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    Re: Save johnson valley august 2012 campaign - get involved or shut the hell up!

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoyrtt View Post
    I agree.

    If this base expansion passes, we will be left with three, small areas to race: Barstow, Ridgecrest and Plaster City. MORE, if it continues to promote races, will either utilize Barstow exclusively or move to one of the other options for some of the events. Do you really want this to happen?

    Four years ago when the expansion was proposed, the Marines were looking to completely close the entire Johnson Valley OHV area. After a strong protest from the rock crawling community, the Marines are now pushing this proposal, which allows joint use of some of the area, specifically the Hammer trails off of Boone Rd and Means Dry Lake. The four and two wheel desert racing community, (maybe due to the fact there was little to no protest) will be completely shut out of racing in Lucerne/Johnson Valley. All it takes is a phone call or an email to let these representatives know you care!

    Think about this: The MORE/SNORE Chili Cook Off on September 8, 2012 could very well be the LAST race ever held in Lucerne/Johnson Valley.
    very well put. i am shocked by the inactivity on these threads on a few of the off road wdebsites not just race dezert. we need to step up and be heard. we are running out of time and this could be our last chance.

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    Re: Save johnson valley august 2012 campaign - get involved or shut the hell up!

    Letters sent!!!

    Thank you KIM and all that help to gather the info and spread the world about these issues!!
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    Re: Save johnson valley august 2012 campaign - get involved or shut the hell up!

    Quote Originally Posted by kim View Post
    SAVE JOHNSON VALLEY
    AUGUST 2012 CAMPAIGN
    · If the Marines went through 10 years of war without this extra land, it surely could wait a few months until all interests could be accommodated.

    • Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-CA) District Director Tevor Daley

    Los Angeles 310-914-7300 fax 310-914-7318

    • Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA 22) District Director Vince Fong Bakersfield 661-327-3611 fax 661-637-0867


    • Rep. Buck McKeon (R-CA 25) Deputy COS Bob Haueter Santa Clarita 661-254-2111 fax 661-254-2380


    • Rep. Jerry Lewis (R-CA 41) District Director Rachel Khalili Redlands 909-862-6030 fax 909-335-9155


    • Rep. Mary Bono Mack (R-CA 45) District Director Marc Troast Palm Desert 760-320-1076 fax 760-320-0596


    • Rep. Ken Calvert (R-CA 44) District Director Jolyn Murphy Corona 951-784-4300 fax 951-784-5225


    • Rep. David Drier (R-CA 26) District Director Mark Harmsen San Dimas 909-575-6226 fax 909-575-6266
    Do we have more email addresses for these jokers?!?!
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    Re: Save johnson valley august 2012 campaign - get involved or shut the hell up!

    I will post them as I find them.
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    Re: Save johnson valley august 2012 campaign - get involved or shut the hell up!

    Here is a great new thread on Pirate 4X4: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1083685

    We're in the 11th hour of this battle.

    We have 2 approaches we have to simultaneously follow.

    First, go to the 7 Days to Save the Hammers campaign and place a call/send a fax/email to a CA representative once a day this week. We are in the middle of a national budget crisis, and our representatives need to know that our we see our country’s debt as our #1 biggest national security threat and the Marines increasing their land for training, while decreasing their numbers is not a responsible expenditure. Tell them they need to oppose this spending because of our fiscal crisis, or we’ll expose them for not being fiscally responsible.

    Second, the Secretary of the Navy has released the Final Environmental Impact Statement for Public Comment on the Proposed Land Acquisition at the Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center in Twentynine Palms, CA. We are in the 11th hour. Once the Record of Decision has been recorded by the Secretary of the Navy to allow withdrawing the land from public use and BLM Management, Johnson Valley is pretty much lost to us.

    The Final EIS was published July 27, 2012. There is a 30-day waiting period after the publication of the Final EIS, so we have until August 27 to submit our comments.

    We need your comments to maintain our standing in this fight.

    There were 18,000 letters sent through the Pirate letter generator. Chances are good that you sent one or more, and you will have valid comments to comment on again.

    * You may not feel that your comment is "the" one we need to keep our area open, but it may be "the" one that the California Motorized Recreation Council or Blue Ribbon Coalition needs to carry into court.
    * You may not comment on any new information.
    * You must comment on their responses to your previous comments.


    You need to find your own comment or comments in the Final EIS. Go to the link below to get to the Land Acquisition/Airspace Establishment Study.

    http://www.marines.mil/unit/29palms/...s/default.aspx

    Click on Appendix N.

    Look for your name.

    I found it helpful to print out the pages my name was on.
    In the 2nd column, it lists the number of your comment.
    In the 3rd column, it lists the page number your comment is on. Your comment may be in one of several files—Appendix N part 1, 1a, 2, 3, 4, or 4a.

    Read their response to your comment.
    They have a lot of “canned” responses. See if they actually responded to your words. If not, comment on:
    • Any inaccuracies or discrepancies
    • Comment on the adequacy of the analysis
    • Comment if they have properly identified ways to mitigate significant impacts.

    o If you have commented on OHV recreation being displaced from Johnson Valley, this is one of our number one arguments. The Final EIS has acknowledged that there will be a significant impact to OHV recreation, but they have FAILED to identify any reasonable ways to mitigate this impact. In other words, they have failed to tell us where else we can go and legally recreate that will have any sort of terrain similar to Johnson Valley, and they have failed to identify any ways to solve the problem that will come up when several thousand of us descend on another OHV recreation area.

    • You can disagree with their interpretation of the impacts.
    • If their response does not seem to address your comment, you can question that but always tell them to do something.
    • If you make the statement: "Your response doesn't address my comment.", they will not be required to respond. You need to tell them that they didn't address your comment and tell them what they need to do about it.


    Address your comments to:
    Naval Facilities Engineering Command, Southwest
    Attn: 29Palms EIS Project Manager
    1220 Pacific Highway
    San Diego, CA 92132-5190

    Remember, your comments are due August 27. 19 days from today.

    If you have any questions, please post up on the 7 Days to Save the Hammers Facebook page, or PM me.

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    Re: Save johnson valley august 2012 campaign - get involved or shut the hell up!

    I called. also i dont know if this will help but dose congressman duncan hunter jr know about what is going on? I called and spoke to his office and they acted like they didnt know anything about it.they asked me to e-mail info about it to them but I am a moron when it comes to computers and dont know how to send links. KIM maybe you can send him the info, phone(619)448-5201, fax (619)449-2251. thank you.

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    Re: Save johnson valley august 2012 campaign - get involved or shut the hell up!

    They know but I will call them tomorrow and follow up with an email.

    Thanks
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    Re: Save johnson valley august 2012 campaign - get involved or shut the hell up!

    sent 7 faxes/letters today...

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    Re: Save johnson valley august 2012 campaign - get involved or shut the hell up!

    Bump because it's more important than any of the threads above it! So where are all the ballers???

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    Re: Save johnson valley august 2012 campaign - get involved or shut the hell up!

    Sent off a bunch of emails this morning. Will see about sending some more later in the day. Keep up the fight.
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