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August 2nd, 2012, 15:57
#1691
Re: Class 5 only
Pete you make a very good point. However, the 5b class will not be a sealed only class. It is open to mods in the engine. must stay 2.5 liters or less and not rev past 7500 rpm. I will probably stay stock so if theres a higher count in 3000 I'll take a stab in that class again. I would say the subaru will probably be the best motor handleing wise and power but I guarantee the ecotec will still be by far the best bang for the buck.
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August 2nd, 2012 15:57
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August 2nd, 2012, 16:02
#1692
Prospect
Re: Class 5 only
Here's a couple pictures of Pete's bump stops taken from when I owned that car. I always liked the concept of them.
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August 2nd, 2012, 16:11
#1693
"PRO PHOTO"
Re: Class 5 only

Originally Posted by
BANNED4LIFE
i cant seem to figure it out....i only see nonsense and bitching.......
Welcome to Race Dezert. I thought you were a regular here.
The difference between perseverance and obstinacy is that one comes from a strong will, and the other from a strong won't.
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August 2nd, 2012, 17:28
#1694
Senior
Re: Class 5 only

Originally Posted by
BANNED4LIFE
btw....what is the new engine option that is going to REVIVE class 5 and have 26+ new entries???? i cant seem to figure it out....i only see nonsense and bitching.......and we in class 3000 made a rule for class 5s to race in, beam cars can be 105.5 with a sealed ecotec.....what could be a cheaper, more reliable, economical, more powerfull per dollar powerplant then that....and its what class 10 and 3000 use so its easy to get tech help and info from all the others that run it?????
Pete: Is this what engine you would run if you still had your class 5? I am on the fence between ecotech and Subie, for the reason you and Zac just stated. Added bonus, could run 3000 BITD if they're not on board with engine option. You're so smart Pete; When I grow up I want to be just like you!
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August 2nd, 2012, 18:38
#1695
Re: Class 5 only

Originally Posted by
rusco
Pete: Is this what engine you would run if you still had your class 5? I am on the fence between ecotech and Subie, for the reason you and Zac just stated. Added bonus, could run 3000 BITD if they're not on board with engine option. You're so smart Pete; When I grow up I want to be just like you!
NO BRAINER....(for me)....ecotec is cheapest, they are bullet proof and the 2.4 has great power, light, parts and accesories READILY available, and when the whole 5b falls apart you can race in 10 OR 3000 ANYWHERE......and the class 5 with an ecotec is very close competitive wise in 3000....i.e. NO BRAINER...
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August 2nd, 2012, 19:07
#1696
Fresh Blood
Re: Class 5 only

Originally Posted by
Crumco
Yes Yes Yes...That's what I'm talking about!! Let's go out there and give each other a run for our money. The only thing we have to worry about is our front beams and everything else attached to them now we have a driving class. Thank for being on board. Would love to run against more T4's like yours. Beautiful hot rod you have there. Let's go race.
Well I can't say I am 100 % on board. I like the original concept of the rule book, but understand that things have financially change for everybody to race and power plants and gearboxes is everyones biggest expenditure. I guess it's the total package and prep that wins races beyond the powerplant. When I decided to run this class I new the motor cost and maintance was something that I needed to commit too financially. We got 2000 + test/race miles out of our last motor so I don't really have any complaints there. So for now I too want to yank my car off the jack stands and get it going again and race more cars. So if it's 5u or 5b it is what it is. I myself would not trade my T4 for anything else...it's awesome ! We are collecting most of the parts I need to try and get it back together for Sept 8 race and well see how this thing all shakes out.
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August 2nd, 2012, 19:43
#1697
Senior
Re: Class 5 only

Originally Posted by
Zac Reish
Not really sure if you want an opinion catagory but it would be beneficial and good competition if class 5 open cars raced against class 3000 cars. Class 5 is the coolest class by far in my opinion but there needs to be some changes made to bring back the competition to the class. These 2 classes are both very close in speed, and the competition and rivalry between the 2 classes could be very excititing. I've talked about this before on a thread and at this point class 3000 racers dont want to race heads up against 5 unlimited big t4 engine race cars. I'm nobody between either class but if I was I would re evaluate the decision. I have a 5 open type car with an ecotec, and would love to be racing against 5 open and 3000just for the reason of having alot of race cars to compete against. Ive talked to a few 5 open racers and they were totally open to racing against cl 3000 when I brought this up but I'm sure there are 5 open racers who arent. i'd just be tired of racing 4 to 6 racers on a regualar basis if i were 5 open.
Funny how this thread started and right out of the gate engine thing got brought up (post #5)

Originally Posted by
QurtysLyn
Wish my Subaru motor was legal in Class 5.

Guess it's sportsman for me.
And......Subaru engine.....

Originally Posted by
Baja Jim
Class 5's are sooooo cool to drive and they get lots of looks! Tom you missed to boat on one bad black 5 car! Having sellers remorse right now. Now that I am moving out of Class 5 I still believe that 5's and 3000's should race together. Let each class keep their points, but race together for bragging rights and get more competition. I truly believe that they are equally matched and neither has a major competitive advantage.
Even Jim Anderson got into 'frey'. Engine option GOOD idea. But let T4's live on!
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August 2nd, 2012, 20:48
#1698
Re: Class 5 only
Uh, Rick- You brought up Seeley and said he stopped racing due to money. I just happen to know that isn't why he originally stopped. As far as who built the car, We both know who started it, who worked on it, and who finished it. That is not in question. And it is for sale. Probably a great buy to the right person. I would like to see Seeley race it at the 1000 this year, but it isn't happening. Too bad. Great car for the Peninsula. Next time you want to accuse someone of gossiping, better delete your original post on the person.
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August 2nd, 2012, 21:18
#1699
Ironman
Re: Class 5 only
7500 RPM limit - how ya gonna police that silly rule?
Ramsey El Wardani
Smarter Than Dirt!
One Man Racing
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August 2nd, 2012, 21:23
#1700
Senior
Re: Class 5 only

Originally Posted by
Ramsey_ElWardani
7500 RPM limit - how ya gonna police that silly rule?
Ha, with a duel map and a switch under the dash.
This won't work at all, 8500 will sound just like 7500.
Cross-threading is just as tight as Loctite