"One shot" bender vs. traditional??

[desertspeed]

I have been looking for a bender, and I am wondering what the advantages and disadvantages/differences are between a "traditional" type bender such as the JD2 and JMR vs. the "one shot" benders such as the Mittler and Pro-tools

http://www.vansantent.com/tube_bending_machines.htm

http://www.pro-tools.com/302.htm

I am assuming the one shot bender can only bend to 90 deg??

Has anyone used both that can give me any advice?

Thanks!

[DUMP!]

My Opinion, Take it for what you paid me for it:D:D

Both the benders you posted links to are nothing more then glorified conduit benders and have no business in a fab shop. Especially the Mittler Bros unit, the radiuses avalable for the dies are very large and cumbersome if you are going to be using it to build a cage. Pro-tools has a very nice bender in the 105 model and it will bend over 180 degs with the right die, but not in one shot. Pro-tools also has the most reasonable prices I've seen on dies and a pretty big selection as well.

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[glamisrnr]

So what about the JD2 model 3?

[Racebug1098]

I've had the jd2 for about 5 years now, and not a problem out of it. My buddy just got the pro-tools m#5 and we agree that jd2 is better.

[glamisrnr]

How well does it bend 2" tube?

[Shred918]

How well does it bend 2" tube?

My buddy did his bumper out of 2" .120 wall and it did it. He said it was a little tough to bend but it was still not a problem.

[glamisrnr]

Ok cool, Longer handle to make it eaiser?

[BenDotCom]

Stick with the Hossfeld #2

[DUMP!]

Stick with the Hossfeld #2

Classic, Vise grips holding the pins from falling out. Don't you know anyone who could weld a nice top on your pins to keep them from falling through? :D:D:D And what's with the beater Husky tool box? Was that your Snap-on box I saw at the pawn shop?:eek::eek::eek:

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[Mark Newhan]

I use an Ercolina. They are pricey but work well. It bends 180's. I have bent 2" x .156 wall 4130 more then once. It is a 3 Phase...

[rubberbiscuitt]

i own a jd2 model 3, and i've used a one shot JMR at a shop for 2 years. i like my cheap jmr better because quality. both are easy to change tooling if you make the right table. the only thing i noticed that the one shot has over the model 3 is speed. even the model 3 with power takes a long time to bend, for example a 90. the model 3 bend more true. the shop and i both have a 1.75"dia 6.5" clr die set so i checked trueness. 2 pieces of material from same stick of 1.75"x .120" hrew. same degree of bend. model 3 wins again. it's more true by .030". yeah it's great.

[BenDotCom]

Classic, Vise grips holding the pins from falling out. Don't you know anyone who could weld a nice top on your pins to keep them from falling through? :D:D:D And what's with the beater Husky tool box? Was that your Snap-on box I saw at the pawn shop?:eek::eek::eek:

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I left the Husky box on the I5 on the way down from Herbst after gettin' the ax! As for the vise-grips, that's just shear laziness there!

[J.JOHNSON]

I would go with the jd2 or protools. I dislike the hossfeld and any copys of it. It is a pain to try and duplicate with.

[Scooterinvegas]

Benders are similar to women, everyone has their own opinion. I have the use the one shot, and wasn't very impressed. Besides it being more difficult to repeat bends over and over, the pump that was supplied from ProTools would move 3 to 4 degrees every time you bumped the button. What happens when you stop 1 or 2 degrees from where you need to be? If you bumped the button you get too far. I have also owned a 105 from ProTools and it wasn't bad at all. I currently own a model 3 and a model 4 from a J.D. squared. And I wouldn't trade my model 4 for anything. Model 4 is a very solid bender. Like DC said, if you're going to fab, stick with a rotary draw type bender.

[racer56]

Does anyone have experience with the Mittler Bros. 180° Hydraulic Tube Bender?
http://www.mittlerbros.com/tube_bender_180_hydraulic.htm

[DUMP!]

Does anyone have experience with the Mittler Bros. 180° Hydraulic Tube Bender?
http://www.mittlerbros.com/tube_bender_180_hydraulic.htm

Junk, Glorified conduit bender. That's what they use at the Herbst and that is why I outsources all the tube bending for the trucks I was working on. Those types of benders don't belong in a race shop.

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[mebuildit]

I bought this one from a friend of mine who built this himself. He builds dragsters and other drag racing cars and has used this for some time. The only reason he sold it to me is that he needed something that would bend tubing over 2". So I bought his bender and Mittler Bros. tube notcher, since he was going to buy a new one for the guys at the shop anyways.
So I bought all of his dies from 5/8-2" and also got some roughing end mills for the notcher as well. Like I said before I'm not a pro like some of the guys on here, but it sure makes a difference having the proper tool for the job.

[glamisrnr]

So it would be best to get JD2 model 3 manual bender? For building and Maintaining a WSORR Enduro truck for a couple seasons?