Dircks and Porter Racing joins forces with Robby G

[PORTER TT#22]

Dircks and Porter Racing joins forces with Robby Gordon Racing <font color="yellow"> </font color>

[mgobaja]

Which truck, Which Races, Why ?

[John_Bitting]

Mark will you guys be changing over to a chevy body and motor? Will you be running BFGs instead of goodyears? Will you be switching to a Robby shock? These are things I meant to ask you on the phone today and ran out of time.

[PORTER TT#22]

We definitley will be running "GoodYears",Gordon Body and wheels,our set-up for now. <font color="yellow"> </font color>

[Brian Mapes]

Thats cool, but even though I am a chevy guy I really like the 04 body you got one there now.

[Andrew_Neal]

so is robby just sponsering u guys now or is he going to drive the truck at all?

[transformed]

why?

[PORTER TT#22]

Why not? http://www.race-dezert.com/vb3/attachments/old/images/graemlins/cool.gif <font color="yellow"> </font color> http://www.race-dezert.com/vb3/attachments/old/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[MikeLeung]

Come on Gary...you got to give us a little more info then that. Which truck are you guys gonna drive and what races?

[PORTER TT#22]

We are going to run our truck and Robby is running his,individual races and sometimes the same,It's about making sponsors happy,and having fun. <font color="yellow"> </font color>

[tkr]

I don't get it. If you're running your own trucks, in seperate races...or even the same race for that matter...how are you joining forces??

[Bryan_D]

Well since Robby isnt allowed to run BITD and you are his/your sponsors should be happy to get the exposure. Hopefully I will see you at the gym Mark and wel can talk. Congrats either way.

[JrSyko]

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Well since Robby isnt allowed to run BITD

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Why isn't he allowed to run there? Did I miss something?

[Rufrider]

What the heck...this is like pulling teeth...dont release the info if you cant provide all the facts..

[Rufrider]

it all has to do with NBC coming into the picture.

[Bryan_D]

What I though was since Robby got caught running after his car on the course with a chase car that Casey told him that he wasnt allowed to race with them anymore or atleast for some time.

[Tom_Willis]

We now return to our soap opera, "as the off-road world turns". In our last episode, our resident bad-boy http://www.race-dezert.com/vb3/attachments/old/images/graemlins/cool.gif got caught being where he wasn't supposed to be. The evil government agents : http://www.race-dezert.com/vb3/attachments/old/images/graemlins/frown.gif didn't want anybody to have fun so they threatened the kind race promoter http://www.race-dezert.com/vb3/attachments/old/images/graemlins/smile.gif and told him to enforce unneccessary rules so the rocks and boulders would not be harmed.

[PORTER TT#22]

O.K.,We will set some facts straight.
Gary and I had Dinner Fri.nite with B.I.T.D. (Casey and Dianne).Robby is welcome at all B.I.T.D. Races,NBC is going to air B.I.T.D Races,No matter who is in the Race,and at Terribles Town we will show up with our new body and wheels,and Gordon Racing Logos,and maybe Robby.

[Kritter]

so why are you running the RG body and wheels? Is RG paying you to run it? Where does the "joining forces" come in at? Whats in it for Robby?

[deleted]

Guys, quit complaning so much about them not giving you all the info. Gary and Mark are smart guys, they will tell you what they can tell you, for some reason they might not want to say all the details. There are times when you are dealing with sponsors and high profile people like Robby, you just dont give all the details. I am sure they have a reason why. I bet you could come to Terribles Town and find out the details. Dont lose sleep over it.

[PORTER TT#22]

Well said Matt,Thank's for the words
Dircks and Porter Racing #23 <font color="yellow"> </font color>

[PLS]

Since Robby Gordon has a business that manufactures and sells items to the off-road/race industry, it makes sense for them to hook up with a top notch team just like any other sponsor. This company just happens to have a big name, high profile person associated with it.

[Bryan_D]

Sorry for posting the partials. I thought that is what I had heard and apologize for any untruths. Just what I thought I had heard.
As for the D&amp;P team more power to you and am glad to see you guys taking off! http://www.race-dezert.com/vb3/attachments/old/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[transformed]

im just bummed that you are switching over to Chevy http://www.race-dezert.com/vb3/attachments/old/images/graemlins/frown.gif , but we wont get into that discussion.

[JBO]

Maybe they are switching over to chevy since they lost their front clip in San Felipe, and got free RG body panels... http://www.race-dezert.com/vb3/attachments/old/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[johnnyweb]

well the chevy doesnt seam to have done robby much good lately.

[obr184]

Have D&amp;P got a website??

[BurnIndustires]

My only question, when you say you will be running your set-up.. is this still your motor which has done you all plenty well this year? Or is it Richard Childress Racing horspower?

[ACID_RAIN28]

I would say lack of power childress motor.

[shrek]

Re:I would say lack of power childress motor.

You must not have heard or seen Robby at Laughlin...............that was a rowdy engine!!!!

Shrek

[partybarge_pilot]

Nothing wrong with Robby engine, just the tranny. All that Childress power is just killen the poor TH400's.

[transformed]

power certainly wasnt the issue for Robby it was the reliability,then again he does drive a chevy, but i dont want to get into that one http://www.race-dezert.com/vb3/attachments/old/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Mark_Weyhrich]

I am curious; did they change the rule regarding the engine and body style matching up? The original rules stated that whatever body style you had, you were required to have an engine based upon that same manufacturer's equipment. You may want to check with Sal and Casey to be sure you are not in danger of being disqualified.

[frankh]

Well I heard at Laughlin, They (SCORE) were not going to let Mike Jacobson entry because of that. When we saw mike at contingency he was pissed and said that he was waiting for Sal to come over because they asked if Robby entered and they said yes. Then they replied that he has the same problem. So then I guess Sal can up and said they changed the rule and they could enter. This is just what I heard. I was not there to see it happen.

I’m sure party barge can give us the straight scoop.

[PORTER TT#22]

Hey Mark,I'm sure it wont be a problem unless we win right? <font color="yellow"> </font color>

[partybarge_pilot]

The motor body rule is a load of crap. There isn't a GM made part in our motor. I'm pretty sure only team with OEM parts is Enduro. Once you spend enough money on a motor there all about the same thing. Just some have a little different port arangment. BFD this is an unlimited class right?

What it boils down to is if your going to run the whole series and make a good showing your in. If you rember Robby's old truck was originally a toyota, same body different grill. Also correct Me if I'm wrong but I think the Herbst now have a GM based BB in there truck too.

[PORTER TT#22]

Good comments,Pretty sure that it would be hard to find an "unlimited Trick/Trophy" truck that is running a C-6 behind there Ford power.....Right? <font color="yellow"> </font color>

[Mark_Weyhrich]

Unfortunately, you are probably right. It is pretty typical that no one speaks up until after the checkers have dropped and all they see is your rear bumper. I was just hoping you guys had called someone to check the rule out before you put yourselves in a potentially damaging situation, without even knowing it.

Personally, I don't care. I do not think one is faster than the other and I believe it is a matter of personal preference. To that degree, I do not believe Sal or Casey care about the performance issue.

I think Sal and Casey's concern would be of a marketing nature and protecting the integrity of the manufacturers. If a TT w/a Chevy body and a Ford engine wins an event, who gets to advertise for it. Worse yet, what if Chevy starts advertising, because they don't know any better, and word gets out that it was a Ford power plant in the truck? There could be a lot of embarrasment.

Again, these are only speculations on my part, but they make sense. Especially when someone like Robby, who has factory ties in concerned.

[Ramsey_ElWardani]

Transmissions have always been open, in fact everything in SCORE Trophy Truck rules is open except: CR23 (Engine must be same manufacturer as represented by the body.) CR48 (Must maintain a production appearing body. Stock grill and headlight opening must be retained. Body subject to SCORE approval) per the 2003 - 2006 Rule Book. The reality is that, as with all classes at SCORE, the Rule Book is what you might call "guidelines" and subject to random and lose enforcement based on lunar positioning and someone’s menstrual cycle. This in my opinion is the greatest downfall of our sport.

[hoeker]

This is the same as in CORR, and if you think about it, it needs to be kept matching for the good of the sport. changing a 2-5,000$ body style is easy when compared to changing a 25-50,000$ engine. if they don't have to match anybody that wins races can just run the body of whoever pays the most contingency. that, in the long run, will not be good for our sport.

in regards to the rule book interpretations, wow! i hope that's not what's happening over there.

[partybarge_pilot]

If We were getting factory sponsership on doing advertising for them it would be a different story. We'll cross that bridge when We get to it.

[MikeLeung]

The manufacturer of the motor becomes a big deal if you run BITD. With the Ford contingency, I believe u have to run a Ford engine, in addition to the Ford body and sticker.

[Dave_G]

RE:". Also correct Me if I'm wrong but I think the Herbst now have a GM based BB in there truck too. "

Nope. Their both Ford motors.



Dave

[mccallumracing]

mark; i agree with you it definately makes sense.

[johnnyweb]

re: herbsts, they're both ford motors. they both run ford transmissions as well. from what i know about them anyway. does any body know the reason more teams use t400 v's c6 tran's? i always thought c6's were strong trans's. i know t400 have a large a/m following and are cheaper to build. we run the stock mini 7300 class w/bitd and we have to keep the stock transmision that came with our truck and it is definently the weak link. i fell the body and motor should remain the same. it makes for good rivalry.

[Josh_K]

Johnny, umm, you might wont to do a little back ground investigating as to what type of this or that you say some one is using before you type it and post.

That guy Dave_G that you responded to hand made the Herbts transmissions....There not c-6's.

Josh

[PORTER TT#22]

WoW!!!!!I now let's set some more items straight.
1)Almost every Trick/Trophy team is running a custom engine Set-up in ,If you want one like our's,you can buy an all aluminum custom Package from Leon Patton,No way,shape or form Purchasable from Ford or Chevrolet,so we are as legal as eveyone else.
2)I'm sure if you do your research you will also find the transmissions in some other <font color="yellow"> </font color> rigs are totally custom made and also not purchasable thru your friendly local dealer.

[johnnyweb]

dalton, i think you should read my post a few more times and you might comprehend it better. i never said they used a c6 trans nor did i say i was sure of it. as far as i know there tranny's are custom items that are experimental alot of the time. but i thought they were based on ford parts. but as i said in my original post "i dont know for sure" could some one give me some information rather than misinterpret my post and bash me?

[Josh_K]

OoooKayyy, sorry that I wrote it to where it pissed you off. I didn't mean to bash you.

It's not my job to straiten you or any one else out if your facts are wrong and frankly I could care less any way.

Josh

[Josh_K]

Ok I has a race dezert addiction I will try my best not to upset any one...

[Jimmy8]

First of all, Gary and Mark are both a class act and 2 really great guys. Funny story behind the first time I met them too, lets just say shade mission pre-running. Anyways, C-6 in a Trophy Truck, we have ran ours (Done by Mogi) through 750 hp without ever having any problems. Our new truck we will be running a C-6 behind it as well, and pushing 800 HP.

On the Chevy/Ford subject, as a competitor I am not going to worry about it, let the sanctioning body do it. I can say that if I was going to run a Land Rover or Lincoln Trophy Truck, I would expect to be able to run a 351 based engine in it being that they are both owned by Ford. 2nd, I will say the Body matching the motor rule is policed. If it wasn't, the Kia Trophy Truck would have just dropped an all aluminum Ford or Chevy in the thing and it would have been over with. Third, true none of us are running anything comparable to a stock motor, but when push comes to shove in deciding what is Ford or what is Chevy I believe the sanctioning bodies will bring distributor placement into the picture.

Good luck on the rest of the year Gary and Mark, and glad to hear you are staying loyal to Goodyear. Can't wait until my new ride gets done to give you a run for your money. Have a good one.

[ab7fh]

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I am curious; did they change the rule regarding the engine and body style matching up? The original rules stated that whatever body style you had, you were required to have an engine based upon that same manufacturer's equipment. You may want to check with Sal and Casey to be sure you are not in danger of being disqualified.

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Has anyone checked the new rules for 2004 BITDS season on the BITD web site? I think that you can run anything that you want now. It says that it is an unlimited class and that unlimited means unlimited. Call Casey he will set the record straight. 1-702-457-5775

[PORTER TT#22]

Hey jimmy good hearing from you. We are waiting for this new trophy truck truck of yours. Hope is as good as it sounds. Look forward to seeing it. We certainly did not know that this would start so much talk. Robby, Mark and myself are looking forward to Terrible Town 250. See ya all there
P.S. We are legal

[IDRA_CRB]

The SCORE Trophy Truck matching engine rule is left over from the days when the manufacturer was required to be a member of the Trophy Truck Series.

The following is from Deke Holgate’s press notes from the first TT race:

SCORE Parker 400 – January 1994

“Vehicle and tire manufacturers involved must be members of the Trophy Truck Advisory Council, for which they pay an initiation fee used to cover the expenses created by existence of the new class. Membership allows each manufacturer to be represented by an unlimited number of competitors. Currently, the council is comprised of four vehicle manufacturers – Chevrolet, Chrysler (Dodge &amp; Jeep), Ford and Toyota – and two tire companies – BF Goodrich and Goodyear.

Rules for the conduct of Tecate SCORE Trophy Truck racing permits aerial surveillance by the teams, satellite-aided navigation and other expensive racing aids out of the reach of competitors in other classes. At the same time Trophy Trucks are subjected to a mandatory NASCAR-style pit stop in a particular area that can be covered conveniently by TV cameras. Other pit stops are permitted, but during the mandatory stop four tires must be changed, and the number of crewmen attending the car “over-the-wall” is restricted.”


Reese

[FABRICATOR]

So where are we now? It would'nt be fair to put a Chevy engine in a Ford...

[Brian Mapes]

Why wouldnt it be fair, both blocks are totally custom pieces that are just based on a ford or chevy. Correct me if im wrong but there isnt any ford or chevy parts on them at all. Same with transmissions, like Herbst, I am pretty sure they use their own trans that is custom designed for them only and has no affiliation with ford at all, from parts to design. Just my opinion, but you should be able to run any engine with any body combo in TT, it is an unlimited class where the rules should be unlimited.

[MattStankavich]

Yeah cuse we just want to alienate all the Factories right, who needs facotry support with all these deep pockets. Come to think of it who needs T.V. coverage and potential sponsors. Why is it that NASCAR is successful again? Oh thats right cuse the common person can relate (supposedly) to the cars that are being raced!

[FABRICATOR]

We all know (I hope) that various parts are custom made throughout the drive train and everywhere else. There is a good need to do this. Many OEM parts or designs would never obtain much speed and/or hold up. However engines, most all transmissions, and even differentials are still closely based on a manufactrurers original design. Even the Scat V4 is based on an original design, minus a few cylinders. I don't know of any aftermarket designed engine. I also don't know of any other proffessional form of racing where you would find a Ford engine in a Chevy body or any other mismatched engine/body combination other than perhaps a blown Hemi. IMHO the whole concept is terrible from many angles. It makes a joke out of wining or even just advertising whether you have an engine or body sponsor or not. If the engine and body don't match then why have any body affilliation at all. If that does not matter then why aren't they together with Class 1? RG is good PR to any race and its hard to say go home kid. But to continue on with that is not good. I can't think of a more surefire way to keep any OEMs from sponsoring or even participating. To let other makes of tranmissions or differentials be mixed up is up to the promoter. But letting the engines go is just giving in and giving up.

The only upside is that other makes that would never stand a chance could compete. But then what good would it do and why would they do it?

[thunderwolf]

At the last Laughlin race and the Parker race it sounded to me like the Herbst's were running a manual transmission.

[Brian Mapes]

To Matt, I am not saying eliminate completely or at all. I can totally understand and see where you are coming from but a TT is also a lot different than NASCAR. To me NASCAR is more like a protruck, there is very strict specs on the chassis, body, engine, and every other part of the car, but when talking about an unlimited truck then it should be just that. Dont get me wrong, this sport would not be what it is today if it werent for the sponsors, one of them being ford, I think that is why so many people race fords, cuz of the contingency money, but it shouldnt matter as much in an unlimited class. That is my opinion.

[ACID_RAIN28]

Do a search on the tranny, it is a manual, sequintial shift 6- speed gear box similar to a formula one, push button i believe.

Several post later but as to the robby motor, i did see him at laughlin, and I got my info from an up an coming TT team, the childress motor dosn't have as much bang as the Patton motor, yes he did run those motors for years, I have also see bot motors, patton and childress at the glamis jump and before I even new of the change i could tell something was up, not as near on the distance, but as the old saying goes it is not good, and it is not bad, it is FREE, and that is mainly why he ran the childress motor.

[Brian Mapes]

Fabricator, in my post above yours I said that I thought that most of the TT's blocks were based off a Ford or Chevy but are totally custom built. I dont know how it makes a joke out of winning just because you are running a different body style than engine, I can see where you are coming from with advertisement though cuz obviously that would not work. To say they should just be in class one doesnt make sense because a lot of people look at the trucks and think "Hey that truck looks like mine, maybe I could do that to my truck" with a class one there is no production shaped body to RESEMBLE that of the everyday persons. I dont know, Im just rambling on. So what engine are Dircks and Porter going to be running then???

[partybarge_pilot]

Don't even get Me started on asscar. When was the last time you saw a 2 door rear wheel drive pushrod V-8 taurus? If they can market that to the hillbilys they can market a dart block in a TT.

[Brian Mapes]

Hahaha.

[PORTER TT#22]

We are running a totally custom,all Aluminum Patton Racing engine,442 cubic In.With a Turbo 400.Nothing to hide hear,Just realize we are as legal as every other "Unlimited Trophy/Trick Truck".It may be a Ford,and it may be a Chevy,If you can talk to Patton,ask him his opinion. <font color="yellow"> </font color>

[ACID_RAIN28]

To me it dosen't matter what motor is under the hood, if the truck works and I get to go fast and race, who cares. Like it was said earlier the rule was designed more for when the factorys were in the game, now it will give both chevy and ford guys something to root for, "ahh the chevy couldn't do it so they had to put an oval bullet in it", or "ooo the ford couldn't do it so they disquised it as a chevy."

Mark and Gary, best of luck to you guys at the TT250, I will be rooting for you and Taylor that race, you guys had a stelar begining performance this year, keep it up!!

[tedmales]

partybarge_pilot , better ba carefull what you say about asscar, on another dezert website they almost cried when someone talked bad about one of the drivers, so be carefull, you might get wads of chew and beast cans thrown at you at the next race.

[FABRICATOR]

Well, let’s at least clear the dust and keep the engines straight for the young and/or the uninitiated. Custom engine? What does that mean? It’s true that the Chevy and Ford small blocks have been around so long that many think they came along naturally like the rocks, trees, cactus, and sky. But they didn’t. They were huge, clean slate engineering efforts by General Motors and Ford. They were extremely successful designs. If anyone thinks Rodeck, Dart, World, Keith Black, or anyone else does much beyond adding some beef here and there, ever so slightly modifying the cooling or oiling passages, or raising the cam to make room for a longer stroke, they are dreaming. Those companies contribute no more than 5% of the design work in the blocks they make. Heads are the same situation. Compare the latest aftermarket racing cylinder head to a 1969 Boss 302 or Z-28 stock head. 18 degrees instead of 23, slightly raised ports, CNC porting instead of hand porting.

It’s no coincidence that a bone stock Chevy crank, rods, cam, timing gears, oil pan, heads, manifolds, water pump, transmission, mounts, etc., etc., will bolt right on to the latest aftermarket blocks. This is not for convenience or marketing either. Few aluminum racing small blocks have any original equipment manufacture (OEM) parts in them. Yet all the companies keep the OEM shapes and sizes. They are almost entirely OEM design. Whether one of those custom whazoo aluminum engines is being observed on a stand, under the hood, or through a fender well, they are actually easier to identify then a bone stock original. Just to keep the record straight, those “custom” engines are not based on old OEM designs; they are OEM designs.

[JrSyko]

Geez, I bet you never thought this topic would turn out like this! http://www.race-dezert.com/vb3/attachments/old/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[chuckharrisjr]

hey does anyone know the rule on a korean co-driving in ford? I'm half korean but my dad the driver is american? Maybee if we run a ford body and 2 honda 4-bangers with turbo we wont get DQ'd? any thoughts?.......

[PORTER TT#22]

In response to your "Just to keep the record straight",factor this into your equation,and please read this very carefully,
Score Rule CR23-Engine must be the same manufacturer as represented by the body.I'm not sure,but shed some light please,what does "Manufacture" mean in that phrase.
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[FABRICATOR]

After very careful consideration...if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it's a duck. If you want to twist that around, that's up to you. I don't think you read my post carefully. If CHEVROLET designed that motor, it's a CHEVROLET. Same for FORD or any other OEM. No one else has designed any motors or any major components for one. Please read this carefully: Ford or Chevrolet designed the engines out there just as sure and detailed as they designed the bodys being used out there.

[PORTER TT#22]

I did not say anything about who invented or designed the OEM engines,But now that you mention it,you did not answer my question as to "Engine must be same manufacturer as represented by the body"...Thats all. <font color="yellow"> </font color>

[FABRICATOR]

That's the best answer I can give you. Peace.

[mexracer10]

I might be wrong but i think that most chevorlet engines have the distributor in the rear of the block and most fords have it in the front. You guys correct me on that if i am wrong. But other than that they are the same v8 push rod engines powering monsters through the desert. And to address the manufactuer body matching the engine dose not seem to be a big deal your running a ford body and want to switch to chevy then just change the grill. Most trophy truck bodys vaugly resemble the manufactures body anyway. But it all depends on who you ask that why this post has such a veraity of points of views..

[knucklemeat]

aw,heck.ford ,chevy, it don't matter to me.when i'm mobbin' it in our mini stock ranger,doin' sixty in a ninety zone,they all make the same noise when they "nerf".....BANG! always gets the blood going!

[pciscott]

My only question about the rule that makes a Ford Trophy Truck have to have a Ford motor is the future? If we can run anything without rules what keeps me from adding a turbine motor out of a jet and maybe some wings to go with it. Although there are no manufacturers in our sport at this time, with numbers on the upswing I do not think it far fetched. My opinion is the rule should stand motor and body matching. There may be few rules in Trophy/Trick Truck, but what keeps me from entering a helicopter with a truck body on it at Casey Folks Unlimited Everything Class? Keep it pure!

[Brian Mapes]

When a regular person, not an avid offroader like one of us first looks at a Trophy truck what is the first thing they notice? The way the truck handles through the desert, like a beast, then they notice the body. I have brought people to races and they saw TT's in action and never once asked about engine make but did ask about engine size and HP. So if marketing is concerned then I think that you could market a ford body on chevy engine because the main marketing propably wouldnt be towards just the engine, considering it takes more than an engine to go fast in offroad. It would be nice to have more manufactures in the sport but i dont think that will happen to soon. The rule was written when there was more than just ford in the game, now it is only one. If chevy and dodge and toyota come back then yea, the rule should be in effect in the TT class but for now i think it should be whatever body style with whatever ford or chevy engine you want to run. We all see differently on this subject, obviously so really these same posts will keep coming up so that is my input, i dont really have anymore to say. Good luck to D and P racing next race and hope to see that cool Ford body on there with a nice big CHEVY engine. http://www.race-dezert.com/vb3/attachments/old/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.race-dezert.com/vb3/attachments/old/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Desert_Roller]

Scott, you're on vacation! You can only comment on this subject when you get back home:)))

[1BAJA03]

What about the sponsership $$,$$$ from ROBERTS? Tires,Wheels and a Chevy Skin... I think I would have stayed with ROBERTS. If its not broke don't fix it. Congrads on a good year so far.

[PORTER TT#22]

Donny Roberts is A huge part of Dircks and Porter Racing,As a matter of fact,He is extremely pleased with the <font color="yellow"> </font> team direction.This post was just to announce our teaming up with Robby,and we shall see what Score Ruling is before long.PCI Scott,See you at qualifying at Terribles.

[klaus]

forced induction might actualy keep the cost down on engines...it does on street rockets. I would like to see them in the unlimited classes.

[Desert_Roller]

Klaus, how about one of Gale Banks 1,200 hp twin turbo monsters! The turbo lag should help reduce wheel spin off the line. But does the sport need a 150 mph + TT?

[e_lunatic]

i agree with desert_roller. as dangerous as the sport can be do we really need 150+mph (prolly more) trucks going around w/o walls to keep them away from making you nothing but 2 smoking boots? how'd you like to roll through a "gotcha" at 150? yea you can say "o we'll keep small turbos on the engines" but how long will that last (i.e. how many of you wanted to keep your truck simple and end up with a fire beather w 25'' of travel?)
as for the ford/chevy/custom debate I think it should be regulated ford/ford chevy/chevy ect. it really is the only way to get vehicle companies back into the sport. if we have fords running chevy's and toyotas running nissans would manf's even want to have to go through the trouble of sorting who's running what? although it'd be a great way to unleash my Hemi powered Geo Metro on the world...

[notime]

with all the opinion i only said good luck to you guys on the next races, we hope to see you in the next BITD event in Parhump.

[ACID_RAIN28]

As for a Forced I TT runnig 150+ i don't think that is going to make the truck handle better, so the driver won't be doing 150 through the infield at laughlin.

Has any one else noticed that all of the last "several" reply have been the same content and response, I am kind tired of seeing the same thing said over and over again. Lets all move on to other posts now, unless somthing that is new needs to be said. just my .02c

[JrSyko]

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Has any one else noticed that all of the last "several" reply have been the same content and response, I am kind tired of seeing the same thing said over and over again. Lets all move on to other posts now, unless somthing that is new needs to be said. just my .02c

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Amen!

[Kritter]

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My only question about the rule that makes a Ford Trophy Truck have to have a Ford motor is the future? If we can run anything without rules what keeps me from adding a turbine motor out of a jet and maybe some wings to go with it. Although there are no manufacturers in our sport at this time, with numbers on the upswing I do not think it far fetched. My opinion is the rule should stand motor and body matching. There may be few rules in Trophy/Trick Truck, but what keeps me from entering a helicopter with a truck body on it at Casey Folks Unlimited Everything Class? Keep it pure!

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amen...

[JeffS]

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Has any one else noticed that all of the last "several" reply have been the same content and response, I am kind tired of seeing the same thing said over and over again. Lets all move on to other posts now, unless somthing that is new needs to be said. just my .02c

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Amen!

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[Bryan_D]

Well Hallelujah and Praise the Lord with all of this. Congrats, we should all be happy that the sport is progressing and that if RG wants to add to the stable of teammates than so be it. Why discourage be happy. Once again D&amp;P congrats and to all the others that are taking the sport in the correct direction. http://www.race-dezert.com/vb3/attachments/old/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[havahockey]

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[havahockey]

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[Dan McMillin]

I definitely like the new body style on the truck. It looks sweet.
Will Robby Gordon be co-driving with you guys at the Baja 500? His name wasn't entered so I was curious if that was that case or not.
Thanks

[Rams]

Oh, yeah.... love the new 'glass !!
Nice looking truck!

[jeff]

On another note... I'd like to say thanks to the entire Dircks &amp; Porter team for treating me so well on Friday during contigency. Heck, they were even nice to Full Pull and he was looking pretty beat up by late afternoon Friday. Making a long story short... I was offered a place to sit in the shade for a few minutes and even got a nice new t-shirt to boot! Super friendly people that treated every passing stranger with respect and genuine hospitality that was not to be found at some of the other team camps. Thanks again and good luck!

Aloha

[bpthirteen]

Dircks and Porter need to be careful where they land their helicopter. http://www.race-dezert.com/vb3/attachments/old/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[motoxscott]

Yea Mark and everyone over there was super cool and friendly. Even though I'm a FORD fan, that new Chevy front end looked awesome.

- Scott

[Steve_HKmtrsprts]

I third how nice the Dircks team were. They offered us food and a place to hang out during Contingency.

[Andrew_Neal]

wow the truck looks really good now. definitly my favorite truck. good to hear they are good people too that makes all the difference in motorsports. keep up the good work.

[R_TAYLOR]

hey tt driver. I was gioing to trade trucks with you for a race but I am a ford man too.

[Bryan_D]

I am sure that Mark and Gary appreciate the great feedback. As far as the Baja race I will let Mark talk to you about the whole deal, but this truck wont be racing but they will.
What did we do with the helicopter that was so bad? And which one there were 3 at this race?

[GSPEED]

Are you guys going to run the whiplash race in rocky point this coming weekend?

or is to much of the equipment abused after this last race

[obr184]

you had 3 helicopters..........................3!!!!!!!!!!!! ! y did you have 3?

[Dan McMillin]

So whats part of the deal with being a part of Team Robby Gordon? Will you co-drive together or anything?

[Bryan_D]

Sponsors. They get the next best seat in the house.

[Bryan_D]

Hey did anyone catch a glimpse of the nice RDC sticker on the front skid and also the rear? Looked really nice there. http://www.race-dezert.com/vb3/attachments/old/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Dan McMillin]

Will they only have sponsers or will there be any co-driving of any sort?

[obr184]

who or what is donnie roberts??

[MikeLeung]

He owns Chas Roberts Air Conditioning...there a large AC Contractor in AZ. Dircks truck was originnaly built by Geisers Bros for Donny...but he sold it

[John_Bitting]

AC contractor in AZ?? Damn he must be rich. Talk about supply and demand.

[Bryan_D]

Actually he doesnt own Chas Roberts AC. He has his own companies, but Chas was his dad as far as I know. But yes that was the truck prior to D&amp;P.