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We really pushed to have drysumps and I agree they are just better and less $$$ in the longrun. There were a few things we tried to get in the rules but the promoter "BITD" wants to keep things simple. I agree with their decision because all their reasoning made sense.
Now all this talk about these trucks being slow etc... All coming from people who race? Or internet race?
I feel these trucks will be fast enough to be really fun, they will be very reliable, and will be way less money to maintain. I really do not understand why some of you guys care so much when you wont even EVER be racing in this class or racing in any class for that matter? Seems to me there are plenty of people building trucks for this class and are very excited to do so. I don't hear any complaints from any of them about how much these engines cost so why from some of you? Why do you care so much?
$7500 for an brand new aluminum block LS3 engine with ECU and wire harness sounds great to me! I know for a fact you can't build any engine brand new from scratch with a wire harness and ECU for this much so all this talk about building an engine for 1/2 the cost is just funny. If it was so easy then why would a Pro Truck engine cost $20,000 or more? Why does everyone buy LS engines for their play cars instead of building one of these "hey my friend can do it for 1/2 off" engines. Everyone has a friend who can do it for way less, these are the same teams always scratching their heads on the side lines.
Point is the Ford 5.0L and LS3 engines are a great platform to have a SPEC engine TT class. This class will be very popular in no time. I have seen plenty of stock LS engines last 10,000+ miles with zero issues.
Anytime there is a spec class there is either blatant cheating or someone know that there is cheating, even when there may not have been. Limit the fuel, "spec" a resrtictor plate and let them race... since when was racing ever "inexpensive"?
My point can be illustrated by the birth of TT. Class 1 was "Unlimited". trucks began racing in it and the "unlimited" guys started whining and it has been down hill ever since... Make a big truck pro class and a big truck sportsman class, same for the "mini trucks" and have some big classes once again, rather than a watered down field. If Volkswagen wants to bring their factory vehicles over to race the 500, don't make a class for them!
It won't fail because of me!
Either way this really makes sense to me for guys who want to run a class where the competition comes from the racing not how much $$$ you spend on an engine.
2) Are you now a race engine builder? If so please show me what you have built because I have no idea...
3) You built a SBC that would hold up in a TT? or is that a car?
4) Are you going to build a 6100 truck? If not then why do you even care or get involved in this anyways?
Now I have never in my life built an engine personaly but I have been around it long enough to know what it takes. I have learned a lot over the last 3 years TRYING to make a race engine last in a TT. What I found is this...
1) You need to spend around $70,000 - $100,000 on an 8 stack injected 454ci engine built by either Kroyer, Dugan, or Patton. PERIOD! If you want to WIN.
2) I can't afford this so a stock LS3 sounds really really good to me.
3) I will be very honest with everyone if it has issues and will not back this class if we have issues. But I really do not think we will have issues seeing so many of our customers install LS1, 2 and 3 engines in their 5000+ lb trucks with ZERO issues when they are brand new not built out of scretchy used parts or by their buddy.
They ditched it this year for many reasons but for one there was no one in the class and they wanted to focus on the Trophy Truck program. Jessica rides in the Trophy Truck now, which would sounds better than a ProTruck anyways in my opinion! LOL