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September 14th, 2010, 06:34
#1
Elite
Short-Course Racing a "Green" Motorsport
The current state of desert racing will continue to see changes due to government regulations and mandates.
Has anyone ever considered that "Short Course" racing as "Green" form of off-road racing?
We use a limited amount of private land, don't disrupt the eco system, and the racers use less petroleum based fuels than the typical desert racer on any given weekend (not including what is used to pre-run events in Baja).
Just a random thought....
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September 14th, 2010 06:34
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September 14th, 2010, 11:20
#2
Loyal
Re: Short-Course Racing a "Green" Motorsport
Are you kidding me? is this a serious post? Maybe you should look at the name of the site you are posting this thread on. RACE-DEZERT, I know for the ignorant the Z might be too much code for them to break (thats in place of an s). This is a site that was founded on the sport that you seem to be trashing, and yes the words you are using are trashing it.
"The current state of desert racing will continue to see changes due to government regulations and mandates."
Yes it will continue to see changes, but then we all are facing changes due to some pretty bad choices sitting in the seats of power in this country.
"We use a limited amount of private land,"
We use a limited amount of public land that we have payed for here in California with green stickers, though through more morons in power they are ripping our rights to that land from us.
"don't disrupt the eco system,"
Have you been to a desert race? Do you really know what you are talking about? We love the desert, we clean up the desert. I was out with Lucho and listened to him talk of managing the existing roads at his disposal in order to cause the least amount of impact.
"and the racers use less petroleum based fuels than the typical desert racer on any given weekend (not including what is used to pre-run events in Baja)."
Are you counting all of those dirty polluting, desert destroying West Coast teams making the pull out to support TORC races? How about fans driving to the races? Perhaps we can put you in charge of PR for the Sierra Club because honestly reading your post made me feel the same as what I hear from them.
Just a few random thoughts...
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September 14th, 2010, 11:27
#3
Ironman
Re: Short-Course Racing a "Green" Motorsport
The current state of Desert Racing is just fine. There have been several major Desert Races since the accident and they have gone off without a hitch. There are several more scheduled though the end of 2010 with no significant changes in place.
THE SKY IS NOT FALLING!
1) The BLM has not made any decisions or new rules to date and are still reviewing the situation. They are taking everything on a case by case basis and are holding off on the drawing for the 2011 race dates – that is all.
2) The other thing I am sure of is that all the speculation on this site and in general, and declarations of new rules and a new age in California Desert Racing IS A BAD IDEA. Everyone should stop throwing our sport under the bus, and running around with their tails between their legs. We have an excellent record of safe racing for 30 or more years, that is what we should be talking about. NOTHING IS CHANGING – we will continue to race in the deserts of California in the same responsible and safe manner that we always have. That is the only message we should chanting.
Ramsey El Wardani
Smarter Than Dirt!
One Man Racing
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September 14th, 2010, 11:49
#4
Loyal
Re: Short-Course Racing a "Green" Motorsport
I love Desert racing, I love Short Course racing. They both come from the same place, a desire to take a vehicle and put it through things the daily driver version was never intended to do, and beat the other people to the finish line doing it. I am sorry if I sounded harsh in my earlier post. Its just funny that people instead of saying what they do is cool, seem to try and say what you do or love is not as cool. The plain and simple fact is we all are all under the watchful eye of a radical environmental movement who hates what we do no matter where we do it.
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September 14th, 2010, 12:50
#5
Elite
Re: Short-Course Racing a "Green" Motorsport
Hey I didn't mean to stir the pot. And yes I was stretching the bounds of "Green."
Just like Indycar running on ethanol fuel and they call that part of their "Green" initiative.
As long as there's a BITD and a SCORE there will always be a strong desert racing community in the southwest. The desert community is what really drives the industry as a whole.
My point in this reply is if you love desert racing, more people need to get involved. Volunteer, help with the actual event, not just be a participant.
That's why back in the Midwest, MORR was created. That's why I'm involved.
Heck, there's been days when I get tired of hearing the same voices wanting something changed but won't spend the time to come up with a solution, but some crazy voice inside my head keep me going and enjoying almost every minute.
Besides practically everyone I've ever met thru off-roading the last 40 years have been very down to earth people.
Off-Road racing isn't just about the number of entries at the next event. It about getting involved to ensure the racing you love, is still around for the coming generations to enjoy. Everyone in our community needs to understand that we all need to do the right thing, so the sport isn't viewed in the wrong light.
Phil's Inc.- www.philsinc.com
MORR - www.midwest-offroadracing.com
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September 14th, 2010, 19:29
#6
Loyal
Re: Short-Course Racing a "Green" Motorsport
Mike, email sent to your email(Philsinc.com address).
Ben Jones
Founder, Racing Dreamz Foundation, www.racingdreamz.org, 423-297-7210
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September 15th, 2010, 15:48
#7
Forum Junkie
Re: Short-Course Racing a "Green" Motorsport

Originally Posted by
philsmike
Hey I didn't mean to stir the pot. And yes I was stretching the bounds of "Green."
Just like Indycar running on ethanol fuel and they call that part of their "Green" initiative.
As long as there's a BITD and a SCORE there will always be a strong desert racing community in the southwest. The desert community is what really drives the industry as a whole.
My point in this reply is if you love desert racing, more people need to get involved. Volunteer, help with the actual event, not just be a participant.
That's why back in the Midwest, MORR was created. That's why I'm involved.
Heck, there's been days when I get tired of hearing the same voices wanting something changed but won't spend the time to come up with a solution, but some crazy voice inside my head keep me going and enjoying almost every minute.
Besides practically everyone I've ever met thru off-roading the last 40 years have been very down to earth people.
Off-Road racing isn't just about the number of entries at the next event. It about getting involved to ensure the racing you love, is still around for the coming generations to enjoy. Everyone in our community needs to understand that we all need to do the right thing, so the sport isn't viewed in the wrong light.
ethanol does not reallymake it green. especially when it is made from corn. Do you realize it uses one gallon of fuel to produce one gallon of ethanol from Corn? another snow job that peeps buy into. if you use sugar cane you can up that to 8:1, one gallon used for every 8 gallons made, now at least there is a benefit to that. the term "Green" everywhere makes me sick. it is the Catch phrase of the decade because of so called Global warming BS.
secondly, of course short course would use less fuel. shorter racing, duh
I too attend Dezert cleanups, (glamis and PC), all I camp with pickup our trash, ( pack it in, pack it out motto) keeping our dezerts clean is helping to keep them open, not ethanol useage.
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September 20th, 2010, 11:02
#8
Forum Junkie
Re: Short-Course Racing a "Green" Motorsport

Originally Posted by
Ramsey_ElWardani
We have an excellent record of safe racing for 30 or more years, that is what we should be talking about. .
MDR racers in all classes have logged over ninety-three hundred laps through the Rock Pile area since the first season, way back in 1997. All without the help of our beloved senators, their committees, and the wonderful folks at the sierra club.