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January 11th, 2008, 08:59
#1
Straw Man
Why Muslims cannot be Good Americans
Thought lots of my RDC friends could enjoy this...GOD BLESS AMERICA!
CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to finish.......... and send it on to anyone who will read it.
Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities.....
Can a good Muslim be a good American?
This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20
years.
The following is his reply:
Theologically - no. . . . Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon God of Arabia.
Religiously - no. . . . Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256) (Koran).
Scripturally - no. . . . Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.
Geographically - no. . . . Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no. . . . Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically - no. . . . Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the
great Satan.
Domestically - no.. . . . Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).
Intellectually - no. . . . Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically - no. . . . Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - no. . . . Because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as
Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99 excellent names. - - - Therefore after much study and deliberation.... Perhaps we
should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. - - - They obviously cannot be both "good" Muslims and good Americans.
* * * Call it what you wish..it's still the truth.
* * * You had better believe it.
* * * The more who understand this, the better it! will be for our country and our future. The religious war is bigger than we know or understand. . . .
And Barack Hussein Obama, a Muslim, wants to be our President? You have GOT to be kidding! Wake up America!
Obama even says if he wins the election, he will be sworn in on the Quran---not a Bible!
Another article..
Obama mentioned his church during his appearance with Oprah. It's the Trinity Church of Christ. I found this interesting. I also checked it out with snopes....their explanation is below the church website link....
you decide....
Obama's church:
Please read and go to this church's website and read what is written there. It is very alarming.
Barack Obama is a member of this church and is running for President of the U.S. If you look at the first page of their web site, you will learn that this congregation has a non-negotiable
commitment to Africa. No where is AMERICA even mentioned. Notice too, what color you will need to be if you should want to join Obama's church... B-L-A-C-K!!! Doesn't look like his choice of religion has improved much over his (former?) Muslim upbringing.
Strip away his nice looks, the big smile and smooth talk and what do you get? Certainly a racist, as plainly defined by the stated position of his church! And possibly a covert worshiper of the Muslim faith, even today. This guy desires to rule over America while his loyalty is totally vested in a Black Africa? I cannot believe this has not been all over the TV and newspapers.
This is why it is so important to pass this message along to all of our family & friends. To think that Obama has even the slightest chance in the run for the presidency, is really scary.
Click on the link below:
This is the web page for the church Barack Obama belongs to:
Click here: Trinity United Church of Christ
THIS IS THE SNOPES.COM LINK:
Urban Legends Reference Pages: Barack Obama - Trinity Church of Christ

Originally Posted by
coilover88
....BTW, we are Americans now. How can we be one people if we deliberately self-segregate?
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January 11th, 2008, 09:03
#2
Straw Man
Re: Why Muslims cannot be Good Americans
Oh crap my links don't work...eeek someone please help me out with that, never put links in a posting before
...thanks

Originally Posted by
coilover88
....BTW, we are Americans now. How can we be one people if we deliberately self-segregate?
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January 11th, 2008, 09:07
#3
O.G. Photo
Re: Why Muslims cannot be Good Americans
You mean there are no whites in Africa??
http://www.mikesracephoto.com -JNV R.I.P.-
"Know when to shoot...And when to Scoot"

Originally Posted by
Dirtworks Films
Learn from yesterday, Live for today, Hope for tomorrow.
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January 11th, 2008, 09:30
#4
Elite
Re: Why Muslims cannot be Good Americans
Here is your link ...
http://www.tucc.org/about.htm
And below are the 10 points you refer to in your post ... they include a committment to Biblical Education ...
You can also hit this link to read the REST of the Slopes Urban Legends post that more or less quashes the suggestion that Obama's church is somehow Un-American. There is a reason why the site you refer to is called Urban Legends ...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/church.asp
No offense to you as a Christian or a Patriot. But as Americans, we should be able to form our opinions based on ALL the information available to us. If we don't, we start toying with the type of close-mindedness and intolerance that (I agree with you) runs so rampant in the Muslim world.
The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:
1. A congregation committed to ADORATION.
2. A congregation preaching SALVATION.
3. A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
4. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
5. A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
6. A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
7. A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
8. A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
9. A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
10. A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.
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January 11th, 2008, 09:36
#5
Accepted
Re: Why Muslims cannot be Good Americans
What a worthless thread. You should be ashamed of yourself for repeating that sort of garbage. Utter and complete ignorance.
"Buy the ticket, take the ride."
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January 11th, 2008, 09:39
#6
Re: Why Muslims cannot be Good Americans
Allah allah allahverga.-George lopez
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January 11th, 2008, 09:43
#7
Elite
Re: Why Muslims cannot be Good Americans

Originally Posted by
mflo
What a worthless thread. You should be ashamed of yourself for repeating that sort of garbage. Utter and complete ignorance.
i agree dude. tolerance, look it up. this is not a race/religion/gender/sexual preference bashing forum.
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January 11th, 2008, 09:57
#8
Straw Man
Re: Why Muslims cannot be Good Americans
Tolerance??? You wanna talk tolerance and ignorance??
OK, we as Americans are supposed to stand idly by while people gather under the Constitutionally protected right to assemble. They assemble under the guise of Islamic religion. What they do at these gathering is dicuss possible way to destroy us IN OUR OWN COUNTRY! (I'm not saying asll Muslims do this. However, it has been documented)
Tolerance? I should TOLERATE THIS??? Your questioning of my motives makes me doubt your patriotism. Ignorance??? No, only he who knows nothing about the other persons background and knowledge of the topic is the truly ignorant one.
It was never my intention or desire to "bash" anyone, but to spread more information regarding SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THIS COUNTRY.
If you can't see that, look up ignorance yourself.
Oh by the way, this IS the WHATEVER forum.

Originally Posted by
coilover88
....BTW, we are Americans now. How can we be one people if we deliberately self-segregate?
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January 11th, 2008, 10:08
#9
Administrator
Re: Why Muslims cannot be Good Americans
This thread is an attack on religion and not welcomed on this forum.
Here in America all religions are welcome as a free society.