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    Havasu area NEEDS HELP QUICKLY !

    I picked this up locally TODAY !! 8/26/10 kh



    HAVASU RESIDENTS ARE ABOUT TO LOSE THEIR TRAILS IF EVERYONE DOESN'T TAKE ACTION IMMEDIATELY!
    Contact Numbers:

    BLM: (928) 505-1200
    Main Contact: Myron McCoy (928) 505-1216

    ************************************************** ***************


    3-4 years ago BLM requested from the local clubs to assist them with acquiring all the GPS coordinates to all the trails located in Havasu. They told us it was to "protect us from loosing our public land." The local clubs gladly accepted using their own GPS units and off road vehicles to drive BLM representatives through every trail in Havasu. This was all volunteer BLM did not financially assist anyone with this.

    Two days ago BLM held a meeting to close most of the off road trails in Lake Havasu City. They did not advertise until two days before that they were having a meeting, in the middle of August when most of our residence (winter visitors) would not be in town. They pushed the already set meeting from November to August without notifying us and probably hoped no one would show up. Local clubs found out about the meeting and showed up for the meeting only to find that they were giving us 30 days to "justify" why they should keep the trails open. The maps they provided were poor topo maps that had no GIS features on them what so ever (no streets, land marks or any other identifying marks). We were unable to determine what or where the trails were due to there being no GPS coordinates on the trail identifiers. We also asked them to identify why the identified trails were being closed and they could not provide us that information. When we asked them how to obtain that information so we could go justify trails that need to stay open they told us it would take "60-90 days to figure that out and they were not even sure if they could get us the information that we need to justify keeping our trails open. Mind you we only have 30 days to do this, did I mention the average temperature has been around 115-120 out here in Havasu during the time we have to complete this?

    We need all the help we can get, this ALL of OUR public land that we pay taxes to use and we are very close to loosing. This effects everyone, from the family who is riding bikes, quads, and side by sides to the hunter who is out trying harvest an animal on his/her dream hunt. What about the nature watcher or the geo-cacher? It affects us all, even the economy here in Havasu. Local gas stations, convenience stores, auto repair shops, off road shops, fabrication shops, motor cycle shops, etc.

    Is there anyway you can forward this email link to your members, family and friends? Pirate4X4.com is assisting us by putting up a letter generator. What this does is it makes extremely simple for anyone to send Havasu BLM an email to let them know that they need to extend the Travel Management Plan from 30 days to more. All you have to do is click on the link and take one minute out of your day to let BLM know how you feel in your own words. This letter generator was set up from the same guys who helped save the Rubicon and they have offered to help us.

    Go here: http://www.pirate4x4.com/letters/

    Fill out the info here is an example of what I put in the letter.

    Dear Local On The Ground,

    I am writing to ask you to extend the comment and review period for the Havasu Travel Management Plan for 60 days beyond September 17. This additional time is important for proper review of the information and maps. for this process to be handled appropriately, everyone needs ample time to do a thorough study to make reasonable decisions instead of rushing because of a short timeline. An extended timeline will benefit everyone involved.

    Sincerely,

    Shane Miller Parker 4 Wheelers
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    Re: Havasu area NEEDS HELP QUICKLY !

    i see a all out war coming to a desert near you .sometimes people only get it when pain is inflected.
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    Re: Havasu area NEEDS HELP QUICKLY !

    Sad but true. The trails all over the Lake Havasu City area up for closure unless everyone gets involved. Here is the blm link to see the maps of the proposed closed areas for yourself. website
    http://www.blm.gov/az/st/en/fo/lake_havasu_field.html
    To send an e mail: Lake_Havasu@blm.gov or to myron mycoy@blm.gov Ph # 928-855-1216 or 1-888-213-2582

    It looks like the public comment has been extended until Oct 31,2010 which is good. The local jeep clubs have been very involved with the proccess which has helped but I feel the majority of the desert users are motorcycle, atv, and utv riders. I'd like to know if any one would be intetrested in joining or being a part of a off road riders club for the area? Any help or comments on starting one would be appreciated. Lance Cramer 928-486-9145 or Lance@LanceCramer.com

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    Re: Havasu area NEEDS HELP QUICKLY !

    There is more info to be found. I have been spending a lot of time trying to sort through all of this. For now, please take a moment and check out these links-

    http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=909456

    http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/...owtopic=216104

    http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/...owtopic=216136

    The buck does not stop at Havasu. If you live in or visit Parker area, Kingman/Lake Alamo area, tucson, Phoenix, Gila-these and more are all soon to be on the chopping block as well.

    Take a minute and send a nice letter to BLM at least. If you have specific experience with that area, let them know about it so that they can hear that someone loves, uses, and cares for a particular trail.

    One disturbing fact that keeps coming up-local off-road clubs were approched some years ago by the BLM to assist with keeping their trails open by GPS mapping them. Only too happy to help, many did. Guess what trails are now up for closure? We were duped into mapping out our own closures. This information was not used for preserving our trails, but rather often for mapping them to close down!

    Thanks to all who for your help!!
    Remember, if it were easy, all the kids would be doing it!
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    Re: Havasu area NEEDS HELP QUICKLY !

    Quote Originally Posted by DJDIRTWORKS View Post
    There is more info to be found. I have been spending a lot of time trying to sort through all of this. For now, please take a moment and check out these links-

    http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=909456

    http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/...owtopic=216104

    http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/...owtopic=216136

    The buck does not stop at Havasu. If you live in or visit Parker area, Kingman/Lake Alamo area, tucson, Phoenix, Gila-these and more are all soon to be on the chopping block as well.

    Take a minute and send a nice letter to BLM at least. If you have specific experience with that area, let them know about it so that they can hear that someone loves, uses, and cares for a particular trail.

    One disturbing fact that keeps coming up-local off-road clubs were approched some years ago by the BLM to assist with keeping their trails open by GPS mapping them. Only too happy to help, many did. Guess what trails are now up for closure? We were duped into mapping out our own closures. This information was not used for preserving our trails, but rather often for mapping them to close down!

    Thanks to all who for your help!!
    Great information to pay attention too. The BLM wants specifics as to why a certain route (trail) should stay open by number. If you look at the comment sheet through the BLM there is a place for that number. They don't just want people to say, "leave it all open", but why a particular trail should remain open and not closed. Yes they have most 4 wheel drive trails because the local jeep clubs gps'ed them. They were told that the inventoried trails would remain open 4 or 5 years ago since this started. I remember that being the talk back then also. Well they were duped in my opinion. The jeep clubs are commenting to the BLM why all theses trails they use should stay open, but that's the trails they use. My problem is what about the single track motorcycle trails, quad trails, and utv trails. Are all of those trails on these maps? I can't really tell? So how do the "off road riders" say what they want to remain open. What about the real rock crawler loops? Are those mapped and even up for discussion? If someone has experience first hand with these issues please give us some insite on the best approach. Thanks.

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    Re: Havasu area NEEDS HELP QUICKLY !

    Just in case no one has seen this, it appears the comment period has been extended...

    From the AZBLM website:

    Release Date: 08/27/10
    Contacts: Mike Brown , 928-718-3756


    BLM Lake Havasu Travel Management Planning Comment Period Extended

    Lake Havasu City, Ariz. -The public comment period for the Havasu Travel Management Plan and Environmental Assessment has been extended to October 31, 2010.

    “Since our open house on August 18, we’ve received over 500 comments from the public for consideration when we prepare the Environmental Assessment for the Havasu Travel Management Plan,” said Bureau of Land Management Lake Havasu Field Manager Ramone McCoy.

    McCoy added that 88 people attended the open house and the BLM received many comments asking for the scoping period to be extended.

    The Assessment will evaluate all of the motorized and non-motorized routes of travel and their affected resources in the current inventory of existing routes in the study area. The Assessment will have three transportation route network alternatives designating each route as open, limited or closed. The Havasu Travel Management Planning area generally includes public lands in the Lake Havasu Field Office south of Interstate 40 (both sides of the Colorado River), extending to five to seven miles north of the Bill Williams River.

    Maps of the Havasu Unit can be reviewed online at http://www.blm.gov/az/st/en/fo/lake_havasu_field.html or by contacting Myron McCoy, Outdoor Recreation Planner at the BLM Lake Havasu Field Office, 2610 Sweetwater, Lake Havasu City, AZ 86406; Telephone (928) 505-1216.

    Public comments for consideration during the Environmental Assessment preparation need to be postmarked by October 31, 2010. Comments may also be faxed – (928) 505-1208 or emailed to lake_havasu@blm.gov.
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    Re: Havasu area NEEDS HELP QUICKLY !

    There will be a meeting tonight on how to comment to the BLM on which trails should remain open and why.

    Havasu Springs will be hosting a comment writing workshop on Thursday September 9th from 6-8 pm. This workshop will give you the knowledge to write an effective comment that will get results that can not be ignored by BLM. So please forward this email to your friends, family and business owners so everyone can take part in keeping our public lands public. If you have any questions please feel free to contact me.


    Havasu Springs is located at:
    2581 Arizona 95
    Parker, AZ 85344-8701
    (928) 667-1073


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