Watch this if you have a single layer suit

[AZ45]

From F1's early years, but it’s a brutally honest depiction of the importance of quality safety gear.

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Jeff
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[Brandon_Charley]

That's the saddest thing I've ever seen, but I don't think a better fire suit would have saved any of them. I think what's worst of all is that these men had to die for the advancements that save drivers today.

[Sheaco]

I'm at a total loss for words.............

[Moss2]

You could at least anounce a sale on the stuff if you are going to throw that link out again. Luckily man has evolved enough to figure out racing 400hp go-carts wrapped in a cocoon of magnesium and gasoline is not the best of ideas.

[AZ45]

That wasn't really my point, buy we always have stuff on sale. Most Off road cars are obviously not as dangerous as old F1 cars, but it sure shows how ugly fire can be.

For the record, our company has a racing equipment department and we enjoy being envolved in the industry, but it's not what pays the rent.

Jeff
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www.sparcoracing.com

[Sheaco]

You could at least anounce a sale on the stuff if you are going to throw that link out again. Luckily man has evolved enough to figure out racing 400hp go-carts wrapped in a cocoon of magnesium and gasoline is not the best of ideas.

I understand what your saying. I was totally shocked when I saw the video, But it is real life no stunt doubles here. Next time someone reads in the sign up pak " racing is an inherantly dangerous sport and you may injured or KILLED." para phrase. Please don't take this lightly. I applaud UPR for this thread, because it brings to light the real dangers of racing in any form. My mom always said " The truth hurts"

[Moss2]

I realize the intent was to raise awareness on safety. That part of things is great. It just really didnt bring anything to light for me except how disrespectful that video is to the F1 guys in it and their families and loved ones. They didnt used to show racing crashes on TV in which people died out of respect. I hope my kids dont have to have someone at school say "Hey I just saw a video of your dad crashing into a crowd of people, and he sure was burnt!" In my opinion if you already didnt realize that stuff happens you have been brought up in a very sheltered home and dont get out much.

Anyway I think usefull information, like how much theoretical time better gear might give you in a fire, or that soaking your suit in water is going to steam and boil you really quick, should be made aware of. I was kind of disapointed the Pastrana crash thread never really focused much on the cause of the fire or how to prevent it next time. Why didnt the roll over valves work? Did a fitting break off? Were they aluminum fittings? Should we be using steel fittings and lines?

[AZ45]

I agree, I don't like seeing footage like that either, but it gets the point accross. The upside is that you rarely see fires like that in current race cars. It also shows the importance of onboard fire systems and how you need to have an activation point accessable and marked on the car.

As far as the TP fire, that thread was like many...full of opinions without a clear understanding of what happened.

Jeff
www.upr.com
www.sparcoracing.com

[Moss2]

Even the 'safety profesionals' cannot resist pushing the limits when they hear they hear the word Race.



[ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3257544706122089842&q=race+fire&hl =en"]Race for Glory: The Story of Drill Team Racing[/ame]

[Ronin]

The upside is that you rarely see fires like that in current race cars. It also shows the importance of onboard fire systems and how you need to have an activation point accessable and marked on the car.[/url]

The other thing it points out is how far safety workers and equipment have come. You can see in the video that some of the corner workers didn't have a clue what to do or how to operate the fire extinguishers that they had with them. Time was wasted that could have made a difference.