24 Hours Of Lemons HOUSTON

[fishd00d]

Alright this is the next race for Team Underground so here is the thread for it. Its October 24th and 25th. So far the drivers are myself and Michael Loomis. Jrod is a possibility and Chief is a 90%.

[JRod]

Alright this is the next race for Team Underground so here is the thread for it. Its October 24th and 25th. So far the drivers are myself and Michael Loomis. Jrod is a possibility and Chief is a 90%.

I was gonna start this thread to let you know I grabbed "the ocho" for the car, but thought, nahhhhhhh, it's way to early to start this thread! LOL!

[michael_loomis]

Fish.. we need to pull the block out of the car... how long can you stay wednesday?

[fishd00d]

Wanna pull trans out with it? I can stay long enough.

[JRod]

what are you planning to do with the transmission?

[michael_loomis]

I was thinking about leaving it in this time...

but whatever seems easiest. Remember those trans mount bolts.... lol

[fabtoys]

So I was looking at the jalopnik clip on the race and Murille Martin was kinda picking on underground sorta here is aquote of it

"If that's not surprise enough for you, check out the Black Sheep Racing Nissan 300ZX, which has stayed alive long after almost all the other Zs have blown up and/or crashed and will start the day tomorrow in fifth place. Remember, out of the dozens of Zs that have raced in LeMons, the most successful placed 8th overall (and, yes, this is one of the two Nissan Zs that have placed 8th)."

here is a link to it http://jalopnik.com/5358189/day-one-in-the-books-rx+7-leads-monte-carlo-catching-up

[fabtoys]

Found a car for spares $325

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/1374978730.html

[michael_loomis]

Ok.. The UNDERGROUND's Houston effort is in full swing!!

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Ok.. The UNDERGROUND's Houston effort is in full swing!!


let's put some air in that turbo! LOL

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hood-Scoop-Aero-Top-NHRA-fiberglass-race-ready_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQ hashZitem2ea7dbf5d1QQitemZ200384706001QQptZMotorsQ 5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

[FlyHiFlyLo]

What year is KITT?

[fishd00d]

So does this mean we will have a guest appearance from RG??? I think its an 85

[FlyHiFlyLo]

So does this mean we will have a guest appearance from RG??? I think its an 85

I always thought it would be funny if he showed up undercover and raced. He would lap the whole field 19 times in an hour. Brakes would be on fire tho.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Ha ha you are Mr. Papageorgio

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Fees paid... 1275

Dan crew, Mike, Fish, Fly, Nick, Mitch

[fishd00d]

Nice this is going to be fun! Just not looking forward to the 24 hour each way drive lol Fly are you FLYing out? lol

[michael_loomis]

Right on Scott..

I'm going to have to practice my redneck in the next couple of weeks! Lol

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Nice this is going to be fun! Just not looking forward to the 24 hour each way drive lol Fly are you FLYing out? lol

Yeah we'll fly out or I'll ride with... Don't know... Not scared of road trips or sharing the driving.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

I'm going to have to practice my redneck in the next couple of weeks! Lol

I don't...LOL

[TreyP]

This one should be good. Can't wait for the updates and race. Get some!!

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Mike what year and PM me your address... Gunna drop ship a pile cheater parts for you and Fish to throw on... ;>

[michael_loomis]

85 turbo

pm en route...

[fishd00d]

Ya this is the race to be cheater because they arent even going to look under our hood they love us lol

[FlyHiFlyLo]

85 turbo

pm en route...

So then it's a 5 lug right? What size is the current rear sway bar? I'm scoping out a 25mm/1.0" with poly links and mounts... Do we need poly links and bushings for the front sway bar? Where's that tranny kit and ECM upgrade? send link.

[fabtoys]

Bring more beer to go with the Bigger turbo so you got something to drink after the bigger turbo blows up the motor even sooner than usual !!!LOL

Hey for T hill I'll link you up with my buddies Norcal1320 300 zx so you guys can check on spare parts you each have.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

new engine on the way...

http://www.z32.com/euro/euro2b.jpg

[michael_loomis]

I would actually like to find a complete z32 like that one! (90-96)

[michael_loomis]

Yes Fly it's 5 lug. Stock bars are 22mm F/R. I'm told the stock rear from an 88-89 is 24mm.

Links and poly bushings would work, however we'd have to make them look old. Good ole undercoating and flat black for tech.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

maybe we can some spray rust.

Do you have and old parts from the car we can sell on e-bay and my buddy buys them for high dollar... If we can sell crap off the car we can take that money and put it back right?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

The T-tops could reasonably get 200.00

[fishd00d]

This race just like the last race they arent even going to look at the car, they know us and they will just laugh at us and say get out of here as soon as we pull up lol. So we can put whatever we want on the car. Do we still have the wheel o bribe Loomis? We need to bring that again.

[michael_loomis]

It's not lemons I'm worried about, it would be Chumpcar that penalizes us. I believe the sale rule still works. I have one "receipt" from the stock electric shocks and window regulators for $237.

Well be ok.

[pdailey]

Its on like Donkey Kong. Give it hell boys!

[fishd00d]

Dan did you get us hotel reservations yet? Im trying to remember the name of the crappy place we stayed last time so we dont stay there.

[michael_loomis]

How far is the track from downtown Houston? I picked up the car from pats tonight. Ready to put the motor in this weekend. Dan is still in Maui, not sure what kinda connection he's got over there.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

How far is the track from downtown Houston? I picked up the car from pats tonight. Ready to put the motor in this weekend. Dan is still in Maui, not sure what kinda connection he's got over there.

How about this??? Should stiffin the hell out of it. Especially the bushings that hold the rear suspension subframe to the unibody... Also there is the rack mount busings...

http://i4.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/c8/da/514b_1.JPG

Rear 26mm sway bar

http://i9.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/02/3d/3f33_12.JPG

HKS Electronic Turbo boost Controller (setup for 84-90 zx w/harness)
http://i.ebayimg.com/19/!B,ukn5QBmk~$(KGrHqUH-DUEqvhBWU6JBKswBUk2Q!~~_12.JPG



What do you think?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

How far is the track from downtown Houston? I picked up the car from pats tonight. Ready to put the motor in this weekend. Dan is still in Maui, not sure what kinda connection he's got over there.

35 minutes

[michael_loomis]

Haha.. Looks expensive Fly, but donations are excepted and appreciated! :D

[fishd00d]

Downtown Houston is way to far to stay. There are plenty of nice enough hotels within 10-15 min of the track....

[dan200]

Dan did you get us hotel reservations yet? Im trying to remember the name of the crappy place we stayed last time so we dont stay there.

I just got back from maui and am already packing for an overnight trip to the Kingman Street Drags. We won last year. Gotta whoop up on some high fiving tuner kids in the bug and defend the title.

I will be back tomorrow night and do the research on hotels....

I am assuming we are gonna arrive on friday and need rooms friday and sat night. Are we bailing after the race on Sun or are we staying Sun night too?

For the record... I am so Phuggin HAPPY that we are back in this MOFO!!!!! What a load of crap we ever even withdrew in the first place. The UNDERGROUND does not quit! Clicking the little "chicken icon" on the lemons site was the most painful thing i have ever done in my life. the damn site then asks you "Are you sure you want to withdraw The UNDERGROUND from this race?"

In order to make it official you literally have to click a box that say "BAAWKK".

It felt like getting punched in the stomach.:eek:

Like I said, I just got back in town and am bailing already. Gotta go win a race and when I get back tomorrow i will sort out Hotels, bars, strip clubs etc....

Fish whatever inside info ya got for selecting accommodations by a good dive bar and track proximity (in that order). would be helpful.

[michael_loomis]

Well.. I'm thinkin we may need to leave Wednesday night after work, drive to Phoenix, pick up Dan, and continue on thru the night and try and get there thursday night. Its more fun, and less stress.

As far as leaving Sunday.. I dont want to.. but it might HAVE to be that way to make it to work on tuesday. lol

[fishd00d]

I agree 100% leaving Wednesday night. Sunday leaving sucks ass big time lol. At least if we can drive for a bit Sunday after the race and then crash somewhere for the rest of the night it makes it a little better. It is a SOLID 24 hours of drive time and that is with going pretty fast most of the way. Ill look at a map on Monday and look at some of the hotels I saw last time that looked nice. Also I have a girl friend who goes to school in Houston who is going to come out to the race, she also has friends (not sure on their looks but she is hot so I am sure they are) who are down to hang out fri/sat night around Houston!

[FlyHiFlyLo]

So Mike... Did we get any action this weekend on the engine?

That beotch is going under the knife. Gunna do a 3" channel on the rear suspension and a 3" strut tower drop on the front.

KITT is gunna be slammed to the G.

[michael_loomis]

Motor is in.. What a biatch solo! Next time the trans is coming out again for sure!

I still gotta finishing hooking everything up though, before I can test run it.

Tires and wheels will rub if we lower it much more... But I'm down to shave weight!

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Motor is in.. What a biatch solo! Next time the trans is coming out again for sure!

I still gotta finishing hooking everything up though, before I can test run it.

Tires and wheels will rub if we lower it much more... But I'm down to shave weight!

Good job... We can pull fenders once there is no double walls... ;)

If it's too crazy on the fenders we won't do the body drop...

[fishd00d]

Ya I dont think we need to lower it any. Thats not a problem with the car, it actually handles really well and like Loomis said stuff will rub if its much lower, its already got lowering springs.....the car just needs to stay on the track and we can win.

[dan200]

Motor is in.. What a biatch solo! Next time the trans is coming out again for sure!

I still gotta finishing hooking everything up though, before I can test run it.

Tires and wheels will rub if we lower it much more... But I'm down to shave weight!

we should chop out all that metal on the hood, doors...

Loomis what is the bill gonna be on new hoses?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Fish, if you think it handles good now.... The thing is going to lose 900lbs and basically be a tube chassis.

I just want to do my share of the work... You guys have done so much.

[fishd00d]

I agree Fly just the thing with Lemons is its WAY different than regular racing, it dosent matter how fast or how well your car handles, it needs to stay on the track 99% of the time. Look at the cars that were battling it out at the last race for example, a old school volvo with a big v8 and a honda prelude, They were not that fast at all but they stayed on the track the whole time. Right now the Z is plenty fast and capable it just needs to be reliable. Anything we work on should be making it so its reliable IMO, fast wont do much if its not reliable first.

Plus remember they do inspect the cars and if you show up with a majorly modified car they are going to give you penalty laps. Tube Chassis would count as majorly modified....

[FlyHiFlyLo]

It will be subtle. The core deal is removing all the crap from the front end to let the radiator breath, Extend the cage to the front to support the strut towers and add slotted camber plates so we can add some camber. Also bringing the cage forward will support a tube bumper behind the plastic bumper. As a result of removing the 5mph crap. Skin the hood and take some major chunks out of the K-member. This will take almost 300lbs off the front end static.

In the rear it was discussed about the oversteer condition. We can fix this (what will be even more amplified with the new front end work) by first removing the fuel from the very rear and placing where the passenger seat was located. also we will remove the 5mph bumper and tie it into the rear cage with a single tube bumper located behind the stock plastic. There will be tons of materials we can trim that had a purpose of impact restsance and supporting the fuel tank. Also out back, we can skin the deck lid window frames and all double wall construction from the wheel wells back.

Mid chassis we can cut all the roof webing around the T-Tops, B-pilar. Additionally the doors can be welded shut and ground smoot with the door shell and door jams removed. We can re skin the interior with 22ga 6061 T6 whereever it might be considered 'too much"

As for the rest of the crap we should add an electric fan to the rad and mabe be able to stand it upright. New trans with non-loc converter will remove 20-30lbs off the crankshaft. Then we need to hook this bad boy up to god... And figure out the A/F mixture <- I think could be your reliability issue.


For handling we can replace all the bushings with poly and also box the front and rear lower control arms.

Remember this- The lighter the car; the better it handles, brakes, accellerates and reduces stress.

We don't want to hack this thing so bad it looks Highly modified... Just hide that it is.

We have a shop to do all this crap for 3 or 4 days so if you want in on the sparks FLY'n we can sure make a go of it.

All of these mods should make the car stay on the track an hour or so longer. :)

[fishd00d]

Thats all cool and a lot of it I agree with but we gotta remember we are going to be trying to race this car in the Chumpcar series too and by doing a lot of that stuff there is no way they will let us in without penalty laps. Its Loomis's car so whatever he wants to have ya do I guess is cool. I just would like to get the motor so we can feel confident in it and reliable.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Thats all cool and a lot of it I agree with but we gotta remember we are going to be trying to race this car in the Chumpcar series too and by doing a lot of that stuff there is no way they will let us in without penalty laps. Its Loomis's car so whatever he wants to have ya do I guess is cool. I just would like to get the motor so we can feel confident in it and reliable.

What can't be done for chumpcar?

[michael_loomis]

www.Chumpcar.com

I think that stuff would still be ok...

I don't think welding the doors shut will FLY though! :) and I mean that literally lol. Too low of a roof line, especially with the cage.

Shedding weight, A/F mixture, and rear swaybar should be our priorities. We still gotta make sure Scott fits! Lol

[movindirt]

Where is your shop @ Scott? I might be able to make it over to help out.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

www.Chumpcar.com (http://www.Chumpcar.com)


I don't think welding the doors shut will FLY though! :) and I mean that literally lol. Too low of a roof line, especially with the cage.


I know how to get in and out of welded doors... However, the car looks like that ryno in Pet Detective. We'll check it out.

The thing is, so much weight is consolidated in the door structures. That weight is also located on the outside. The CG ratio changes drastically from outside to center real easy with the doors addressed.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Where is your shop @ Scott? I might be able to make it over to help out.

It's my top secret location. Area 52

[fishd00d]

I say we strip down the doors but still have them open. You bigger guys will never fit into that car if you weld the doors shut plus it makes it easier for working on the car to be able to open the door.

[michael_loomis]

It could work out if we quick connect a steering wheel. Doesn't count towards the $$

[fishd00d]

Plus's to having doors welded shut?? None that I can think of, saving maybe 1/2 pound of the door handle and linkage?? Not worth it at all IMO. Plus if the car ever did flip over its nice to be able to pry the door open.....

[movindirt]

It's my top secret location. Area 52

So is that a no to the help :confused:

I don't need to know the location;)

[michael_loomis]

Hehe.. Let me get the car running so I can get it up there, and we'll plan something out. This week is bad for me since sat is my birthday, and the weekend after is the snore race.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

It could work out if we quick connect a steering wheel. Doesn't count towards the $$


Just happens.... I have a brand new QD hub and wheel... :D

[FlyHiFlyLo]

HKS Turbo controller on the way.

Should we get the bushings?

Rear Sway Bar... I've been scopeing out the rear suspension and when we tie the rear bumper in and remove the tank we should be able to use a 78ish 3/4 ton Chevy 4x4 front sway bar. These are about 30mm and could be considered junk yard tech so we will get kudos rather than penalties.

Welding doors is not a few pounds. It's well over 100, because the jams, hinges, side impact and lock mech are the lyons share of weight. This will allow additional tube(s) to connect the lower front half to the lower rear half of the suspension together. Once you have this the body becomes merly cosmetic and your chassis is very rigid.

[michael_loomis]

Im down with the doors if its feasible. If you have any body tools, Im sure we could remove some material at the top of the door skin, and shorten the height of the door, making it easier to get in/out.

Any kind of home built sway bar setup would be cool.. thats why I was thinking about using an adjustable VW beam in the rear, mounted above the floor, with links running down to the trailing arms. :)

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Bushing Kit on the way

Vented and Slotted rear rotors on the way

[FlyHiFlyLo]

I'm also thinking with the removal of all the crap on the front end we could probally get an aluminum rad with fans from the JY and stand it up.

[michael_loomis]

Fly... you are a maniac!

and I mean that in the best, most complimentary way possible!!

[michael_loomis]

Very possible on the rad.. I need to take some measurements. I almost bought one of RGs rads from ebay the other day.. it had been patched of course but way overkill for us.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Fly... you are a maniac!

and I mean that in the best, most complimentary way possible!!

I just don't like how you get no respect with the 300zx... That may change... We will have to probally sand bag the first day if all this stuff works. Don't want this thing to get squashed.

I have a NOS kit... SHOULD WE??????

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Have you weighed the car ever?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

So is that a no to the help :confused:

I don't need to know the location;)

By the west entrance to Edwards Air Force base. 75 miutes from LA

[michael_loomis]

Haha.. man, your killin me.

With the way my schedule is, Im going to get this thing running, and drop it into your hands Fly. I dont know how in the heck were going to have time for all this stuff, but we shall see.

Doing stuff for my bday this weekend, or Id bring it up friday night and work all weekend.

Next weekend I will be racing the SNORE 250.. so my only time to come up and work will be Oct 10th,11th.. and Oct 17th,18th.

Scott, do you have a trailer?

[fishd00d]

We do not want penalty laps so whatever you do make sure its HIDDEN....and welding the doors shut is no biggie for me but the "bigger" people better make sure they can still get in and out lol.

[pdailey]

DO NOT weld the doors. Big boy says "PLEASE". LOL!

[dan200]

HOLY CRAP!!!! KITT is gettin fancy!!!

The best part of KITT not getting respect is exactly that. Being underrated is a good thing. I have the utmost confidence that the UNDERGROUND is gonna win Lemons. The judges have repeatedly told us that they like us and love the fact we bring a car they consider to be the "great heart breaker" of the lemons series. Their misconception that our car is consistently hopeless has given us an edge and we we finally take home the first place trophy it will make our win that much sweeter. Every entry essay I have written has included the fact that we very much intend to win this and do it in the mighty 300ZX.

They are gonna eat crow.

I am voting against welding the doors closed also and am totally in favor of any ghetto mods that shave weight (which will prolly help the bakes last longer and lessen the overall wear and tear on the Z).

As far as the performance mods go, just make sure they are sneaky.

[michael_loomis]

HOLY CRAP!!!! KITT is gettin fancy!!!

The best part of KITT not getting respect is exactly that. Being underrated is a good thing. I have the utmost confidence that the UNDERGROUND is gonna win Lemons. The judges have repeatedly told us that they like us and love the fact we bring a car they consider to be the "great heart breaker" of the lemons series. Their misconception that our car is consistently hopeless has given us an edge and we we finally take home the first place trophy it will make our win that much sweeter. Every entry essay I have written has included the fact that we very much intend to win this and do it in the mighty 300ZX.

They are gonna eat crow.

I am voting against welding the doors closed also and am totally in favor of any ghetto mods that shave weight (which will prolly help the bakes last longer and lessen the overall wear and tear on the Z).

As far as the performance mods go, just make sure they are sneaky.

Actually Dan.. Baking the engine is one of the things we are trying to overcome. :)

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Welding the doors... The passenger door is a non issue... Right?

The Driver's side door... If I can fit... anyone can fit... Unless anyone else is over 6'4" and 300. We will do a test. Hutchens device and helmet installed during entry sucks.

[michael_loomis]

And take it from a couple of guys, whom just had to crawl out the windshield of a bug last week... climbing out in a hurry with gear on, sucks even worse!! LOL

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Actually Dan.. Baking the engine is one of the things we are trying to overcome. :)


Mike, I think you are lean as hell. Send me a pic of one of the plugs that wasn't in the cracked chamber. Hell send me a pic of all the plugs (zoom in, up close, at the electrode end)

[michael_loomis]

Ya, Im 100% positive it was lean... two exhaust valves had finger nail shaped/sized portion erroded away, and the aluminum was eaten up around the valve seats.

Plugs actually dont look too bad, but it could have helped that they were tryin to burn water....

what is your email?

[pdailey]

And take it from a couple of guys, whom just had to crawl out the windshield of a bug last week... climbing out in a hurry with gear on, sucks even worse!! LOL

HAHA. Ya. That was happening very fast.

[dan200]

Welding the doors... The passenger door is a non issue... Right?


That passenger door flew open on me twice at thill. we really only open it to swap out the camelback and help with driver changes.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Ya, Im 100% positive it was lean... two exhaust valves had finger nail shaped/sized portion erroded away, and the aluminum was eaten up around the valve seats.

Plugs actually dont look too bad, but it could have helped that they were tryin to burn water....

what is your email?

Sounds like there could be some serious detonation. Look at all the plugs. Look at the porcelain portion of the electrode. look very close and see if you see ANY little silver pokadots attached to the porcelain. You may need a magnifing glass... Or not. What octane fuel are you running? flyhiflylo@yahoo

[fishd00d]

I still say having the doors open is a big help for working on the car. Trust me it will SUCK to work on anything inside the car without the doors being able to open. On a desert truck you can take panels off to work on stuff. I also vote no for welding the doors.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

That passenger door flew open on me twice.

Yes... Ye-Old body flex?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

What is in the driver's compartment?

Steering wheel
Shifter
Brake pedal
Gas Pedal
Rear View mirror
Seat
Seat Belts
Cluster
Starter switch

Everything else should be under the hood? Or isn't it?

[fishd00d]

Computer and TONS of wiring, Dash gauges and wires, cd player (very important part of KITT). Remember this is a Lemons car Fly not a LeMans car lol. Wait till you actually goto one of these events its going to be a lot different than ya think trust me.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

There are two harness' right one for the chassis and one for the EM? They are both tied to the ECM?

[dan200]

Yes... Ye-Old body flex?

I dunno. Not likely though. I think it was just not shut all the way when I went out on the track. It was also unlocked. Never happened again and I am careful to make sure it is locked before we send it back on the track. The door flying open is a non issue anymore.

[michael_loomis]

There wiring harnesses and relays etc stashed everywhere.

Fly, this thing has a detonation sensor that retards the timing. The fuel pressure reg is vacuum controlled. The slightest change in vacuum or boost changes the fuel pressure. I just noticed, as I put the manifold back on, that the 1" npt boost relief valve, was loose and not even hand tight. Im not taking any chances... I'm taking that pos out and putting a manual FPR in. Also an A/F gauge like Tony and I talked about. Gonna test run in an hour.

[michael_loomis]

Door just wasn't shut properly, and outer handle is broken.. Must open from inside. It's not biggie but I get in there alot as we work, add gauges, install transponder every race, etc.

Fly, when you see the car I'm sure you will have a million more ideas lol

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Fly, when you see the car I'm sure you will have a million more ideas lol

Hopefully I only get Hundreds of more ideas.. I'm already at 400bucks LOL

[FlyHiFlyLo]

There wiring harnesses and relays etc stashed everywhere.




Dozens of pounds of crap... Pure Crap. :D

Plus, if the crap hits the fan electrical wise... Where do we start... Chassis only needs one set of head lights, and tail lights right?

[michael_loomis]

I dunno.. I'll get you a link to the manual... I'm afraid to start hacking lol

[FlyHiFlyLo]

I'm afraid to start hacking

I'm not.

[michael_loomis]

ok.. so I have test fired the motor.

Good news: It runs!!

Bad news: Intermittantly.

Fuel Pressure good. Spark good. most the time it will only try to fire for the first second, then crank uselessly. when it does run, it fires right up instantly, but if you touch the throttle at all, it dies. hmm.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

ok.. so I have test fired the motor.

Good news: It runs!!

Bad news: Intermittantly.

Fuel Pressure good. Spark good. most the time it will only try to fire for the first second, then crank uselessly. when it does run, it fires right up instantly, but if you touch the throttle at all, it dies. hmm.


Check your MAF

[michael_loomis]

When Nissan did the injector recall.. they made all the injectors fire at the same time off of cyl 3 and 4's signal... everyone says wiring them back to stock is a must. So I did that when put it back together.

At button willow, we had an intermittant problem with idle... it wouldnt at all sometimes. I would unplug the idle control solenoid, and plug it back in, and it would be ok for a bit.. out racing it wasnt a prob.. just in the pit at idle.

now its kind of the opposite lol

[FlyHiFlyLo]

I suggest putting it BACK... Then try it.

Also did you mess with the boost at all? On some Turbo cars if the boost is set too hi it will cut the fuel as a fail safe.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

.

At button willow, we had an intermittant problem with idle... it wouldnt at all sometimes. I would unplug the idle control solenoid, and plug it back in, and it would be ok for a bit.. out racing it wasnt a prob.. just in the pit at idle.



Have you set the resistance on the TPS?

[michael_loomis]

Stupid hidden vacuum line!! This thing has got me so sketched out lol. Everything is really simple, just so much of it.

I'm ready to throw a carb on it! Lol

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Reseat the rings to get rid of the blow by. Use Bon-Ami cleanser mixed with gas to repolish the rings. Mix 4:1 in a bottle and pour in while engine is running. About 6oz. Gunna be a beotch with the way that intake is.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

After further review of the cage being so low... We will not weld the door shut.... I've seen armored car with larger window openings...LOL

But the door will be raped like a little school boy.

[michael_loomis]

I knew it!! Fly IS a catholic priest!!

:D

[FlyHiFlyLo]

I knew it!! Fly IS a catholic priest!!

:D



Have you sinned lately??? :eek:

[michael_loomis]

Do mexicans scatter when they hear La Migra?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Look what the UPS man just dumped on my step this morning.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff42/flyhiflylo/Lemons%20Houston/IMG00118.jpg

[michael_loomis]

Sweet! Man.. F lemons.. Let's enter daytona!

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Sweet! Man.. F lemons.. Let's enter daytona!


Yeah but we can't weld the doors shut....LOL

[dan200]

Sweet! Man.. F lemons.. Let's enter daytona!

Oh Man, This is gonna be a tricky "entry essay" to write...:eek:

[movindirt]

Look what the UPS man just dumped on my step this morning.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff42/flyhiflylo/Lemons%20Houston/IMG00118.jpg

:D:D:D

Nice!

[FlyHiFlyLo]

We all now have a degree from Cal-Poly!

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff42/flyhiflylo/Lemons%20Houston/IMG00120.jpg

[michael_loomis]

Ohh jeebus!! That looks like work! Lol

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Ohh jeebus!! That looks like work! Lol

Brings new meaning to the term "stiffy" We need to pull the control arms and plate the channel, rebush and reinstall...

[michael_loomis]

Tha chassis is gonna flex WAY WAY before any cross member...

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Tha chassis is gonna flex WAY WAY before any cross member...

I'm talking about plating the control arms. They are stamped. You plate the bottoms so they become boxed and won't twist. The cage will become the chassis.

[TreyP]

I'm talking about plating the control arms. They are stamped. You plate the bottoms so they become boxed and won't twist. The cage will become the chassis.


I'm lovin' Fly's RG Cheats. :cool:

[fishd00d]

Fly seriously that is WAY to much work to plate and do all that crap. These races are not like other road course races. The biggest thing is to NOT get in a crash and get a black flag because the second you get one black flag all of that work plating and doing all that crap is worthless because you just lost the race.

[michael_loomis]

Actually.. We do need to box in the strut tubes, so that could work out nicely.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Fly seriously that is WAY to much work to plate and do all that crap. These races are not like other road course races. The biggest thing is to NOT get in a crash and get a black flag because the second you get one black flag all of that work plating and doing all that crap is worthless because you just lost the race.

Why are you play'a hate'n? :D

Don't we just take this thing up to a comfortable speed, roll through the turns, pass on the straits and cruz for 15 hours then see where we are at, then throw you in there to bring home the gold smack down style??????

If this thing is on rails it's better for everyone who drives.

[michael_loomis]

You got that wayyy wrong.. Fish brings the car to me, then I bring home the fast lap and the gold! :)

[dan200]

This is gonna be awesome. Fly how are the dudes from yer work behind the wheel? FAst? Unknown?

[fishd00d]

hahah no hate Fly just trying to be realistic with the time we have and after having done some of these races and see what it takes to win. Car stays on track and 0 black flags = win. Fast car and 1 black flag = kiss win bye bye.

Im all for making the car nice just lets make sure its reliable and ready to go!! And Loomis you are driving before me this time buddy, you put way to much work in it to be driving it last, I will bring up the rear plus then I will know what your laptime is that I have to beat :)

[dan200]

I love that we are competitive even within ourselves....

[michael_loomis]

Please fish... You already raced this track, I've never even seen video!

If you don't already beat my time... You never will. :D

[dan200]

Please fish... You already raced this track, I've never even seen video!

If you don't already beat my time... You never will. :D

pwned:D

[FlyHiFlyLo]

after having done some of these races and see what it takes to win.

There is only one way to see what it takes to win. Doh!


I will bring up the rear Your bringing Josh?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Fly how are the dudes from yer work behind the wheel?

Well lets see>

Fly: Drives the LA freeways and his car's data shows an average speed of 50 it's whole life. 80-85 MPH everywhere with a cig in one hand and a Blackberry in the other. Grew up on country roads. I can wheel all day and keep it clean.

Mitch: First car was a Shelby GT 350, Now drives daily one of two Mercedes v-12 one EFI with 550HP Other Twin Turbo 750HP. Not scared to get in a POS with 250HP.

Nick: 30 years old, done some karting, understands apex dynamics and just showed me on bike Video of him doing 180MPH on his new street bike.

George: Poorsh luver from Bevery Hills 90210 and is currently building a 911 racecar.

We'll be okay.

[dan200]

Not a bad resume.... that will do. I thought it was just you and two other guys....

[michael_loomis]

Sounds like a bunch of guys about to get there ass's handed to them.

100mph.. Inches from other cars that aren't cruising down the freeway.. There out of control!

This is gonna be fun! Only rule.. Wreck it.. You own it. :)

I have a ton of receipts. Hahahaha

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Mitch and George will probally only race Sat for an hour or so each. If they get the Lemons bug I'm sure we can build that extra team you wanted. :)

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Don't forget we still have the IROC

[FlyHiFlyLo]

100mph.. Inches from other cars that aren't cruising down the freeway.. There out of control!

SH!+ I might have to put out the Cigarette or not text.

[michael_loomis]

Just FYI... 6 drivers means we will not win. Guaranteed.

[fishd00d]

Uh ya driving for an hour or so each = no win. Fly if you want to win it needs to be 5 drivers doing FULL fuel loads each which is about 3 hours. Thats the ONLY way to win and Loomis and Dan will back me up on that one lol.

[fishd00d]

Also this race the pitting is pretty awesome because they have hot pits!! So its just like Nascar where you pull down pit lane and everyone has a spot next to the wall, the only thing that kinda sucks is that if you need to work on the car with a lot of tools you gotta drive it back to your pit because you basically just have fuel at the wall. But it makes it fast for doing driver change/fuel ups!

[pdailey]

You guys are crazy!! Less stops are better. I say we put a fuel cell in later and do 5 hour stints!!

[fishd00d]

The colder races it will be a lot easier to go longer. This race I assume will be pretty nice weather and shouldnt be to hot or to cold so we can easily go 3 hours, at least me and Loomis can. Not sure what those other guys are gonna be like though if they arent used to it.

Also did anyone read if they are doing the FULL track or the same one they did earlier this year? If its the shorter one there will be a TON of traffic because its not that long of a course so the stints in the car are a little tougher since your working it pretty much the whole time.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

The first day we sit out one or two guys. Then on Sunday we can just run 4 guys?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

We can run the race pits backwards on the first day? Short pit first driver after 1.5 hours... Two full fuel runs with two drivers then last driver brings it home with 1/2 fuel load. Day two same thing yesterday's last driver for 1/2 fuel load then the three final drivers?

[michael_loomis]

Sunday is only 6 hours. Our normal plan is 3 drivers Saturday, and 2 on Sunday.

[fishd00d]

Well on Saturday it goes from 11:30-6. So thats 6 1/2 hours. We SHOULD be able to do that on 2 tanks meaning only 2 people drive that day. Then Sunday it goes from 9:15-4:15, which is 7 hours. Meaning we can do that on 3 pit stops with 2 drivers doing full fuel loads and the last driver doing less. So that would be 5 stops total and 5 drivers total. Thats the way to win, more stops = less time on track and cars that dont stop will gain 3-4 laps on us per stop at least.

[fishd00d]

The big question is Fly can you and your buddies do 3 hour stints in the car? If not then we can do whatever because it wont matter and we might as well just go to have fun.


Sunday is 7 hours loomis....

[michael_loomis]

How come they have such a weird schedule in Texas???

Either way.. Fly and his buddies will be suffering the wraith of the black flag. A LOT. LOL!!

Im not going to Texas to win.. I'm going to finish a GD race, and build some confidence in this POS car. A finish in the top 10 would be a huge victory for me.

Fly, you guys are going to have to pay attention to LOCAL and FULL COURSE yellows. Passing under a local yellow will have you in the box quick.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Fish check out my RDC account. I just wrote a f'n 1000 word essy on your concerns and got the Mother F'n busy server!!!

[michael_loomis]

Another thing to consider, is that your first hour of driving is spent learning the track, getting used to braking points, and learning the cars limits in corners.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Well Fish you bring up some valuable points with all the drivers... I guess your going to have to be relegated to pit crew. LOL

Dude, we ain't gunna win this thing. We have one guy (Mitch that is paying for this and the other guy George is his best buddy) let the millionaires ride around on Sat. They aren't even gunna Race (or probally be there) Sunday. because that is Mitch's wife's B-day. So if we have one or two more stops we can still attempt a finish and see where the chips fall... It could be a win. Ya never know Fish Flash :)

What do they say is the first thing you need to do to finish first?

[michael_loomis]

I'm thinking we should bring ALL of our spare tires, even the stocks lol

[FlyHiFlyLo]

I hope you guys know this car is going to get the best mileage it has ever had.

[michael_loomis]

Oh ya, and that badass SL65 and whatever other V12 you boss has... Ain't got nothin on the Z. Those cars have traction control, there easy to drive! Hehehe

[michael_loomis]

Hey Scott, speaking of fuel, who is sending us our $700 for the fuel bill? :)

[FlyHiFlyLo]

By the way, we want to get the hotel rooms today for us and a rental car. What days do you guys need a room? Mike are you and Dan wanting two queens or a single King? Non smoking or polesmoking?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Hey Scott, speaking of fuel, who is sending us our $700 for the fuel bill? :)

Nuff said...

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff42/flyhiflylo/Lemons%20Houston/gas.jpg

[fishd00d]

Ok well as long as we all agree we are not going for the win then it dosent matter how many stops we make lol. So I guess just whoever drives for as long as they want and then we'll switch out. Fly I wouldnt spend so much time and $$ on all that extra stuff you wanna do to the car if we arent going for the win. The car will cruise around the track just fine the way it is. Lets make sure the motor is running 100% correct as that should be our only concern.

[michael_loomis]

Even with driver changes, if we just keep running consistant laps, we should be top 10. Then maybe a little luck will come into play?

Faster car isn't gonna hurt, can only bump us up a slot or two :)

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Ok well as long as we all agree we are not going for the win then it dosent matter how many stops we make lol. So I guess just whoever drives for as long as they want and then we'll switch out. Fly I wouldnt spend so much time and $$ on all that extra stuff you wanna do to the car if we arent going for the win. The car will cruise around the track just fine the way it is. Lets make sure the motor is running 100% correct as that should be our only concern.

That reverse psycho crap ain't gunna work on me bro. We can win... You are F'n telling me with two extra stops we are doomed to leave the turn signals on this POS? Come on now, even if we stopped for some wine and crackers picnic style in the center of the track we should still be looking to cook some lemon ass while racing on the track. I want to win as bad as you but now you are making me feel like a sabator instead of a facilitor.... One extra driver is no big deal this race.

Chin up dood. I'll tell you what I will do. I will race last. If we are dominating and can't afford to spend 2.5 minutes in the pits I will not race. But your ass is cashing in all those Nikels and giving me 750 of it.

[fishd00d]

That reverse psycho crap ain't gunna work on me bro. We can win... You are F'n telling me with two extra stops we are doomed to leave the turn signals on this POS? Come on now, even if we stopped for some wine and crackers picnic style in the center of the track we should still be looking to cook some lemon ass while racing on the track. I want to win as bad as you but now you are making me feel like a sabator instead of a facilitor.... One extra driver is no big deal this race.

Chin up dood. I'll tell you what I will do. I will race last. If we are dominating and can't afford to spend 2.5 minutes in the pits I will not race. But your ass is cashing in all those Nikels and giving me 750 of it.

hahaha you are not racing last buddy!!! I will not let you pull that crap. Its cool we have a good shot at it we just gotta avoid the black flags. Doing a pit stop will cost us about 3-4 laps so we just have to drive faster to make up for it but we can do it! Just pound in those other guys heads that black flags = the devil!! Even if you put 2 tires in the dirt they will black flag you at Houston!! There is a lot of spotters at this track and its flat as can be and you can see all the way around the track so you cant get away with anything there. Clean race = top 10.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Dammit! I thought you would go for it... I have been slamming these guys ----RACE CLEAN----RACE SMOOTH----JUST DRIVE TO YOUR ABILITY----

[fishd00d]

Fly see if you can get RG to come out, he can take my spot if so.

[michael_loomis]

You guys are funny..

Fish is sick, I think he's just cranky. Lol.

All he is tryin to do is shed some insight thru experiance. We thought we could go kick ass with 6 GOOD RACERS our first race.. Boy did we eff that one up. Just as Fly wants to use his resources to help build the fastest lemon we can build (which I am extremely greatful for) , fish wants to use all the strategy we have learned to better our overall position.

No matter what, were not going to have the best pit strategy, so we'll work with it, and go have fun. Yes we need to focus on a reliable power plant, but a faster chassis means we don't have to push the motor so hard as well.

Bottomline.. Let's have fun! I'm still going for fast lap!!

I'll pick a hotel today..

[michael_loomis]

Btw... You wanna know how demented Fly really is??





Check out the "calender" notepad behind the gas card! Lol

[michael_loomis]

Check this link...

http://reservations.hotel-guides.us/nexres/search/search_results.cgi?avail=Y&bed_type=NP&src=10011673&address_lat_lng=29.169534%2C-95.432068&max_distance=20&poi_name=Hotels+near+Angleton%2C+Texas&smoking_pref=NP&tab=tab0&search_city_vicinity=1&t0_distance=10&chk_in=10%2F22%2F2009&doa_mm=10&doa_dd=22&doa_yy=2009&chk_out=10%2F26%2F2009&dod_mm=10&dod_dd=26&dod_yy=2009&num_adults=2&num_children=0&num_rooms=3&minorAge1=-%3F-&minorAge2=-%3F-&minorAge3=-%3F-&minorAge4=-%3F-&Go=Find+Hotels

if it works lol

[fishd00d]

Link dosent seem to be working. Which hotel you looking at. We dont wanna stay at the bloody pillow one lol

[michael_loomis]

Lmao!! I forgot about that! Bloody pillows!! F staying near the track, either closer to Houston or closer to the ocean

[fishd00d]

Im waiting to hear back from my chick friend in Houston but im thinking Houston or close to it is where we are gonna want to be.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

So fish are you going to come out the 8,9,10,11th to throw the hatchet on this car or are you too scared to see sparks FLY?

[fishd00d]

Come out where lol? I will be at the Powder Puff and Expo that weekend trying to make some $$ to goto Houston!

[michael_loomis]

Sigh....


http://www.redz31.net/pages/fuel/jwt.html

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Sigh....


http://www.redz31.net/pages/fuel/jwt.html

This is what you were talking about?

"JWT requires that the Nissan injector repair campaign work be reversed(ie. wiring reverted back to original) before installing the JWT computer."

Looks like the JWT mapping doesn't support the factory rework. I bet your "Stock" ECU had the ECU software updated at the dealer when the recall took place. I would go back to what your car had when you started. Not doing that would cause a lean in some and rich in other chamber situation. What cyclinders took a crap? Yup....

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Btw... You wanna know how demented Fly really is??





Check out the "calender" notepad behind the gas card! Lol

Ha ha time to change that sheet. LOL you should see the rest of it.

[fishd00d]

Ok so this is the message back from my chick friend in Houston:

i pretty much have only slightly familiarized myself with the medical center, rice village and midtown (between the medical center/college area and downtown). If you wanted to stay near me midtown would be the best (lots of fun bars!).


So lets stay in "midtown" area??

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Do you guys want to rent an RV in Houston and have it at the track instead of hotel? What do we do with the race car?

[dan200]

Do you guys want to rent an RV in Houston and have it at the track instead of hotel? What do we do with the race car?

In the past we have just tarped the car or stuck it in the enclosed. We leave it at the track. Noone messes with the UNDERGROUND!

RV's are prolly not gonna get any votes in favor. Hotel is better IMO. We have discussed the RV in the past. Noone was down for that.

What trailer are we gonna use? What are we towing it with? Diddy usually lets us take his enclosed. Pat what do ya say? Anyone try and mooch that off him yet? It will take a lot of gas to lug that big ol thing to Texas though, Maybe we should consider a flat bed...

And where is Mid town fish?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Does hanging at night with the other racers help status?

[fishd00d]

Enclosed would be awesome that way stuff can get locked up plus having the tools in it is priceless. The gas will be not much different if we are using my gramps HD, it will get 13-14MPG no matter what it tows.

Dont really have to worry about people messing with stuff at the track it was way chill earlier this year at Houston and people even said how no one will mess with anything.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Tools??? We don't need no stink'n tools!

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Hey Mike, Will a new T-4 turbo work on that car?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

I just got one of these.

http://trendgears.com/ebay/TacoTacoNew/TurboAccessories/Other/BoostControler-Red1-Taco.jpg

[michael_loomis]

That's how I have it boosted now at 8 psi.. Valve just like that from a local hardware store.

They didn't remap anything when they changed injectors.. And every Nissan forum everywhere says to return it to stock. I just returned it to stock prior to starting this motor. It leaned and blew with recall wiring, and not enough fuel pressure.

2 things are mandatory before we race. A/F gauge kit with wideband o2 and bung. (eBay $200), and a fuel pressure regulator (manually adjustable).

This thing runs good. It was super rich, burning my eyes, the I adjusted the MAF screw (hidden from factory, had to drill the housing to access screw). I just don't know where to set it without some sort of meter.

T4 is of now help. You can pull 15-18 out of a stock T3, but the stock injectors can't supply enough fuel at 260cc.

[michael_loomis]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Universal-Fuel-Pressure-Regulator-Kit-CH-300ZX-350Z-G35_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4999Q2ec0Q2em14QQha shZitem3a532b862bQQitemZ250503464491QQptZRaceQ5fCa rQ5fParts#ht_5937wt_948

[FlyHiFlyLo]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Universal-Fuel-Pressure-Regulator-Kit-CH-300ZX-350Z-G35_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4999Q2ec0Q2em14QQha shZitem3a532b862bQQitemZ250503464491QQptZRaceQ5fCa rQ5fParts#ht_5937wt_948

What do you do with the stock one and this one only goes to 10psi?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Have you ran it under a load yet? That is what matters. Could be rich in the garage but killer on the road.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

That's how I have it boosted now at 8 psi.. Valve just like that from a local hardware store.

.

Can we put this one in the cockpit?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

I'm talking to chris at contenital converter Monday. We need to get that lock out gone. That could be some $$$

[michael_loomis]

"For this reason, We offers our Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator. Made of polished aluminum, this lightweight regulator is universal and offers a 0-140 PSI-adjustable range to tailor to all your fuel system requirements."

The PSI reading is the RED numbers. :) Leave the stock one where its at.

No, I havent driven it under load yet.. I need to get my gramps timing light. Like I said though.. once its timed, the rich/lean is all a twist of a rotary resistor. I leaned it out and my eyes stopped burning.. lol.. I just need to know where its at under load.. AND I need 50psi!!

[FlyHiFlyLo]

do you have SS brake lines?

[michael_loomis]

Have you ran it under a load yet? That is what matters. Could be rich in the garage but killer on the road.

This is what scares me... it was rich in the shop last time too before it blew the f up! lol

[michael_loomis]

do you have SS brake lines?

Nope.. low priority..

[FlyHiFlyLo]

The PSI reading is the RED numbers. :) Leave the stock one where its at.



Doh I was looking at BAR pressure... It's on the way.

[michael_loomis]

Yes, I "could" put it in the cockpit.. the problem with running that long of vacuum line to a manual boost controller, is boost creep..

[FlyHiFlyLo]

This is what scares me... it was rich in the shop last time too before it blew the f up! lol

We need to put it on my buddy's smog dyno.

[michael_loomis]

Doh I was looking at BAR pressure... It's on the way.

You sir.. are a kook... but I like ya... LOL

I'm making an ebay list of stuff needed... but now I dont wanna post it.. lol

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Yes, I "could" put it in the cockpit.. the problem with running that long of vacuum line to a manual boost controller, is boost creep..

There is no dash right? It can go through and against the firewall?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

I got an auction lot of 5 pairs of hood pin sets so we can fully skin the hood and ditch all the hinges and latches

[michael_loomis]

I need to find a 2 7/8ths silicone hose about 3" long too.. just for piece of mind..

[michael_loomis]

I got an auction lot of 5 pairs of hood pin sets so we can fully skin the hood and ditch all the hinges and latches

that will be a ton of weight saved! that hood is friggin outrageously heavy.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

This is what scares me... it was rich in the shop last time too before it blew the f up! lol

Return the wires to stock. You may think it was rich but 2 of the cyclinders could still be lean. Do you have an IR thermometer?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

I need to find a 2 7/8ths silicone hose about 3" long too.. just for piece of mind..

for what?

[michael_loomis]

How many CFM for a 31x16 radiator you think we need?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

that will be a ton of weight saved! that hood is friggin outrageously heavy.


That will be about 85lbs of high centered weight removed.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Lawn Dart

[michael_loomis]

Return the wires to stock. You may think it was rich but 2 of the cyclinders could still be lean. Do you have an IR thermometer?

a big negative on any technical tool.. lol

Wiring is back to stock..


for what?

our intake hose is made of cement I think...

[FlyHiFlyLo]

a big negative on any technical tool.. lol

Wiring is back to stock..



our intake hose is made of cement I think...

I thought you meant two 7/8" x3" hoses... I was like WTF?

Can we get an intake system or would that be a no no?

[michael_loomis]

Thoughts on removing the stupid carbon cannister? I already unhooked all the vacuum lines to it.. Im only concerned about the one to the tank.

[michael_loomis]

I thought you meant two 7/8" x3" hoses... I was like WTF?

Can we get an intake system or would that be a no no?

No/no.. plus its pretty much a waste with forced induction. we have a clamp on cone mesh filter.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

like this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/88-95-CHEVY-GMC-C10-TRUCK-350-305-TBI-AIR-INTAKE-V8_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhas hZitem3ef8b3bacaQQitemZ270460500682QQptZMotorsQ5fC arQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

[michael_loomis]

we already have less restrictive intake.. were cool there.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Thoughts on removing the stupid carbon cannister? I already unhooked all the vacuum lines to it.. Im only concerned about the one to the tank.

That ties electronically into your ecg to the pump? If not.... ga-by

[michael_loomis]

winner!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Spal-Electric-Radiator-Cooling-Fan-New-Chevy-Ford-Mopar_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQ hashZitem4ceb097462QQitemZ330360779874QQptZMotorsQ 5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

[michael_loomis]

That ties electronically into your ecg to the pump? If not.... ga-by

Nope.. nothing electrical there.. Just dont want to have a vent prob, or pick up prob.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3-x-3-0-2-75-Intercooler-Hose-Reducer-Coupler-Intake_W0QQitemZ390097335825QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMot ors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item5ad39cf61 1&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245


?????

[michael_loomis]

Nah.. I have a 3" one and its too loose...

[FlyHiFlyLo]

winner!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Spal-Electric-Radiator-Cooling-Fan-New-Chevy-Ford-Mopar_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQ hashZitem4ceb097462QQitemZ330360779874QQptZMotorsQ 5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Chicken Dinner? are you gunna snipe it?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Nope.. nothing electrical there.. Just dont want to have a vent prob, or pick up prob.

We are going to move the tank so we can deal with the return line later... Yank it.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-75-Intercooler-Hose-Reducer-Coupler-Intake-Turbo_W0QQitemZ370264690376QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMoto rs_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item56357ecec8&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

????

[michael_loomis]

Done!

Remote oil & Trans coolers..
Electric Fan
Im hunting hoses too..

I've eliminated some metal connecting pipes in favor of just a long piece of new rubber hose (turbo cooling line) as I want to reduce the amount of probable leaks.

[michael_loomis]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-75-Intercooler-Hose-Reducer-Coupler-Intake-Turbo_W0QQitemZ370264690376QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMoto rs_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item56357ecec8&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

????

geebus.. for 2 bucks, how can you go wrong? lol

[FlyHiFlyLo]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/16-Reversible-Electric-Cooling-Fan-w-Mount-Kit-16-inch_W0QQitemZ200385179450QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotor s_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2ea7e32f3a&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

???? comes with retainers

[michael_loomis]

On the fan.. I have more faith in the Spal.. my buddy that used to work for alumicraft SWEARS by them...

[FlyHiFlyLo]

geebus.. for 2 bucks, how can you go wrong? lol

2 on the way... 14 bucks with ship and tax...LOL

[FlyHiFlyLo]

On the fan.. I have more faith in the Spal.. my buddy that used to work for alumicraft SWEARS by them...

well then you can camp out for the auction end...LOL

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Don't worry about the remote engine oil cooler... Could cause way more trouble than it's worth... Even the trans cooler... You took the ac condenser out right?

[michael_loomis]

Chicken Dinner? are you gunna snipe it?

I'll be at bday dinner.. I'll try and get it from my phone lol

[michael_loomis]

Don't worry about the remote engine oil cooler... Could cause way more trouble than it's worth... Even the trans cooler... You took the ac condenser out right?

yes on the condenser.. its all open and ready for an intercooler up there. :)

IT wouldnt be a big deal in a N/A car.. but for the turbo cars... even the factory put a remote oil cooler on.. I only took it off because it was full of aluminum. :(

Just cause RG lost one while en route to a third at the 1000... LOL.. he was behind anyways.. he forgot the light bar!

[FlyHiFlyLo]

better fan.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ELECTRIC-COOLING-FAN-12-FROM-A-NISSAN-TITAN_W0QQitemZ280399945077QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_D efaultDomain_100?hash=item4149239d75&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

[FlyHiFlyLo]

IT wouldnt be a big deal in a N/A car.. but for the turbo cars... even the factory put a remote oil cooler on.. I only took it off because it was full of aluminum. :(



10-4 big dawg

[michael_loomis]

"cooling a generatoror whatever."

I'll keep that in mind when I purchase a generatoror whatever...

[FlyHiFlyLo]

I'll be at bday dinner.. I'll try and get it from my phone lol

Geezer

[FlyHiFlyLo]

"cooling a generatoror whatever."

I'll keep that in mind when I purchase a generatoror whatever...


ha ha

[michael_loomis]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Innovate-A-F-DB-Gauge-w-LC-1-wideband-O2-sensor_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14Q QhashZitem56343c3423QQitemZ370243548195QQptZMotors Q5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

fo sho..

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Too spendy for me right now. Maybe next race. (if fish don't wad the car up) :D

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Time for me to turn into a pumpkin.

[michael_loomis]

I'll get it.. i need to protect all the money that Pat, Roger and myself have spent on motors!

[FlyHiFlyLo]

I'll get it.. i need to protect all the money that Pat, Roger and myself have spent on motors!


Cool!

The trans is going to be a big hit for me I think...

[michael_loomis]

well.. its totally up to you.. its been 2.5 races already without many probs.. but whatever your wisdom ($$) says we should do.. im game.. :D

[fishd00d]

Fly if your planning on moving the fuel tank and putting in a cell this race forget it. Thats a complete waste of $$$ and time. We would need to build a complete enclosure of it also since there has to be a firewall between you and the fuel tank. Plus something about having the gas tank sitting next to you at a lemons race does not sound like a good idea at all lol. The gas tank is fine where it is and especially if we are not running full fuel loads its not a big deal at all.

You guys are going crazy with all this stuff lol. The car is going to be a full out spec car when your done lol

[dan200]

fish where the hell is "midtown"

[dan200]

You guys are going crazy with all this stuff lol. The car is going to be a full out spec car when your done lol

winning this in an automatic 300zx will a groundbreaking event!

[michael_loomis]

I kinda like the fuel tank idea personally, but we'll see...

[fishd00d]

fish where the hell is "midtown"

No idea lol

[FlyHiFlyLo]

winning this in an automatic 300zx will a groundbreaking event!

We can't win.:mad:

[FlyHiFlyLo]

a big negative on any technical tool..

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=96451

Point this at the exhaust manifold just below each exhaust port out of the head. It will tell you how even the burn is. Never used one on manifolds tho. Works great on headers. But if you can see the exhaust temp higher on some than the other that means a leaner condition.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Fly if your planning on moving the fuel tank and putting in a cell this race forget it. Thats a complete waste of $$$ and time. Plus something about having the gas tank sitting next to you at a lemons race does not sound like a good idea at all lol.

You guys are going crazy

Dude crazy is right! We aren't getting a fuel cell... We are moving the stock tank... In fact since the doors will still open we are going to put the fuel filler right next to your head. :D

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Mike do you have the chassis and engine wire diagram emailable?

[michael_loomis]

Not at this time..

I have a temp gun.. Works great, prob is, it will only tell you which cylinder has an issue.. I.e. Injector, valve etc. It's won't say anything about an overall lean condition under load.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Not at this time..

I have a temp gun.. Works great, prob is, it will only tell you which cylinder has an issue.. I.e. Injector, valve etc. It's won't say anything about an overall lean condition under load.

I'm curious as to how the ET would change from origonal to reworked injector wiring.

[Mumzy]

fish where the hell is "midtown"

pretty much bellow Central park and north of the Village......oops...sorry I'll leave you guys alone now.

[movindirt]

So fish are you going to come out the 8,9,10,11th to throw the hatchet on this car or are you too scared to see sparks FLY?

Fish is scared of sparks. Have him hold parts while you tack them with a mig..:D

Let me know where and I will happily help w/ KITT's diet!

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Fish is scared of sparks. Have him hold parts while you tack them with a mig..:D

Let me know where and I will happily help w/ KITT's diet!

Sounds like we need you to hold parts lol... PMing ya

[fishd00d]

I just talked to Nick Pon and we are doing the FULL TRACK at Houston!! Awesome!!