wire loads

[Jack]

If your solder is breaking from vibration then you did not solder it at the right temp. If it is breaking from wieght load then you did not sicure the wires properly. And if this is the case you will have even more poblems with a slide on or srew termanal.

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[JaxMotorsports]

I agree

If you use the right terminals and the right crimper, crimp is better then solder for vibration resistance. If you look at the old aircraft connectors in a junk yard they were all soldered on but if you look at the new Canon and Deutsch connectors the use crimp on pins, granted the crimper for those is around $350 bucks but we are getting off the point. If you are wiring a "Race Car" and using toggle switch style breaker or correctly rated Aircraft grade toggle switch and push to reset circuit breaker then that's great don't use a relay, but If you are Wiring a play car and you are getting your stuff at Pep Boys Use a relay and a circuit breaker because no switch sold in a chain auto parts store is going handle the load of a electric fan for more then a few cycles.
There are a lot of different ideas on how to do wiring, and sometimes there is more then one right answer. I remember there was another thread like this and PCIScott chimed in with some good info on relays, but I could not find it, if you see this Scott please add you two cents. Thanks Jack

[Dezertpilot]

Well I am using a k4 switch from Kartek rated at 50 amps with 10 guage wire and an inline 30 amp fuse. I am pretty sure it will work untill I play with the wiring this weekend. I think I might throw in a relay for safe measures. Keep the info coming you guys sure know alot more than I do and I am really soaking this up. Oh can I solder on the wire to the connector that is usually crimp on? Or how about me crimping on the wire to the connectore then soldering over it? Thanx for all the replys....

[Dezertpilot]

Oh and where can I get some of these Canon/Deutch connectors? These are the connectors that the wire attaches to and then to the switch/relay correct? And while we are on the topic of electrical can anyone reccomend(sp?) a good electrical warehouse in Corona or Riverside area. I used to know of a couple in Rancho Cucamonga but I dont want to drive that far if necessary.

[John_Bitting]

All this stuff is foreign to me.. That is why I am gonna hire a professional wire guy to wire up the Project Blazer. I will post a whole write up and pics of it so people can see whats all involved if you want to tackle it yourself..

[Dezertpilot]

John the best way to learn about wiring is to dive into it. My buddy Phorensic is a wiring pro so I just listen to him and he helps me big time. The more I get involved and see what is going on the more I learn which is good. I think if you can be with your wire guy when he does the wiring and ask questions if he will be patient enough. If you are in the middle of Mex and have an electrical problem at least you know what it could be or have an idea. The more I learn about electrical the funner it is to me. This is one area that I would love to be profecient at. I was looking at the connectors from Cannon, Deutch and some of the other connectors and I am really curious as to what application they are used in.

[5racer]

why have two fans on one switch your asking for trouble 1 fan 1 switch because if one fan motor starts going bad the amps will jump way up there and blow breakers or melt wires .but if you only have one swicth then it also kills the fan with a good motor .and you can chase this problem for ever because alot of times the fan motors run great tell they get hot if there on one switch how would you tell what fan could be your problem



2 fans 2 switchs only way .

[John_Bitting]

I will watch and learn for sure, but I think people specialize in their respected fields for a reason. Kinda like why you go to the doctors when you are sick verse listening to your buddy diagnose you. For me its peice of mind paying a professional whom specializes in wiring to do the job right the first time. In the long run it pays off, If I tried to do it myself and shorted out a GPS, radio, or computer or had a short and fire etc.. I would have wished I paid someone the first time and not had to replace everything I already bought. To each his own. I have nothing but respect for the person that tackles it themselves. I am just not that person.

[5racer]

btw spruce aircraft has switches with built in breakers right in the switch less wire and one less componentkinda priceie but worth it them come in sizes 5amp to 50amp

[Dezertpilot]

Steve are u saying that these switches with the built in breakers would eliminate a relay? So I can have one of these breakers installed and then when I blow the fuse I can reset them while I am driving? Id like to run a high amperage switch. I think there is an Aircraft Spruce here in Corona by the airport I believe. Do u know what they cost? Oh and John I wasn't even saying to tackle the elec. job your self but to maybe watch, ask Q's and learn if possible. There is no way Id be able to compitently complete a task like the one your Blazer is going to reciev in the future. Oh and Steve I am not sure if I can run each fan off of their own switch I believe they might have come pre-wired to run on one switch. I'll check I am not positive on that. I just dont really like relays all that much just another part to fail in my eyes. I am really leaning towards the switch with the breaker built right into it. Oh and why all of a sudden would the breaker get tripped? A surge in power caused from something?