Shortcourse UNIFICATION??...is it here??

[Dirty*]

Well I have been to all the TORC races this year, minus Charlotte, the fan counts have been great! Not to sound one sided, but the amount of fans that show up to Crandon and Bark River are greater than all of the LOORRS races put together, if not really close to it. As for disorganization, I'm not seeing it either.....

Good thing you counted every fan at TORC Crandon & Bark River and LOORRS events to come up with that accurate count!! (minus Charlotte) I'm sure the TV viewership numbers surpass all of LOORRS also.

Someone "Kill This Thread"

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[TORC_spotter_870]

Good thing you counted every fan at TORC Crandon & Bark River and LOORRS events to come up with that accurate count!! (minus Charlotte) I'm sure the TV viewership numbers surpass all of LOORRS also.

Someone "Kill This Thread"

There is no doubt in my mind that LOORRS has more TV viewers, you and I both know that. I know you are a LOORRS guy/employee/whatever, but until you go to Crandon and Bark River and just see how many people are there, then you will see that I do indeed have a fairly accurate statement.

Just because you don't agree with the thread does not mean it should be killed.....

[Dirty*]

There is no doubt in my mind that LOORRS has more TV viewers, you and I both know that. I know you are a LOORRS guy/employee/whatever, but until you go to Crandon and Bark River and just see how many people are there, then you will see that I do indeed have a fairly accurate statement.

Just because you don't agree with the thread does not mean it should be killed.....

I'm just laughing now at this useless thread. Keep it going for all I care, or kill it but stop with all the lies and false info.

Maybe one day I will make it to Crandon & Bark river to get a fair estimate of the attendance. But for now I only know the true numbers of how many people have came to the LOORRS events and I can assure you your statement is false. That's all I was saying.

Thanks Dirty

[BANNED4LIFE]

i just want SOMEONE to PREVAIL......and SOON.....tony george FINALLY prevailed, but by then indycar was NOTHING.......the SPONSOR and TALENT pool is what will make shortcourse a successful series for ALL, now its being split in HALF and soon three ways with robbys new venture.....am i the ONLY person that see's this???

[SF@DERTCO]

i just want SOMEONE to PREVAIL......and SOON.....tony george FINALLY prevailed, but by then indycar was NOTHING.......the SPONSOR and TALENT pool is what will make shortcourse a successful series for ALL, now its being split in HALF and soon three ways with robbys new venture.....am i the ONLY person that see's this???

Hard to tell. But Robby has quite a few people that have already paid. So we will see when time comes I guess.

[fishd00d]

i just want SOMEONE to PREVAIL......and SOON.....tony george FINALLY prevailed, but by then indycar was NOTHING.......the SPONSOR and TALENT pool is what will make shortcourse a successful series for ALL, now its being split in HALF and soon three ways with robbys new venture.....am i the ONLY person that see's this???

IMO Robby's series will have the most to offer IF it all happens. More fans, more exposure, more racing, more $$.

[4_U_2_race]

In my opinion which means absolutely nothing I realize...The only good thing that's been said lately on this thread is "kill it". Both sides are getting out of hand and doing nothing good for the sport.

[eric2448]

Well I have been to all the TORC races this year, minus Charlotte, the fan counts have been great! Not to sound one sided, but the amount of fans that show up to Crandon and Bark River are greater than all of the LOORRS races put together, if not really close to it. As for disorganization, I'm not seeing it either.....

I think NORRS could draw a great crowd if they ran Bark River and the Crandon races. I think the locations TORC has created that were not in existence would be a better evaluation of their attendance record.

My next question is, with Ricky Johnsons once goal of getting racing back into a stadium setting; and the USAC and Traxxas involvement in this new Robby Gordon venture, should the mid-west be concerned of another promoter bailing again? According to the RG SST website, they will be holding events at Crandon and other mid-west venues, as well as almost every market served by LOORRS. Sure the racing style is not identical, but how many drivers and sponsors will we see cross over and abandon short course if RG has any kind of success?

[speedfun]

Pete you are correct if history repeats Itself. I think team LOORRS will come out on top if they continue in the path they are on, I don't know much about the RG deal but with any series that will take time to establish itself as a stable venue for sponcors to spend there money on in this economy without some solid results they can preform and deliver. Imo...

[speedfun]

Hard to tell. But Robby has quite a few people that have already paid. So we will see when time comes I guess.

Just curious how many people do you know are paid up and in the RG deal? Estimate?