Talladega

[kaw500]

Plate racing at its best, gotta love 3 wide 12 deep at 190MPH.

RG does well at the big track but he said he's worried about the speed of his car for this weekend. He's in the race, will qualify in the back, hang out there for a late run and a top 10.

MM 2 in a row?

I'm going on a Dual Sport ride in San Luis Obisbo on Sunday, 1st time I will miss Dega in many moons but I'm getting too old to sit and watch TV every weekend. ;)

[VentureCrew35]

Talladega. Great for watching, nightmare for fantasy picks. Never know who's gonna be in the big one.

[michael_loomis]

Damn Rex.. rub it in why dont you! SLO is a beautiful place.. would love to dual sport my way to all those bars! lol

Hopefully RG can get something going.. why is he worried about the speed of his car?

[Racer21(Roberto)]

Doesn't say he's worried.
He's bringing the car in which he got all of his good finishes in.
http://www.robbygordon.com/cms/publish/article_1269.shtml

Im excited for this weekend. Im going to watch all of the races at talladega.

Are they racing truck series too? or maybe ARCA?

[Bricoop]

Damn Rex.. rub it in why dont you! SLO is a beautiful place.. would love to dual sport my way to all those bars! lol

Hopefully RG can get something going.. why is he worried about the speed of his car?

I agree. I'm currently living in SLO(Graduated from Poly in late March) and just hanging out until the job starts in November. If anyone's ever gonna be up here hit me up and we'll grab a brew downtown.

In regards to Talladega I see it as a crap shoot for Robby. Either 30+ or top 10.

[RGFan]

Doesn't say he's worried.
He's bringing the car in which he got all of his good finishes in.
http://www.robbygordon.com/cms/publish/article_1269.shtml

Im excited for this weekend. Im going to watch all of the races at talladega.

Are they racing truck series too? or maybe ARCA?

He said he's worried in this video........http://www.planetrobby.com/video/phoenix-subway-fresh-fit-500

[Ryan_P]

He said he's worried in this video........http://www.planetrobby.com/video/phoenix-subway-fresh-fit-500

What I find funny is that everytime RG is confident in a good run, he runs like **BAN ME****BAN ME****BAN ME****BAN ME****BAN ME**. When he's worried, he runs well. He never has a "fast" speedway car, but it handles very well moving up in the draft. Personally, I'd rather have a handling car than something that is fast. As long as RG can make some friends on the track, drafting partners, he'll be ok.

[Offspring]

#7=P1 (for now)

[Racer21(Roberto)]

He said he's worried in this video........http://www.planetrobby.com/video/phoenix-subway-fresh-fit-500

thanks for posting. I didn't see that video.
When i was looking at that video, I saw another video that said RG is P1 in practice.

Also, the ARCA race is on right now. 40 laps to go.

[Offspring]

green/white/checkers for Lofton!

[Offspring]

Got it!

[woundedyak]

Don't know if anyone is watching the Nation wide race,but holy hell! Cars going from 15th to the lead back down to 20th with in a half lap.Looks like a good race so far!

[Racer21(Roberto)]

awesome flip by Kenseth in the nationwide race.

[VentureCrew35]

awesome flip by Kenseth in the nationwide race.

Was scary when the thing caught fire. Thank God he ended up on his wheels.

[RojoOjoRacin]

looks like a green white checker

[RojoOjoRacin]

What a finish... David Ragen takin the victory

[VentureCrew35]

How about Kyle Busch, gets a top ten finish and he's throwing a fit as if he's the one that got turned into the wall.

[Tristar Racing]

How about Kyle Busch, gets a top ten finish and he's throwing a fit as if he's the one that got turned into the wall.

Hes a baby. Just another reason why I dislike him...

[woundedyak]

Did anyone catch the truck race before it got rained out? 70 laps in Ickler was in the 2nd spot.

[Racer21(Roberto)]

Did anyone catch the truck race before it got rained out? 70 laps in Ickler was in the 2nd spot.

I tuned to it, and "Back in the day" was on, and i was a little confused.
nascar.com says that it will resume Monday at 8AM pst

[michael_loomis]

I hope it continues to be a great weekend for off roaders on pavement!!

GAS ON!

[Racer21(Roberto)]

Holy crap, look at RG! moved up 20 spots in the first 2 laps!

[woundedyak]

Well,my fantasy picks just took a crap in 7 laps

[Racer21(Roberto)]

Well,my fantasy picks just took a crap in 7 laps

me too. that was the baddest wreck since we have had the COT.
All I have now is Ragan. oh well. hopefully the youngsters can pull it off.

[firedog]

Did RG get caught up in that wreck? Could not tell on the tv.

[DanDan]

Looks like RG made it through the big one. 14th I think right now.

[BenStock]

Going to be nice to hear the announcers talk about some other racers besides the normal over marketed big money guys.

Either that or we'll get 170 laps of hearing about Jr.

[woundedyak]

RG should be able to get up front at lead some laps. Problem is, I doubt anyone is going to partner up with him.

[Racer21(Roberto)]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXU2ExI4Ugs

I just posted it. hopefully it doesn't infringe on any copyrights, i didn't care to check.

[fishd00d]

RG "I just hit a bird" lol

[woundedyak]

Geeeeezzzzzus,12min of racing 45min in commercials.

[BenStock]

A fine piece of driving for POS would be to check his mirrors before nearly taking out him and his teammate.

[DanDan]

POS showing us what he does best. "I thought I had him cleared." At least it was his teammate. Although I do kinda like MA.

[DanDan]

Geeeeezzzzzus,12min of racing 45min in commercials.

That's OK. They switch to commercial and I switch to World Superbikes.

[woundedyak]

That's OK. They switch to commercial and I switch to World Superbikes.

Good Point

[DanDan]

RGs done. Looked like he was caught up in someones mistake.

[woundedyak]

RGs done. Looked like he was caught up in someones mistake.

He's going to be soar tomorrow.

[Big Hock]

He's going to be soar tomorrow.

That was a hell of a hit.

[DanDan]

He's going to be soar tomorrow.

Yep. He pounded the inside wall pretty hard.

[VentureCrew35]

RGs done. Looked like he was caught up in someones mistake.

Yep. Hamlin turned Montoya. Thus further ruining my fantasy picks. Montoya was having a killer day and making me very happy.

[Racer21(Roberto)]

sad... He was doing really good, and than he got wrecked again. He's not very good at being in the right place at the right time.

[VentureCrew35]

sad... He was doing really good, and than he got wrecked again. He's not very good at being in the right place at the right time.

RG, Montoya, or both?

[RGFan]

That was a hard hit RG took, glad he is moving........... Beginning of the end for RGM? Will most likely be outside of the top 35 for points.

[Mumzy]

WAJ.....

I think everyone of my picks are in the garage.:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[DanDan]

Wow. I thought CE had it but no. What a crash.

[Racer21(Roberto)]

DANG~! that hit by the 99 was hard! AMAZING finish! glad to see a rookie win!

[pjc]

That was bad ass!

Edwards tried to shut the door on Keselowski, his drafting benefactor and wadded big time..

What was the attrition, 55%?

[VentureCrew35]

DANG~! that hit by the 99 was hard! AMAZING finish! glad to see a rookie win!

Great race by Brad. Crash was just a restrictor plate racing incident. Major props to Edwards for running across the finish line, too. Most other drivers would've gone after the person they made contact with. Carl just wanted to cross the line.

[Racer21(Roberto)]

RG, Montoya, or both?

Robby gordon. he was moving up fast

[m80ondirt]

Congrats to Keselowski!!!

[DanDan]

Congrats to Keselowski!!!

I agree. I was a little upset with Brad but then I saw the replays and heard his side of it and he did nothing wrong.

[BenStock]

Crazy finish.

Hope the local Wal*Mart near Talledega is stocked up on underwear cause everyone sitting behind that fence where the 99 hit are in need of new ones.

[RGFan]

This race was insane!!!!! Look for more restrictor plate being added......Carl should not have blocked......I am glad Carl is calling it the way it happened.......This rule is taking a beating, Carl just called out Nascar....You can not go below the yellow line

[DanDan]

Carl sure is a class act.

[fishd00d]

F'ing Awesome!! Simple the coolest thing I have EVER seen in Nascar history was Carl getting out of the car and running the last 50 yards to the finish line!!! Ricky Bobby hell ya!

[fishd00d]

So Rad!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcCWhltnS2E

[manicmechanic]

looks like carl should have settled for second on that one. The typical run high dive low, carl slammed the door to late.

[woundedyak]

Is BK running the whole season? Was he running for Jr's team or Hendrick? That by far was one of the best neck races I've seen in a long time. Bummer there was so much carnage. I love how they didn't say a word about BK all day. They only talk about the 24 being off the track and the 99 riding around in the back. Congrats to the Rookie being twice the mature driver then half the field. Oh Yeah,R.I.P RGM.

[PLS]

Is BK running the whole season? Was he running for Jr's team or Hendrick? That by far was one of the best neck races I've seen in a long time. Bummer there was so much carnage. I love how they didn't say a word about BK all day. They only talk about the 24 being off the track and the 99 riding around in the back. Congrats to the Rookie being twice the mature driver then half the field. Oh Yeah,R.I.P RGM.

He was driving for James Finch. The 09 car is being driven by a variety of drivers including BK, Sterling Marlin, and Mike Bliss. The car was purchased from Hendrick, and they lease the motors from Hendrick. The team is trying to make all the races, but haven't made a few.

[NicksTrix]

cousin carl, you go.

[RGFan]

Is BK running the whole season? Was he running for Jr's team or Hendrick? That by far was one of the best neck races I've seen in a long time. Bummer there was so much carnage. I love how they didn't say a word about BK all day. They only talk about the 24 being off the track and the 99 riding around in the back. Congrats to the Rookie being twice the mature driver then half the field. Oh Yeah,R.I.P RGM.

Word that......No matter what others are saying, RGM's Cup program is in some deep shiot. From a driving standpoint, it just may be a blessing in disguise for RG......May have to actually finish his career driving for a top notch team.........The way Casey Mears is working out at RCR, there may be a seat open before to long ( I know, a guy can dream, cant he?)

[michael_loomis]

WOW.. I cant believe how high Carl was, he just swung out there like a gigantic curveball!!

I haven't gotten to watch my DVR yet, but was RG atleast moving to the front before the wreck?

[b-makk]

Penalties on the way for RGM? He was too low after qualifying inspection.

[RGFan]

WOW.. I cant believe how high Carl was, he just swung out there like a gigantic curveball!!

I haven't gotten to watch my DVR yet, but was RG atleast moving to the front before the wreck?

As usual, he hung out in the back for the majoriity fo the race. With about 30 to go, he began his climb but seemed to stall in the 15-25th range on his climb to the front when the accident happened. I do not think he would have finished any better then 15th had the accident not happened. RG's wreck was awful, head on into the wall, minus the Hans, new car and safer barrier, RG would have been hurt in that wreck. I was glad to see him moving in the car. If you ever want to hear DW say a nice thing about RG, you hear him say it after the wreck. It was the worst wreck of the race, heck, the worst wreck in quite some time until Carl began his flying lessons.

[BenStock]

If Robby would of hit another 100 feet down the inside wall, he would of missed the safer barrier. That could of been ugly.

Pretty impressed with the fence that held Carl's car away from the spectators. Can't imagine the forces that they're absorbing. Happy to hear that there weren't any life threatening injuries to the specs.

[RojoOjoRacin]

Good thing the new COT is 1.75x.095 chromoly chassis.

[Bricoop]

If Robby would of hit another 100 feet down the inside wall, he would of missed the safer barrier. That could of been ugly.

Pretty impressed with the fence that held Carl's car away from the spectators. Can't imagine the forces that they're absorbing. Happy to hear that there weren't any life threatening injuries to the specs.

Think if that car would have gotten 10 feet higher. Thank God it did not.

[SandGurl]

Most other drivers would've gone after the person they made contact with. Carl just wanted to cross the line.

I thought that was where he was headed to first when he came out of the car and was flinging his gear off. He was a true professional however.


F'ing Awesome!! Simple the coolest thing I have EVER seen in Nascar history was Carl getting out of the car and running the last 50 yards to the finish line!!! Ricky Bobby hell ya!

Ricky Bobby all the way! We were laughing and saying the same thing at our house!


Pretty impressed with the fence that held Carl's car away from the spectators. Can't imagine the forces that they're absorbing. Happy to hear that there weren't any life threatening injuries to the specs.

It was amazing that it held the car off the spectators the way it did. Did you see the shots of the fence afterwards? Wow.

[VentureCrew35]

Am I wrong, or is this the first time the new car has gone airborne because of air getting under it and lifting it? I know it's gone airborne because of hitting things (like walls), but I can't remember it ever taking of because of aerodynamics.

[RGFan]

Am I wrong, or is this the first time the new car has gone airborne because of air getting under it and lifting it? I know it's gone airborne because of hitting things (like walls), but I can't remember it ever taking of because of aerodynamics.

THe back wheels have lifted off of the ground on the new car, but never the entire car. Looking at the replay on Sunday, Newmans car hitting him is what caused the car to launch like it did. With out Newman being there, the car would have hit the wall and that would have been the end of it IMO

[RGFan]

Maybe Matt will chime in here..........Excuse my ignorance in aerodynamic theory, but why couldn't nascrap work on some kind of diffuser (for lack of a better term for a stock car). Teams in F1 have had incredible success with these pieces. I am by no means trying to compare the technology/applications of an open wheel F1 car to a full fendered stock car. Hell, maybe I am. Part of the success that F1 has had with these is increased downforce, which would help with lift, would it not? I have heard of some of the better funded CCR teams experimenting with belly pans, and even Nascrap to a lesser extent in the past. I would think increased downforce would help these cars with lift at races like this. Maybe nascar designs a piece and issues them to all of the teams for Daytona and Dega. I hear alot of people bitching about the issue on other websites with no real solutions. I think a rules change regarding the double line maybe on the final lap only, along with better fences and a change to the car would do the trick......maybe with increased downforce from a piece like I talked about, they could put a less restrictive restrictor plate on the cars. Just a thought.

[Ryan_P]

THe back wheels have lifted off of the ground on the new car, but never the entire car. Looking at the replay on Sunday, Newmans car hitting him is what caused the car to launch like it did. With out Newman being there, the car would have hit the wall and that would have been the end of it IMO

100% correct. I watched it numerous times in slo-mo, and some analysts have said the same thing; the car was on its way back down until Newman hit him, changing its trajectory and launching the car in the air. Without Newman hitting the car, Carl would've slammed into the wall. You can't account for every variable, especially one like this. However, this is an awakening in the sport. Maybe they need to add an additional 5' of fencing to the front stretch, especially coming to the S/F line. Another couple feet in the air and we would be mourning people lives.

I wouldn't doubt that we see an even smaller restrictor plate come Daytona.

[RGFan]

100% correct. I watched it numerous times in slo-mo, and some analysts have said the same thing; the car was on its way back down until Newman hit him, changing its trajectory and launching the car in the air. Without Newman hitting the car, Carl would've slammed into the wall. You can't account for every variable, especially one like this. However, this is an awakening in the sport. Maybe they need to add an additional 5' of fencing to the front stretch, especially coming to the S/F line. Another couple feet in the air and we would be mourning people lives.

I wouldn't doubt that we see an even smaller restrictor plate come Daytona.

A smaller restrictor plate was the first thing I thought of after the race........Wrong approach IMO......They need to reverse engineer their way out of the restrictor plate IMO. Start looking at the car and ways to keep it on the ground.......More downforce, increase drag to keep the speeds down, maybe put a lower rev chip in so a certian line speed wise is never crossed......Time to break these guys up a little.

[VentureCrew35]

A smaller restrictor plate was the first thing I thought of after the race........Wrong approach IMO......They need to reverse engineer their way out of the restrictor plate IMO. Start looking at the car and ways to keep it on the ground.......More downforce, increase drag to keep the speeds down, maybe put a lower rev chip in so a certian line speed wise is never crossed......Time to break these guys up a little.

One suggestion I read yesterday was to run V6 motors at Dega and Daytona instead of the current V8s. I thought that was an interesting idea.

[b-makk]

Replace the yellow line with nail strips

[woundedyak]

Open up the restrictor plates and plow the banking in the turns. It will separate the cars and tone down the speeds

[Ryan_P]

Open up the restrictor plates and plow the banking in the turns. It will separate the cars and tone down the speeds

a.k.a. Pocono! Which has become a bore-fest since its repavement, IMO.

[Samco Fab]

They definitely need to step up the catch fence program. A bunch of dead and wounded spectators would be bad on many many levels.

The race is only fun to watch for the last 20 laps, why not make a bunch of Budwiser shootouts all linked together with the best average finish over 6 races wins. Nobody pushes to the front for more than one lap (5 bonus points) untill the end.

They could also do a random inversion every once in a while, to keep it interesting.

[michael_loomis]

I dunno.. I kinda like watching the Super Speedways as much as the short track stuff. I agree with better fencing, or maybe a second fence, But I dont think they need to change the cars. Carl getting tossed was a freak thing. Its possible to happen again, but not likely.

[9Iron]

One suggestion I read yesterday was to run V6 motors at Dega and Daytona instead of the current V8s. I thought that was an interesting idea.

Why not just go to a smaller V8.
A 6 would sound off the wall....
How do they slow down the trucks?
seems to work, yeah?

[HardCharger81]

It's been said on other forums, and I think it's been said on here.

Ditch the plates, and put wider tires on the cars so they handle better.

[Offspring]

They ran V6's in the busch series for years. I think they stopped around '94-95 ish. IMO those were some bad you-know-what cars with higher compression. I owned a Buick Grand National for years so I was partial to those old busch cars. Buddy Ingersol ran some bad drag cars with T-turbo buicks, over 200 mph in sportsman class. Pro Stock didn't want him anywhere near the other factory teams...lol.

[Hemp]

after watching the video in slow-mo I agree that Edwards wouldnt have gotten nearly as high as he did and he was probably starting his way back down until Newman hit him.

One interesting thing was that his car was so turned around the the spoiler acted like an airplane wing lifting the rear in the air

I would love to see some more recent technology in nascar, instead of this constant perfection of 1970's era technology.

[michael_loomis]

dont forget.. new engines for plate races = big money!

I mean new engines on top of the plate motors they already have built..

[kaw500]

Kind of disappointed in CE after seeing all the post race interviews, I thing I lost some respect for him.
I think I would have rather seen him headed towords the injured as apposed to running across the finish line.