a traffic violation? Do they ever get a ticket? Most of the time they flash their badge and are granted a a free pass. I don't think that's right as that would be a perfect example of being above the law. Even though they have police powers 24/7, anywhere in the state, when they are off duty they are a citizen just like us. If it were me I would ask myself is this a violation I would right anyone else for. If the answer is yes, then they receive a cite also.

[jeff]

If a CHP writes a county cop a ticket you can bet your ass there will be retaliation. All of the "serve & protect" agencies have an unwritten law that says if you write a ticket you better be ready for war. There have been cases where it has become so out of control between law enforcement agencies that John Q. public has suffered because of it.

Both my mom and dad were cops and I would take no offense to someone calling them pigs, or ex-pigs as the case may be. My mom had a favorite poster from back in the cop days.... it's a picture of a big fat show winning pig and it says in big bold letters... "Pigs Are Beautiful Too" --- If you can't handle being called names you shouldn't be allowed to carry a gun.

Aloha

[TRDshaunTRD]

I may have written that unclearly when I said, "This government agency (Police/CHP) is like any other where they will keep getting more and more power, just like closing offroad land." I meant that police and CHP agencies are similar to other government agencies in that they all want more power, just like OTHER government agencies that close land down. You are absolutely right, cops and CHP have nothing to do with land closures, I was trying to compare the need for more power to that of the agencies that take more and more land. Hope this clears that up!

"Those who risk nothing, are nothing."

[Conman]

Just to clarify I have nothing against cops. Sorry about using the term, "pig." I got the ticket in San Francisco when I was visiting my girlfriend. ( I go to college at the California Maritime Academy thats near there). I've been parking there for a year now with the same truck and never had a problem until one day someone from the Department of Parking and Traffic had to give a properly parked vehicle a ticket basically for the hell of it. Any ways the whole point of my post was to see the best way to get this sign off taken care of. No hard feelings.


Can't wait to get back to SoCal.

TMR

[elcaprerunner]

Yeah, I understand TRDShaun, that certainly cleared it up. Not sure I agree with the power thing though, but maybe you mean the actual agencies and not individual officers which I assume you do, in which case though I am not sure. And I am cool with your story Conman, because what Jeff said is right, if you can't handle insults you shouldn't be given a gun. Has anybody here seen the "Cops-Too hot for TV video"? If you think you have heard insults, you haven't ANYTHING compared to the stuff people say to cops in that video, and the funny part is is the cops keep their cool and just ignore them, its halarious.

DIRT'S FOR RACING, PRERUNNERS ARE FOR GETTING THERE!

H.O.R.E.
Hemet Off-Road Enthusiests

[Kritter]

My Dad went to the Academy in the early 70s and when he came out he decided not to be a cop because he would beat too much ass as one...I too would not be able to handle the job and beat a lot of ass with all the punk ass kids these days!

Kris
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[1992f150]

i think to start off as a cop you have to work jails for 2 years...no thanks ive had enough bodily fluids thrown at me already.

Azusa: shame of the foothills

[robert_encinas]

thats only the sherriffs department, i believe.

[DSRacing]

Your right, all jails are under the juristiction of that county's Sheriff's Dept. As far as being only two years, it's a matter of space becoming available in Patrol to move out, I've seen guys take as long as 4 to 5 years before getting moved out. Some departments (mine included) allow you to choose to work either Detentions or Patrol. I chose the former for personal reasons. Yes, I have been called names I never knew existed before, but you just ignore it. Some will intentionally try to get you angry so you will knock them senseless and then sue your pants off. Once again, you just ignore them. Besides when it's time to go train with my K-9, that more than makes up for all knuckle heads I have to deal with. The attachment says it all. :)

[partybarge_pilot]

Just sign off the damn ticket yourself and send it in. They don't check these thing's. I've been doing this for about ten years with no problems......

[Brian Mapes]

Hah, thats tight!

You gots to pay da cost to be da boss. - Snoop

[In_the_works]

I'd hate to think what would happen if they did check it though.

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