If you had to push the RESET button on classes....

[Bolles]

Most of you all need to re think Class 9.. get past SCORE/BITD entry costs keeping the class out or moving to sportsman thoughts.
MORE/SNORE series the class produces serious entrys.

Here is the entry list for the upcoming MORE race.. far more than any stock full or stock mini, 7-2, 6 and 7 combined.


Class 9
903 Jared Sluder
924 Mike Brown
920 Kurt Davidson Jr.*
959 Harley Young ------------------- R/S
987 Nate Himmelrick*
928 Kyle Vizzo ---------------------- R/S
984 Jorge Ventura* ----------------- R/S
918 Jeff Smithhart*
908 Rick Windust
992 Giti Gowland*
966 Jeff Johnsen
916 Randy Ward*
979 Derek Cudda Eugeno*
909 Eric Ruble
997 Matt Depue --------------------- R/S
986 Greg Goltz*
996 Jimmy Tranto*
911 R Thomas/D Bolles*
976 Rob Mac Donald*
968 Michael*
951 John Whitlow ------------------- R/S
990 Matt Creveling*
949 John Scharf
914 Christopher Dunne
988 Steve Lang*
944 Jose Morquecho Burquez*

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[QurtysLyn]

Unlimited
TT
Class 1

Trucks
Stock Full
Class 8
Stock Mini
Class 6
4400

Semi-Limited Buggies
Class 10
Class 5
Class 12

Limited Buggies
Class 16
Class 9
Class 11
UTV

I have no input on the Bikes/Quads.

[MadMike1111]

As an 11 guy I like to see we are included in the philosophical future, Long live body work and only using 3 gears in a 4 speed box!

[DMaurer1899]

Since the classes are made by the promoter, more times then not they're made with the I ntention to benefit the promotor. As a class evolves, changes are made, products are created, and some cars are either going to be left behind, or a new class is going to be created.
Basically, i think all these classes are being created because it's what the promotor wants the classes to be, but none are deleted because they want to keep a place for the 4 and 5 people that aren't willing to change? Maybe.

[Rory]

PERFECT WORLD: Smaller tier promoters like SNORE, MORE BORE, VORRA (no offence guys just using as a reference), get the Novice racers and they can work their way into a bigger class.....if they want to. Once your ready to move up, you can move up to the SCORE, BITD series (not sure where HDRA is yet, they are showing promise) to race with the elite classes. This is almost like NASCAR/Nationwide and the ARCA series. You can't just enter the Baja 1000 because you saw it on TV. I know that this is the cool thing about our sport but it might also be the downfall. Make the races in SCORE & BITD even more special, meaning you have to EARN your way in. If you are new you should have to race X amount of races in the smaller tier races to qualify to race a SCORE/BITD race. With that being said, SCORE/BITD will only have the best of the best classes (here comes the arguement). TT, class 1, class 10/12, 1600, class 8, class 7, manufacturers stock class (mini/full). Thats just an idea but the classes can be adjusted......like class 11, I think it needs to be there and even class 5 because it's the history of the sport, but a line has to be drawn.
Lots of guys that do NOT have one of these vehicles are not going to be happy but NO ONE will ever be happy about change. For all those D2G guys that want to race the Baja 1000 one time, NORRA is a GREAT alliterative, plus a better chance for them of coming out ALIVE.

Think about it, you just can't enter the premier race because you wrote a check, you have to EARN it. Look at the Indy 500, Daytona 500, F1. With more organization and less classes, it's a more spectator friendly series, which in turn makes for more interest, which calls for more exposure.....TV!

This most likely will not happen so it's a pipe dream. Then again, Maybe SCORE buy's out a smaller series and calls it SCORE2............

[zjohnson]

My take on this whole idea . . . For the Big series . . .
- TT/1 - Mixed draw or qualifying together. (I would love to see a good 1 car first off the line at the 500)
- Spec V8 Truck (class 8 and pro truck can play here) - Sort of a Heavy Metal class
- Spec engine buggy (class 10, 12, 5 open and ecotecs)
- Mini Truck ( class 6/7200)
- 1600
- Stock truck (divided into Full size and mini to keep manufacturers happy)
- 9
- 11
- Sportsman (truck and buggy divisions)

[Nessy]

PERFECT WORLD: Smaller tier promoters like SNORE, MORE BORE, VORRA (no offence guys just using as a reference), get the Novice racers and they can work their way into a bigger class.....if they want to. Once your ready to move up, you can move up to the SCORE, BITD series (not sure where HDRA is yet, they are showing promise) to race with the elite classes. This is almost like NASCAR/Nationwide and the ARCA series. You can't just enter the Baja 1000 because you saw it on TV. I know that this is the cool thing about our sport but it might also be the downfall. Make the races in SCORE & BITD even more special, meaning you have to EARN your way in. If you are new you should have to race X amount of races in the smaller tier races to qualify to race a SCORE/BITD race. With that being said, SCORE/BITD will only have the best of the best classes (here comes the arguement). TT, class 1, class 10/12, 1600, class 8, class 7, manufacturers stock class (mini/full). Thats just an idea but the classes can be adjusted......like class 11, I think it needs to be there and even class 5 because it's the history of the sport, but a line has to be drawn.
Lots of guys that do NOT have one of these vehicles are not going to be happy but NO ONE will ever be happy about change. For all those D2G guys that want to race the Baja 1000 one time, NORRA is a GREAT alliterative, plus a better chance for them of coming out ALIVE.

Think about it, you just can't enter the premier race because you wrote a check, you have to EARN it. Look at the Indy 500, Daytona 500, F1. With more organization and less classes, it's a more spectator friendly series, which in turn makes for more interest, which calls for more exposure.....TV!

This most likely will not happen so it's a pipe dream. Then again, Maybe SCORE buy's out a smaller series and calls it SCORE2............

Comparing road racing with TV packages to offroad were entries are what pays the bills doesnt make alot of sense.Why dont you make the country clubbers who can afford a TT but have no chance of winning start in a slower class to develop their skills and earn their way in?

[Rory]

Comparing road racing with TV packages to offroad were entries are what pays the bills doesnt make alot of sense.Why dont you make the country clubbers who can afford a TT but have no chance of winning start in a slower class to develop their skills and earn their way in?

It would take a better effort on the TV side to produce a good TV product. In the mid 90's ESPN did a great job (Bob Bower/Dave Despain). D2G also did a great job......so what I'm saying is it can be done. Millionaires can still race the Baja 1000, they just have to do the same as the blue collar guys, no special treatment for ANYONE. Professional racers from other series might get "somewhat" of a different path, maybe 1 race in a smaller series to get use to the vehicle and race conditions. I truly think this gives the series a more PROFESSIONAL feel and could attract a big series sponsor.

[DanMcMillin]

Lets start with putting the MC and ATVS behind the 4 wheelers first before making new classes.

Adding more classes to our sport is absolutely ridiculous. Maybe SCORE should work on giving the winners, podiumers, and top fivers, and finishers better trophies too, I have AYSO trophies better than my 1st place San Felipe trophy.

[GunnSlinger]

Lets start with putting the MC and ATVS behind the 4 wheelers first before making new classes.

Adding more classes to our sport is absolutely ridiculous. Maybe SCORE should work on giving the winners, podiumers, and top fivers, and finishers better trophies too, I have AYSO trophies better than my 1st place San Felipe trophy.

Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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