2009 Swinger Showdown - May 23rd!

[TauMau]

Post here or send an e-mail to info@pro-nine.com if you'd like to be added to the entry list on the website!

www.pro-nine.com for more info!

[Johnson954]

Put us down, we plan to make it.

Steve / Matt Johnson #954

[BUDMAN975]

Awesome Steve.

[mrmatt]

#990 Matt Creveling is going to be there!

[MORE #911]

Big Race? 911 will be there! Nice work on the web site!

[MORE #911]

Mike Hinson #938 sent me a note.. his team is on for the Big Race

[JJohnson]

Count #933 in. Dittfeld and Johnson will be there!

[Shred918]

I will be at this race for sure.

One thing I might mention, this will be my first race in Lucerne and my first night race if I end up in Vegas somehow don't come looking for me as I will have my credit card on me and will somehow manage! :D

[badger999]

sign us up , Rick Moran , and Roy Treffke car # 999 . This will be our first race in lucern also, I am really looking forward to it car count is up to 20 for B.A.P. SEE YOU THERE , RACE ON !!!!

[Hacha]

984 Jorge Ventura please,for More 500!

[justplainnate]

ill be there

[TauMau]

Hey Nate can I get your car number?

[Shred918]

Hey Nate can I get your car number?

Nate is 987

[oma979]

Sign me up. Car 920 DOR Kurt Davidson

[MORE #911]

How bout it? anymore ready to sign up..15 so far onthe pro-nine site.. After the Battle @ BAP this weekend, the May date will be a great race for the SNORE/MORE guys to go at it long haul.

[MORE #911]

21 Entires so far.. list your name ands car number here and it will be added to the ww.pro-nine.com web site!

[MORE #911]

Thanks to Jacob Wisdom for the Artwork for the upcoming Dusty Times Promo.
List your name on this thead if your ready to commit to the Big Race in May!
BAP is over lets get the Nevada drivers to sign up for the Big California Battle
I have 24 drivers so far.

[BUDMAN975]

Dave I dont want to burst the bubble but read the text "along-along" before you send it to the dusty times. Go ahead and sign up BUD Ward car #907. Thanks

[TauMau]

Nice catch Bud. Congrats on the win at BAP...sorry we got in your way while getting pulled out! :o

[BUDMAN975]

No problem Jacob, what happened to you guys? in all of the pic's you were right in the mix.

[TauMau]

Kyle did an awesome job Saturday and stayed right up with the pack for the first lap, but at the start/finish line when he came in to start his 2nd lap, the motor died and wouldn't fire up again. Turns out the motor was getting flooded. After a few speculations we changed what we thought was the problem (the float valve in the carb), but low and behold Sunday rolls around and we're still getting flooded. So for Sundays race we had to plug the high speed jet to try and manage the fuel...ended up really killing not only the bottom end but lost all of our top end too. Stalled a few times during the race and had to really do some clutch work to keep the car moving. What eventually took us out was running out of fuel mid 3rd lap. 7.5 gallons of fuel in 30 miles. YIKES

[DesertRacer1268]

Bummer
hope you have better luck next time

[KyleMurray]

yeah... thats a total bummer, it was a great course. i love those small courses. =] oh well... thats racing

[ffrank]

Only 20 cars signed up so far? Whats up? I realize its still early and all but....

[MORE #911]

I think we are at 26 and need a web site update.
I am also mailing out an invite to 06-07-08 MORE DOR's this week.

[MORE #911]

I think we are at 26 and need a web site update.
I am also mailing out an invite to 06-07-08 MORE DOR's this week.

MORE made available to me a list if prior drivers as promised. About 46 driver invites will be mailed out this week.

[Haney motorsports]

I know a few of the south(code) racers that have been trying to contact you dave about getting on the entry list.They have problems with the links.They have my phone number and will call me if they still have no luck......Rick M start rounding up those mdr guys and gals......

[Shred918]

Sorry guys I am not going to be able to race for awhile as I got a little medical issue. In a couple weeks I am being put on disability for about a month then about 5 more months of recovery.

Wasn't meant to be for me I guess.

[scottys-misfits]

you will be ok shred ,i know for a fact the bleeding only lasts for about 7 days,then your ready for action again.

[ffrank]

Bwahahahahaha!!!!!

[oldman dirt]

Forgot to tell him the first couple days are the worst !

[oldman dirt]

Are we going to be doing a 500 mile race or is it going to be the normal shorter distance--
"A" course is the CAMP ROCK course right?
is that what they are using or a combo of both a and b ??
thanks

[Shred918]

you will be ok shred ,i know for a fact the bleeding only lasts for about 7 days,then your ready for action again.

I knew I could count on you guys for support :eek:

lol

[MORE #911]

I know a few of the south(code) racers that have been trying to contact you dave about getting on the entry list.They have problems with the links.They have my phone number and will call me if they still have no luck......Rick M start rounding up those mdr guys and gals......

I did not think until now to make a note in the RDC Se Habla Espanol thread. I will work on it.

If any of the CODE racers you talk to need a place to stage before heading to Lucerne I have fenced 2.0 acres in Apple Valley and the family in law all speak espanol..

[MORE #911]

Are we going to be doing a 500 mile race or is it going to be the normal shorter distance--
"A" course is the CAMP ROCK course right?
is that what they are using or a combo of both a and b ??
thanks

I think we did 385 miles in 08.
7 laps X 55.. see the MORE site results for 08 and you can view last years map.

[scottys-misfits]

i need another driver. rick or brandon give me a call if you need a ride for that weekend.all other interested drivers send me your resume,the trophy 9 is particular about who molests her.

[BUDMAN975]

If you cannot find someone I might know of a person, e-mail me budward7@aol.com

[Haney motorsports]

Dave you are awesome.....I know those guys would totally apperciate the use of your land.If and when I hear from them I will forward all info to you
c.haney


Thats all we need is for the trophy 9 to steal a few more entries.....cmon bud sign your dad up in the 2 seat and race the ss:D

[justplainnate]

husky and i might have two cars out there if everything goes right...

[BUDMAN975]

the 2 seat may be going to the MINT.

[mrmatt]

Dang Bud you are just spreading the hurt all over the place this year!!!

That would be cool. I think that would be a fun race to run. If it wasn't so close to the MORE race I would have tried to race it.

[sadrace]

i need another driver. rick or brandon give me a call if you need a ride for that weekend.all other interested drivers send me your resume,the trophy 9 is particular about who molests her.

Rob

928-210-3566

don't have your number, wouldn't mind outrunning old man dirt again

[oldman dirt]

ahhhhh ---------------------SADRACE now you hurt my feelings---
I thought you and I would race together, and show the youngsters something----

[MORE #911]

Any More Ideas?

This week:
I mailed letters to the current MORE CLass 9 Contingency Sponsors asking for additional $$/products for this race.

I mailed 20 letters to Contingency Sponsors of other series asking them to consider this race for awards.

I mailed driver invites to all of the 07-08-09 MORE drivers that I was able to obtain an address on. If anyone has an idea to contact Nevada/Mex racers let me know.

We have a full page race flyer coming out in Dusty Times at the end of March

[sadrace]

ahhhhh ---------------------SADRACE now you hurt my feelings---
I thought you and I would race together, and show the youngsters something----
First you have to have feelings to hurt them and you or i have none. that would be fun

[Johnson954]

On the pro-nine site when I try to look at the names, they are all going down, and it is hard to tell who's who....can that be fixed, or is it just my computer?

[TauMau]

Steve try looking at it now. If it's still doing it, could you get me a screenshot?

[Johnson954]

Jacob, looks good now! Thanks!

[MORE #911]

We have some contingency updates..looks to be close to $6700 of cash and awards available so far with new pledges and existing contingency sponsors of MORE.
Pay back and contingency totals between $16,000 for 30 cars and $20,200 for 40.

We need to get some Nevada, Mexico drivers to commit to the race!

[ffrank]

For the 9-race, are we going by SCORE rules or the organization in which we are racing (MORE)? And.... are we going to have our own tech? Motors should be at least cc'd, and tranies put on the wheel.

[TauMau]

For sure...with this economy and that much money on the line I see trouble on the horizon

[BUDMAN975]

For the 9-race, are we going by SCORE rules or the organization in which we are racing (MORE)? And.... are we going to have our own tech? Motors should be at least cc'd, and tranies put on the wheel.

I was thinking the same thing. But we have to come up with a ruling quick because it needs to be announced, I dont know if the organizations in Mexico issue the same rules as in CA and NV

[MORE #911]

First answer.. I dont know.. 2nd answer is that I will get with the MORE guys and get a commit on the post race inspection items..

My intent and assumption has been all along is whatever MORE does now for rules and tech is the deal. Same with the winnings split.
If the race had gone SNORE-DRIVE-CODE would have been the same deal.. the race location orginization rules and tech.

[MORE #911]

From MORE via email
Tell them the first 3 cars in class will have the Carb checked rocker arm remove and engine will be P & G for compression, and the Trans will be check for First and Second standard gears and size of ring gear. Cars will be put on scale at post tech.
The rules are the same for all organzation.


send me some ideas you have for a tighter tech that is reasonable..Dave

[Haney motorsports]

That seems to be the regular 1-2-3(with tech).What rules vary in MORE then the SCORE rule book:confused: I thought Jim kept it the same and there were no rule changes ever made within MORE.If there was changes I think we should all be running current SCORE rules

[Haney motorsports]

I was thinking the same thing. But we have to come up with a ruling quick because it needs to be announced, I dont know if the organizations in Mexico issue the same rules as in CA and NV

It is my understanding that all the south racers run to current SCORE rules....as it should be.It is just a couple of high dezert guys and a vegas 9 guy who want to rewrite some rules:D

[ACME]

A few ideas you might want to consider from a reformed swinger:

1) The scales will not be correct if they are not level and on a flat hard surface (bring sheets of plywood), dirt does not really work per numerous scale mfr's. I'd also suggest that you may want to make arrangements to have the scales available at tech so those that have never done so have a chance to weigh their cars. I know one young swinger who ended up at a Wal Mart and we hose clamped in 40 lbs the night before a Ridgecrest race, prior to that tech he assumed he was legal...

2) Make sure all the cars weighed are empty of: Fuel, tools, jacks and spares and I suggest you all agree to look and confirm this prior to the cars going on the scale and maybe agree to have the weights be open knowledge to all competitors that will be checked. Twice last year cars went on the scales but were never checked to be empty of fuel by the inspectors and one was weighed with tools and the jack in it. Fair is fair...

3) When pumping out the cells the fuel color should be looked at, I'm just say'n...

4) Decide before the race if you'll as a group will allow any non conforming parts such as wheels, tires, +1" cars, how to measure wheel base, non conforming carbs, and certain offshore hair care proddy. Then approach MORE with these decisions, it'll nullify any butt hurting at the event...

5) Make sure there is sufficient lighting at post tech, there is never enough...

[ffrank]

Ringleader, I completely agree. 1) We should get scales as level as possible and on a hard surface. 2) Weighed to SCORE rules! Spares tools ect... NO! 3) Colored fuel??? Pump gas should be clear or pinkish. 4)+1" NO! rules say 100". 5) Ill talk to Mr. Tony Murry and ask if he would donate a light for 9 car tech as he owns American rentals.... a big tent would also be cool Tony! 6) P&G only gives you swept volume, not compression ratio. Heads need to be pulled and should be, to be correct. 7) check trannies.

[Mohr]

Art has a sonic compression tester. No need to pull a head unless you want to check for chamber shapes....Just an FYI....

[oldman dirt]

A few ideas you might want to consider from a reformed swinger:

1) The scales will not be correct if they are not level and on a flat hard surface (bring sheets of plywood), dirt does not really work per numerous scale mfr's. I'd also suggest that you may want to make arrangements to have the scales available at tech so those that have never done so have a chance to weigh their cars. I know one young swinger who ended up at a Wal Mart and we hose clamped in 40 lbs the night before a Ridgecrest race, prior to that tech he assumed he was legal...

2) Make sure all the cars weighed are empty of: Fuel, tools, jacks and spares and I suggest you all agree to look and confirm this prior to the cars going on the scale and maybe agree to have the weights be open knowledge to all competitors that will be checked. Twice last year cars went on the scales but were never checked to be empty of fuel by the inspectors and one was weighed with tools and the jack in it. Fair is fair...

3) When pumping out the cells the fuel color should be looked at, I'm just say'n...

4) Decide before the race if you'll as a group will allow any non conforming parts such as wheels, tires, +1" cars, how to measure wheel base, non conforming carbs, and certain offshore hair care proddy. Then approach MORE with these decisions, it'll nullify any butt hurting at the event...

5) Make sure there is sufficient lighting at post tech, there is never enough...

I totally agree with the scales--you will never get a accurate read in the dirt even with plywood as any flex changes the scales--sorry but scaling cars has been a vital part of my job (on road open wheel cars ) and as such I used to set up our scales every weekend-

But they will have to be------- so after they are set up we should as a group check a couple cars--pre race at the location--to see how close they are--
if we get a tent light etc, maybe we could get a small area graded flat--someone out in Lucerne or Yucca with a tractor??
would really help--
and I really think if there are 30- 50 cars the top 5 should be teched------
or any number that are being paid back
of course we are all gentleman and dont cheat--------------

[ffrank]

Thanks Joel, How would you like to help with tech? You know more than most all us! I think a 9 car driver that is not racing could help us out with tech and we wpould all benefit.

[oldman dirt]

thats a great IDEA !!!!!

[Motoren]

Having an ex driver do tech is asking for trouble. I don’t know how rough class 9 tech is but in my circle track days having an official who knows certain people and not others is going to cause a major stink.

[ffrank]

Not having a 9 driver as the sole tech official but an aid. Especially someone like Joel who is very knowledgable in class 9.

[9rocky]

I may be speaking out of turn since we are reformed swingers as well, but is there still a class 9 rep? If not there needs to be one. I nominate Dave Bolles. Frank's idea for a tech liason is a great one as well.

[MORE #911]

I may be speaking out of turn since we are reformed swingers as well, but is there still a class 9 rep? If not there needs to be one. I nominate Dave Bolles. Frank's idea for a tech liason is a great one as well.

Thanks but.... I couldnt commit to that currently.. A non racing friend of class 9 would be an ideal choice from my view.

[ACME]

One more piece of advice: Don't trust anything FFFffffrancis suggests ;)...

[Shred918]

I may not be the best qualified person for the job but I cant race in it so maybe I should tech?

[ffrank]

Shred.... One of the key words here is qualified little buddy. Not here to bust your bubble but remember my tire change in Barstool? (not that I didn't appreciate it). Jeffe' wheres the love??? I havent read anywhere in the SCORE rulebook that short sexy hair jell is illegal. So as far as Im concerned Hair Jell is OPEN!!!!!!!

[MORE #911]

ffrank, ACME and Gitti.. tech notes noted .. I will address with the MORE big wheels on Monday.. including a tech observer we agree on. Plus any new ideas I see here on the weekend.
This stuff is new to me so gonna ask opinions..
Should I ask to let the top 3-5 finishers see each the weights of all cars? and what happens if one says no?
If anyone is using ballast to make weight.. is it documented with a seal number? should it be to confirm it wasnt removed for a few laps before the finish?

[oldman dirt]

good question on the ballast--but is someone really going to stop and attach it??
we should all be more trusting--

does anyone know if 955 is being used ??

[Shred918]

Shred.... One of the key words here is qualified little buddy. Not here to bust your bubble but remember my tire change in Barstool? (not that I didn't appreciate it). Jeffe' wheres the love??? I havent read anywhere in the SCORE rulebook that short sexy hair jell is illegal. So as far as Im concerned Hair Jell is OPEN!!!!!!!

Damn Frank.... I honestly dont recall touching any tools on that tire change. :rolleyes:

[oldman dirt]

Dave----
my number for the "BIG RACE" will be #992
thats also a rear start---told Jim as well--

nothing like passing 40 niners in the middle of a 120 degree day--------
got to love it--------

[MORE #911]

I may not be the best qualified person for the job but I cant race in it so maybe I should tech?

You got my vote

[ACME]

"Gel" FFfffrancis, I don't even want to know what your "Jell" is used for... As far as weight; I know that none of the cars I've seen or raced that had added ballast have ever had a seal affixed to the weight. Based on what I've seen at various associations post race techs over the years I'd trust Shred more than most...

[oldman dirt]

I was beat once by a car that in post tech was "LIGHT" so the allowed him to throw ona spare--even though no spare could be mounted cause there wasnt a provision for it--then fill his tank and he was still 3 lbs light---
go figure---
then they made me tear my entire motor down--which was legal--
I ahve also seen cars dq'd for mutiple bars connectged to their front beam and others who looked the other way---------
or 2,3,4,5th place crs who were never check--only the winner-
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
as long as everyone is on the same page -

[Johnson954]

Dave----
my number for the "BIG RACE" will be #992
thats also a rear start---told Jim as well--

nothing like passing 40 niners in the middle of a 120 degree day--------
got to love it--------


Let not thy will roar, when thy power can but whisper.
-- Dr. Thomas Fuller, Gnomologia, 1732

....I'm just sayin'....hahaha

[oldman dirt]

Sir you have NO IDEA !

I have the power of the Desert Demons on my side------

and thats all I am going to say-------666
This is a off road forum, NOT Sunday school, so you dont need to quote scripture.

You think I am so newbie that just fell off the back of Robby Gordon's Hay Hauler---

you probably wont get that--but the older folks will__



Besides it was meant in Jest-----so relax, and prep your car.
I also have some top secert Hair Products of my own.

[Johnson954]

Sir you have NO IDEA !

I have the power of the Desert Demons on my side------

and thats all I am going to say-------666
This is a off road forum, NOT Sunday school, so you dont need to quote scripture.

You think I am so newbie that just fell off the back of Robby Gordon's Hay Hauler---

you probably wont get that--but the older folks will__



Besides it was meant in Jest-----so relax, and prep your car.
I also have some top secert Hair Products of my own.

Trust me, I'm relaxed. And I'm old enough to remember the Firecracker 250, in fact, this picture is one of my favorite...took it as a kid.

55400

I'm just glad to hear you have the demons on your side for this race....I might actually finish one for once! As Lightning McQueen would say...."That's a great idea old timer!...Let's RACE!"

........YHWH....that by the way is a tetragram for the "unspoken name of God". It was used a couple of thousand years ago...maybe you're old enough to remember that?

Off road trash talking, with a spiritual twist! haha! I like it!

[oldman dirt]

LOL--I was at that race---
Mickey was the BOMB--and a really good friend-
All I want to do is finish--7 consistent laps and FINISH--
that will be top 5---
of course after lap 5 all bets are off if its close-------

its all about the journey anyway , RIGHT ??
See you there---------or at the TEST SESSION

[Johnson954]

LOL--I was at that race---
Mickey was the BOMB--and a really good friend-
All I want to do is finish--7 consistent laps and FINISH--
that will be top 5---
of course after lap 5 all bets are off if its close-------

its all about the journey anyway , RIGHT ??
See you there---------or at the TEST SESSION

I wish I would've know him....I can tell you that I will never forget that car!

The journey is going to be awesome, and I hope some more people sign up and actually make it. I think it would be awesome if we were pushing 50 to 60 cars.

See you there!

[sadrace]

Trust me, I'm relaxed. And I'm old enough to remember the Firecracker 250, in fact, this picture is one of my favorite...took it as a kid.

55400

I'm just glad to hear you have the demons on your side for this race....I might actually finish one for once! As Lightning McQueen would say...."That's a great idea old timer!...Let's RACE!"

........YHWH....that by the way is a tetragram for the "unspoken name of God". It was used a couple of thousand years ago...maybe you're old enough to remember that?

Off road trash talking, with a spiritual twist! haha! I like it!

Larry Minor built that car and sold it to mickey, mickey did some shock and suspension work to it and took it to the desert very fast. who knew

[AZ1000]

So are my boyz 100# Nate and Husky Chris going to bring the swingset out for this race?

[Johnson954]

Larry Minor built that car and sold it to mickey, mickey did some shock and suspension work to it and took it to the desert very fast. who knew


Another one of Larry Minor's creations that I loved....sorry for the poor picture....was not very good with my "disk camera"...remember those???

55416

I miss the variety that use to make up off road racing...

[justplainnate]

So are my boyz 100# Nate and Husky Chris going to bring the swingset out for this race?

yes boss the swing set will be there! we're planning on running the entire season this year, unless i get in to medic school in which the may race will be my last race for a little while. theres also a slight chance that we may have two nine cars for this big race...you should bring the 16 car out to play! come on, its gonna be fun:D

[sadrace]

Another one of Larry Minor's creations that I loved....sorry for the poor picture....was not very good with my "disk camera"...remember those???

55416

I miss the variety that use to make up off road racing...
sure , but i'm cheating larry is my grandaughters great grandpa, the man is truly an icon

[oldman dirt]

ahhhh how old we are----Bob Minor took me to baja for the first time 1968 NORRA 1000, chasing and riding in Greg Hawks baja--
nothing like 6 inches of travel and fiberglass seats-----------

so sadrace how was the cruise-----or are you still afloat

so are we putting a "geritol" team together------

Terry maybe you should get in on this---and if we could only find Graff Moore-----------
or
George Erl
or
Robert Savage
all old swingers from the past-----LOL

[oldman dirt]

the best nostalgia was Larry Schawchoffer's (sp.ck.) 57' chevy

sadrace--how many FAST guys came from HEMET ?? ALOT

[BUDMAN975]

Hemet? I thought only peoples grandparents lived there LOL, Usually when I tell people where I live that is what I hear. I see Larry all of the time and he still is doing well I recently raced against a team that he put together for a charity go-cart event, He is an awesome person and an icon to the sport. His grandson Josh is building a class 8 right now, it should be one heck of a creation, hopefully Larry will be back in the desert to help him out.

[MORE #911]

[QUOTE=MORE #911;736762]ffrank, ACME and Gitti.. tech notes noted .. I will address with the MORE big wheels on Monday.. including a tech observer we agree on. Plus any new ideas I see here on the weekend.
This stuff is new to me so gonna ask opinions..
Should I ask to let the top 3-5 finishers see each the weights of all cars? and what happens if one says no?

Any new tech requests? I am going to send a note to MORE Tues or Wed with the ideas we have so far.]

oh yes what is the bottom line on the top 5 seeing the car weights of each others cars?

[ffrank]

Hell Dave, I got nothing to hide ! I dont care who see's how husky our little girls is. I don't see why anyone would care if the weight of their car was availiabe to competitors. The closer you are to weight, the more homework you have done. Also, I'd like to see competitors clean her out of anything they think may be a spare or ???

[oldman dirt]

yeah mine has a fat ass-----
shes a little thick but built for the long haul----------
not to mention the driver/ballast shes carrying --------------LOL
I am probably giving up 75-100 in driver weight alone--

[MORE #911]

yeah mine has a fat ass-----
shes a little thick but built for the long haul----------
not to mention the driver/ballast shes carrying --------------LOL
I am probably giving up 75-100 in driver weight alone--

I hear you on the driver weight.. I am hittin 260 lbs of solid beer weight. My race diet os right on schedule.

[MORE #911]

Trail Glow Off Road Lighting

The group at Trail Glow has made contact and will sweeten the deal for the Big Race. Working on the details this week.

Trailglow has really made an effort to help us get ready for the Big Race. See the link below to acess a page that describes the products and payout for this race. You can place your order on the link and get a great discount.
www.trailglow.com/swinger
__________________

[Haney motorsports]

NO WAY...........................That is why we have a tech person there......this is getting crazy if someone says no so be it....dave what we are doing is creating a BIG race for all class 9 cars not rewriting tech inspection.IT should should stay as it has always been,Between the DOR,1 mech. and a TECH PERSON
sorry dave but this door has been opened before and caused some heat...keep it simple....the way it has always been


[QUOTE=MORE #911;736762]ffrank, ACME and Gitti.. tech notes noted .. I will address with the MORE big wheels on Monday.. including a tech observer we agree on. Plus any new ideas I see here on the weekend.
This stuff is new to me so gonna ask opinions..
Should I ask to let the top 3-5 finishers see each the weights of all cars? and what happens if one says no?

Any new tech requests? I am going to send a note to MORE Tues or Wed with the ideas we have so far.]

oh yes what is the bottom line on the top 5 seeing the car weights of each others cars?

[ffrank]

OK Chris, Then tell me who's rules we are going by. Have you ever seen a MORE rule book, me either, and I have asked repeatedy. Dont think they go by SCORE rules. Whatever Chris, looking forward to racing you!

[oldman dirt]

What is the big secert on how much your car weighs???

I dont get it----

Anyway, heres something to think about.

The combined age of the three man driving team for car #992 is over 150 years, with over 80 years of it, OFF ROAD RACING EXPERIENCE !

The combined weight of the three drivers is a stealth 700+lbs. , and that doesnt include the beer drinking co drivers !

And the car weighs---------------------------oh yeah we arent supposed to let anyone know--------PLEASE, give me a break.

Sidebets ANYONE ???????????

Lets start a pool say $100.00 an entry

[ffrank]

Sidebet... Im in.

[MORE #911]

What is the big secert on how much your car weighs???

I dont get it----

Anyway, heres something to think about.

The combined age of the three man driving team for car #992 is over 150 years, with over 80 years of it, OFF ROAD RACING EXPERIENCE !

The combined weight of the three drivers is a stealth 700+lbs. , and that doesnt include the beer drinking co drivers !

And the car weighs---------------------------oh yeah we arent supposed to let anyone know--------PLEASE, give me a break.

Sidebets ANYONE ???????????

Lets start a pool say $100.00 an entry

I got 680 lbs of driver weight, 130 years of age, and 5 years of combined race car driving for my three in the big race.
My car weighed 1601 lbs the last 2 races with no fuel, tools, spares.
Side bet.. I am in $100

[MORE #911]

Just to say.. we are hitting a wall on entries.. no new drivers comitting this week and only a few NV drivers.. I had little response from the MORE 07-08 DOR's invite other than those we already know signed up. We have a full page ad in the next Dusty Times coming out.. talk the race up and lets find some more racers.. We are at 25 or so.. need to bust 35 at least and 40 is the magic number.

[Slang]

It’s a MORE race and Jim was a swinger at one time, would/could he take an active role during tech? Jim has always been a (call it like you see it) kind of guy, and it’s his race not ours. I would like to see the post tech scales set up at contingency. Frank I admire your transparency through this process.

[racer951]

Will try to make this one for sure

[oldman dirt]

It’s a MORE race and Jim was a swinger at one time, would/could he take an active role during tech? Jim has always been a (call it like you see it) kind of guy, and it’s his race not ours. I would like to see the post tech scales set up at contingency. Frank I admire your transparency through this process.

Jim will be busy running the race----
Bill Markel would probably do it--he used to help ART all the time and knows the ropes-

[johnnyb985]

OK Chris, Then tell me who's rules we are going by. Have you ever seen a MORE rule book, me either, and I have asked repeatedy. Dont think they go by SCORE rules. Whatever Chris, looking forward to racing you!

Hey frank what rules are you worried about?? we all know the wieght rule,arts will check the motor,trans on the wheel,carb Lets try not to make this difficult,and go racing.:D

[MORE #911]

Sidebet... Im in.

Reminder:
Not to take away from the side bet ( I am in too).. remember this race has a $450 entry versus the standard MORE $360. The $90 is going right into the payback.
The $450 has been the entry from day one on the posts and race flyers.

[racer951]

Hey frank what rules are you worried about?? we all know the wieght rule,arts will check the motor,trans on the wheel,carb Lets try not to make this difficult,and go racing.:D

I think Frank's worried about the rules being enforced and post-tech'd properly.

I think top 3 should get a solid post-tech with the rest in the money getting some sort of inspection.

A baja bug body is not illegal so no protesting me on that!

[TauMau]

Dave at the MORE race this weekend you ought to ask Jim to make an announcement at the drivers meeting...have him mention the potential payout and you'll catch people's attention real quick. You may also consider printing out flyers and ask if they could hand them out with contingency/registration packets.

[MAD MAX 8]

Anyone lookin for a driver for this race? I'm pretty capable behind the wheel and I have some quality parts that can go on a car if needed. Just wonderin...I'd really like to partake some how.

[MORE #911]

Will try to make this one for sure

Can we add you the web entry list?

[YZBrad]

Hey Dave, you can change my car number on the website to 947. Will you be out in Barstow this weekend? Id like to meet a few more of the people Ill be racing with :D

[Haney motorsports]

Hey brad me and Mr Burns will be there give me a shout when you get there

[MORE #911]

Hey Dave, you can change my car number on the website to 947. Will you be out in Barstow this weekend? Id like to meet a few more of the people Ill be racing with :D

Will get you changed up on the web..I am racing this weekend!! the orange and white #911 car, also have an all white class c motorhome with my company name on the door like the race car at the race too..

[YZBrad]

Ok awesome, Ill keep my eyes open for you guys Dave and Chris. Ill have a little pit set up for Matt Creveling and the Woods at mile 5. If you guys need anything during the race just pull in. Ill have a sign that has 990 and 965 on it.

[racer951]

Can we add you the web entry list?

Yep, 931

[ACME]

Pinky, you racin this weekend? Someone saw ya test'n...

[racer951]

Not this weekend but we will be there in May. We were going to race the Mint but couldn't do both and had to make a decision.

Testing went well. We have a few small adjustments to make and by the time the big race rolls around, we'll be ready to run up front.

[TauMau]

There was an issue with the Pro-nine website that I've taken care of. I also updated a few things.

www.pro-nine.com

[MORE #911]

Jacob.. Thanks for all the hard work on the web site.. that Trailglow link looks great.you have done a great job on the web...this week to all I am sending another round of invites for the Big Race..some of you make get one again.. we still have not had any Nevada drivers step up. We need to get them on board. Any ideas from anyone?

[oldman dirt]

get some flyers to the 9's this weekend in Vegas at the Mint---

[MORE #911]

get some flyers to the 9's this weekend in Vegas at the Mint---

Great idea...I cant make it to the Mint.. I can email flyers to anyone heading that way.:)

[oldman dirt]

I thought BUD was racing it in the old 2 seat car?? With his injury maybe not---
Hey Bud you need a sit in driver ? -LOL

where are you Dave ??

[BUDMAN975]

I thought BUD was racing it in the old 2 seat car?? With his injury maybe not---
Hey Bud you need a sit in driver ? -LOL

where are you Dave ??

Thanks GiTi but I had already deceided to call off the MINT because I have way to many things going on and due to the fact that most of my pit crew would not have been able to attend I just have to skip this one. I will be more than ready for the next couple of events

[MORE #911]

I thought BUD was racing it in the old 2 seat car?? With his injury maybe not---
Hey Bud you need a sit in driver ? -LOL

where are you Dave ??

Apple Valley.. but Thursday to Monday I have biz travel..

[MORE #911]

Dusty Times sent me a copy of the upcoming full page race flyer today. Looks good. Hopefully it will help get the entries up! We need to get some of the Nevada regulars to sign on.

[MORE #911]

Its time to sign up on the MORE site for the Big Race!

[JJohnson]

are we running the whole 500 or what is the distance for class 9 for this race?

[johnnyb985]

[QUOTE=JJohnson;762401]are we running the whole 500 or what is the distance for class 9 for this race?[/QUOte will usually run 1 less lap like last year

[BBBBeans]

944 Christopher(DAZEY) Peterson
939 Lorenzo Duarte
920 Kurt Davidson
937 Drew Nieto R/S
999 Rick Moran
969 Arnold
985 Johnny Burns
996 Jimmy Taranto R/S
987 Nate Himmelrick

Where are the 9er signers on the MORE site?

[TauMau]

FYI - Just because your name is on the pro-nine site, doesn't mean you have been "officially" registered for this race. You MUST register with MORE...the list on the pro-nine site is only for "publicity" purposes.

[MORE #911]

35 cars if all committed are good to go.. lets go for 40..

[JJohnson]

Just signed up on the MORE site over the weekend! See you guys next month!

[MORE #911]

Just signed up on the MORE site over the weekend! See you guys next month!

Nice...see you out there.

[Polarcub]

Just go tthe word from Paul at Trail Glow

Slime will double the contingency if teams run the new Trail-Glow 4 color, diecut, lite-up SLIME logos. It is 12” wide and $80 per pair. Available from Paul @ TrailGlow Lighting.
I pic of the logo is in the general discussion forum...Thanks Slime and Trail Glow...this will be the 9 race of 9 races...cant wait.
Jeremy

[MORE #911]

Big Race Map is up on the MORE site:

http://moreracing.net/09/maps/09oraf.pdf

[JJohnson]

Big Race Map is up on the MORE site:

http://moreracing.net/09/maps/09oraf.pdf

any idea of how many laps were doin dave?

[MORE #911]

any idea of how many laps were doin dave?

Not yet.. I also did not send any ideas to MORE either.. We prob should.. I will ask on the other thread about laps run to see if anyone wants me too.

[AZ1000]

Is Gitti showing up??

[oldman dirt]

I will be there---
already entered---
if your going to come out I would like to pit together---------Giti

[MORE #911]

www.pro-nine.com has 40 entries listed on the web site based on email commits and MORE has 25 officially entered so far..

[MORE #911]

www.pro-nine.com has 40 entries listed on the web site based on email commits and MORE has 25 officially entered so far..

30 official entries on the MORE site.. 40 racers comitted on the www.pro-nine.com site.

We need 10 more entries to get extra bonus monies.

[YOSHIE]

WILLEY RACING will be there usually #976 but will run #967 for this race. Gettin greared up for King 250 this Saturday. Stoked!

[MORE #911]

WILLEY RACING will be there usually #976 but will run #967 for this race. Gettin greared up for King 250 this Saturday. Stoked!

Have a great race out there. Looking to racing you in May! Head to the MORE site and sign up.. get those other guys down there to come on up too:D

[YOSHIE]

I will man. We have 9 or 10 Nine Cars registered already for this race. If we can come up with 10 for sure, we'll get $1000.00 bonus cash. Have a good one,
WILLEY

[MORE #911]

some new info I copied off another thread:

148 pre-entered and Jim just announced the following on the MORE site.

"Because of the number of cars 150+, we have a meeting with the BLM Monday afternoon to see if we can add 8 more mile to the course it looks good and the number of laps will remain the same as posted. starting order will be discided after approval. Thanks"

I assume it will be the over and back section across Anderson Dry lake.
__________________
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[racer951]

8 miles x 6 laps = 48 more miles = a lot of pissed off cars if they have no down time and time out. I dont hav a problem with adding mileage but it would need to go to 14 hours.

Can you PM me the password for the MORE site?

[oldman dirt]

someone posted up the results from last years ORAF 500 but I cant find the file--it seemed to me that there were only 3 cars that finished under 12 hours.. I believe the winning time was 10:30. something---that was with 385 miles--7x55
Can you post them up again for me or email me

gitigowland@sbcglobal.net

So if we go 6x75 or 450 miles there is no way unless you run PERFECT that we are going to finish in 12 hours-thats a 2 hour average MAXIMUM
--maybe we suggest a 14 hour time limit??
I dont want to shorten the distance--too bad we couldnt have just had a 9 car race--like the PRO 1600 race every year and not had to "share" the track with anyone---oh well
I am planning on 6 x 1:50.00 laps so I will be ok---LOL
but seriously---we should talk about this--
cause you have to finish in the time limit to be a "OFFICAL" finisher-------------------

[kwood]

someone posted up the results from last years ORAF 500 but I cant find the file--it seemed to me that there were only 3 cars that finished under 12 hours.. I believe the winning time was 10:30. something---that was with 385 miles--7x55
Can you post them up again for me or email me

gitigowland@sbcglobal.net

So if we go 6x75 or 450 miles there is no way unless you run PERFECT that we are going to finish in 12 hours-thats a 2 hour average MAXIMUM
--maybe we suggest a 14 hour time limit??
I dont want to shorten the distance--too bad we couldnt have just had a 9 car race--like the PRO 1600 race every year and not had to "share" the track with anyone---oh well
I am planning on 6 x 1:50.00 laps so I will be ok---LOL
but seriously---we should talk about this--
cause you have to finish in the time limit to be a "OFFICAL" finisher-------------------

There you go, class 9 results start at the bottom of page 6.

http://moreracing.net/08/results/08oraf500.pdf

[racer951]

Either MORE raises it to 13 or 14 hours or I think we drop it to 5 laps.

Right now it's 6 laps x 66 miles = 396. After the course change it would be either 6 x 74 = 444 miles or 5 x 74 = 370 miles

444 miles @ 40mph average is 11 hours and 6 minutes. 444 miles @ 37 mph is 12 hours exactly. Looking at the results from last year, only the winner averaged over 37mph.

[oldman dirt]

thank you Mr Wood
If we add time I will have to take M.O.R.E. little "BLUE" pills !

[oldman dirt]

so it shows that 5 of the 16 cars finished under 12 hours and Rash's winning time was 10:14.-------------
and it was almost a 100 miles shorter-----do the math

[kwood]

thank you Mr Wood
If we add time I will have to take M.O.R.E. little "BLUE" pills !

You're welcome.

What was the time limit last year? Matt was the last official 9 finisher with just over 13 hours. Why was the time limit shortened?

[oldman dirt]

I dont know what the limit was but 8th was Matt Creveling in 13:01
so i am guessing it was 14 hours other wise over 13 would have been a DNF

Maybe move the start up to noon and go 14 hours--
start class 9 FIRST, and we would stand a chance on the limit

[racer951]

Has anyone heard from Forest Creasy on whether or not he'll come out?

[oldman dirt]

he better be there----------

[oldman dirt]

Jim has posted up on MORE about the course-- it will remain at 66.8 miles class one starting first------------
be prepared for alot of DUST !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MORE #911]

Entries at 34 for the last few days.. did we peak already?
I have mailed and sent emails to as many past 9 car drivers as I had info on. Dusty Times full page ad, and forum boards.. any ideas what to do next?

[Haney motorsports]

Has anyone heard from Forest Creasy on whether or not he'll come out?


When I talked to him last he mentioned a conflicting race with the vorra series that he runs every year....I don't think we will see him.It would be cool to get all the guys from up north to show up

[Johnson954]

Entries at 34 for the last few days.. did we peak already?
I have mailed and sent emails to as many past 9 car drivers as I had info on. Dusty Times full page ad, and forum boards.. any ideas what to do next?

I was thinking that if the race was shorter would might have some more entries. You figure 34 entries with most using at least two and sometimes three racers...that's 68 to 102 racers! That and the fact that this is a big race for 1/2 1600...we saw a few of those guys get class 9 rides for the last big race.

Hopefully we'll get at least 6 more to show up.

[Haney motorsports]

I was thinking that if the race was shorter would might have some more entries. You figure 34 entries with most using at least two and sometimes three racers...that's 68 to 102 racers! That and the fact that this is a big race for 1/2 1600...we saw a few of those guys get class 9 rides for the last big race.

Hopefully we'll get at least 6 more to show up.

Completely agree......this was the major hill for doing a long race.Where are all the south racers.....mdr,code,score

[Johnson954]

It looks like we are up to 35 now! Just need 5 more. Pretty good showing of VW's right now....I count at least 102!

class 5 = 12
class 5/1600 = 5
class 1/2 1600 = 24
class 9 = 35
class 11 = 9
class 12 = 17

....it would be nice if VW and VW mags would take notice.

[MORE #911]

I am going back after Hot VW's again this week. VW America is out for sure. Got the memo:(

[Shred918]

You are a rock star man!!!!!

So pro 9 series next year?

[MORE #911]

You are a rock star man!!!!!

So pro 9 series next year?

Jeff.. send me a message or an email.. dbolles@navajo.com

[Shred918]

Jeff.. send me a message or an email.. dbolles@navajo.com

e-mail sent

[MORE #911]

I am going back after Hot VW's again this week. VW America is out for sure. Got the memo:(

Hot VW's possible free lance coverage only. I communicated with the feature editor who told me the magazine staff was booked for that weekend on assignments and he would try and get a free lance writer to cover us as I got to him too late.
My fault for not following up on this earlier when my first attempt didnt make it happen.:mad:

[HDRA1]

Hot VW's possible free lance coverage only. I communicated with the feature editor who told me the magazine staff was booked for that weekend on assignments and he would try and get a free lance writer to cover us as I got to him too late.
My fault for not following up on this earlier when my first attempt didnt make it happen.:mad:

if you talk to mike from mikes race photos (pappawheely) on here he did a freelance for a pro 1600 race a little while back i am sure if you got ahold of him he could help you guys out. just a thought

[MORE #911]

if you talk to mike from mikes race photos (pappawheely) on here he did a freelance for a pro 1600 race a little while back i am sure if you got ahold of him he could help you guys out. just a thought

Thank you.. I will get on it.. HOT VW's sending me a ton of decals for the race.

36 "official" entries so far.. lets get 40!

[Johnson954]

Dave,

If you need someone to do a write up on the race for the magazine, I will volunteer. Here's something I wrote about my TT ride...(only as if I were driving)

Breathe…breathe. My heart pumps against the five point harness, snug on my chest. Wish it would slow down…breathe. High octane fumes fill my nose as I take a deep breath from the air pumped into my helmet. Check the gauges. Temps are fine. The tach surges…truck torques with every rev. Dust lingers as the competitor in front of me dwindles away. I roll towards the start line….30 seconds…breathe. I wiggle my fingers. Gripping the steering wheel in one hand, I slam the tinted visor closed with my other, eyes glued to the starting light. “Here we go guys!” I scream, pushing the radio button. My voice vibrates in my helmet. Sweat soaks my skin. Silence. Hot. Dizzy….breathe. Everything seems slow. The light turns green…

With a rush of reality, like coming out of a bad dream, I’m pressed against the seat as I mash the gas. All I can see is the light blue sky over the fiberglass hood. Time pauses again. Bliss. With needle point accuracy the bubble explodes. ROAR. VIBRATION. The rear tires dig. The truck surges, as if I’ve been rear ended….second gear…I crack a smile.

There are other blogs I've written about racing on my sponsorhouse site....link is in my signature.

[MORE #911]

Thats pretty intense!
Give me a day or so to see what HOT VW is doing for the freelance deal.

[MORE #911]

37 entires today. Keep the pressure on to get 40.

[MORE #911]

if you talk to mike from mikes race photos (pappawheely) on here he did a freelance for a pro 1600 race a little while back i am sure if you got ahold of him he could help you guys out. just a thought

Thanks for the info from HDRA1 we did get a HOT VW's hook up for coverage with Mike (RDC pappawheely, Mikes Race Photos) providing HOT VW's coverage for Class 9 at this race.

[JJohnson]

Does anyone know when they are going to release the starting order? or has it already been?

[kwood]

Does anyone know when they are going to release the starting order? or has it already been?

The drawing is usually the saturday before the race, so it should be posted on MORE racetalk either late saturday or early sunday.

[MORE #911]

Drawing is at
Slash X
Sat 5/16/09
1300

[JJohnson]

cool thanks guys, see you next weekend! How many total 9 cars do you think will be there?

[TauMau]

Take a look at the pro-nine entry list on the website:

www.pro-nine.com

If you know any names who haven't signed up with MORE yet, tell them to do it!

[MORE #911]

The "Big Race" is here.. thanks to Jacob Wisdom for his web support, RDC for the forums that allowed us to communicate, MORE and to all who offered support, help, ideas and those who are racing.. everyone have a great race!!

[ffrank]

Thanks for all you've done Dave and good luck!

[mark@PhotoAhead]

I got this warning when I tried to go to the pro 9 site

http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefox&hl=en-US&site=http://www.pro-nine.com/

Anyone else see it or know whats up

[KyleMurray]

it works fine for me... thats odd

[TauMau]

Hey Mark when was the last time you got the message? I re-uploaded all the files earlier today and have a feeling it may have taken care of the problem

[mark@PhotoAhead]

Hey Mark when was the last time you got the message? I re-uploaded all the files earlier today and have a feeling it may have taken care of the problem

I never got it until Wed night.
Always ok before
Reading that message I'm not sure if it says there is a problem or not.
It reads like there is but then farther down it sounds like there might not be.

[mark@PhotoAhead]

Also that is the first time I have ever seen that message for any site.
It pops up a bright red warning and then you can go to the page I linked too.

[kwood]

Results??

[Mark Anderson]

Results

1st Steve Lang

2nd Dave Bolles

3rd Giti Gowland

31 cars entered

11 participated in the side bet

[kwood]

Thanks! Congrats steve lang!

[KyleMurray]

congrats to steve and dave! it was great to meet all of you out there

[mrmatt]

A bog congrats to Steve! What a nice day for the 988!
Also awesome run for Dave Bolles, Congrats!

COngrats to all that finished this incredible race!

I am too tired to recap anything for us right now but tommorow I will spend some time up here!

[REEVESRacing]

Congrats to Steve - we <#1461> pitted next to him and his wife and team at last yrs. Powder Puff, which they won too! Great team, car and folks.

Talked to Perry McNeil, lost the tranny on second lap, said he was running up front on the first lap with another car that was just "dialed!!!" Steve?

Congrats to all, sounded like a great race for the 9's!

[racer951]

Congrats Steve. I teched early but I'm still good for the $100 so let me know where to send the check.

31 Starters
5 Finishers

8 more made 5 laps but not 6

[KyleMurray]

Congrats to Steve - we <#1461> pitted next to him and his wife and team at last yrs. Powder Puff, which they won too! Great team, car and folks.

Talked to Perry McNeil, lost the tranny on second lap, said he was running up front on the first lap with another car that was just "dialed!!!" Steve?

Congrats to all, sounded like a great race for the 9's!


was Perry McNiel driving a 2 seater silver car?

[harleys dad]

Congrats Steve. I teched early but I'm still good for the $100 so let me know where to send the check.

31 Starters
5 Finishers

8 more made 5 laps but not 6
Only 5 out of 31 finished?? Must have looked like a junk yard out there

[racer951]

Only 5 out of 31 finished?? Must have looked like a junk yard out there

It was but compounding that was the narrow time limit set by MORE.

Kyle, did you guys get by me when I was facing backwards at Pit A or on my side at MM30? Who drove lap #1?

[KyleMurray]

well 11 cars finished... but 11 hours was not enough time for a class 9 car to finish 400 miles. you have to have a perfect run just to make the time. we were down an hour and they cut us short.

[mrmatt]

It was but compounding that was the narrow time limit set by MORE.


Kyle, did you guys get by me when I was facing backwards at Pit A or on my side at MM30? Who drove lap #1?
It was a very tight time limit. After our 2 broken spring plates we were only able to get 4 laps completed.
BTW Thank you Frank for hooking me up. I will PM you in the morning so I can get those plates returned to you.

What happend at mm 30? We saw you and you gave us thumbs up that you were ok but we we didn't see you again.

[racer951]

I just ran out of talent. It was a 4th gear downhill section then a few whoops. It went up on the left wheels then went over a couple times, not sure how many. I should have rolled once earlier and not there so I guess it works both ways. Bent an axle and a few things in the front end.

Thanks for looking for the thumbs up; those doors come in handy when climbing out of the car.

I heard I wasn't the only class 9 who went over a few times. Any other stories?

[mrmatt]

I didn't go over (2 close ones though) but I managed to break 2 spring plates. We managed to get 4 laps completed before we ran out of time. I am so proud of my crew for getting us going both times, they were awesome!

I am beat and have to go to bed finally but I will post some more tommorow

[TauMau]

Who drove lap #1?

Kyle drove the first lap. I should have some in car of his kamikaze run that I'll post up.

[justplainnate]

we got a finish out of this race. we had fuel pump issues on the first lap and flat. then on the second lap we had another flat along with a bent rear drum and one more flat on the last lap. thanks to everyone in the pits with RPI, ACME, silcock, messicks, piersons, haney and all his guys. sorry to everyone im forgetting, i know theres quite a few of you. congrats to lang, bolles, poole, and johnson all for finishing. thanks to Husky for getting the car to me. hopefully we'll be at the next one.

[KyleMurray]

It was but compounding that was the narrow time limit set by MORE.

Kyle, did you guys get by me when I was facing backwards at Pit A or on my side at MM30? Who drove lap #1?

if memory serves me right, i believe we got by you somewhere between mm 7 and 30. i ended up driving the first two laps.

[iceman]

i drove the hot graphics 919 car on lap 4 never drove a 9er before and had alot of fun. we were within 5-10 min from being allowed to do another lap so we only did 5 I want to thank Renzo Ricci for allowing me to drive his car and if anyone needs a car built go see Ryan Schank he built an awesome car and looks good to. thanks to joey and brit and the rest of our dez family couldnt have raced without good pits

[MORE #911]

The 911 car had a great fun race. Got a little shook up when the car began to run really bad at mile three off the start. Limped along to mile 11 were the ACME pit heard my car popping bad & waved me in and fixed me up. A plug wire had pulled off.
Hats off to ACME for helping me out it was very cool. Got rolling again and up to speed.. had two flats on lap 4 and on the final lap 2nd gear went away. Made it to the finish under the time limit.

My friends Paul Eddy and Ron Thomas drove the race with me and got us up to the front and did a fantastic job.

Thank you to Ryan Schank for the hard work of fixing what I tore up last race and for aother great set up and trans on the car for the "Big Race" .. that race seat felt just fine and stayed dry!

Thanks to my team (my wife Maria, Mark Pickering, Derek Clark, Paul Eddy, Ron Thomas and Ryan Schank) all who made this race special for me with a great finish.

[oldman dirt]

Congrats to everyone that went and took part in Dave Bolles
"BIG RACE".
Without Dave this would not have happened---------


We had a good race for a bunch of old men.
Our only problem was a steering knuckle that was loose and short of welding it was going to stay that way, and a bad upper front end bushing.We stopped on all but one lap to check it, making sure it didnt get any worse. driving with 4-5 inches of play in the steering wheel was a bit unnerving, if it had let go it would have been a certain rollover, and a destroyed car.
I want to thank Rick Poole again for allowing me to use his car. For a car that is 23 years old, this baby is dialed. The fastest nine car I have ever driven, thanks to Doug Perault's masterful talents as a engine builder ! Doug came out to tune and check the motor and do the teardown in the post tech, THANK YOU DOUG !!!
If you need a good motor get ahold of DOUG PERAULT.
We could have had some better lights, I was over driving them pretty much everywhere in the back section, I was wishing I had had my 5 HID HELLAS on board but not making any excuses for my driving. I drove 85 percent, with a finish in mind, but other than that, and a seat belt adjuster that dug a two inch wide cut in my side it was an awesome race. We could replace the coupler, and the bushing and do another event right now, thats how tight the car is. This is one sweet ride.
Congrats to the Lang team on a consistent race and the win.
and to Dave Bolles team for second.
I told everyone it was going to be that way, a consistent racer would win, not a super fast one.
It seperates the men from the boys when you have to think about the drive as well as go fast. Twelve hours was tight but do able. We logged 23 minutes in the pits. That was our down fall.
Until next time-------------------------Giti

[oldman dirt]

A little side note on weight--our car was 1609 "officially"
my codriver and I weigh a combined 510 lbs.
YOU DO the MATH !!
LOL
But seriously didnt we all have fun????
This needs to be a annual deal along with a event at GLEN HELEN .
THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE.

[oldman dirt]

well 11 cars finished... but 11 hours was not enough time for a class 9 car to finish 400 miles. you have to have a perfect run just to make the time. we were down an hour and they cut us short.
It was a 12 ( twelve ) hour limit not 11.
I agree we should have had MORE time and also done 7 laps, or the full distance.

[CRASH1]

Congrats to Lang and all the finishers!

[KyleMurray]

It was a 12 ( twelve ) hour limit not 11.
I agree we should have had MORE time and also done 7 laps, or the full distance.


well by the time we were off the line it was 2:50...

[racer951]

well by the time we were off the line it was 2:50...

The 12 hours starts when you take off; it's not based on the first car off the line.

[oldman dirt]

The 12 hours starts when you take off; it's not based on the first car off the line.

thanks for explaining that to the young man----------------

[KyleMurray]

The 12 hours starts when you take off; it's not based on the first car off the line.


thats what i thought, but everyone told me that it was 12 hours from when the first car left the line. well whatever it was a great race with a lot of fun and thats all that matters :D

[oldman dirt]

congrats on FAST LAP Kyle !!!! 1:39.14

[oldman dirt]

I said it would be 1:40.00
boy was I wrong---LOL

[mrmatt]

It was a really great race! It was awesome to be doing battle over 30 cars! Steve, Dave, Giti and Steve(I don't remember who else completed all six laps)...Congrats! The time limit didn't exactly allow for much downtime.

As for us, the first 58 miles was awesome! So much racing going on all over the place. I will say that there was a 1450 truck that was really getting on my nerves around mm33-35! We were having a good run, the car felt great my Co-driver Bryan Grigsby was incredible. Especially considering that it was his first time in a swinger. WE were running exactly how we had planned...just trying to make a good consistant pace. Then Disaster struck about mm 58. The car started handling very poorly, kinda like the right rear shock had blown out. We drove the car 5 miles to our pit to find out that the right rear spring plate had bent and looked a little like an "s" shape. We had no spares and Frank Wagner was kind enough to let me borrow 2. After getting it changed out Bryan and I leave again and everyuthing was great. We The car felt awesome. Thank you to my Dad for a nice eyeball on the setup! We were back running great all through lap 2 and MOST of 3 we had even been catching some of the other 9's again, until mm 52 when......the left spring plate broke:mad: This time there was no driving the car out. But our chase crew got all the stuff togethor and brought us everything we needed to get the car going. At this point we had enough time to make 1 make 1 more lap but were concerned about damaging soething else going wrong. I decided to limp the car around to S/F and at least get points for 3 laps but the car felt good enough to continue as planned so I pulled into our main pit to turn the car over to my Dad and Greg Ferruzo. They had a great lap and were able to pull the car into s/f to complete the 4th lap within the time limit.

All in all it was a great race. I am glad that we never gave up and at least get some points out of it.

I have got to say a huge THANK YOU to the entire Kaveman Motorsports team. My Mom, My wife who did a great job dealing with our poor radio communication, Tony and Victor Rojo for their mad chase skills (sorry about your shock mounts), Brian Beeler who has been so awesome all season long for us, his family for helping us, Justin, David and the other one (sorry I forgot your name!) for helping us out (I will get you your shirts, too!), Vlad and Susan....great job especially because it was your first off-road race ever, hope the experience was good! Lyndsy, thank you for letting Bryan Co-drive with me, he was awesome! The Wood 965 Team for supporting us.Thank you to FRANK WAGNER for the use of your spring plates! And thank to all I may have forgotten.

I also have to say THANK YOU to TRAILGLOW LIGHTING for your support! Thge new lights were incredible.....seeing was definatley not an issue! And the number panels made us look cool too! Too bad we had to use the flash function:mad: The pit sign was easy to see since it lite up and my pit crew was easy to see with their vests on. THANK YOU Paul and Paul Jr. for everything.

Thanks to all the swingers for showing up and making this a great event!

[BLACKMARKETBRYAN]

it was a blast matt !!! Even though i am less a pair of gloves now ! lol

[oldman dirt]

I would like to thank Mark Anderson as well for being my paper weight in the car. Most of you dont know him but he is a 9 racer from the past 89-92 era, and a long time friend and co driver.
Maybe this will inspire him to rebuild his car and come play again--------------------------------------------Giti

[mrmatt]

it was a blast matt !!! Even though i am less a pair of gloves now ! lol


I will buy you new ones buddy! What kind do you want....with or without pee?:D

You really did an incredible job Bryan! Thank you......and I really will get you some new gloves.

[Reaper Race]

Car 919 would like to say thank-you to Ryan Schank for the new car he build for us. Chassis looks great. The car handled great. The motor had great power. No test time and to get 6th place and have no probloms that is what we call very good build car. We would also like to thank the Norris, Westoffs, Bob, Sean and his son. If it was not for all of them we would not have finished the race. Can't wait tell the July race.

good job everyone

[tcm glx]

Matt, our pleasure man!! We had a blast. As for Bryans gloves.... ummm, no comment!

[BUDMAN975]

WOW what can I say, congrats Steve Lang on the win and congrats to everyone that was able to finish. I had a very eventful day I am sure many of you saw the skidplate of my car at mile 33 on lap 1 Damn Washouts. (Thanks Dave for making sure I was OK) luckily I was able to get the car turned over by myself and continued on. On the second lap I had a rear shock blow the top of the reservoir off and had to limp for 40 miles not to mention that because of my new BARN BURNER engine ran so good it threw off my fuel strategy and I ran out at mile 40. I got back to main pit after waiting for a while for my chase man to get fuel out to me and because of the roll my front drivers side tire was cambered in so we changed the arms rebuilt my rear shock and kicked it into high gear for lap 3 and ran a 1 hour 36 minute lap time by our clock (minus the pit stop) with only 2 lights, no disrespect Kyle/Jacob you guys did an awesome job, I knew you would love the new trans I just want to showoff my crews skills because they worked their butts off. Anyway laps 3 and 4 were flawless and I let my back up driver John Ward get in to run laps 5 and 6, he too did an awesome job getting the car back to the finish in a very quick time, sadly we were un-able to start the last lap. I have to hand it to my crew they all did an amazing job getting me back out on the course and I was so happy to almost get back into the top 10, after a day like that I feel great and to be there at the end is almost like a win in itself. Thanks Dave Bolles for organizing this event and thanks to all who showed up, it wouldn't have been the same without you, also thanks MORE for putting up with all of us racers and giving us a place to race. I hope all can make it out to the MORE Freedom 250 in July.

[TauMau]

Bud I was bummed when I saw you come through Main with some missing top lights -- I figured you must have rolled. Bummer dude and way to lay down a hot lap. Sounds like you had your car and crew working overtime.

And yes the new trans kicks ass!! Unfortunately a slight fuel miscalculation with the new motor and there goes our race :(

[racer951]

WOW what can I say, congrats Steve Lang on the win and congrats to everyone that was able to finish. I had a very eventful day I am sure many of you saw the skidplate of my car at mile 33 on lap 1 Damn Washouts. (Thanks Dave for making sure I was OK) luckily I was able to get the car turned over by myself and continued on. On the second lap I had a rear shock blow the top of the reservoir off and had to limp for 40 miles not to mention that because of my new BARN BURNER engine ran so good it threw off my fuel strategy and I ran out at mile 40. I got back to main pit after waiting for a while for my chase man to get fuel out to me and because of the roll my front drivers side tire was cambered in so we changed the arms rebuilt my rear shock and kicked it into high gear for lap 3 and ran a 1 hour 36 minute lap time by our clock (minus the pit stop) with only 2 lights, no disrespect Kyle/Jacob you guys did an awesome job, I knew you would love the new trans I just want to showoff my crews skills because they worked their butts off. Anyway laps 3 and 4 were flawless and I let my back up driver John Ward get in to run laps 5 and 6, he too did an awesome job getting the car back to the finish in a very quick time, sadly we were un-able to start the last lap. I have to hand it to my crew they all did an amazing job getting me back out on the course and I was so happy to almost get back into the top 10, after a day like that I feel great and to be there at the end is almost like a win in itself. Thanks Dave Bolles for organizing this event and thanks to all who showed up, it wouldn't have been the same without you, also thanks MORE for putting up with all of us racers and giving us a place to race. I hope all can make it out to the MORE Freedom 250 in July.

Considering where we started and when we rolled, you went over 60-90 seconds before I did. I guess that couple of miles ate up 9 cars.

[BUDMAN975]

Bud I was bummed when I saw you come through Main with some missing top lights -- I figured you must have rolled. Bummer dude and way to lay down a hot lap. Sounds like you had your car and crew working overtime.

And yes the new trans kicks ass!! Unfortunately a slight fuel miscalculation with the new motor and there goes our race :(

I feel your pain, where abouts did you run out?

[BUDMAN975]

Considering where we started and when we rolled, you went over 60-90 seconds before I did. I guess that couple of miles ate up 9 cars.

Yeah I was looking for a faster line, the only problem is the line I was on was only faster for about 10 seconds, and they say pre-running is over-rated ;)

[TauMau]

I feel your pain, where abouts did you run out?

I believe they ran out at about mile 49 on lap 2. It sucks waiting in the pit with your race gear on ready for the driver change and seeing all the cars they were ahead of the lap before going by and wondering what the F is up...

[oldman dirt]

Laps only count from scoring loop to scoring loop. They begin at S/F and end there. Not ck 3 to ck 3. If we had given a fast lap award thats how they would have awarded it--------
you had a 1:48.
Live with it
Mr Murray gets the best time, he didnt finish all 6 either---
I say we just go back out in July and do it again--------

[TauMau]

Bud was just giving some credit to his crew. He had no intention of being recognized as holding the fastest lap of the race

[Mohr]

Results are up!!

[Slang]

[QUOTE=racer951;810761]Congrats Steve. I teched early but I'm still good for the $100 so let me know where to send the check.

Thanks for the honesty, I didn't see your name on the original list on here, so I think we are good.

Thanks again for the offer.

Sorry to read about your roll over, hopefully there was not too much damage.

Steve Lang

[ffrank]

Congrats Steve, awsome job!

[Shred918]

Congrats Steve, awsome job!

What happened to the Trophy 9 there Frank?

[oldman dirt]

What happened to the Trophy 9 there Frank?
His rubber band snapped-------------( Motor failure )
It was nice to sit and visit with you ffrancis.
Never fun sitting around waiting for the car to finish the last lap, never knowing if it will.

[Shred918]

His rubber band snapped-------------( Motor failure )
It was nice to sit and visit with you ffrancis.
Never fun sitting around waiting for the car to finish the last lap, never knowing if it will.

Motor failure always sucks.... I meant to hunt you down so we could meet Giti but it was pretty damn late when I made it back to main.

[oldman dirt]

I was in tech till 3:30am

[Shred918]

I was in tech till 3:30am

I guess we could have hooked up then. I will catch you at the next race I suppose?

[EUGENIO_979]

I was in tech till 3:30am

What did the post tech consist of?

[oldman dirt]

pump the fuel
weigh the car--ours was 1690 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!plus all the spares we carry
trans wheel
p&g motor
carb check

[justplainnate]

Thanks for the info from HDRA1 we did get a HOT VW's hook up for coverage with Mike (RDC pappawheely, Mikes Race Photos) providing HOT VW's coverage for Class 9 at this race.

any word on when the coverage from the big race will be in hot vw's?

[MORE #911]

any word on when the coverage from the big race will be in hot vw's?

No news yet..

[KyleMurray]

any news on the Hot VW coverage?

[pappawheely]

I'm writing the story. I got a race report from Giti but have not heard from anyone else. If you have a report send it to me. I will make sure you are informed when it hits the newsstand. :)

competitionphoto at roadrunner.com

[MORE #911]

I'm writing the story. I got a race report from Giti but have not heard from anyone else. If you have a report send it to me. I will make sure you are informed when it hits the newsstand. :)

competitionphoto at roadrunner.com

Mike. I will get working on this...Thanks!

[MORE #911]

Make sure you guys follow up on the race reports!

[Johnson954]

I sent one to him...

[KyleMurray]

did the issue of HOTVW ever come out with the big race? i havent seen it.

[MORE #911]

did the issue of HOTVW ever come out with the big race? i havent seen it.

not yet.. papa wheely was going to send us a note and i also have checked the newsstands.

[KyleMurray]

not yet.. papa wheely was going to send us a note and i also have checked the newsstands.

sounds good. thanks dave;)