149 SAM BERRI vs 1456 Brandon "AMATEUR HOUR" Aurther

[fernley1]

I had to go up that part of the course 2 time for recovery. The first part was not to bad, lots of dust, but many places to pull off if needed. Where the cars are stopped, it gets steeper and the silt gets a lot deeper, no place to pull off for about 100 yards, till your at the top. Then drops down for another 100 yards and turns at the bottom. Then another silty, single tracked, tree lined, deeply rutted, up hill climb about 1/4 mile long with a switch back in the middle of it, silt about 2 feet deep. We were doing this in a lifted Jeep Rubican with 35 inch tires, front and rear lockers, and it was real hard to get over the hill. After this section the course gets pretty good and a lot faster with plenty of spots to pass.

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[supercrew144]

He wasnt behind him for five minutes. And he did pull over for him but he was stuck by then. I say Brandon was in the right. Just my opinion. Everyone has a right to one

[casemaker]

Hard to put blame on Brandon. I could see where he may of sped up to find a spot to pull over. The codog should be watching hard to see where the class one was, maybe he did. I honestly dont think they heard the siren. The camera has no helmet on... I think the second bump was a little aggressive. IRC has a good solution to this deal. They have developed close proximity transponder and receiver to let you know when another car is close behind you. They work on bikes to. I believe they said they could get the cost to around 150 bucks. Could be a lot cheaper and safer option. Maybe one day an organizer will make them mandatory.

I, like most of you have nerfed and been nerfed. As the guy getting nerfed I always thought it would be good to communicate to the guy behind me that I am pulling over. There are places that you just cannot get out of the way good enough to let the faster car by and you try to hurry to the first place you can let the car behind you by. I always though a bright blinking light on the rear of the car would be a good thing to have to be able to communicate with the car behind you. You can try to wave but with all of the dust and stuff behind the driver (a single seater in my case, spare tire, oil cooler) you are hard to see. So if you get nerfed you could push a button that would tell the guy behind you that you will pull over within 15 seconds. Or, If you see someone behind you you could push the button and use the flashing light and they would know that they do not have to take the chance to have to nerf and prepare for you to slow and let them go by. As the guy preparing to nerf a car, it would be nice to know what the guy ahead of you is thinking. The light would only flash for 15 seconds and automaticly go off. Once it is off and you have not moved over you would be fair game. I like the idea of a close proximity transponder. The problem with that is that it does not communicate with the car behind you. I think it would be cool to have both systems.
While I am here I might well give my opinion of the topic. Opinions are like as.......well, you know. After seeing the video it appears to me that the truck was on the gas to keep from getting stuck. The vid does not really show how steep the hill is but it sounds like the engine is working pretty hard. It appears the driver was concerned about getting stuck (after all he just passed a stuck car) if he pulled over (from what he said). It is not surprising the tranny broke in the 149 car. The little Fortin was stressed going up the hill and one more pop from nerfing the car overloaded the gear. Day done. It looks like bad judgment to me to nerf in that situation. He got away with the first nerf. The second...... Had he been just a little more patient he may have won the race.

[Jonesy77]

Wow "F"ing "OLD BALLS"...leave the KID alone!!!!!

[jowoog]

ANY more video coming ,....sam's , or rearward from brandon ?/

[HSDMORGAN]

I'm the 325th person to post on this retarded thread. Lol

[Broncodawg]

No keyboard spectator here, was doing retrieval at the race and the course is a lot tighter than it looks in the video. What I see in the video is that Sam wasn't catching them all that fast. Took him from their first mention of him until they got to the stuck cars. Was the siren at the stuck cars Brandons acknowledging their stuck friend or Sams? Two people know for sure, Brandon and Sam. Easy to see and hear how steep the hill is after and expecting a racer to pull over on a steep hill and either get stuck or create a new bottleneck doesn't make much sense given Sam's experience. Now if Sam was on their butt when they stopped for a moment, then codawg screwed up, but once started up the hill, it made sense to go to the top. As you all heard, when they did try to pull over on the hill, Sam got stuck trying to get around, so they kept going to the top.
If the siren by the stuck cars was Brandon's then Sam only sounded off to them once before the hard hit?
Bottom line is this whole thing is way overblown, Kid's codawg will be way more alert in the future and Sam might be more patient on a course like that. Props to HRT for posting the vid and a shame that Sam doesn't have one to back his play. Put this baby to bed!

[Rory]

I, like most of you have nerfed and been nerfed. As the guy getting nerfed I always thought it would be good to communicate to the guy behind me that I am pulling over. There are places that you just cannot get out of the way good enough to let the faster car by and you try to hurry to the first place you can let the car behind you by. I always though a bright blinking light on the rear of the car would be a good thing to have to be able to communicate with the car behind you. You can try to wave but with all of the dust and stuff behind the driver (a single seater in my case, spare tire, oil cooler) you are hard to see. So if you get nerfed you could push a button that would tell the guy behind you that you will pull over within 15 seconds. Or, If you see someone behind you you could push the button and use the flashing light and they would know that they do not have to take the chance to have to nerf and prepare for you to slow and let them go by. As the guy preparing to nerf a car, it would be nice to know what the guy ahead of you is thinking. The light would only flash for 15 seconds and automaticly go off. Once it is off and you have not moved over you would be fair game. I like the idea of a close proximity transponder. The problem with that is that it does not communicate with the car behind you. I think it would be cool to have both systems.
While I am here I might well give my opinion of the topic. Opinions are like as.......well, you know. After seeing the video it appears to me that the truck was on the gas to keep from getting stuck. The vid does not really show how steep the hill is but it sounds like the engine is working pretty hard. It appears the driver was concerned about getting stuck (after all he just passed a stuck car) if he pulled over (from what he said). It is not surprising the tranny broke in the 149 car. The little Fortin was stressed going up the hill and one more pop from nerfing the car overloaded the gear. Day done. It looks like bad judgment to me to nerf in that situation. He got away with the first nerf. The second...... Had he been just a little more patient he may have won the race.

WOW, this is actually a great idea, easy and cheap. One of the first posts on this thread that is PRODUCTIVE. Great idea Casemaker.

[DEZERTSUB]

Wait a second...I thought posting the video was supposed to be the end of all speculation...lol

but it appears now both sides claim they have proof that their intitial opinions are factual...
(using the same video as evidence mind you...LOL)

This whole thing is TOTALLY subjective....

How about this: They both made some racing errors. The co-dog in the 1456 was more concerned with telling HIS DRIVER what was going on up ahead because of the stuck cars on course...and if ANY OF YOU think that if YOU had been in that seat would have been more concerned with a car coming up behind you at that point....I say you're full of fecal matter.

There ain't no way in hell you're gonna convince me that you'd be more concerned with a car behind you than preventing yourself from getting stuck.

but WTF do I know, I've only ever sat in the right seat, never driven.

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