October 17th, 2002, 16:45
I was reading on Off-Road.com that nobody has put up the money for the Weatherman Relay. That would be a shame if the Weatherman relay wasn't there. It is very reassuring to know that you can get intouch with him in case of an emergency! Is this true Scott? Who usually pays to have the Weatherman at the races? I hope it can all be worked out before the race.
October 17th, 2002 16:45
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October 17th, 2002, 18:52
From what I know SCORE helps foot that bill.
I've also heard that in the past Terrible Herbst has helped with the $$$ - Perhaps someone in the Ed - Tim - Troy circle can find out.
October 17th, 2002, 20:17
Each race vehicle entered to race the Baja 1000 is required to pay SCORE a $25.00 radio fee. < per the SCORE Web site.
Pit Support (Riviera Racing)
October 17th, 2002, 21:23
I think what they were referring to on ORC is that during the peninsula run, Bob likes to do his relay from an airplane. The cost for this is substantially above and beyond the normal "radio fee".
October 17th, 2002, 21:52
The Weatherman started doing radio relays in the 70's. Bob Steinberger my father has provided the Weatherman Relay at every Score race for the past 20 years. He has done it so long that everyone expects him to do it. PCI absorbs some of the cost and SCORE also supports the relay financially. In the 92 and 95 point to point Baja 1000 Bob Steinbeger started using an aircraft with long time friend Jim Anders. He paid for the air support out of his own pocket. In 98 some racers and Score pitched in some money to help cover the rising costs of a presurized aircraft. At the Baja 2000 the Herbst and Score made the relay happen and my father went into his pocket for over $5000 dollars. The problem is that there are many costs you just can't plan for, Airports in Mexico close at night so they have to be paid to stay open. The later it gets the higher the landing fees get and the fuel prices go up. Jim Russel of Compcom helps to make this smooth, but you never know what will happen the next time you land. Imagine doing a Relay for the Baja 500. Get up at 4am put up your antennas and try to do Radio tests by 5:30am to the checkpoints. Now Relay all day with no sleep and sometimes no help. The leaders are finishing at dusk. The relay will still be up until every checkpoint is cleared, sometimes hours after the race ends. Now with little or no sleep you load up and haul ass to the awards to see how your son and all the competitors fared at the race. 10 years ago at least 5 to 10 people would thank the Weatherman at the awards, now sometimes no one because it is expected. Now lets go to the Baja 1000 and double the time limit and add an aircraft to the mix. I have only herd stories but can you imagine flying for over 30 hours instruments only at night over the Baja peninsula with almost total darkness down below. Only getting a break every fourth hour when you land to fuel and have to deal with airports that you have to pay more and more money every time you land. How many of you would volunteer to do this for no pay, just your love of the sport? The Weatherman is willing to go up for the Baja 1000 air support relay, but he will not pay for the aircraft out of his own pocket. The estimate for the plane, fuel and landing fees is between 15 and 20,000 for the duration of the race. Score charges a $25 dollar radio fee that everyone bitches about and this will not cover the cost either. Do the math $25 X 180 entries and that is $4500 dollars. Now SCORE needs to rent extra radios and Sat phones to man there checkpoints and safety personal. The costs of this eats up there communication fee. How many of you racers would add another $100 bucks to your entry to help pay for an air support relay? Some of you would pitch in, but without a commitment of 20,000 the plane will not fly. Everyone always tells me that they love listening to my father in the middle of the night in Baja waiting to hear if there car is still coming, and that having him up makes them feel safer. However this does not pay for an aircraft. Some have said Score should pay, but Score is in the same boat that all you racers are in. The Baja 1000 is the most awesome race in the world, but it is the most expensive also. The logistics make it tough and expensive, but that is why we love it. I know in my Trophy Truck I have revised my budget 3 times and still keep finding more hidden costs. How can you leave anything to chance for the Baja 1000? My father the Weatherman may not fly at this years Baja 1000, but I am proud of what he has done for more than 20 years. He has helped most of us multiple times over the years, helped save lives during medical emergencies, and is there until the end at every race. Sometimes in a great mood and sometimes grumpy and tired he has always been there for us tireless "THE WEATHERMAN". I love you Dad and you make me proud!
God Bless America
Scott Steinberger Trophy Truck #7
October 17th, 2002, 22:06
You guys both rock!
"I was thinking the exact same thing about you..."
October 17th, 2002, 22:11
Amen to that!
October 17th, 2002, 22:37
The weatherman rules, everybody know it.iPersonally havent raced Score, but ive gone to a couple and race CODE races.Being an "outsider" to Score races, i think a bigger radio fee is not an issue. The issue is Score's to doing the right thing and reinvesting in their money machine. At Code races the pro entry fee is 300 bucks, 100+ cars = about 24.000 a race plus money from the series or race sponsors, beer sponsors. How much money does Score rake in per race, cant they aford working a bit to get a sponsor for the coverage, or partial sponsor.?How much does Duralast sponsor?. If San Felipe's Chamber of Commerce can sponsor 500.00 cash price for next CODES race, cant score get 5.000 from a us chamber of commerce, tourism,companies??
Easy math: 10 entry fees out of x? racers at 1000 bucks=10.000 bucks + 10.000 sponsorship.
Even Tecate would take the deal, and maybe film the race at he same time and market it, every body will buy one. So Score needs radios and trucks, how much would you spend to have $150. 000 + total entry fees + sponsorhips. id figure the sponsorships would pay the race organziation, and entry fees are cheese, at least 50% profit.
I agree SCORE is the premier off road racing organization, so why no TV, little bit of magazines, no Interviews, Talk shows, specials. Havent known one guy that ask to take off road racing off or change the channel when its on. Big marketing issues, and i'm just somebody looking at Score races from the inside out. Hell, Code has been on in Arizona TV and i think Scores hasnt.Something stinks, is it me ??...
Time to give a little back...
el tiburon y sus dos centavos mexicanos.
"if something can go wrong, it'll probably will"
October 18th, 2002, 08:01
Scott.....PCI and The WEATHER MAN are one of the Corner Stones of this sport. Without you...this sport would step back many steps. Thank you for all of your Help and Support.
October 18th, 2002, 08:56
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