What are the Biggest 3 Vintages Races

[AZ45]

Yah, Laughlin....that's a smooth track...just kidding Jeff but not really...

You can do anything for 2 miles!

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[Chris_Wilson]

Yah, Laughlin....that's a smooth track...just kidding Jeff but not really...

There used to be (maybe there still is) a rally in Laughlin that used lots of the smooth fast graded roads in the indian reservations up by the grand canyon. It would be perfect for a vintage off road rally. They used to have a prerunner class but it was lame because they started last and some of the prerunners were as fast as the fastest open class cars so they had to pass a huge amount of cars and ran in heavy dust the whole time wich resulted in some carnage. So that is an example of where someone could run a stateside vintage off road rally on perfect roads in a nice venue (epic scenery, casino stay each night).

[bajaxp]

All I can say is that I am currently 100% focused on getting to the starting like for next year's Mexican 1000. I race for fun, and typically the more fun that the BBT has the better we do. Maybe this vintage thing will turn into a series, but for now I am like UPR Jeff, 'once a year' is ok with me.

[Rory]

Laughlin to Primm........BLM wouldn't let it happen but maybe a NON sanctioned weekend drive is in order. No racing, just vintage iron. Problem is the #'s would have to be low as to not attract BLM......under 20. No Entry fee, no technical inspection, no BLM, kinda like the way they use to prerun back in the day. I'm thinking just a good ol' time driving some vintage iron with plenty of "Hydration" stops along the way. I've got a couple BETTER idea's but will keep them under wraps until I can hammer out the details.

[Hog Wild]

I met with Mike Pearlman from NORRA a week ago. One thing we discussed is my concept for a possible second NORRA rally that would accommodate vintage and modern (currently named the "Diabolical Rally"). It's a 5 to 7 day (1 stage per day) rally where some days are easy terrain, appropriate for vintage, and some days are super tough, on par with a nasty day in Dakar. So, vintage would maybe run 3 to 4 "easy" days (~600 miles), while modern would run all days (~1500 miles). There would be a fixed "bivouac", so all stages would be loops, and there wouldn't need to be any chase. You could stay in the same hotel each night (a few miles down the road), or camp in the bivouac and hang out in the catered beer/food tent. Most of the terrain has never been raced on, at least not in recent times. And more than one of the tougher stages have no roads at all (completely different than anything you've ever raced). It's just over the boarder, near a major town, so super convenient. I've already laid out 7 stages, and will start riding/driving it to validate the routes and roadbooks once the summer heat is gone.

The Diabolical Rally would be a traditional Dakar style roadbook navigated rally event, i.e. the course is secret and no course maps or GPS tracks would be provided nor allowed. NORRA has been inching in this direction with the Mexican 1000, but this one would be a whole new level of navigation challenge. "Diabolical" refers to the terrain and the navigation!

Though Mike seems interested in another NORRA event sometime in the future, he didn't like the idea of loops in the Diabolical Rally (he likes point-to-point), and he didn't seem to be ready for anything beyond the Mexican 1000 for 2013. So, I don't know if NORRA would pick up this particular rally idea or not.

[Fandango]

After reading Rory's post I wondered how difficult it would be to put together some big ace poker run between resorts. An event that would showcase the vintage cars and proceeds go to cancer research. Because of our ages, prostate, colon, something like that. Kind of a vintage version of the powder puff race but not a race. Alternate cars could be used for rough sections and two or more resorts could get on board. Maybe run it through Nevada and each community has a host casino. Winner gets a Norra entry.

[retroblazer]

Yo Chris, never any doubt about all the fun and want to add that you and your Blazer are inspiring. When I penciled in last years rally, it looked like about 8k for a modest week with a few friends along. I can make the time, just don't want to bore anyone with how many river miles that wad can float. Sure, a US rally event will be less, but not by much. At sixty, cool, wet, or smooth look pretty good these days. A desert race once a year is affordable and I really didn't know the Silver State was mostly fast until the vids were posted. Two years ago we posted up some interest in a reunion event. Seems like it evolved into class debates and sort of fizzled. I check this forum all the time so if people get more serious about showing up and care a little less about how fair the vehicles are, and how much prestigious/media/sponsor/bling and on, than we may actually put a race together. Just last month Vorra bent over backwards...and then just bent over because no one showed. Where were we? That race would have been a perfect start.

I haven't been able to pull off going to any of the recent VORRA races because I have been cash-free for the past two years. I am a stockbroker that invests primarily in community banks. The good news is my sector is gradually coming back, but you can imagine my more recent reception when I ask " Are you interested in investing in a community bank?" I get the " you're crazy" look.
I moved to California last year and am slowly getting my stuff together. I would look to do a late year run somewhere and I don't really care about the rules. Ordinarily I would be happy to lead the cause, but not this year.