vorra group T

[y2kbaja]

From Wes on Vorra.net

"Trucks, Trucks, Trucks


What do we do with all these TRUCKS????


We’ve decided not to create a new Truck class. We’d rather create a new Truck RACE!

VORRA, with the help of Samco Fabrication, would like to introduce the “Group T” Truck Series for the 2009 VORRA Race Season. One-part VORRA, one-part “Truck”, & one-part “Rally” we felt inspired to take a new approach.

We’ve gone back and forth on what truck class rules to adopt, but the fact is, no one class really fits the diverse group of truck guys and gals out there. We started thinking; when you’re around a campfire working out your biceps, and your buddies all start arguing which limited truck class is King, who’s the best bet? Well, were planning to find out……………

“Group T” will consist of trucks from a variety of truck disciplines in a shoot-out for bragging rights to the truck that does it all. If you’re not with us so far, let’s explain some ground rules:

Class 7200 Bring It…..
Class 1450 Bring It…..
Class 6 Bring It…….
Class 8 Bring It……
Pro Truck Bring It……
Trophy Lite Bring It……

But don’t even think about mixing and matching. You only get to register under one category, and you’ll be held to the standard. We think that each one has its’ strengths, but funny thing is, they usually coexist with a weakness that opens the door for the next guys’ power play. Interesting isn’t it??

Well, Samco thinks it worth 500 bucks to find out who will earn the crown if all the trucks went “head to head”. That being said, here’s the deal: eligible trucks will run under “Group T” and compete for a combined purse as well as have a shot at overall desert money. As an added bonus Samco will post a $500 “Group T” prize for the 2009 Yerington 300. The points series will also be something to see. Who will survive the desert as well as get things done at Prairie City in what could be the largest class, scratch that, I mean “Group” in VORRA?

I know the Class 7 guys are freaking out right now but listen; Class 7 is still alive and well. The Class 7 trucks that have not outgrown the rulebook should race each other and continue to have a great time doing it. I should mention, Class 7 can jump in with the rest, but we’d like to see the purists have a chance to stick together as long as they like.

Class 8’s and Trophy lites may also prefer to stick with their own, but hey, the invitation stands. Sorry Trophy Trucks, but this party does have its standards.

Above is a brief summary of a concept that is still evolving to some extent. VORRA is excited to bring a new idea to the scene. Some skin in the game helps too. Thanks to Samco, now we can get serious. We’ll need to refine things moving forward, and I’m sure there will be questions. Think it over a bit, please help us perfect the concept, but most of all, get those trucks ready."

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[DontHateClass8]

I cant wait... no but seriously

[HardCharger81]

I asked this on the vorra.net forum and I didn't get an answer.

Will the trucks then be raced against eachother on the track (Praire City)
Or will we all race in our respective classes, and all of this will be just on paper?

[Samco Fab]

I asked this on the vorra.net forum and I didn't get an answer.

Will the trucks then be raced against eachother on the track (Praire City)
Or will we all race in our respective classes, and all of this will be just on paper?

I am speaking from my own understanding ( I am not the guy that writes the rules), but all these classes will race against each other. If you have a 7200 truck, you must fit that catagory in tech, but you line up next to say a 1450 truck, and a Protruck might be hunting you down

All the trucks in Group T will be mixed together, once you pass tech, there will be no difference between any of the trucks, you race everyone in the class the same.

The one thing not yet mentioned, is that I personally felt that the Protrucks should have to fit all the rules that are layed out to be a legal "Protruck", meaning that there are not "Prophy" trucks allowed. At the same time, the Protrucks should be allowed to run any tire manufacturer and wheel manufacturer, as long as the size is the same. Those poor guys have to change tire brands almost every year.

[y2kbaja]

The one thing not yet mentioned, is that I personally felt that the Protrucks should have to fit all the rules that are layed out to be a legal "Protruck", meaning that there are not "Prophy" trucks allowed. At the same time, the Protrucks should be allowed to run any tire manufacturer and wheel manufacturer, as long as the size is the same. Those poor guys have to change tire brands almost every year.

But wouldn't the protrucks changing tires not make them a legal protruck? That is one of the rules in that class that can't be changed. And their rules are so stringent, who is going to enforce them? Not that we have protrucks racing.

[BCGIrish]

This is going to be cool to watch at Prarie City.

[Samco Fab]

But wouldn't the protrucks changing tires not make them a legal protruck? That is one of the rules in that class that can't be changed. And their rules are so stringent, who is going to enforce them? Not that we have protrucks racing.

Yes, it would not make them a legal Protruck, but it might make it easier on them, and make them want to race in Group T. It seems that the Protruck sancioning body changes tires every year, and that probably is hard for the guys with those trucks, and they probably have a bunch of last years tires laying around. If they could run any tire, it might make them more likely to race, but not make them really any faster. Everything else should be standard Protruck to keep them limited. I guess we all would have to police each other in the class. I might have to read up on Protrucks.....

[BFD RACING]

If you race group t do you still race in your class as well?

[Samco Fab]

If you race group t do you still race in your class as well?

No, Group T is the class, the rules for each specific class are just there for tech. You would have to fit the rule catagories in tech, and not mix and match rules for your own benefit.

The cool thing about the class would be the larger group of trucks racing. Instead of a three truck class 8 group, and two class 6 trucks, and some rogue 1450 trucks running in class 7, you get an easy 10 car class if you get a few trucks from down south coming up north, hell mabye even a Protruck or two. The idea was to draw people to come race, and be able to race in a bigger class.

If you look at the rules for each one of the classes in the group, there is not one class with a clear cut advantage, you could win with any one of those classes that fit in Group T.

I think this is all still in the idea stage, and still up for flexibility. We were the brainchild of the idea, and wanted to support the growth of Vorra, but by no means are we the ones that make any sort of decision. We were just offering a few bucks to try to get a big class together and have some good racing, and that racing will probably include a couple of Group T trucks from our shop

[BCGIrish]

No, Group T is the class, the rules for each specific class are just there for tech. You would have to fit the rule catagories in tech, and not mix and match rules for your own benefit.

Something to remember is it is not the Tech Inspectors job to find you a class or ensure you fit into that class. They normally only check safety.

The cool thing about the class would be the larger group of trucks racing. Instead of a three truck class 8 group, and two class 6 trucks, and some rogue 1450 trucks running in class 7, you get an easy 10 car class if you get a few trucks from down south coming up north, hell mabye even a Protruck or two. The idea was to draw people to come race, and be able to race in a bigger class.

If you look at the rules for each one of the classes in the group, there is not one class with a clear cut advantage, you could win with any one of those classes that fit in Group T.

I completely agree with this. Really if you look at the 1400/1450's in MDR you will see that just because someone has a V8 doesn't mean anything. The 2 races we went to last year were won by smaller trucks, I believe one was a Tacoma and the other was a Ranger. I know at Vorra races we have passed some of the class 8's before so the winners aren't really the ones with the horses, like all desert races it comes down to attrition.