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August 22nd, 2012, 11:59
#241
Ace Mechanic
Re: Class 6100 rules are out on BITD
vapor lock.... there is no such thing on an EFI engine. Do you have any idea what temp fuel will have to be at to vaporize at 36psi??? WAY OVER 300F....

Originally Posted by
Mark_Miller
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Originally Posted by
TT#54
Dicks.
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August 22nd, 2012 11:59
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August 22nd, 2012, 12:12
#242
Re: Class 6100 rules are out on BITD

Originally Posted by
FlyHiFlyLo
vapor lock.... there is no such thing on an EFI engine. Do you have any idea what temp fuel will have to be at to vaporize at 36psi??? WAY OVER 300F....
So in my case where I was simply cooling my fuel pump you think it was the pump over heating and not working?
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August 22nd, 2012, 12:14
#243
Ace Mechanic
Re: Class 6100 rules are out on BITD
Here Jerry I will throw you a few bones here.
#1 make sure the return line from your regulator is one size SMALLER than your pressure line. If the line is the same size it may work MOST of the time. But you need to take in account for the fuel displaced in the rails and consumed by the engine. Otherwise what happens to the void in the return line? yeah that's right it will suck air from the tank to displace it.
#2 Something you didn't listen to.... Use the bypass side of the regulator as your return line. You have your crap is backwards according to how you discribed it..
#3 USE Pump gas.... that engine is designed and mapped for PUMP gas. Yeah Ethanol and all.

Originally Posted by
Mark_Miller
what a dick


Originally Posted by
TT#54
Dicks.
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August 22nd, 2012, 12:16
#244
Ace Mechanic
Re: Class 6100 rules are out on BITD

Originally Posted by
sirhk100
So in my case where I was simply cooling my fuel pump you think it was the pump over heating and not working?
take an amp reading on it and compare to manufacture specs. If it's pulling too many amps then it could cause the pump to flutter.

Originally Posted by
Mark_Miller
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Originally Posted by
TT#54
Dicks.
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August 22nd, 2012, 12:25
#245
Elite

Originally Posted by
FlyHiFlyLo
vapor lock.... there is no such thing on an EFI engine. Do you have any idea what temp fuel will have to be at to vaporize at 36psi??? WAY OVER 300F....
It boils the fuel before the pump not on the pressure side.
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August 22nd, 2012, 12:55
#246
Elite
Re: Class 6100 rules are out on BITD
It boils in the tank and before the pumps. It also can boil in the return line. You should be able to hear the pumps cavitation.
I don't know if it is class legal or not, but maybe if somebody searches for "vapor lock" and "fuel injection" they will get a good answer here. We fixed the problem by modifying a fitting on the fuel rail to get "flow through" and regulating on the back side rather than keeping the dead end system. But, again, different rules. . .Just getting an air gap around the cell and getting it out of direct sunlight helps. It is really only an issue at V2R.
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August 22nd, 2012, 12:57
#247
Ace Mechanic
Re: Class 6100 rules are out on BITD

Originally Posted by
RobertM
It boils the fuel before the pump not on the pressure side.
Vapor rises...

Originally Posted by
Mark_Miller
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Originally Posted by
TT#54
Dicks.
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August 22nd, 2012, 12:58
#248
Ace Mechanic
Re: Class 6100 rules are out on BITD

Originally Posted by
OldGreen
We fixed the problem by modifying a fitting on the fuel rail to get "flow through" and regulating on the back side rather than keeping the dead end system.
Exactly.
make it a loop.

Originally Posted by
Mark_Miller
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Originally Posted by
TT#54
Dicks.
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August 22nd, 2012, 13:02
#249
Re: Class 6100 rules are out on BITD

Originally Posted by
FlyHiFlyLo
vapor lock.... there is no such thing on an EFI engine. Do you have any idea what temp fuel will have to be at to vaporize at 36psi??? WAY OVER 300F....
RG had Vapor lock during qualifying....
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August 22nd, 2012, 13:14
#250
Forum Junkie
Re: Class 6100 rules are out on BITD
If I'm not mistake the fuel enter rear of one rail, crosses over at front, thru other rail, exits at rear. there's a regulator on the exit right ? I'd have to check with Jason at shop to confirm..
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