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[NicksTrix]

So who's it going to be?
17, 24, 14, 18, 48 all ran strong last weekend. can they do it again?

[9Iron]

So who's it going to be?
17, 24, 14, 18, 48 all ran strong last weekend. can they do it again?

maybe the 39?

[RojoOjoRacin]

I'm all about the #17 team....
SO I say Matt Kenseth for the win... Or any team but 48 & 24 will do

[Racer21(Roberto)]

Stewart or Newman. Both of them were very strong in the all-star race.

This race is mostly about equipment/tuning, and Hendrick and Stewart-haas are the best at that in my opinion.

[RGFan]

Stewart or Newman. Both of them were very strong in the all-star race.

This race is mostly about equipment/tuning, and Hendrick and Stewart-haas are the best at that in my opinion.

Stewart-Haas Racing = Hendrick North

[Ryan_P]

Stewart-Haas Racing = Hendrick North

Hendrick engines and chassis', ex-Hendrick engineers as Crew Chiefs, access to Hendrick data = Hendrick 2

Don't get me wrong, Stewart-Haas is leaps and bounds better than last year, but look at what why that is. Proof is in the pudding. Plus, ole' Rick doesn't mind giving Tony the best equipment because just as it showed, the first person he thanked was Rick and Hendrick Motorsports after the All-Star win. Plus, he was handed a phone before he got out of the car at was talking to Rick!

Regardless, I'm gonna go with the 48 for the win.

[NicksTrix]

yates racing= roush east. same engines, same chassis,same engineering, former roush crew chief... still can't get the job done. this also comes very much down to the guy holding the wheel and pushing the pedal to the right.
obviously tony & ryan can get up on the wheel and drive a smart race and it shows.
it takes a total package to be successful at this level of the game.

[RGFan]

yates racing= roush east. same engines, same chassis,same engineering, former roush crew chief... still can't get the job done. this also comes very much down to the guy holding the wheel and pushing the pedal to the right.
obviously tony & ryan can get up on the wheel and drive a smart race and it shows.
it takes a total package to be successful at this level of the game.

True, but the Roush satelite programs have never had real success, compared to Roush. RG has called out Jack in the past and said the only team Roush would share all of his info with is his own team and the results reflect that. Bobby Labonte is a former Cup Champion, no slouch by any stretch. While driver talent does play a legit role, If you are going to be a sattelite team of a Mega team, you need a Mega team that is willing to truly help you. From the results, it looks like Hendrick is willing to do so and Roush is not. Gibbs was the same way as Roush.

With that being said, I am sure Hendrick Motorpsorts recieved some kind nudging from GM since GM has a vested interest in TS having success. I am sure a Roush Satelite team would have similar success if Ford was serious about that team being a true contender.

[NicksTrix]

RGF- there is so much that goes on behind closed doors that play into these things none of us know about.
from personality conflicts, egos- (driver, crew chief, engineers), power struggles and so on.

why would jack share his info with RG? there is bad blood there. sure he was using a engine out of his shop that year, but that was a ford deal, not his. that was never a A tier program to start with. RGM didn't have a roush chassis or body so what would it to do for him?

roush is sharing info with yates, he's got a vested interest in that deal for reasons easy enough to see. labonte is an ok driver, but really hasn't done anything in years. now paul,that is just another story..

look at the 26 car. all the same parts as the rest. still can't do it, 88 same way over at hms.

anyone catch nascars driver ratings for this week?

[bajafox]

It's not nearly as short as the last race and if they decide to go 3 wide again, some good cars may get caught and out. I'm gonna look for the 48, 17, 18 and 14 to run strong all day

[RGFan]

RGF- there is so much that goes on behind closed doors that play into these things none of us know about.
from personality conflicts, egos- (driver, crew chief, engineers), power struggles and so on.

why would jack share his info with RG? there is bad blood there. sure he was using a engine out of his shop that year, but that was a ford deal, not his. that was never a A tier program to start with. RGM didn't have a roush chassis or body so what would it to do for him?

roush is sharing info with yates, he's got a vested interest in that deal for reasons easy enough to see. labonte is an ok driver, but really hasn't done anything in years. now paul,that is just another story..

look at the 26 car. all the same parts as the rest. still can't do it, 88 same way over at hms.

anyone catch nascars driver ratings for this week?

All valid points, but can you name a single Roush Satelite program that has ever had any success? Roush had no reason to share with RG but it was discussed at some point (RGM and Roush doing some kind of program together) and RG stated that it would never work because of how Jack was with info sharing, it was all one way.

The chemistry is especialy huge, obviously Roush and Hendrick are acutely aware of that. And Roush seems to have little issue with finding it for his own teams, yet struggles heavily with his satelite team......Do you really think that is mere coincidence? Hendrick, on the other hand seems to have little issue with it, he was able to help Tony put a championship caliber team together right out of the box, chemistry out of the box. Jimmie said it best on TV the other day, there has always beena commitment to Haas Racing in the past, but there has definetely been an increase level of commitment with Tony coming over.

When these guys want something to succeed, it generally happens. There are exceptions to every rule though and the 26 and 88 are that IMO. The 26's issues seem to be driver related, while the 88's issues seem to be chemistry between the driver and CC. When Jr had Tony Sr on the box, these issues were non existent.

[NicksTrix]

RGF, the only roush sat team i can think of in the past is woods bros. they haven't been competive in years for numerous reason anyhow so it's hard to count that.
HMS has supported a few that never did much- MB2, Diamond Ridge.
one thing with haas is that hms gets cnc machines from them as well as money from selling services. rick & gene have a long relationship. yet since they stated haas racing they never really hit a lick until this year and had support. now hms brings in some staff , some real drivers holding the wheels...
it is what it is... ;)
qualifying coming up..

[RGFan]

RGF, the only roush sat team i can think of in the past is woods bros. they haven't been competive in years for numerous reason anyhow so it's hard to count that.
HMS has supported a few that never did much- MB2, Diamond Ridge.
one thing with haas is that hms gets cnc machines from them as well as money from selling services. rick & gene have a long relationship. yet since they stated haas racing they never really hit a lick until this year and had support. now hms brings in some staff , some real drivers holding the wheels...
it is what it is... ;)
qualifying coming up..

No disrespect intended NT, always valued your input.

[DanDan]

RG is going to start in the back of the pack again.

[RGFan]

RG is going to start in the back of the pack again.

Oh, don't say that........The peeps over at RG's website will grill you for being real. They will give you every excuse in the book for what the end result has been week in and week out.......CRAP!:D

[DanDan]

Oh, don't say that........The peeps over at RG's website will grill you for being real. They will give you every excuse in the book for what the end result has been week in and week out.......CRAP!:D

I was wrong. 37th. :D I am hoping he can move up a bit from there.

[NicksTrix]

No disrespect intended NT, always valued your input.


none taken RGF, it's all good.

some guys where on the gas qualifying tonight and got it in the show. some will race just as fast to the back...
some will just ride around in the back as usual... hmm who could that be? ;)

[RGFan]

none taken RGF, it's all good.

some guys where on the gas qualifying tonight and got it in the show. some will race just as fast to the back...
some will just ride around in the back as usual... hmm who could that be? ;)

Like I have said since he started this venture for a second time........One of the largest wastes of driver talent in the history of Nascrap. And he does it by choice. That is what drives me crazy

[RojoOjoRacin]

Look out #17 starting 30th... He is always strong when he qualifies towards the back

[m80ondirt]

The 600 will be won by......
Greg Biffle.

[DanDan]

RG is getting in some good practice. He brushed the wall. :rolleyes:

[kaw500]

The 600 will be won by......
Greg Biffle.

Biffy will strong

I'm going to a concert tomorrow afternoon, oh well I'll catch Indy

[manicmechanic]

I like that there are so many west coast drivers in the top ten starting positions.
K.bush, Vegas
J. Gordon, vallejo
J. Johnson, The box
K, Kahne, Enumclaw,Wa
M. Bliss, Portland
I wish em all luck, But its cool to see Bill Elliot hauling again!!!!

[Racer21(Roberto)]

i think they inverted the field, or im going crazy, or this is a dream, but it's lap 74, and it's in the rain delay, and Robby Gordon is in first.....

there has to be some exception or something.

if its not. that would be AWESOME. hope he can compete.

[manicmechanic]

Robby must have pulled a fast one before the flag fell for the rain, or are they running this race in clockwise rotation?. Im shure he didnt intend to bring the 55 along.

[harleys dad]

I could not believe when I turned the tv on and RGordon was number 1 durring the rain delay. Nothing at all has been said about him being in the lead, go figure

[harleys dad]

Only RG could go from 1st to 39th without the green flag being waved. I knew it was to good to be true. He is back in his comfort zone again---LAST

[Racer21(Roberto)]

yep.

oh well. hes faster than all of the other cars back near him. im guessing he's gonna get around 20th hopefully.

[manicmechanic]

With most of the field running over 170 and a few topping 175, it should be interesting to see what happens after the cool off. Maybe a veteran will dominate!

[kaw500]

And lonest race goes on and on and on. JPM looks good running high, little E? oh how the mighty have fallen.
RG gained 5 points for not pitting prior to the red. Race stopped at noon for a moment to remember our troops, nice!

RG 26th as rain starts to fall again, lap 171 no way this one goes the entire 400 laps

[kaw500]

Made it to lap 200, how many more will they get in?

[kaw500]

Rain again lap 224, RG stays out under this yellow for third.
Either way it can't hurt if they call it great if not he pits and goes back to about 25th and stays on the lead lap.

[VentureCrew35]

Waking up with the BK King in my face has to be one of the scariest things I can think of.

[manicmechanic]

Rubs, when the green falls, go past Newman and broom Reutimann. Then my day will be complete.

[Racer21(Roberto)]

I think RG has 3rd. good for points. hopefully he can get into the top 30 in points, especially with Infineon coming up.

[kaw500]

I think RG has 3rd. good for points. hopefully he can get into the top 30 in points, especially with Infineon coming up.

He's aways from breaking the top 30 but solidly inside the 35.
Somehow someway RGM continues on to fight another day.
Bring on the road course:D:D:D

[DanDan]

RG podiums at a nascar oval race. :eek: Are people ice skating in hades?

[DEZERTSUB]

RG podiums at a nascar oval race. :eek: Are people ice skating in hades?

Seriously!!!

Good for him!!!!

[kaw500]

And so it ends, top five for RGM, go figure.

[JRod]

Good for RG.... terrible for my Fantasy team..... LMAO!

[bajafox]

Not the best way to get a 3rd place but he needed it bad

[Tristar Racing]

Not the best way to get a 3rd place but he needed it bad

It was decent, until the car failed post race tech...

Who knows what the penatly will be this time.

[AllwaysRcn]

It was decent, until the car failed post race tech...

Who knows what the penatly will be this time.



From Nascar.c o m

• Robby Gordon's third was his best finish since he ran second at Watkins Glen International in 2005. But in post-race inspection, NASCAR discovered a rear-axle issue with the No. 7, according to NASCAR spokesman Kerry Tharp, who added: "We will take the part back to the R&D Center for further evaluation and keep you posted on how it goes."

[kaw500]

one step forward three steps back

[spalind]

Not the best way to get a 3rd place but he needed it bad

Goodness, gracias....does it ever end???

[Mot51560]

S-15 ???

[RGFan]

S-15 ???

Ha ha ha ha!!!! Fricken Robby........Man he makes it hard for us fans to root for him when he sucks all of the time at Cup........ANd when he finally has a little luck and is able to steel one, they screw it all up and make their own bad luck.

[01_el_tiburon]

what s-15 ????

[Tristar Racing]

what s-15 ????

Robbys "secret weapon" as described here last year; it was nothing more than a bit of humor...

[Racer21(Roberto)]

oh no, S-15's real.... I hear....
maybe...
nooo....

But on facebook, there is a girl that works for RGM, and she said she got a call from NASCAR asking when they can pick up the part. so, no penalties. assuming that NASCAR would need the part as evidence to penalize him.

[NicksTrix]

the s-15 version 4.0 is no laughing matter ;)


any bets out there on the penalty?
do i hear 50K, 50 points? going once, going twice...

[Dezert Edge Racing]

It was very cool to see Nascar stop the race on Memorial Day. Thanks Vets!!!!



NICK

[michael_loomis]

s-15 ???


robbys "secret weapon" as described here last year; it was nothing more than a bit of humor...

orly?

[RGFan]

the s-15 version 4.0 is no laughing matter ;)


any bets out there on the penalty?
do i hear 50K, 50 points? going once, going twice...

IF it was anybody else, maybe. It being RG, they will probably double it.:D RG needs to do with John Darby what Gene Haas did with Tony Stewart. Offer him half ownership, but instead of driving for the team, John can just advocate on behalf of RG and get these penalties to disappear.

[HDRA1]

did everyone see the interview that robby did on track side live when they were asking about baja and dakar he flat out said it takes alot more to be prepared for the desert than it does her in nascar so with johnny keiser working for him in NC i am betting they are pushing the rules as far as he can and nascar is not used to seeing some of the things johnny builds cause i know that he can out build 95% of the fab guys in nascar
so i am sure they have not had a chance to look at any of robby's cars in a long while so it most likely caught them off balance i remember the whole shock deal a few years back now you can only run a manufactured shock set up just .02 cents

[KylesDad]

From Jayski

Robby penalized for rear axle: NASCAR has issued penalties to the #7 team that competes in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series as a result of rules violations committed at Lowe’s Motor Speedway earlier this week. The #7 car, driven and owned by Robby Gordon, was found to be in violation of Sections 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing); 12-4I (any determination by NASCAR Officials that the race equipment used in the event does not conform to NASCAR rules); and 20-10.6H (rear axle housing exceeded the maximum specified toe of plus or minus one degree) of the 2009 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Rule Book. The violation was found during post-race inspection on May 25. As a result, Gordon has been penalized with the loss of 50 championship owner and 50 championship driver points. Crew chief Kirk Almquist has been fined $50,000 and placed on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31.(NASCAR PR)(5-27-2009

[kaw500]

That's about 100 points less than I thought they would fine.
RGM still in 34th less than 150 points out of 30th.

I think he will remain a top 35 all year but it sucks to root for a car to finish just good enough to stay in that 35.

[RGFan]

Could have been worse, but then again, if he was driving for a contender, he would not have to cheat in the first place. Just another black eye for RGM.

[Mumzy]

That is NASCAR's way of telling them...."nice one, but don't ever show up at the track again with that!"

I think they are really looking to even the playing field. Some ideas may be innovative, but if you are the only one balzy enough to step out of the box, NASCAR will come along and slam the lid shut. Teams like Gordon are looking for any type of competitive advantage, unfortunately big brother would like to see that be through more cars in the stable, not through technology that didn't come from the "tech center".