Class 5 only

[frostbite36]

Stock specs on 16V ABF...found in Mk3 Golf/GTI...not too impressive stock.

2.0 16V 1984 cc 4cyl Petrol 150 PS (110 kW; 148 hp) @6000 rpm 180 N·m (130 lb·ft) @4600 rpm ABF 8.1 215 km/h (134 mph) 1993−1997

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[frostbite36]

Now the VR6 engine...that is a much more impressive VW stock powerplant!!

2.8 VR6 2002.5–2005 VR6 24V AQP/AUE/BDE 2792 cc 150 kW (204 PS; 201 hp) @ 6000 rpm 270 N·m (200 lb·ft) @ 3200 rpm

[bajabird]

Stu, Nice to see your car all done!!!!!!! When you take it out for a test, let me know; Would like to see it moving.

[wheezy]

Now the VR6 engine...that is a much more impressive VW stock powerplant!!

2.8 VR6 2002.5–2005 VR6 24V AQP/AUE/BDE 2792 cc 150 kW (204 PS; 201 hp) @ 6000 rpm 270 N·m (200 lb·ft) @ 3200 rpm

Too bad it weighs like 500lbs. LOL

[frostbite36]

Too bad it weighs like 500lbs. LOL

VR6 weight is 180 Kg. (~396 lbs) actual weight.

Weight of an Ecotec is around 350lbs for a complete engine as a comparison!!

More info on the VR6 than you'll probably ever need:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR6_engine

http://www.autozine.org/technical_sc..._packaging.htm

I did own a Golf GTI VR6 back in 2004? Very smooth and powerful engine in that stock form...don't have any quantitiative reliability info though. My personal experience is the engine NEVER gave me a problem...that doesn't mean I'm gonna have one in an off road race car though...

[zackpunx]

Some day I'll finish it

[ksmith]

Attachment 117734

Quote: What are the rules concerning this "new" VW 16V motor? ...and the specs? This is the first I have heard about this engine option? Is it already good to go at SCORE (Bill Savage was mentioned)?

According to SCORE Rules ANY 4 cylinder VW water cooled motor is legal. Displacement is open. No limits on CC's or number of valves. The problem is I don't know of any 4 cylinder VW motors that are bigger than 2 liters. To run a stock or fairly stock motor you need at least the 2.4L to push a 5 Unlimited well. If you take a 2.0 L VW tdi motor and bore it or stroke it to 2.4 or bigger then the cost start going up and I'm not interested.

The VR6 motor sounds ok power wise but then your at six cylinder and the 4 cylinder only rule has to be changed

On Another note:

Good conversation going here. I love all the car pics and updates. Pretty cool thread going here!!

[Matt Mead]

Keeping with the theme of people posting pics and stuff. Here is a really crappy video I made in 2007 that has some Class 5 action in it.

[Matt Mead]

OK, it's been a week on the motor survey, and here are the results:



And here is the verification section as requested by Zac to make sure this was a good poll:

I just built a new class 5 w/ type IV. Next race is Sept.
6/6/2012 10:33 PMView Responses
My name is zac reish I race in class 3000. I own a full body 1956 oval window with working doors baja bug with an ecotec. I raced in the 2011 toys for tots race in 3000 and would like to be included in this survey.
6/6/2012 1:30 PMView Responses
Class 5 Unlimited chassis with ecotec power. Race Vorra in Class 1 car #105 Last race Yerington 300 May 27 2012
6/6/2012 9:12 AMView Responses
#517 2012 more 500.
6/6/2012 7:15 AMView Responses
501 Scott Moldenhauer MORE 500
6/6/2012 6:57 AMView Responses
5016 2011 BRT points champ. MINT
6/6/2012 4:42 AMView Responses
#515 2nd year end SNORE points 2010 and 2011...Mint 400 2nd 2011, 1st SNORE 250 2010...
6/4/2012 10:33 PMView Responses
Chris Lazenby 5090 - 2012 MINT 400
6/4/2012 8:39 PMView Responses
#501 CODE Night Race
6/4/2012 8:12 PMView Responses
BITD 5007 RUSCO) Russ Parker. Last race V2R 2008
6/4/2012 2:27 PMView Responses
Precepts #5011
6/4/2012 2:03 PMView Responses
Car 5025 Kevin Heitritter. Last MORE race was Freedom 250 July 2011. .Last win was Season Opener Jan 2011 Planning on Sept 8th MORE race. Got atleast 24K into my T4 from aqusition from FAT @ 14K, Head work @ 3K to many other stuff completed on motor and servicing...just nature of the beast that the things cost what they do to run...wouldnt trade it for anything else
6/4/2012 12:56 AMView Responses
Blah blah blah.... It's wheezy, erreybody know me.
6/4/2012 12:55 AMView Responses
Just built 523 to race more, currently racing more in 926 w/wood
6/4/2012 12:10 AMView Responses
#5099, 2012 Mint 400
6/4/2012 11:58 AMView Responses
507 Antuna Motorsports. 2011 MORE Toys for Tots
6/4/2012 11:53 AMView Responses

[wheezy]

Final result. 11 in favor of NEW engine options. 9 against.