Bilstein's new Blackhawk shocks

[jcorsico]

Does anyone have any experiance with these new shocks? I'm curious to hear how they shape up against the Kings, which seem to generally be the shock of choice for new TT's.

Check them out at: http://www.bilstein.com/html/applica...9300/index.htm

I also know that the most recent issue of Dirt Sports did a whole write-up on them.

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[Ryan_P]

A lot of TT's and protrucks are having them made and switching over to the new bypass shock, the Blackhawk. There is a couple trucks running them now, like the Tundra I posted below. The shock on the front end, coil over AND bypass, are mounted off the upper arm as shown in the last picture.

-Ryan

[JrSyko]

A lot of TT's and protrucks are having them made and switching over to the new bypass shock, the Blackhawk.

Is Ivan going to allow only some of the PT's to run them or are they all gonna have to run them? Might be an un-fair advantage if only some of them run them.

Also, wouldn't the Bilstein coilover be to small for the TT's?

[John_Bitting]

We have not had a chance to get the blackhawks dialed in on the Tundra. Hopefully before the 500 with working with Bilstien and Mike from Super Shocks Cory and Ted will be able to run that Tundra to its potential. It needs test time. Mike from SS did not have any valving to tune then at Laughlin. I highly doubt teams will be able to run them on protrucks. That will be interesting though, supposed to be a level playing field class and with 4 alone in the back and two up front thats a $13k upgrade just on bypasses and a little overkill to have dual bypasses that big on each corner. We shall see.

[Ryan_P]

Yeah, thats just what a couple PT guys were talking about it Laughlin. We shall see how that goes, and it would be an unfair advantage if they could run either or.

-Ryan

[racer951]

I have heard from a team that runs them that the real advantage is the lack of shock fade. At Laughlin that wouldnt matter but it would be a big help 500 miles into the Baja 1000.

John - You said the valving was way off on that 8 truck. I saw the rear end slapping through super small stuff the first day and was wondering what was going on as it was way behind. Way too light?

[John_Bitting]

There was no test time on the 8 truck going into laughlin so the valving they came with is what was run on Saturday which was way too soft, On Sunday it was better. The truck was taken to the 1000 untested and lost a ring and pinion about 300 miles into the race, it went back to the shop and then went to Laughlin, The shocks should be dialed by the next race. The truck should be really fast once dialed.

[sandking]

Heard they cost $2500.00 each??

[Ryan_P]

Heard they cost $2500.00 each??

Actually, $2200 is the magical number.

John, I was told from numerous people that the only people that can valve and reseal a Blackhawk is Bilstein themselves. That the shocks are very hard to work with, that most guys can't valve them. Is this true? The reason I am asking is because some people are steering away from them because of this reason, that you have to send them in to Bilstein to have them worked on everytime you wanna valve the shock. Thanks for any help/info.

-Ryan

[Eric_M]

Actually, $2200 is the magical number.

John, I was told from numerous people that the only people that can valve and reseal a Blackhawk is Bilstein themselves. That the shocks are very hard to work with, that most guys can't valve them. Is this true? The reason I am asking is because some people are steering away from them because of this reason, that you have to send them in to Bilstein to have them worked on everytime you wanna valve the shock. Thanks for any help/info.

-Ryan

dood.. you asked the same question on dezertrangers.com a few days ago, and mike answered your question... heres his responce to your question.. "i dont know where the rumor of having to take them to bilstein to get them serviced came from, possibly because they're so new, but they are extremely easy to work on being that their construction is simple." << copied and pasted.