RG cheatin again????

[nimrod]

Seriously?????

He gets a third in neckcar when half the field pits but he stays out AND THEN due to his surprisingly good finish he gets sent to tech inspection.........His crew chief gets fined and suspended for cheating........

This happens on the tail coats of using "creative lines" at the 250........

What can we expect at the 500........Any guesses???????

[TreyP]

Oh Boy! Nimrod stirring the pot. Popcorn time......:D

[troyharper]

check 2 to valle T, thru town to check 3
skip the beach section by using the hwy to rm 357
then thru ck.4 to finish line for an uncontested OA!

[motoman29]

dang it, that was my line! :D

[Rory]

Funny, I tought it was "Fishood"'s line :D. Anyways, who doesn't cheat in NASCAR? Robby's guys just don't know how to hide it as well as the rest of the rednecks!

[mattb]

Lame post. Every team cheats in Nascar and I'm pretty sure everyone's wandered from the course. Let it go.

[michael_loomis]

Seriously?????

He gets a third in neckcar when half the field pits but he stays out AND THEN due to his surprisingly good finish he gets sent to tech inspection.........His crew chief gets fined and suspended for cheating........

This happens on the tail coats of using "creative lines" at the 250........

What can we expect at the 500........Any guesses???????

Actually, the top 3 cars got pulled for inspection. Nothing new there... just like the creative use of the rear end..

If you wanna see video of some cheaters in action, check out the vid at the end of the Lemons's update thread over in the Pavement section. :D

[richard cretsinger]

why? was his engine a "C" hair over the limit? Robby cant catch a break in no right turns for anything, being at the back of the pack always makes him a prime target for when the field decides to destroy itself anyways. maybe he should just give up, save all that money for something else, wish he would come on here and defend himself sometimes, but maybe hes above all that. bunch of bull and who cares, its not like hes ever going to be in the chase.

[Jerry B]

Ha Ha
He got nailed on 3 things. To bad SAL can not do a little sweeping under the rug in neckcar

NASCAR has issued penalties to the No. 7 team that competes in the Sprint Cup Series as a result of rules violations committed at Lowe's Motor Speedway on Monday.
Robby.Gordon.100.jpg
Gordon

The No. 7 car, driven and owned by Robby Gordon, was found to be in violation of Sections 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing); 12-4I (any determination by NASCAR officials that the race equipment used in the event does not conform to NASCAR rules); and 20-10.6H (rear axle housing exceeded the maximum specified toe of plus or minus one degree) of the 2009 Sprint Cup Series rule book. The violation was found during post-race inspection on May 25.

Specifically, the rear axle housing exceeded the allowable toe of plus or minus one degree. In layman's terms, the axle was canted too far to the right, which can facilitate corner entry and improve a car's ability to turn through the corner.

As a result, Gordon has been penalized with the loss of 50 championship owner and 50 championship driver points. Crew chief Kirk Almquist has been fined $50,000 and placed on probation until Dec. 31.

http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/headlines/cup/05/27/rgordon.lowes.punishment/index.html

[shooei]

His motto was "win or break" now its "break or cheat":eek:

[Offspring]

maybe he should just give up, save all that money for something else,

It's why he does everything else, it pays the bills.

[Cadwell]

Nascar is too much like the Iroc series now! I was big time into nascar but ever since dale's death I started hating it more with all the rules they have now! So what if his toe was a little off. I thought NASCAR was about who can setup there cars best for the race. These COT suck and Nascar needs to just relax the rules and just let the teams setup their cars the way they want. Hell I remember back in the day where you could have your back wing at different angles for more speed or setup for cornering, now they all have to have the same degree same toe everything the same on every car! BTW if anybody wants some old Nascar diecast let me know!

[C Robinson]

"dont hate him cuz you aint him" i think is how the saying goes... as far as predictions.. his car will hold up and he"ll dominate. just my opinion

[michael_loomis]

"dont hate him cuz you aint him" i think is how the saying goes... as far as predictions.. his car will hold up and he"ll dominate. just my opinion

Dominate in what? Cup? Now thats funny right there!!

Huge RG fan (on the track) but seriously... he is never going to dominate going around in circles! (literally)

[C Robinson]

Dominate in what? Cup? Now thats funny right there!!

Huge RG fan (on the track) but seriously... he is never going to dominate going around in circles! (literally)

umm if you would of read the first post he asks for any guesses on how robby will do in the 500 so when i say he will win i am refering to the baja 500, im not a robby fan, but i still think he will take the 500. Now about Cup racing, In all honesty i doubt he'll dominate a circle race.. maybe a road course

[michael_loomis]

umm if you would of read the first post he asks for any guesses on how robby will do in the 500 so when i say he will win i am refering to the baja 500, im not a robby fan, but i still think he will take the 500. Now about Cup racing, In all honesty i doubt he'll dominate a circle race.. maybe a road course

I thought since the thread was about cheating.. it was will he cheat or not at the 500?? lol ... My bad!

I'm so torn... I want the 7 AND the 8 to win!! LOL

[mark@PhotoAhead]

My favorite Nascar cheat story

"NASCAR inspectors removed the gas tank from Smokey Yunick's car before watching him drive off without it."

[Wendell #527]

Nascar as a company does not like RG. Robby is only there to make money to support his offroad racing. His mistake happened a couple years ago when he publicly said just that. That is a slap in the face of Nascar, and whenever they can, RG gets the shaft by Nascar. Inspections happen all the time, but what's lame is the degree of penalty RG always gets for any minor infraction versus what other drivers would get. It's kind of like the Raiders when Al Davis sued the NFL. And now Al wonders why the refs, who are employed by the NFL, are always bias against the Raiders? The lesson is don't sue or slap the sanctioning body when they make/enforce the rules you have to play by.

[ScottyA]

All those rules make it easier for them to let there chosen few to slide through tech. The chosen few being the ones that market well and make Ascar a lot of money.

[Baja Fool]

Don't hate the player......hate the game.

[offroadracer516]

Never liked Nascar except for the road course tracks
driving in a circle over and over and over...Lame
ill stick with with roots :)

[Random Thoughts Racing]

Seriously?????

What can we expect at the 500........Any guesses???????

I predict suspension and body panels with a super slick "anti protest" coating.;)

[outlaws1000]

Nascar as a company does not like RG. Robby is only there to make money to support his offroad racing. His mistake happened a couple years ago when he publicly said just that. That is a slap in the face of Nascar, and whenever they can, RG gets the shaft by Nascar. Inspections happen all the time, but what's lame is the degree of penalty RG always gets for any minor infraction versus what other drivers would get. It's kind of like the Raiders when Al Davis sued the NFL. And now Al wonders why the refs, who are employed by the NFL, are always bias against the Raiders? The lesson is don't sue or slap the sanctioning body when they make/enforce the rules you have to play by.


WHAT????

[randy68]

Don't hate the player......hate the game.

So true right there! nascar has become a joke, although
I still enjoy it. (SOOOO mucho better than that round ball
crap!)

[Racbaja]

Why would you even start a post like this idiot? Moderators please close this post as it serves no purpose.

Ron Plunkett
Plunkett Racing 557

[J Prich]

I'm not a NASCAR fan and don't follow the sport but it seems to be it's probably more expensive to run a season of NASCAR then a handful of desert races? Why on earth would a guy spend millions or whatever to run a season of Nascar so he could make a few thousand to spend on his desert racing?

I'm admittedly not good at math so maybe there's something I'm missing.

[nimrod]

Why would you even start a post like this idiot? Moderators please close this post as it serves no purpose.

Ron Plunkett
Plunkett Racing 557

I guess you missed it.......The name is Nimrod not idiot..........:eek:

[randy68]

I guess you missed it.......The name is Nimrod not idiot..........:eek:

Damn near spit my beer on the keyboard!!:D

[bajabird]

Damn near spit my beer on the keyboard!!:D

Hehe, I did!

[trent06]

Obviously I am not a brilliant, but I think it is simple for why he runs/races in Nascar. Even if he finishes 43rd in every race throughout the year finishing in 43rd in one race, will earn him more money then competing all year long in Desert Racing. It isnt about what he gets paid by Nascar for winning or finishing where ever, but rather where his/the money is made is in the endorsements he has with companies to run their logo's. His endorsements/sponsorships is what pays for him to run all his other motorsports programs, not nessesarily how he finishes a given race in Nascar They want advertisement and it is much easy to pick up multi huge sponsors when you offer them National or World coverage (I.E. Dakar) then just small coverage here, there, and elsewhere. Even if he consistently finishes 30th place in Nascar he is still getting much better sponsorship coverage then winning first place in an off-road race. Sponsors pay to be on the side of his Dakar vehicles/Nascar, his off-road habit is just an added bonus.

P.S. He is obviously doing something right to continue funding and expanding all his racing efforts. Whether it is adding another vehicle to his Dakar team, running an entire desert racing series, or what most of us probably dont see or think of, the extra testing weekends at different Nascar tracks and all the different behind the scenes things with his Nascar program, just because his results arent showing they are making changes adding things etc doesnt mean it isnt happening.

Just my 2 cents...Take it for what it is worth, 2 cents...:rolleyes:

Here is two interesting links about Nascar and their payout system and Endorsments.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-racing/nascar/nascar-basics/nascar-prize-money.htm/printable
http://blogs.payscale.com/ask_dr_salary/2007/04/nascar_drivers_.html

Not sure the validity of the websites, but pretty interesting...

[randy68]

Obviously I am not a brilliant, but I think it is simple for why he runs/races in Nascar. Even if he finishes 43rd in every race throughout the year finishing in 43rd in one race, will earn him more money then competing all year long in Desert Racing. It isnt about what he gets paid by Nascar for winning or finishing where ever, but rather where his/the money is made is in the endorsements he has with companies to run their logo's. His endorsements/sponsorships is what pays for him to run all his other motorsports programs, not nessesarily how he finishes a given race in Nascar They want advertisement and it is much easy to pick up multi huge sponsors when you offer them National or World coverage (I.E. Dakar) then just small coverage here, there, and elsewhere. Even if he consistently finishes 30th place in Nascar he is still getting much better sponsorship coverage then winning first place in an off-road race. Sponsors pay to be on the side of his Dakar vehicles/Nascar, his off-road habit is just an added bonus.

P.S. He is obviously doing something right to continue funding and expanding all his racing efforts. Whether it is adding another vehicle to his Dakar team, running an entire desert racing series, or what most of us probably dont see or think of, the extra testing weekends at different Nascar tracks and all the different behind the scenes things with his Nascar program, just because his results arent showing they are making changes adding things etc doesnt mean it isnt happening.

Just my 2 cents...Take it for what it is worth, 2 cents...:rolleyes:

Here is two interesting links about Nascar and their payout system and Endorsments.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-racing/nascar/nascar-basics/nascar-prize-money.htm/printable
http://blogs.payscale.com/ask_dr_salary/2007/04/nascar_drivers_.html

Not sure the validity of the websites, but pretty interesting...

Hit the nail on the head, kid!
And, just for kicks and giggles, try and name more than a couple
of racers that get to race as much as he does.........He's livin his dream!
My hats off to him....

my $.02 werth!

[michael_loomis]

Wow Plunkett, a lil over the top with that one!

Dont trip Nimrod.. Your rubber he's glue.... Lol

[EMS702]

So far today on NASCAR.com and speed network as well as ESPN i saw RG's sponsors at least 6 times. Saw Jr's as well but his sponsors were shown. So even bad news gets his sponsors some airtime.

[western1665]

Robby may cheat in nascar but he still always gets last..... i dont get it

[xjchaser]

Robby may cheat in nascar but he still always gets last..... i dont get it

Let's see he's 33rd in the points and earned $1,480,000 so far this season I think I get it :eek:

[Offspring]

I'm not a NASCAR fan and don't follow the sport but it seems to be it's probably more expensive to run a season of NASCAR then a handful of desert races? Why on earth would a guy spend millions or whatever to run a season of Nascar so he could make a few thousand to spend on his desert racing?

I'm admittedly not good at math so maybe there's something I'm missing.

Very basic, it ain't his millions to begin with, and secondly do you really think he only spends a few thousand on his dezert programs? Yep you're missing something.

[nimrod]

I have a lot of respect for what he has accomplished in racing.

It does bug me though when I see an interview with him in which he states that whenever he shows up in the desert he owns all those clowns........

I don't mind being a Nimrod or even an idiot but I draw the line at clown......That's a whole different union and if the idiots and nimrods international union finds out I've been 2 timing then I might lose my whole dang pension in the INIU local 12

[TreyP]

Just because it hasn't been asked or said yet........




















Who's Robby Gordon?:cool::D

[J Prich]

Very basic, it ain't his millions to begin with, and secondly do you really think he only spends a few thousand on his dezert programs? Yep you're missing something.

For the record, I didn't suggest that he only spends a few thousand on his dezert programs. I was referencing the amount of money he makes via Nascar/sponsorships etc that he's able to apply to the dezert programs. Running the Nascar team can't be cheap and I'm sure it costs a lot of his money to fund that. Spending a lot of money to make a little money doesn't make sense.

I don't underestimate the value of sponsorships and I don't claim to know his finances and how it all works out, but I don't believe that he's the sort of guy that "only" races Nascar in order to fund his desert habit.

[13stout]

Just because it hasn't been asked or said yet........




















Who's Robby Gordon?:cool::D

The guy that might beat me at the Baja 500 ............ :eek: one week away....

[13stout]

Obviously I am not a brilliant, but I think it is simple for why he runs/races in Nascar. Even if he finishes 43rd in every race throughout the year finishing in 43rd in one race, will earn him more money then competing all year long in Desert Racing. It isnt about what he gets paid by Nascar for winning or finishing where ever, but rather where his/the money is made is in the endorsements he has with companies to run their logo's. His endorsements/sponsorships is what pays for him to run all his other motorsports programs, not nessesarily how he finishes a given race in Nascar They want advertisement and it is much easy to pick up multi huge sponsors when you offer them National or World coverage (I.E. Dakar) then just small coverage here, there, and elsewhere. Even if he consistently finishes 30th place in Nascar he is still getting much better sponsorship coverage then winning first place in an off-road race. Sponsors pay to be on the side of his Dakar vehicles/Nascar, his off-road habit is just an added bonus.

P.S. He is obviously doing something right to continue funding and expanding all his racing efforts. Whether it is adding another vehicle to his Dakar team, running an entire desert racing series, or what most of us probably dont see or think of, the extra testing weekends at different Nascar tracks and all the different behind the scenes things with his Nascar program, just because his results arent showing they are making changes adding things etc doesnt mean it isnt happening.

Just my 2 cents...Take it for what it is worth, 2 cents...:rolleyes:

Here is two interesting links about Nascar and their payout system and Endorsments.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-racing/nascar/nascar-basics/nascar-prize-money.htm/printable
http://blogs.payscale.com/ask_dr_salary/2007/04/nascar_drivers_.html

Not sure the validity of the websites, but pretty interesting...

nailed it ....... and way cant people be happy for R.G. he's not a bad guy and he builds great race trucks.
he also is great for our sport...........

[TreyP]

The guy that might beat me at the Baja 500 ............ :eek: one week away....

I have your back in Baja Clyde. We'll be in Punta Cabras and will support any racer. It's the DA way.;)

[kats]

http://shhac.info/x/b/nascar.jpg

[sidekicker]

http://shhac.info/x/b/nascar.jpg

wow big crash pic

[deano]

Obviously I am not a brilliant, but I think it is simple for why he runs/races in Nascar. Even if he finishes 43rd in every race throughout the year finishing in 43rd in one race, will earn him more money then competing all year long in Desert Racing. It isnt about what he gets paid by Nascar for winning or finishing where ever, but rather where his/the money is made is in the endorsements he has with companies to run their logo's. His endorsements/sponsorships is what pays for him to run all his other motorsports programs, not nessesarily how he finishes a given race in Nascar They want advertisement and it is much easy to pick up multi huge sponsors when you offer them National or World coverage (I.E. Dakar) then just small coverage here, there, and elsewhere. Even if he consistently finishes 30th place in Nascar he is still getting much better sponsorship coverage then winning first place in an off-road race. Sponsors pay to be on the side of his Dakar vehicles/Nascar, his off-road habit is just an added bonus.

P.S. He is obviously doing something right to continue funding and expanding all his racing efforts. Whether it is adding another vehicle to his Dakar team, running an entire desert racing series, or what most of us probably dont see or think of, the extra testing weekends at different Nascar tracks and all the different behind the scenes things with his Nascar program, just because his results arent showing they are making changes adding things etc doesnt mean it isnt happening.

Just my 2 cents...Take it for what it is worth, 2 cents...:rolleyes:

Here is two interesting links about Nascar and their payout system and Endorsments.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-racing/nascar/nascar-basics/nascar-prize-money.htm/printable
http://blogs.payscale.com/ask_dr_salary/2007/04/nascar_drivers_.html

Not sure the validity of the websites, but pretty interesting...



well the kid from parker is finally learning something up at that fancy college in northern arizona ............ perfect post junior !!!! and the reason robby clowns on the desert racers and says he spanks them every weekend, cause he does ?? when he doesn't break or crash of course :eek: --- it's a confidence thing ..... and the offroad racing world could only hope that RG still races with all of you, to help promote the sport -- you should be also thanking guys like Jesse James, our very own PUB steele and any other big name "draw's" that keep average joe interested ??? :cool:

[j10-401]

Trent06 wins this one and there is no arguing with that. Its once been said "If you aint cheatin you aint tryin", and everyone cheats in nascar. I do watch nascar but that just because there is little to no offroad coverage, and I cant stand to watch sissys who get paid millions of dollars to shoot a ball in a hoop who complain they cant play because of an ingrown toenail. My hats off to RG for an owner/driver who brings the same car to every track he's doin alright, and anyone on this forum including my self can only dream of making money and being succesful driving a racecar everyday.

[Cheater]

Why would you even start a post like this idiot? Moderators please close this post as it serves no purpose.

Ron Plunkett
Plunkett Racing 557

Who's the idiot the guy that has fun on this site and doesnt take it seriously or the guy that gets so worked up with what other people write on here?

[Racbaja]

OK here I go pushing this to the top of the posts again. Did I miss something? Mike comes on here and starts spewing crap about someone who is a legend in Off Road racing, unprovoked I might add. Robby either you like him or you don't but to come on here and push an agenda before the 500 is STUPID. Myself and others would love to live his life and race all year long, he has made it happen and for that hats off to the guy. I am not taking this serious, but talking smack about someone is uncalled for and if you would like to discuss it with him, I am sure you guys could meet up before the 500. Have a nice day.

Ron Plunkett
Plunkett Racing 557

[bajafox]

thread belongs in pavement section for one thing

and knaus is the king of cheaters in NASCAR

[nimrod]

I just put this up cause I was bored and going nuts waiting for the 5 hundy.....I knew it would bring a lot of uhhhhh "Fun Discussion"

I will say it again I have great respect for all that Robby has accomplished........

Luckily I've been running around like a chicken with it's head cut off trying to help the Da get ready for the 500 and haven't had enough time to post even MORE idiotic stuff....

I love racing against the best and it's a privilege to race against Robby and his team........
the more TT's the better and the more big teams the better.........I really wish that people would stop messing with Tavo so he could be at every race and I really wish the McMillin's were down there too........

[rpracing]

everyone seems to talk alot about robby cheating, what about honda #1... they cheat big time every single race, iv seen it with my own eyes tons of times... its even documented in dust to glory... if anyone wants to bash cheaters it should be them

[REEVESRacing]

...

I will say it again I have great respect for all that Robby has accomplished........

Luckily I've been running around like a chicken with it's head cut off trying to help the Da get ready for the 500 and haven't had enough time to post even MORE idiotic stuff....

I love racing against the best and it's a privilege to race against Robby and his team........


Nice...

GL to everywon @ the 5hundy, ;).

[BGRANT]

Does RG's wife know he's cheating?

[michael_loomis]

RG has a wife?? I thought just a gf and child ?

[worcs761]

BGRANT
That is a stupid ars comment. Show some class. You post enough, so show that you have more class then that.

[richard cretsinger]

show some class? get a sense of humor, i laughed when i read bgrant thread--- didnt you? isnt there a door to that box your living in?

[BGRANT]

So much for some comic relief?

[western1665]

Let's see he's 33rd in the points and earned $1,480,000 so far this season I think I get it :eek:

exactly if he is cheating why isnt he higher in points?

[fishd00d]

exactly if he is cheating why isnt he higher in points?

Because everyone else is cheating a little more lol

[Mary Kay]

Does RG's wife know he's cheating?


cheating b@str@rd..............J/K...lol:D

your post was funny!!!

[worcs761]

So much for some comic relief?

Wife or no wife. Public or public forum. Still a stupid comment. May be you all should ask your mother about that one. See if she thinks it is comic relief.
On a better topic. How about that Monster Honda, RG cheater lines into Matomi. I think there great line choices. Now that some high dollar comic relief! ;)

[Mcarlson1]

Robby doesnt make as much money as everyone thinks in nascar although he does make damn good money, he has sponsorship for about half of the races and the other half are out of his own pocket, with 20,000 a weekend just in tires plus employees, transportation etc. its not as much as someone would think on the weekends hes unsponsored especially since hes running around 30th or whatever and the purse money is 90,000 give or take. Just wanted to throw that out there because no one has mentioned it in case some people didnt know. Good luck at the 500 RG!! Now back to our regularly scheduled program.

Thanks,
Mike

[michael_loomis]

Wife or no wife. Public or public forum. Still a stupid comment. May be you all should ask your mother about that one. See if she thinks it is comic relief.
On a better topic. How about that Monster Honda, RG cheater lines into Matomi. I think there great line choices. Now that some high dollar comic relief! ;)

Dude, get over yourself...

The only thing stupid is your attack of an INTERNET play on words...

[TUNDRA1]

Leave it to the DA once again to come up with another Dumb Ass post.....you need a life dude.

[TreyP]

Leave it to the DA once again to come up with another Dumb Ass post.....you need a life dude.

In my best Artie Lange impression...Waaaa! Someone dissed my wet dream hero. Get a life, your heros are just people. Get a grip on reality and maybe have a little fun in life. The thread was a joke. Something that is maybe out of your comprehension.

Sorry for the big words, Google them up and maybe you will understand. Or not.

[jfracerzr]

robby is appealling
so hopefully he gets his points back

[deano]

Leave it to the DA once again to come up with another Dumb Ass post.....you need a life dude.

ya, those dirt alliance dudes are pretty crazy sometimes huh ?? :eek: :cool:

[TUNDRA1]

ya, those dirt alliance dudes are pretty crazy sometimes huh ?? :eek: :cool:

Exactly.... put your foot in your mouth one more time!!! :eek:

[JRod]

ya, those dirt alliance dudes are pretty crazy sometimes huh ?? :eek: :cool:


Exactly.... put your foot in your mouth one more time!!! :eek:

ahhhhhhhhhhh the irony that presents itself on RDC sometimes..... Deano, you should really really really learn what your own title stands for - LMAO!

[kaw500]

Robby doesnt make as much money as everyone thinks in nascar although he does make damn good money, he has sponsorship for about half of the races and the other half are out of his own pocket, with 20,000 a weekend just in tires plus employees, transportation etc. its not as much as someone would think on the weekends hes unsponsored especially since hes running around 30th or whatever and the purse money is 90,000 give or take. Just wanted to throw that out there because no one has mentioned it in case some people didnt know. Good luck at the 500 RG!! Now back to our regularly scheduled program.

Thanks,
Mike

I’m pretty sure RG has had a primary sponsor for each race so far this year (someone correct me if I am wrong); he could not do it on 50%. Last year it was less than five races he funded on his own. Yes, I am a NEKAR fan but I bigger Off Road fanatic so yeah I root for the only current desert driver in cup.

Good Luck to all at the 500.

It has been said many times "If you are not looking to stretch the rules than you’re trying" it will continue to happen especially in cup. I'm saying its right or wrong just the way it is.

[michael_loomis]

Exactly.... put your foot in your mouth one more time!!! :eek:

Man, how do you fit that DA hard-on in those tight pants of yours!?

[BRINGTHERUCKUS]

Man, how do you fit that DA hard-on in those tight pants of yours!?

ZING!!!!!!! this thread is getting good...

[shooei]

After reading the "drifting.com" thread, I admit RG does have some talent.

[nimrod]

RG is waaay fast for sure.........


Well you boys have fun, I'm off to the 5 Hundy. I just gotta get my flatbill on and Iron my tank top and I'm out..........


Tundra man I think if you really knew me you might have a better understanding of who I am and hate me even more.........

[bajaxp]

RG is waaay fast for sure.........


Well you boys have fun, I'm off to the 5 Hundy. I just gotta get my flatbill on and Iron my tank top and I'm out..........


Tundra man I think if you really knew me you might have a better understanding of who I am and hate me even more.........

Nim-rodica:

Don't forget your black socks, puffy shoes and Dickie's man capri pants. You just gotta bolt some white fenders on the Alumicraft short bus. :p Pack extra bug spray and stuff to ward off the swine spoo. :D Have fun!

[pdailey]

RG is waaay fast for sure.........


Well you boys have fun, I'm off to the 5 Hundy. I just gotta get my flatbill on and Iron my tank top and I'm out..........


Tundra man I think if you really knew me you might have a better understanding of who I am and hate me even more.........

HAHAHAHA. See you down there Nimmy. Too funny!!!

[Score 44]

Man, how do you fit that DA hard-on in those tight pants of yours!?

Hey now..............................

[Wendell #527]

Nascar as a company does not like RG. Robby is only there to make money to support his offroad racing. His mistake happened a couple years ago when he publicly said just that. That is a slap in the face of Nascar, and whenever they can, RG gets the shaft by Nascar. Inspections happen all the time, but what's lame is the degree of penalty RG always gets for any minor infraction versus what other drivers would get. It's kind of like the Raiders when Al Davis sued the NFL. And now Al wonders why the refs, who are employed by the NFL, are always bias against the Raiders? The lesson is don't sue or slap the sanctioning body when they make/enforce the rules you have to play by.


WHAT????

If you can't see the similarity then you won't understand anything I tell you.

[outlaws1000]

I understand the similarities, but I don't understand why NASCAR would "hate" a racer that is consistently in the upper 20's or lower 30's. Seems to me we are looking for excuses. NASCAR is too big of a company to worry about a racer using them to fund another hobby.

[Wendell #527]

I understand the similarities, but I don't understand why NASCAR would "hate" a racer that is consistently in the upper 20's or lower 30's. Seems to me we are looking for excuses. NASCAR is too big of a company to worry about a racer using them to fund another hobby.

OK I guess I'll explain it to you then. How would you feel if you were the proud owner of a racing body---like NASCAR. Then one of the guys racing your circuit said he only raced your circuit to fund racing some other circuit. He's saying the other circuit is more important to him. NASCAR thinks they are the most important racing, and they would expect somebody to race elsewhere to fund their NASCAR effort. SCORE is competition to NASCAR. Granted, it's a different type of racing, but it is competition because they are competing for racing airtime and glory. NASCAR thinks they are the most important and they are insulted by RGs comments.

[michael_loomis]

Racing some other circuit to fund NASCAR?? HAHA WAJ.

I can think of one person who could do that. Michael Schumacher. :D

[pdailey]

Racing some other circuit to fund NASCAR?? HAHA WAJ.

I can think of one person who could do that. Michael Schumacher. :D

I think it is the other way around.

[michael_loomis]

OK I guess I'll explain it to you then. How would you feel if you were the proud owner of a racing body---like NASCAR. Then one of the guys racing your circuit said he only raced your circuit to fund racing some other circuit. He's saying the other circuit is more important to him. NASCAR thinks they are the most important racing, and they would expect somebody to race elsewhere to fund their NASCAR effort. SCORE is competition to NASCAR. Granted, it's a different type of racing, but it is competition because they are competing for racing airtime and glory. NASCAR thinks they are the most important and they are insulted by RGs comments.


I think it is the other way around.

How so fine sir?

What other race drivers get paid enough racing there respective series to run a top 35 Cup operation? F1 racers are about the only ones who make enough $$

[Offspring]

Make no mistake, SCORE isn't even on NASCAR's radar let alone competition for them.

[Wendell #527]

Make no mistake, SCORE isn't even on NASCAR's radar let alone competition for them.

My point was that NASCAR is offended by RG saying he's only racing NASCAR to support his SCORE racing. If you have been paying attention, you have seen they penalize him to the max for any small infraction every time they get a chance.

[outlaws1000]

Where did you read that NASCAR is offended by his comments or is that your .02 and that is fine.

[Wendell #527]

I did not read that anywhere, but it seems apparent to me just by the disparity of penalties he gets. The thing about the front end not having the right diminsion on it when he switched makes was really unjust. That part came right from the automaker and it was so insignificant it was no advantage. They slammed him then, too.

[outlaws1000]

Valid point, thanks for the response. I do not watch NASCAR that is why I have a hard time believing that a company as large as NASCAR will go after a person who posses no real threat of ever winning a race. But I guess we all have reasons for disliking someone. He (RG) seems to have a pretty good following in the dirt though.

[07FJRog]

I did not read that anywhere, but it seems apparent to me just by the disparity of penalties he gets. The thing about the front end not having the right diminsion on it when he switched makes was really unjust. That part came right from the automaker and it was so insignificant it was no advantage. They slammed him then, too.

the front end part does not come from the Automaker. I have talked to the Fab guy who makes the front ends for that race team last year and he said it was a different -?? number on it for the current car. the rules still had the older -?? number on it. they won the protest to the Judgement BTW, a while later.

I agree though, it sure does seem they are always out to get Robbie.

this last time was 50 points for both driver and team penalties, then a fine for the crew chief and the CC is on probation until dec 31st. what a bunch of crap IMO.

Eldora, prelude to the dream tonight, who is watching??? Robbie said last year, to watch out this year, he will be coming!

[Tristar Racing]

Nascars penalty could have been much worse than 50 points. They can rule with an iron fist, and do not need to justify any of it. Look at the Carl Long situation. All they need to do is file it under "detrimental to racing" clause in the rule book. I do not agree with their decisions, just saying it could have been worse.

For the record, Nascar gave RGM a gift last year with the nose issue at Daytona. That was the first points appeal that was successful for the COT, possibly ever in modern day Nascar.

[Wendell #527]

the front end part does not come from the Automaker. I have talked to the Fab guy who makes the front ends for that race team last year and he said it was a different -?? number on it for the current car. the rules still had the older -?? number on it. they won the protest to the Judgement BTW, a while later.

I agree though, it sure does seem they are always out to get Robbie.

this last time was 50 points for both driver and team penalties, then a fine for the crew chief and the CC is on probation until dec 31st. what a bunch of crap IMO.

Eldora, prelude to the dream tonight, who is watching??? Robbie said last year, to watch out this year, he will be coming!

I go along with that. I'm getting older now and my memory might have mislead me. You got my point, though. I think there was something about that front end that came from the automaker--maybe it was the diminsions or the look or something coming from the maker that the fab shop had to use. I'm not sure now. whatever--I stand corrected.

[michael_loomis]

That part number was different, but the first 10 or so numbers were the same! it was the dash something at the end that was different... Or so I recall...

I agree, I think they went softer than norm on RG for the rear end.. all the other penalties for toying around with COT parts have been 100.

[nimrod]

Ooops..........not again.......broken record player...........

[michael_loomis]

Now now nimmy!! cant be calling out other drivers when you own driver is just as guilty! :D

[07FJRog]

That part number was different, but the first 10 or so numbers were the same! it was the dash something at the end that was different... Or so I recall...

I agree, I think they went softer than norm on RG for the rear end.. all the other penalties for toying around with COT parts have been 100.

exactly. Did anyone ever find out what was the discrepancy on the rear end penalty?

[Offspring]

The rear end was built out of spec, but it was brought back into spec by adjustments to the truck arms. That is why RG put a lot of emphasis on the fact it measured correctly during all inspections while still on the car. That is why they took it off the car and took it back to HQ, where the unit was measured and found to be out of spec.