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July 30th, 2012, 10:16
#11
Forum Junkie
Re: Much of hidden state park cash was in controversial off-road fund!?

Originally Posted by
Ol' Curmudgeon
Because us ol' timers have hated it since its inception when we were youngsters, whether we were "green" or "grease"?
ANYTHING off-road is controversial?
ANYTHING in Cal is controversial?
LA TIMES' old-line Demo stance?
"Controversial" sells papers (generates hits)?
They heard about you?

Bingo on that, 25 years ago before I moved to Az I protested with many about this bull. Get involved or Calif will have to go to Mexico just to ride let alone race. Many already just do that.

Originally Posted by
Mark_Weyhrich
The man showed gonads that rival the size of his mullet.
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July 30th, 2012 10:16
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July 31st, 2012, 07:36
#12
Elite
Re: Much of hidden state park cash was in controversial off-road fund!?

Originally Posted by
Bro_Gill
Mismanaged or criminally manipulated? I think it is the latter. The possible money now claimed as not claimed by various agencies is up around 2.3 BILLION, so our 53 million is small potatoes. And now the governors own Finance department is saying theer wasn't a problem, if they wanted to know how much money there really was. all they needed to do was ASK! For real? Why were they feeding the Governor phony numbers for his budget proposal to begin with? WHO made teh decision that THAT was OK? Whoever that is needs to go to the gray bar hotel. This is only gonna get worse before it gets better, and in teh end, the OHV money will be a side note because the other money is gonna eclipse it. These F'ers have been lying to the residents of california for over a decade, purposely, to protect their beauracratic kingdom's funds.
Exactly.
Just padding the "slush funds" of the potentate politicians.
They are all criminals. Seems lately its a race to see who can get away with the most.
"If you are going through hell, just keep going"
Winston Churchill

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July 31st, 2012, 08:00
#13
Hustler
Re: Much of hidden state park cash was in controversial off-road fund!?
I really don't care about the sensational bs. I just want to see this money now and in the future correctly applied to maintaining and opening new land. I think we need to have some off-road community oversight and transparency. Anybody know where we can find the public accounting records? I say we put a tracker on race-dezert.com and report on how the money is being used.
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July 31st, 2012, 08:07
#14
Captain Buzzkill
Re: Much of hidden state park cash was in controversial off-road fund!?

Originally Posted by
MADMEDIA
Anybody know where we can find the public accounting records? I say we put a tracker on race-dezert.com and report on how the money is being used.
Sounds like a GREAT idea.... we should start collecting emails from all of the state and national officials and let them know (on a regular basis) how THEY are spending that money when the money is spent.
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July 31st, 2012, 08:33
#15
Accepted
Re: Much of hidden state park cash was in controversial off-road fund!?
As soon as Johnson Valley is given back and Diane F#ckstein buys up the rest of the public land for the sand to snow monument there will be no more "controversial" ohv fund. Ohv in california will no longer exist.
When in fear stab it & steer!!!

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July 31st, 2012, 09:07
#16
Re: Much of hidden state park cash was in controversial off-road fund!?
Madmedia- welcome to the party...LATE! Much of the OHV fund has already been used to buy land...that OHV use will never occur on. The previous boards that run the OHV program were stacked with enviromental members appointed by the Heads of the State Senate and the State Legislature plus the Governor. They bought plenty of land to offset the damage that OHV do in OHV areas. At least that is their excuse for creating more preserves with OHV money. In the meantime, they threatened to oir actually did cut OHV funds that went to federal lands where OHV opportunities exist in hopes that the feds were cut out those opportunities since they were no longer receiving the funds. Glamis is a perfect example. Not only have there been no increased opportunities while the fund has continued to collect money, OHV recreation land has been reduced, even after the State doubled the cost to register your OHV because the funds genereated were 'not enough to cover teh cost of the program...' We need to have true representation on the OHV commission, not just a couple token off roaders to battle the majority of environmentalists that run it. And we need to curtail the OHV funds that go to counties that offer no OHV opportunities, like Riverside County, who receives plenty of OHV money togo out and police against OHV use while having not one single State or County park or area where OHV use is legal.
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July 31st, 2012, 09:10
#17
Re: Much of hidden state park cash was in controversial off-road fund!?
RivCo management has been a fiefdom for a century. Simple fact.
Hey! You kids!! Get OFF my driveway!!! If you can't go away happy, just go away!

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July 31st, 2012, 15:23
#18
Re: Much of hidden state park cash was in controversial off-road fund!?
NO matter how you slice it the off road community will continue to get boned
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July 31st, 2012, 18:23
#19
Hustler
Re: Much of hidden state park cash was in controversial off-road fund!?
Where can we find out who is on this board or how the organization works? Yes OHV funds should only go to support OHV areas. Otherwise that's a policing issue. The board should be entirely comprised of off-roaders! I am a environmentalist, but I off-road. I want to see the environment maintained and even replenished for generations to come... so they to can off-road!