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October 19th, 2004, 21:45
#1
Administrator
Power Steering pump
I need a bracket to mount my Lee power steering pump to my sbc. Where do most people buy them from? Experiences good or bad with a particular brand. Need to buy ASAP.
Thank you
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October 19th, 2004 21:45
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October 19th, 2004, 23:04
#2
Re: Power Steering pump
John, try CV Products, or call Mckenzies.
Jon
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October 20th, 2004, 08:25
#3
RDC Addicted
Re: Power Steering pump
John I don't know where you are at on the engine,but before you look just for a mount for the pump you need to look at the whole pulley system. Where and how many belts. Look at it as a system or you will have a ton of belts and parts you can't use. I use the head mount from speedway.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/asp...qx/product.htm
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October 20th, 2004, 10:17
#4
RDC Addicted
Re: Power Steering pump
John,
You should seriously consider powering all your accessories with a serpentine belt. I've seen that done somewhere before...
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October 20th, 2004, 11:12
#5
RDC Addicted
Re: Power Steering pump
I have always been a fan of a two belt system. Crank-water-alt with one and crank-water-PS with the other. When you are in the middle of nowhere you can make it back without a alt or PS but you won't go far with out the water pump. Also when you are in race it may be the differance on making it to a pit to get a new belt or having to get out of the car. last year in Laughlin Ron Brant was in the hunt then 1/2 way through his last lap he through the serpentine belt and had to stop and put the spare on. If it was only one belt of the two he never would have stopped.
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October 20th, 2004, 18:28
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Forum Junkie
Re: Power Steering pump
Frank, pre-runner, not race car.......
Serpintine belt needs revers rotation water pump. things to keep in mind.
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October 20th, 2004, 20:02
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RDC Addicted
Re: Power Steering pump
yea I know, but lets say you are out playing in barstow and you loose a belt. You pull over and pull the spare out and put it on and B.S with all your friends maybe have a couple. Then you jump in your truck and take off. then 15 mile down the road it does it again. now what, well if you have a two belt system that most like cost the same as a Serpintine system you just drive home without PS. A pain in the butt yes but you are still home. With the Serpintine system you are stuck there waiting for your friend to find a parts store open to get a new belt and most like something else (idler ect.) just to make it home. That is all I was tring to pass on.
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October 20th, 2004, 20:53
#8
Accepted
Re: Power Steering pump
Yep, in off-road a two belt system is the way to go! No but's about it. I'm not saying a serpentine won't work, it's just that sometimes more options will save your day in the middle of nowhere.
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October 20th, 2004, 22:05
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Re: Power Steering pump
While I can appreciate the bene's of a two (+) belt system, given the option I would go with a serp belt IF an OE bracket set for that engine is available. B/c of the width of the belt, alignment is critical and the odds of getting it right in a home shop are not great. There is a reason most serp belt accessory brackets are large machined castings.
In my observation, poly-V belts do not tend to get pitched nearly as often as V-belts. So it could be a case where you need redundancy with v-belts b/c either they are not as robust or b/c the alignment of the brackets is not as good.
Not all serp belt systems use a reverse rotation H2O pump, just most of them.
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October 20th, 2004, 22:22
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RDC Addicted
Re: Power Steering pump
Frank,
I have worked extensively on serpentine setups and they are very complicated when it comes to setting them up properly. Most of the setups I've seen on rear engine buggies and sand toys are marginal at best. Some of the V-belt stuff has it's share of problems also. I've seen V-belts suck up rocks and take the belt out only to have the damaged belt proceed to take out all the other belts including the drive belt for the oil pump which in some cases kills a motor all together. Just watch some of the V-belts on a TT motor some time while on a dyno at 7500 rpm under a load. Sometimes you'll see the v-belts get up out out of the grooves almost 1/4 of an inch in some cases because of the centrifugal forces involved. Having a constant tensioner solves some of that as well as allows you to pass objects throught the belt train without derailing the belt. In a forward mounted enginge like in a TT shoveling up rocks and gravel into the motor is a constant problem and the serpentine handles that job much better than V-belts. The Enduro TT has ran a serpentine belt since day one and they have never had any problems with that system.