seat sliders

[bajaboy]

Just wanted peples opinions on seat sliders for racing seats.

Are they secure enough for a prerunner? I don't want to take a big hit and end up kissing the windshield! If I weld them in, my cooler would be a pain to get in and out! What do you guys think?

[jeff]

Assuming you've got a good belt system (4 or 5 point) holding you in, the seat doesn't require a hellatiously strong mount. It's more to provide a place for your butt. Good quality seat sliders are plenty strong - if you crash hard enough to tear / break a 4 or 5-point the least of your worries will be a seat slider.

Aloha

[dezerts10]

if ya gotta buy them dont get them in my opinon. I have them on my race seats in my truck and they dont work. they got jammed or soemthing and the wire that operates both sides at the same time broke.
Gregg

[michael_loomis]

ive been in quite a few race cars with stock VW adjusters under a beard seat , they work pretty good if you keepem clean

the last pics posted of robbies TT show seat adjusters . they even look kinda VW'ish

[Motorider]

I had a seat slider in my ranger on the driver's seat, because the guy who I bought the truck from was 5'4" and I am 6'1" and it was a little bit close. I drove it somewhat hard, out in the desert, and I ran it at ROR and that was the least of my concerns. BTW it was a beard slider and seat. I am happy to see that you are putting racing seats in, I feel that they make a big difference in what you feel comfortable doing in the truck.

[bajaboy]

Yep,

I'm building a new pre-runner and the seats are something I really think help you get the feel of your vehicle , better then sliding around in a stock Toyota bucket seat. I'm just worried, cause the Mastercraft sliders look kind of wimpy. Do you guys think adding a slider only to the passenger side is a good idea? sounds kinda mean huh?

[Paul Holguin]

The passenger seat would be the " [I have been warned] in law" seat lol! IMO, I would ditch the sliders and build a cooler rack into the rear cage behind the cab if possible. I was over putting sliders on my beards, but maybe I'm paranoid............ http://www.race-dezert.com/vb3/attachments/old/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[Paul Holguin]

wow!!! I didn't know you couldn't say that!!!

[Rprice]

I'am installing seats in my truck. I might buy the sliders but i might just make mine. what do you guys recomend sliders or make mine built formyself.

[bajaboy]

I"ve never seen people fab their own sliders, What have you seen out there? any pics?

[Rprice]

Oh sorry i didnt specify enough in my post. theyll be solidly mounted possibly the passenger will have a slider for passengers. I will not fab my own sliders. thanks

[Me and My Toys]

The seat sliders in the "RPS Sports - Cam Thierriot's Class One Car" posted in the features section appear to be fabricated. I was thinking about doing something like that in my truck.

[J.JOHNSON]

The sliders that Mastercraft and beard use are good sliders. Wide Open Baja has thousands of miles on them. Their clients have plenty of bad crashes in them and they work fine.
Not to mention that the are DOT approved.

[jesusgatos]

If you have to use sliders, I'd buy the setup that Danny at Streamline (http://streamlinefabrication.com/) uses in his cars. I couldn't find any pictures on the website though.

[OldStroppeTeam]

I cut apart stock Ford sliders and welded brackets on for my seats...works fine, hasn't broken yet......

[wrightracing.net]

Hey I am a big guy and I had some of the masterCraft aluminum ones on my prerunner. They did break and mess up my seats. I took the seat into Mastercraft and Robby beefed up all the seat frame and he gave me some all steel sliders. I have not installed them yet but plan to use them in the new Class 3 Project I am working on for next race season.

[Curtis Guise]

I have been wanting to build sliders for my seats for awhile. Anyone know where you get the T handle pins like the ones on Cam's car? I am assuming they are spring loaded?
http://www.race-dezert.com/skunkz/rps/20.jpg

[WoodyW]

Mcmaster-Carr for all sorts of spring loaded pins etc...tons of them

[ffjerm]

Assuming you've got a good belt system (4 or 5 point) holding you in, the seat doesn't require a hellatiously strong mount. It's more to provide a place for your butt. Good quality seat sliders are plenty strong - if you crash hard enough to tear / break a 4 or 5-point the least of your worries will be a seat slider.

Aloha

not always true. let's say it's a roll-over where the car lands hard on the rear cage. if the seat slider failed, it would allow the seat to move backwards, causing the belts to loosen. not a good thing. i'm not saying that sliders cannot be used, we have them in the class 1. But I'd would be sure that what I used was plenty strong, and I wouldn't rely on the belts to hold the seat in.

[TUBETECK]

Check with Laser innovations. 1/4" thick CHromo seat slider that are welded in. 50.00 bones for the pair. And put the cooler in the back of the truck before it becomes a misslie and is the last thing that goes through your mind before you die.

[movindirt]

Check with Laser innovations. 1/4" thick CHromo seat slider that are welded in. 50.00 bones for the pair. And put the cooler in the back of the truck before it becomes a misslie and is the last thing that goes through your mind before you die.

Can you provide contact info for Laser innovations?

[ntsqd]

I have been wanting to build sliders for my seats for awhile. Anyone know where you get the T handle pins like the ones on Cam's car? I am assuming they are spring loaded?
http://www.race-dezert.com/skunkz/rps/20.jpg
Search:
Austin Hardware
All American Products
Jergens
Carr-Lane
Reid Tool
Should be able to find a large selection from those.

[steveG]

Pete Albano's sliders:

[ntsqd]

That looks to be one of the expanding type pins. Those would be an even better bet for locking the seat in place w/ no movement.

[MadMike1111]

Mcmaster-Carr for all sorts of spring loaded pins etc...tons of them

I don't see them on McMaster anymore, does anyone have a link or know where to get them nowadays? I really want to do that style seat slider pin. I don't want to fabricate one if I don't have to.

[WoodyW]

Look under "spring plunger" in the Machining and Clamping section. Tons of them in all different sizes and depths of reach...if you want that exact T handle you may have to buy the knob seperately as I only see round knurled and plastic knobs...they are on there...

[baja booie]

give these a look i use them in my prerunner with no problems
http://www.racing-seats-usa.com/493.html

[properprerunner]

Look up McMaster Carr, part description and numbers below

Weld-In Pull Pins

Also known as pop pins and clamp pins, these spring-loaded pins have a barrel that you weld in place so the pin can't fall out. Pull the knob to retract the pin; release it and the pin springs back to the extended position. Locking pins lock in the retracted position with a quarter turn of the knob. All pins have a diameter tolerance of ±0.010" and are not rated for shear strength.
Choose from pins with a threaded shank to which you can add the knob or handle of your choice (see pages 2154-2162), a T-handle, and a ball handle. T- and ball handles are black plastic and have a temp. range of 0° to 165° F. Pins with threaded shank have a 3/8"-16 threaded stud with class 2A thread fit.
18-8 stainless steel pins offer the most corrosion resistance and may be mildly magnetic.
Zinc-plated steel pins are made from 12L14 or C1038 steel and have good rust resistance.
With Threaded Shank

With T-Handle


With Ball Handle


NONLOCKING
LOCKING

Pin Usable Barrel
W/ Threaded Shank With T-Handle With Ball Handle With T-Handle With Ball Handle
Dia. Lg. Dia. Lg. Each Each Each Each Each

18-8 Stainless Steel
3/8" 9/16" 1" 1 1/2" 91712A556 $19.23
91712A101 $20.68
91712A222 $20.68
91712A335 $23.53
91712A443 $23.53

1/2" 9/16" 1" 1 1/2" 91712A564 19.23
91712A119 20.61
91712A240 20.61
91712A351 23.53
91712A461 23.53

1/2" 9/16" 1" 2 1/4" 91712A580 21.63
91712A155 23.88
91712A276 23.88
91712A383 26.46
91712A497 26.46

Zinc-Plated Steel
3/8" 9/16" 1" 1 1/2" 90222A742 7.90
90222A112† 8.91
90222A415† 8.28
90222A503 13.22
90222A625 13.31

3/8" 5/8" 1" 3" _______ ___
_______ ___
90222A423 11.72
_______ ___
_______ ___

1/2" 9/16" 1" 1 1/2" 90222A760 9.25
90222A116† 8.91
90222A419† 8.28
90222A518 14.59
90222A643 14.69

1/2" 9/16" 1" 2 1/4" 90222A796 11.19
90222A118† 12.66
_______ ___
90222A548 16.73
90222A679 16.73

† Usable length is 5/8". Barrel length is 3".

[dirtdudeaz]

Pete Albano's sliders:


I worked on a truck that I fabricated something pretty similar. Make sure you check two and three times when doing every step to make sure everything is square and pretty exact.

I see some people using jeep sliders and those break in a hurry. Making your own, you can make them as stout as you want. If you want to adjust for different height people, incline the bars up.

[Mean Dean]

In most circle-track and road-race venues (SCCA, etc.) seat sliders are allowed; however the head rest has to be firmly attached (bolted) to the roll cage. Most road racers fabricate a tube-in-tube (small tube sliding inside a larger tube) adapter between the head rest and the roll cage with multiple holes drilled to match the notches in the seat slider - each time the seat is adjusted the bolt through the tube needs to be re-located to match the new location of the seat.