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garage_runner81
August 1st, 2009, 19:56
hi.... wondering if anyone knws a could place to get Ti tube... 2-3" dia. its for a friend who wants some special intake work. what grade of Ti tubing would i need? ive looked around the net a lil and most places dnt have tube that big in diameter, and i dnt knw what grade to get and what the differences are... thanks for any help
mikeyfrombc
August 1st, 2009, 20:48
sandvick tubing in wa
ErikShallbetter
August 1st, 2009, 21:47
If you need to do any welding and you are unfamiliar you will want to do some research first.
loufish
August 2nd, 2009, 00:38
Ti is kind of like aluminum in that pure Ti like aluminum is not very strong but very good at corrosion resistance, and picks up strength from alloying....Kind of "gummy" to machine...
Welding it is the tricky part, need a trailing cup minimum....
California MiniTruck
August 3rd, 2009, 16:05
I worked on Titanium on GE F-404 and F-414 in F-18 motors for years. I had to take them apart and fix every thing inside. My experience with it is that it is to frail for automotive stuff that stuff breaks easy. Don't get me wrong this stuff is tuffer than nails(it has a very hard property) I guess depending on what your using it for. What are you trying to build out of Ti tubing?
mpower
August 3rd, 2009, 16:52
you might want to try inconel instead
http://www.burnsstainless.com/InconelTube/inconeltube.html
or call burns and ask , im shure they have a source fo it. i could have sworn they used to carry it about 5 years back
try tube service co , or call mcmasterrcarr and see if they can find it. they carry it up to 1" so im shure they could source it for you , their pertty helpful with trying to find difficult items
Dezertpilot
August 3rd, 2009, 16:56
Inconel is soooooo heavy!!!!!!
garage_runner81
August 3rd, 2009, 16:58
-ya ive been doing some research on welding ti... seems like u gta keep it perfectly clean and use the lowest heat possible...
- a friend of mine wants a intake pipe made for his car.. i already did it out of aluminum but he's changing some things on it.
- i think the tube is about 3"... i havent seen anything that big in Ti so i dunno...
thanks guys
racer56
August 3rd, 2009, 18:32
You will find it on Ebay.
Mike @ pit b
August 3rd, 2009, 22:22
-ya ive been doing some research on welding ti... seems like u gta keep it perfectly clean and use the lowest heat possible...
- a friend of mine wants a intake pipe made for his car.. i already did it out of aluminum but he's changing some things on it.
- i think the tube is about 3"... i havent seen anything that big in Ti so i dunno...
thanks guys
How hot will it be getting in the area of this intake pipe? Ti gets very brittle when it's hot if I remember correctly. If it gets to hot it might end up cracking over time and end up being a problem down the road.
garage_runner81
August 3rd, 2009, 22:57
-ahh.. yes ive heard that. im not sure. its a civic, the one on the new falken tire ad.
- ebay actually seems to be a pretty good source for diff Ti pieces.... thanks
mikeyfrombc
August 4th, 2009, 01:08
ti must have some corrosive and high heat propertys yrs back in did a job for a company that made these laminated SS and Ti plate for some reacture. i know in dragracing TI is used for intake and exhaust valves in alot of application , in turbo set-ups they use Ti intake and Inconel exhaust , same with motor with heavy nitrous use
garage_runner81
August 4th, 2009, 15:01
anyone have pictures of Titanium they've welded or any pics in general? i hate searches.. they never work. bunch of bs
ErikShallbetter
August 4th, 2009, 15:23
Not Titanium welding but some intake work I have done to help inspire you!
Chase 2
August 4th, 2009, 18:38
I've seen jet engine turbine blades made from Ti. You guys realize that there are varying grades/types of Ti just like stainless steel or aluminum....right???
mikeyfrombc
August 4th, 2009, 19:09
not titanium welding but some intake work i have done to help inspire you!
bwaaahhhaaa
loufish
August 4th, 2009, 21:59
I've seen jet engine turbine blades made from Ti. You guys realize that there are varying grades/types of Ti just like stainless steel or aluminum....right???
That's what I was trying to say in my first post...and just like aluminum when you alloy Ti you can get some very high strength Alpha and Beta alloys.
When you're making an exhaust system out of .045" S/Steel and then do the same out if Ti I'm not sure the small weight saving is really worth the cost and hassle...
Was on a team where the driver/owner was so concerned about reducing the weight of the vehicle, we were using aluminum nuts and bolts in non-critical areas and some crazy machining of parts....Finally I flat out told him it was easier for him to lose some of his 60 lbs overweight then for me to continue to go crazy fabbing up wild-ass stuff all night to lighten the car!
DSRacing
August 4th, 2009, 22:23
anyone have pictures of Titanium they've welded or any pics in general? i hate searches.. they never work. bunch of bs
Here are some welds done on Ti bike frames.
garage_runner81
August 5th, 2009, 00:35
-very nice pictures!! love the last one...
- as for that pic of the custom intake! awesome custom work. lol actually a couple friends were thinking the same thing but out of Joose cans.. crazy
- yea there are alot of diff types of Ti... and u need the right filler rod... alot of thinking... lol
mikeyfrombc
August 5th, 2009, 00:42
http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm
talk with this guy i think he will answer all your ???,s on welding he,s done some amazing mountainbike frames and a killer chopper frame
garage_runner81
August 10th, 2009, 01:43
when welding thinner wall'd tube... do u weld small sections at a time? like maybe .065 wall... i have a picture of an exhaust that looks to be welded in inches...
garage_runner81
August 10th, 2009, 01:49
sorry it posted before i got the picture in...
atomicjoe23
August 12th, 2009, 13:34
Depends on how much heat is going into it and what type of purge gas set-up you have. . .and how much the tube is warping if at all.
When welding 0.065" aluminum we welded in sections to keep the distortion down, but that was sheet not tube. . .
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