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September 18th, 2008, 16:56
#1
Senior
how long should a bus box last
i had a new bus box built buy a business/guy, that claims he builds good stuff blah blah blah. he knew the application was for racing . well 300 race miles later there is something wrong with it. not sure what it is yet, but i guess my question is. how long should one last? i have had people tell me there is no gaurantee in racing and others tell me i should contact the builder and he should stand behind his work. it is an 091 bus box, with a very tame 1835cc engine racing in sportsman, and the car was not wrecked or in no way pushed hard at all.
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September 18th, 2008 16:56
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September 18th, 2008, 16:57
#2
Elite
Re: how long should a bus box last
you should not have any problems with it for a long long time. we have our trans in the 1600 car and change the oil after every race and have it looked at after two races and like new. your not putting that much of a beating on it. call and ask him. what parts went bad?
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September 18th, 2008, 17:11
#3
Ironman
Re: how long should a bus box last
There are Bus Boxes and there are Bus Boxes. If you paid anything less than $3,500 for it, it is not going to hold up to much racing, even in Sportsman behind a 1835. Without knowing what is broken it could be as simple as a reverse gear (they are made of glass) to a broken stock carrier or stock gear. Get it to a race trany builder like PowerBox, JG Transwerks, Folts or any of the others that know what they are doing.
Ramsey El Wardani
Smarter Than Dirt!
One Man Racing
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September 18th, 2008, 17:18
#4
Senior
Re: how long should a bus box last
A lot depends on the driver as well. Some fast guys are easy on equip some aren't same goes for the slow guys. Bottom line though go to a reputable off road trans builder because some guy can build street trans doesn't mean they can build a desert trans they are a totally different animal. I use JG and have had great luck with Joe.
-Derek
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September 18th, 2008, 17:23
#5
Crayola Killer
Re: how long should a bus box last

Originally Posted by
Ramsey_ElWardani
There are Bus Boxes and there are Bus Boxes. If you paid anything less than $3,500 for it, it is not going to hold up to much racing, even in Sportsman behind a 1835. Without knowing what is broken it could be as simple as a reverse gear (they are made of glass) to a broken stock carrier or stock gear. Get it to a race trany builder like PowerBox, JG Transwerks, Folts or any of the others that know what they are doing.
What he said!!
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September 18th, 2008, 17:28
#6
Forum Junkie
Re: how long should a bus box last
I am very pleased with Folts's work and they are up front with you on any questions you may have.
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September 18th, 2008, 17:55
#7
Senior
Re: how long should a bus box last
all i know so far is that it was making a wierd noise when in the upper rpms in 3rd and 4th., so we put it on the trailer. when we drained the oil we found metal, i think it was aluminum in the oil. then we lost reverse. the guy mostly builds for sand toys but claimed he would be what we needed. and it was in the 3k range
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September 18th, 2008, 17:58
#8
RDC Addicted
Re: how long should a bus box last
It all depends on what parts he used and how nice you were to it.
We use J&S Transaxles in Lake Havasu. We change the oil after every race and Jason goes through it after two races.
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September 18th, 2008, 19:14
#9
Re: how long should a bus box last
If you use a stock VW clutch disc with the springs in the disc, the tranny will last years. I run that disk in my 1600 car and have found nothing wrong with the tranny to the point it does not come apart anymore for 10 races or more. I have another box, an 002 with the stock diff in it, and it has not been apart in 15 years with 0 concern it will break It has the 542 RP and has at least 35 races on the RP running the stock clutch. The RP I have in my 1600 car has at least 30 races on it or more. I changed to a differint RP last year for better gear ratios, but would have no problem racing with that RP again. It has not had a easy life,besides me driving it, PAB, Danimal Martin, Jake Batulis, Paul Keller and Justin Smith to name some that have abused it, and race after race we would not even pay attention to it. That RP was a 486. I now have a 457 which should last even longer. . The clutch disk is the best kept secret a tranny builder will keep from you. IT WORKS. I call it a poor mans questeck. I have only had 1 clutch disc fail, and that was because the engine studs broke and broke the clutch. PAB was destroying RP in as little as 10 miles, and busted 10 or more folts trannys untell he changed the disk, his tranny problems went away overnight. It will save you bigtime money. 4 puck disks just tear trannys up.
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September 18th, 2008, 20:59
#10
Elite
Re: how long should a bus box last
Like they said go to a reputable builder. I had 2500 pre run miles on my 091 with no problems. It had a diff and close ratio 3rd and 4th. I had it rebuilt after robbing the gears out of it when I needed one, and it broke the stock 2nd gear after 75 miles. No matter who builds it sometimes they just break.