Only ONE promoter allowed in MDR and MORE territory

[Shred918]

This argument is killing me............. want to level the playing field you should have built a pro class truck. With what some of these sportsman truck have invested in them I just don't see the logic of building a truck for this class. There are 2 buggy classes and 2 truck classes for sportsman, whatever you fit into run it..............

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[Blackmutt]

Can a leaf spring truck enter MORE 1400?

Yes, a leaf spring truck can race in 1400.

[sloride]

I co dog this one and the Courier

http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/sho...brandon+arthur

You guys race the truck in this video in 1450?

[07FJRog]

yes, it will be at the next drive race, and was going to be at the lucerne one, but we did not make it.

[sloride]

That truck should be racing 1400. If the driver has any experience racing then IMHO he shouldn't be sandbaggin' in 1450.

[G.A.S.]

This argument is killing me............. want to level the playing field you should have built a pro class truck. With what some of these sportsman truck have invested in them I just don't see the logic of building a truck for this class. There are 2 buggy classes and 2 truck classes for sportsman, whatever you fit into run it..............

One thing you gotta think about here is most of the trucks racing didn't start out as race trucks. They started out as prerunners and over the many, many years, turned into race trucks.

Just race where you want to race. Who gives a crap what others say or think? Just go out and have fun.

[usmcgunrock]

The 1500 class that MDR was starting up had a lot of people talking about racing. So MORE and 1400 would be a good place for them. Me personally I think the sportsman truck classes have gone away from what they were originally designed for. This whole its a sportsman class, its a pro class. What ever happened to class 7? Sportsman was suppose to be the prerunner/weekend warrior that wanted to race here and there. Class 7 was the guys that would race all the time and go for points and stuff. So why did 1400 turn into the class 7? Maybe someone can enlighten me some.

Also keep in mind MORE is not MDR. If you don't like there rules and don't want to work with the racers to try in change them. Then don't race with MORE. Hold out for when and if MDR starts racing again. People are acting like they have something owed to them to race a certain class. If you don't like it don't race with them. They don't owe you anything.

[WFODAN]

The popularity of the 1400/1450 classes has been clearly shown over time. Truth be told, I don't think people like the idea of needing a 20K motor just to be competitive in class 7. Not to mention the different track width rules along with the frame rules depending on what promoter you choose to race with is a nightmare. Racing 20 years ago was alot different than racing is today. If someone can't see or understand the lack of interest in racing most of the 1972 ruled truck classes then I am not sure how I could explain it. 20 years ago when there was alot of factory money in the truck classes, and bigger names racing in them it added a little appeal. Without that, the classes have just become what they are. Over done in the rules department, and expensive in the parts department. Not to mention the entries are so low that some classes really need to be eliminated or combined with other dieing classes. This was where I was headed with the 1500 class rules. It combined everything from Stock mini, 7s, 3, stock full, and basically anything else with a stock mounting point front end and motor rules to go along with it. Everything evolves, and desert racing is no different. Just as the cars/trucks have changed over the years, the classes have also. The 1450 class is a catch all class. If you have a steel cab and working doors along with the all the safety and tech stuff then you can race. You don't need a 100K truck to feel competitive. Most run over the counter parts that can be replaced fairly cheap when they fail. The entry fees are dirt cheap, and contingency is the same as just about any other class. You could line up against just about anything in the 1400/1450 class and have a real race on your hands. The guy beside me might have a 500+hp V8, and I have a 250hp V6, and that just adds to the excitement and challenge for me to beat him. If we both had to race a 78 inch wide stock frame ill handling truck with three to four times the cost to race it would take the fun out of it for me. 1400/1450 is good cheap fun that everyone is welcome to join in on if you meet the two simple rules. That is the popularity and draw of the classes. Oh ya.... We also had 72 actual starters at this years SNORE Battle At Primm! That is not common for any class. I think we will get more next year there also.


The debate between the 1400/1450 racers of MDR and MORE will never end. Jim set it up for that. MORE did not have a 1450 class until Jim saw the success MDR had with it for years. MORE is also the only local series that did not adopt the standard 1450 rules. SNORE did and look at the success they have with the class. Jim did not, and he draws 5 1450 trucks per race on average. Those 5 are the guys that don't want the legal everywhere else 1450 trucks to race in their class. In the end though it is what it is. Some may race with MORE and some may not. MORE has the right to not allow anyone they want to race in their events. It is Jims business, and he can run it as he likes. Some racers like his ways and some don't. Some racers are worried that they might not fit in Jims mold, but I think it is premature to say MORE is the only game in town, when that is not a fact yet. Even if MDR will be done, I can see another promoter stepping in to run in the Mojave Desert. Time will tell the tale.

[Shred918]

..............and its sportsman

[Blackmutt]

Some racers are worried that they might not fit in Jims mold, but I think it is premature to say MORE is the only game in town, when that is not a fact yet. Even if MDR will be done, I can see another promoter stepping in to run in the Mojave Desert. Time will tell the tale.

I think we're going to need another promoter. 150+ entries on Barstow course B (36 mile loop) is going to be pretty crowded. I agree that in time, a new promoter will come into the picture.