Just read your post about litigation fears.
Did you know that many park ride trains are now shut down due to insurance costs being prohibitive?
Here's a neat one in Safford, idled by such:
Certainly they shouldn't have been where they were, no more so than the ESPN cameraman killed at Barstow several years back.
I wonder how that was resolved: did Walker Evans Enterprises and Toyota Motor Company, etc., as well as SCORE face claims, or would that have been covered under some worker's comp process?
Thanks for the long and thoughtful reply, Donny. I don't what to say offhand, but, "I am what I am." I don't race anymore, nor plan to, so I can say what I think without worrying about a ride or sponsorship or popularity.
Most dogs and folks that meet me, like me, I usually don't like the ones that don't. C'est la vie.
I figure if I can get even just one racer, or future racer, to think about the possible consequences of their actions, and act accordingly, it will be worth whatever flack I take.
When I was racing, in a V-8 unlimited car, I never flew over jumps like the Anthill where I couldn't see the landing; still, I won races and ran at 50+ MPH averages, and would have been faster if we had a bigger budget (I was always sweating the tranny).
Here's a question I thought of a little while ago:
If the spectators are solely to blame, how come the earlier vehicles didn't hit them?
In the same fashion that I always thought I was right...I took what you had to say, thought about where I could be wrong and what I could do to improve myself and my interractions....maybe you're willing to take my advice here and take a look at how it is YOU post and present yourself. I only say this to help you better yourself, as you did for me.
Think of it this way: you know how they always say the old, white Republicans are so "out-of-touch"? That's how you come across to people who aren't accustomed to your methods. I am not "throwing you under the bus" or turning my back on you...but like with the gays thing, I do not agree that there is "blame to go around". I cannot fault MDR or Sloppy for what those individuals chose to do, and that's where I stand!
Nothin but love for ya buddy, even when we disagree.
It's nothing personal dude, I hope you know I like you...and I will support what's right, but I cannot hold ANYONE accountable for the ACCIDENT at MDR other than the people who were standing on the race course... If THEY (those who were injured/died) had CHOSEN to spectate from a safe distance, this wouldn't have ever been talked about, other than "Sloppy's epic crash".
I personally can take the "logic" you deal in, because not only am I used to it, but you helped me understand it...but it alienates others. I mean, if we were discussing quantum physics and nuclear fission, I would expect the level of conversation to be of the highest intellect....but man, it's an off road racing forum. It's viewed as condescending in many instances. I have respect and admiration for you, but your techniques of interracting with others could be, well, simplified a little.
If one posts an illogical statement, one has posted illogically, whether I call one on it or not.
If one thinks logic is foolish, I would think one a fool.
I don't really think you are a fool, Donny, though we often disagree politically.
Earlier in this MDR thread you supported me, now you appear to have changed your position.
Appears to be rather "turncoat", what caused you to do that?
Am I giving you too much grief in Purple?
Hey, Donnie! Since you were so effective at getting Carlos to reopen the thread, will you please see if you can convince Shaggy to return to Purple.
I miss his posts and perspectives.
Thanks in advance!
"You totally cherry picked his post and found the one part you could nitpick and make Carlos look stoopid, because he couldn't provide your 'scientific data' (disagree with me all you want DD, what you asked for was scientific) and after that you tried your best to discount his position because he couldn't provide you with what you knew he couldn't provide."
Again, your assessment, not backed by logic or reason, but instead by your emotional state and misinterpretation. It was not "scientific," but mathmatic. BTW: "biased" is not a synonym for "stoopid."
"Stop being such a d**k. (some) People here like you, but stop being such a ball-buster for no reason."
Duck? You're the quack, you can't even come up with a correct diagnosis (reason) for my position.
"DD, this right here (IMO) is what bothers people."
I am not responsible for your, or others', emotional reactions. We are each individually responsible for our own emotions.
"You guys were going back and forth, ...and when he interjects with his opinion...you totally get off the subject of sequestration and ask him to provide specifics that you know he can't present. Iinstead of just agreeing with him, (again, I'm sure you do agree with him that most gov't employees are overpaid for their intellignece levels....Oh, and you kind of admitted YOU DO agree, because you said unless he has a degree in the field, he's not qualified even if he has an IQ of 160), you went off and got all, well, scientific!!"
No, I do not agree with someone that has gone on to state he can learn everything he needs to know via Rush. Nor does my stating one of the requirements to be a SW show my support for his position.