who ownes what?

[don ron]

in all of the talk of who ownes robbie gordins nascar team. it is said he is the owner so if he is the owner and gets points taken away and is fined why does jimmy smith get find and owner points taken away from him ???

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[ChuckH]

And who ever answers this question has to do it Abbot and Costello style

[FlyHiFlyLo]

in all of the talk of who ownes robbie gordins nascar team. it is said he is the owner so if he is the owner and gets points taken away and is fined why does jimmy smith get find and owner points taken away from him ???

Car numbers are owned by NASCAR and they issue the numbers how they want. It is a very political process. Last year Richard Childress and still till now wants that #7. Even though Robby bought the team from Jimmy, Jimmy is still listed as the owner this helps secure the team as the number was issued 5 years ago. I'm sure if RG does real well this year NASCAR will not try to yank the Number if RG attempts to List himself as the owner in the future.

To answer your question, yes Jimmy gets dinged for the Fine and the points, but he is listed as the owner of Robby Gordon Motorsports. So as far as the fine being paid, Robby Gordon Motorsports writes the check, not Ultra Motorsports.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

(Another Example, Jimmie Johnson is actually owned by Jeff Gordon, but his number 48 is owned by Rick Hendrick Motorsports, does that help explain it a little better?)

Nascar has nothing to say about who gets what numbers...

Nascar has EVERYTHING to do with who gets what #. No team owns their number. The only part of a number a team owns is the style of the number via trademark protection.

Read the post in front of yours to get the truth.

This year, RG will be listed as the team owner.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

People come here for information Fly........when you misinform them, you just make the situation worse. If you don't know something, just refrain from posting as opposed to supplying 100% incorrect information and perpetuating people's questions.

Whatever, you don't know sheit. Don't even post here. Do just a tad bit of research before you talk out yer ares.

[Bohr7]

My apologies to Don and chuck for attempting to answer your questions and getting slammed for it, Chuck you've always been there when I had a question and I tried valiently to return the favor...................I have a Nascar rule book if either one of you feel your questions are important enough to email me for the correct information.

I simply cannot understand why fly feels his chest beating is more important than getting your questions answered correctly.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Sorry, if you just posted the right stuff it wouldn't need to be deleted?

[Bohr7]

My posts were deleted fly because I refuse to be associated with you anymore.......this is the only location that has any substance and true to form, there's always a bad apple in the bunch. I'm just finally going to stick up for myself, I'm tired of watching others do it for me.

The Nascar rule book is illusive for a reason: people like you. My last post was addressed to Don and Chuck, not you, which means you had no reason to answer, but as is customary with your immature and pathetic behavior, you always have to have the last word, as ignorant as those words are. You destroy the integrity of every thread you participate in with your flagrant misinformation, miscalculations and just plain wrong information attempting to make people think you are something you aren't. You live in some fantastical world where you stepped over the line of reality a long time ago. Everyone just dances around your posts without ever addressing your mental instability. I'm breaking every rule stooping to your level, I'm just that fed up with your obsession. This will be the first time I've ever been banned from anything but it gives me great pleasure to know I stood for something in doing it. There's a term out here we use for you fly: Helmet Licker.

I showed your above response to some Cup team members and you provided some very needed humor to the garage, so to that extent...........you can make people laugh. They're laughing AT you fly, not with you.

You've been on my back since I joined this board for no apparent reason other than you can't figure out who I am. You've been 100% wrong on that too. You abuse the reputation feature on this board, you abuse the PM feature, you abuse the email feature, just to be an annoyance. You were banned a few months ago for your behavior and I watched you decline almost immediately after receiving your privileges back............a leopard never changes its spots. If John and Klaus feel you're less than detrimental to this group, then so be it, I can change my participation patterns and just continue to learn from the ones that do have integrity and pray that when they in return have questions, they are smart enough to know you're full of yourself and nothing else.

The RGMS camp has your number fly and so do I. I know exactly who and what you are, which should have kept you from making me an enemy. And uh, yeah, your secret's safe with me.

ps: Richard Childress wants to know if you can ask Nascar if he can keep the number 3............LMAO

[schlosmk]

You go girl.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

You abuse the reputation feature on this board, you abuse the PM feature, you abuse the email feature, just to be an annoyance.

I've PMed you one time in Response to your PM, I've never emailed you. So don't be trying to make anything up. You are the one that is in the dark.

The RGMS camp has your number fly and so do I. I know exactly who and what you are, which should have kept you from making me an enemy. And uh, yeah, your secret's safe with me.

Yep, RGM does have my number(s). They can call anytime.

You abuse the reputation feature on this board

Do I? Hasn't stopped you from using it either.

ps: Richard Childress wants to know if you can ask Nascar if he can keep the number 3............LMAO

Like I said in my first post, NASCAR OWNS and ISSUES THE NUMBERS. You have the F'n rule book... Help us out with the rule that says otherwise.